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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 18, 2011 - 03:22pm PT
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I've recently found the best beer known to man. It's the Maudite, brewed in Quebec.
It's got a complex bouquet and a badass finish. If you love beer you should try it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maudite
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Sep 18, 2011 - 03:30pm PT
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Brandon,
IMHO the term 'bouquet' should never be used to describe beer.
Nevertheless I will make a point of seeking it out at our local beerimporium, Dirty John's, and will report back ASAP.
Thank you for the tip!
fun vid: http://www.unibroue.com/en/beers/maudite/history
"A sinfully tempting bier who's name sounds like....a swearwordt"
LOve it!
BTW: I am presently enjoying a Schlafly APA (Americuun Pale Ale) that's got a dandy tickle to the nose.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 18, 2011 - 03:31pm PT
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I've recently found the best beer known to man.
You haven't been around that long.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Sep 18, 2011 - 03:40pm PT
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looks pretty good. Don't recall Beer Advocate dishing out "A+" too liberally.
I'm having a Schlitz right now. Solid "C-".
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2011 - 03:52pm PT
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Wayno, perhaps not.
However, I've done my fair share of beer sampling. I could be called a beer snob and this to me, takes the cake.
I'm usually an IPA guy, give me a Stone Ruination and I'm in heaven.
However, there is something so distinctive and complex to this beer that I'm now infatuated with it.
Plus, here in NH, I can get it for $6/bottle.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 18, 2011 - 04:20pm PT
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Maudite est bien mais le plus tres bien? Hmmmmm...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 18, 2011 - 04:54pm PT
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Maudite...
The ginger ale of Champagnes, to pervert an old advertising slogan.
Not that it's bad, but how much Belgian beer have you sampled? Canadian brewer Unibroue makes a lot of Belgian-style beers, and they've somehow managed to become the choice of the cool people. But Maudite is just one more among many.
Spend the next two years working through every Belgian and Belgian-style beer you can lay your hands on and then come back and let's talk about Maudite.
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Tomcat
Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
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Sep 18, 2011 - 05:00pm PT
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Brandon, next time you are in the North Conway area you could make it a point to hit my local pub, Ebenezer Kezars. It's been voted best beer bar in the world once, and best beer bar in America four times I think.Food is great too.Lot's of Belgians. Lot's.Maudite yes.
http://www.ebenezerspub.net/Beer.html 1/2 hour max from the crags.
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kennyt
climber
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Sep 18, 2011 - 07:21pm PT
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F*#k that sh#t, Pabst blue ribbon
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sep 18, 2011 - 07:24pm PT
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"The best beer
Is the one
That's in my hand"
Tucker Tech
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MB of the Central Valley
climber
kingsburg, CA
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Sep 18, 2011 - 07:45pm PT
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Ditto Brandon...drinking a Stone Ruination now. A fine IPA.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Sep 18, 2011 - 08:42pm PT
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What a bunch of self indulgent narcissistic posers.
There is only one true answer to this question.
The BEST BEER IN THE WORLD IS BEER.
Christ. Oh, whoops, he turned water into wine, or at least that's what the easter bunny told me.
He's real so it must be true....
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Sep 18, 2011 - 08:43pm PT
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Beer. It's what I drink when I'm not drinking scotch.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Sep 18, 2011 - 08:50pm PT
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"What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch?"
W.C. Fields
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ruppell
climber
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Sep 18, 2011 - 09:01pm PT
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F*#k that sh#t, Pabst blue ribbon
It did win a medal in 1893. And as far as "cheap beer" goes it's my go to.
Not by any means the best beer ever.
My personal favorite right now is Stone IPA.
Sometimes a like to go for "Ruination" from the same brewery.
Good luck with finding an actual answer unless we do a taste off?
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BriGuy
climber
black hills
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Sep 18, 2011 - 09:37pm PT
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I would have to vote for Arrogant Bastard. I am also a big fan of IPA's and will look for this Maudite brew. Thanks Brandon!
