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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Sep 25, 2014 - 05:14pm PT
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hey there say, Gnome ofthe diabase, ... thank you so much...
am starting to make more time, finally, again for the ol' taco...
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Sep 28, 2014 - 09:50am PT
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First time I climbed Siwash, March or April of 92 or 93, we took a raft because the tide was high. On the decent of the rock someone kicked off a loose block from right near the fixed pin. The block bounced, hit our raft, and knocked it out to sea. Danny C saved our bacon with an impromptu polar bear swim out to get the raft.
Midnight fun!
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Sep 29, 2014 - 11:34am PT
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Siwash?
Is that politically correct to use anymore?
I looked it up online and it's considered a derogatory adjective, not unlike Squaw.
What people consider derogatory changes over time, but it just meant "man" in Chinook jargon, same with Klooch or Kloochman meaning woman...
Or consider the terminology shift, where to avoid calling slow kids idiots or dumb, the phrase "retarded development" was introduced as a politically correct, inoffensive replacement term. Didn't take long before retard and retarded were considered pejorative.
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MH2
climber
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Sep 29, 2014 - 04:18pm PT
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Good to see Donini getting some sun up here.
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Sep 29, 2014 - 08:56pm PT
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Does this response suggest we shouldn't question or abandon outdated or inappropriate choice of language?
No, but we should consider where words come from and where they are going, instead of just thinking about what meaning they might have today.
Personally I see special going the same way as retarded has, to the point where I wonder if in 5 years or so the Special Olympics will have to change their name because it will have become a slur.
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Sep 29, 2014 - 10:39pm PT
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Well, shame on me. I never thought about what Siwash meant. I would have guessed that it was the name of a local band or family group.....
Anyhow, to lighten things up a little here are some shots of climbers on SR. This is not really off topic as SR [when still legal] and Murrin were our poorman's answer to the Bluffs etc. You guys today are sooooo lucky.
Un Poseur
Find the belayer..
I think that it's Bruce McKnight belaying.
Now find that belayer.....
Lots of cheap real estate and empty lots across the water. If only.................
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MH2
climber
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Sep 29, 2014 - 10:42pm PT
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Vavaaah.....Boom!
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Tricouni
Mountain climber
Vancouver
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Sep 29, 2014 - 11:33pm PT
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Nice set of photos of the rock.
By the way, the original name for the feature is Lhilhxí7elsh.
The SR name dates back at least to the 1860s and was popularized by Pauline Johnson in "Legends of Vancouver" (1911 or so). The name "Siwash Rock" was officially adopted in 1937. Here's what the geographic names database has to say about Lhilhxí7elsh:
Lhilhxí7elsh (Siwash Rock) is named after an expectant father who was purifying himself in preparation for the birth of his child. As he swam in the waters close to shore the Xáays (Transformer Brothers) approached by canoe but were unable to break the mans intense meditative state. After Xáays learned of the mans intentions they commended his commitment to his family by immortalizing him as a stone figure. His wife S7ens and child were also transformed to stone and stand today beneath the Lions Gate Bridge in the First Narrows of Burrard Inlet. These figures exemplify the importance of family. (Source: December 2011 from: Cultural Journey Sea-to-Sky Corridor website, Squamish and Lil'wat First Nations
I would have verified this by checking he relevant First Nations web page, but it is down right now, so this will have to do.
Hamie, thanks for looking for the ski ascent photos....
Glenn
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Sep 30, 2014 - 07:32am PT
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bump
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Sep 30, 2014 - 08:01am PT
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Glenn, my copy of the Stó:lõ-Coast Salish Historical Atlas shows the name of SR being Stxiels, Man Rock, name literally means "standing up".
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Sep 30, 2014 - 09:12am PT
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Glenn
Great legend, thanks.
Gnome
Please delete your silly post. PM sent.
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Fish Boy
Social climber
Squeamish
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Sep 30, 2014 - 09:13am PT
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Reel Rock tonight anyone?
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AerialElf
Trad climber
Squamish, BC
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Sep 30, 2014 - 09:59am PT
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I'll be at the Valley Uprising show. :)
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AerialElf
Trad climber
Squamish, BC
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Sep 30, 2014 - 10:01am PT
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Was wondering if I had a photo to post here.....and I think this one might be fun - as a different way to climb in Squamish.
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AerialElf
Trad climber
Squamish, BC
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Sep 30, 2014 - 04:44pm PT
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Yes, Tami - Zombie "Woof."
BJ - there are lots of wild and fun things to do on aerial silks. :)
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Sep 30, 2014 - 05:33pm PT
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And in aerial silk too, no doubt.....:) :)
Valley Uprising will be amazing. Jealous.
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AerialElf
Trad climber
Squamish, BC
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oh, so it's not because people liked to bark while climbing it? heh
Chewbacca on the gobsmacking wall is a great route to practice your wookiee calls while you climb . I believe it makes the climbing even more fun. :)
I like this thread too! As a new resident in Squamish, it's interesting to see the old and new pics and stories, and get to know the climbing community here. Just haven't had a chance to read all 8000 posts yet. :)
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Belongs on the
Top of the1st page
Top flight !
Big Bump !
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sac
Trad climber
Sun Coast B.C.
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Hey Squammers!
Check out the rad new cover of our new phone book over here in P.R.
Really captures the "essense" of just how rad it can be here...sometimes.
Betcher jealous!! HAHA.
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MH2
climber
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Maybe I should be jealous. It would depend on how far you need to walk.
At least I don't need to lug a pad.
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