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RyanD

climber
Squamish
Aug 17, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
Who paid for the construction of the road in question in the first place? Was it us? The faithful old taxpayers? I think I remember reading that was the case on the old gondy thread. What right would we have to access it? Same right we have to protect class A provincial parks so future generations can enjoy them in their natural state for perpetuity i guess.


Some good rainy day reading.


http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1783675&tn=0&mr=0
harryhotdog

Social climber
north vancouver, B.C.
Aug 17, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
Even when the road is blocked at the bottom it's not that big of a deal. I arrived at the gate early one morning all bummed that it was locked. My plan was Sky Pilot and I was trying to think of a last minute alternative as I wasn't interested in adding that slog. Eventually I just decided to go for it on my mountain bike and the lower part went very quickly with only some minor pushing of the bike and the descent was awesome.

I always wanted to invent a 5lb fold up bike that you could roll down the logging roads with and save your knees.
Oplopanax

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Aug 17, 2013 - 04:48pm PT
Posted on Fb by Friends of the Chief:

A message from the responsible official in the Ministry of Forests:

" The status of the road will essentially be the same as it's been for approx. the last 20 years.

Yes the S2S gondola has the proper authority to install a gate. A gate has been approved to be installed on the FSR which restricts vehicular access at the same location the public has been able to drive to. The S2S gondola is building a small parking area that will be located near the gate to accommodate people heading into the back country. Public access is being maintained and there is nothing preventing people from walking/cycling up the road past the gate.

I think the overall condition of the road and access into the areas you describe will actually be improved. I have been told that the improvements to the road are providing for increased access to popular rock climbing routes.

One of the factors considered before approving the gate was that the S2S gondola is bringing significant investment into our community and they were concerned about having unrestricted vehicle traffic driving up to their upper station while guests were paying to get there from the bottom. The installation of the gate was approved to allow them to get their business concept up and running. The effectiveness/requirement of a gate may be looked at in the future once the business has had time to become established."

Contact:

Dave Southam, District Manager,
Ministry of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations
Sea to Sky District
Suite 101-42000 Loggers Lane
Squamish BC
V8B 0H3

Telephone: 604 898-2100
Facsimile: 604 898-2191
E-Mail: Forests.SquamishDistrictOffice@gov.bc.ca

Steve Thomson
Ministry of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations
PO Box 9049
STN PROV GOVT
VICTORIA, BC
V8W 9E2

Telephone: 250 387-6240
Fax: 250 387-1040
Email: FLNR.Minister@gov.bc.ca
gf

climber
Aug 17, 2013 - 07:09pm PT
There is an interesting intersection of topics on this thread at present; the gate issue and the david boswell link Mr Kay was kind enough to provide (thanks bruce!). Which begs the question, what would Reid do? I'm thinking he'd take a similar approach as to to when he crash landed his milk truck in the swimming pool...
MH2

climber
Aug 17, 2013 - 07:31pm PT
Reid was a straight-ahead type. There seem to me to be at least 3 loosely connected thoughts, here:

One of the factors considered before approving the gate was that the S2S gondola is bringing significant investment into our community and they were concerned about having unrestricted vehicle traffic driving up to their upper station while guests were paying to get there from the bottom.


Although it is considerate of S2S to protect their guests from being told, "We just drove up."
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Aug 17, 2013 - 07:42pm PT
Haha good one Bruce, your point is valid. BTW I got a Mazda, not a Prius :-)


Edit- why doesn't climbing content spark interest in this thread but local politics we have collectively beaten to death brings everyone outta the woodwork? We've already been thru all this, no?
gf

climber
Aug 17, 2013 - 08:41pm PT
Ryan, what reid would do under these circumstances is of vital importance to any serious student of squamish climbing as anyone who climbs at the milkman wall can attest.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
Thanks MH2 and Ryand. Hope to hang out soon!

Sorry to interrupt this discussion, but i thought i'd post a little climbing porn.

I've been out a bit lately. A couple weeks ago we went up to Split Beaver.

Heather wanted to get on Heavenly Ladder, 5.9

Heather in the slot.

She took a couple whips trying to get up this section.

Fun fingers


And a little stemming.


I top roped it after and the wide got the best of me. I got up the rig, but just barely and it wore me down. Bigtime.

Took this shot three weeks ago when Kyle and Nina were kind enough to ropegun Sandra and i up High mountain woody and Stephanie's tears. Nina also put up slap and tickle which killed me. The left foot work on the diagonal traverse was quite difficult with the sensory issues i still have.

Kyle at the Malemute


Kyle finally got his Redpoint on the beav! He sent it in style!!

Kyle Jammin the Beaver


Navigating the wide


I managed to jam halfway up this sucker before the skin on the back of my right hand started to grid away and i thought better of it. Tape next time, for sure!
gf

climber
Aug 17, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
mike -did you follow the smaill guidebook instructions on split beaver?
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Aug 17, 2013 - 09:13pm PT
"Follow back roads behind the Howe Sound Motel to start the hike in. Located near the top of the bluffs a prominent 70 foot jam crack leans back to the top. You will enjoy it if you don't mind the inevitable dry heaves. The higher you get the arder it is to hold on. Do it till you're satisfied."

Grin.

And more thanks for the Tyee link on Mr. Boswell. I remember four or five of us stuffed in a VW Bug at a cartoon conference in Vic around 1984 or so smokin' reefer with that guy. He was funny. I think I still owe Foodeater for picking up the 3rd place prize I won. :-D

I also drive a Mazda :-D hahahahaa
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2013 - 09:39pm PT
Thanx for that Tami! I didn't quite get to the dry heave part Greg! Next time for sure! Lol
Oplopanax

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Aug 17, 2013 - 10:24pm PT
I kinda wonder if there isn't gonna be a renaissance of interest in the Sky Pilot Group.

Mayhap Mr. Kruk, schooled by Patagonian boltless climbing, or Mr Trotter, with numerous nearly gearless 5.14 redpoints under his belt, or even tiny little Marc-Andre with his albatross-like wingspan and tungsten steel balls, will finally be the suitor who summons up the sac to free the Douglas/Starr on Ledge or even free the original route on Tombstone Tower ;)
Tricouni

Mountain climber
Vancouver
Aug 17, 2013 - 11:03pm PT
Mayhap Mr. Kruk, schooled by Patagonian boltless climbing, or Mr Trotter, with numerous nearly gearless 5.14 redpoints under his belt, or even tiny little Marc-Andre with his albatross-like wingspan and tungsten steel balls, will finally be the suitor who summons up the sac to free the Douglas/Starr on Ledge or even free the original route on Tombstone Tower ;)

Yes, they'd both go free. For the original route on Tombstone, a crashpad or two might not be a bad idea. Once you are over the lip it's easier.

On Tombstone Tower, 1961
On Tombstone Tower, 1961
Credit: Tricouni

Note the full-shank boots and the rat's nest of aid slings made from 1/4" parachute cord.
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Aug 17, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
Cram some crashpads into the gulley and if ya blow the moves try jump back onto them. Other then that ? Pro? What pro ?

I vote for Chris Geisler to get his rump up there and show the OGs what the NGs are made of.

I climbed SkyPilot, Ledgelette and Ledge pregnant. Nearly puked my guts out hikin' back to camp.......
Tricouni

Mountain climber
Vancouver
Aug 18, 2013 - 12:19am PT
I climbed SkyPilot, Ledgelette and Ledge pregnant. Nearly puked my guts out hikin' back to camp.......

That's a tough day, Tami, pregnant or not. Especially in the late summer or fall when the scree is in full bloom, so to speak.
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Aug 18, 2013 - 04:35am PT
Awesome photos. That's what I'm talking about.

Tricouni, you remember this one?

The Olympian following papoose one where it joins with hairpin.
The Olympian following papoose one where it joins with hairpin.
Credit: RyanD




Tami, zoom zoom :-)

Tricouni

Mountain climber
Vancouver
Aug 18, 2013 - 11:13am PT
Ryan, I think it was a lot bushier last time I was up it...
harryhotdog

Social climber
north vancouver, B.C.
Aug 18, 2013 - 12:42pm PT
Identify this professional belayer for a free beer at the Brew pub
Credit: harryhotdog

Julien working on his crack technique
Credit: harryhotdog

Credit: harryhotdog
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
Hey!! I know that guy! It's Jim Brennan!!

Julien's looking good Harry! He'll be climbing 5.13 in no time! ;)


Ryan, I think it was a lot bushier last time I was up it...

Glenn, wasn't everything bushier when you did it? Lol.

Bruce, you hit the nail on the head!! I started this thread to lure tales out of the og's by jogging your memories with pictures!!
harryhotdog

Social climber
north vancouver, B.C.
Aug 18, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
Mike, I suppose your going to ask for a tall boy?

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