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Sep 18, 2011 - 09:54pm PT
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Stone IPA, Hop Stoopid are both excellent. Old Rasputin Imperial Stout when you are just itching for a angry kick in the teeth.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Sep 18, 2011 - 09:57pm PT
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This one...
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Sep 18, 2011 - 10:02pm PT
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i dunno 'bout no beer no more
but the other day at the crag
i was rockin a triple decker pb and j
sandwhich that had sat in my pack for 2 days
before it fell into my mouth..
that sucker powered my up 12 pitches.
the odd slice make the whole experience,
different.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Sep 19, 2011 - 12:20am PT
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Maudite is good. Though of the Unibroue beers, I prefer Fin du Monde.
For Belgian style, though, if you want to talk about best, go straight to the real thing. Rochefort 10.
Just had the new Sierra Nevada Southern Hemisphere Harvest beer. It was very good.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Sep 19, 2011 - 12:28am PT
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Pliny the Elder is nectar of the gods
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 19, 2011 - 12:49am PT
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maudite is good, but ghosts comments are spot on -rumour has it that he has come a long long way from the days of green draft at the chieftan
Well, yeah, I might be drinking better beer now, but nothing can match the ambiance of The Chieftan as a venue for beer drinking. Bad beer. Dirty. Bad beer. Loggers fighting climbers. Bad beer.
But it was all we had, wasn't it? And it was an integral part of the whole Squamish climbing scene. It was also the scene of something I'll never forget. Ever. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=668163&msg=671589#msg671589
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Reggaemylitis
Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
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Sep 19, 2011 - 12:56am PT
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Jerry nailed it. I've tried every IPA I can get my hands on across this great land, and Pliny still takes the cake. My only wish before I croak is to get a chance to try Pliny The Younger!
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol, CA
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Sep 19, 2011 - 01:20am PT
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Reggaemylitis, February. Thats the only thing that beats the Elder IMO. The Younger is ridiculous. Its funny, but when you live in wine country you become a beer snob.
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KitKat
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe
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Sep 19, 2011 - 01:27am PT
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Pliny the Elder is the best beer on Earth!
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ruppell
climber
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Sep 19, 2011 - 03:39am PT
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Russian River? Good luck with that one, Pyney yhe Elder Only in or about San Fran.
I heard from a reliable source that RR are not intersted in expending the product line. Or as it was reffered to me RR don't want to expand and Pina the Older sucks compared to Stone. Pyne the Older. Haha hipsters unite.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 19, 2011 - 03:42am PT
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Stone IPA, Hop Stoopid are both excellent
yo. friend. this is Mrs. Wayno.. and I LOVED Hop Stoopid until I put it glass to glass next to Georgetown Brewery's "Lucille". mmm Gotta love Lucille! give it a try if you can find it!
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David
Trad climber
San Rafael, CA
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Sep 19, 2011 - 11:16am PT
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For whatever reason there are tons of great west coast style IPAs coming out of San Diego county these days. My personal favorite is West Coast IPA by Green Flash Brewing
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Reggaemylitis
Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
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Sep 19, 2011 - 11:18am PT
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Yeah Jerry, I want to make it to the RR Brewery this Feb for sure! I don't know if I want to spoil the Elder though! Something that tastes better than that may ruin me for life! I'll end up living in a dumpster behind the brewery begging them to make it 12 months a year! :)
Kit Kat, I just moved to South Lake. Is there anywhere to get Pliny The Elder in bottles? I can't find it so far, other than on tap at Freshies, which is better than nothing!
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Sep 19, 2011 - 11:24am PT
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I don't always drink beer, but when I do I prefer dos....wait Sierra Nevada, pretty much all of them.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 19, 2011 - 12:13pm PT
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but when you get bored with the IPAs, try one of these.
Or any of the other Ayinger beers. Incredible stuff.
And if you think only brewers on the US West Coast can make great IPAs, try to find either the double or triple IPA from Brouwerij Emelisse.
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strangeday
Trad climber
Brea ca.
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Sep 19, 2011 - 01:26pm PT
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Anyone around so. Cal, should try Fullertons Bootleggers brewery, "knuckle sandwich" DIPA.
It's pretty much up there with the Pliney.
My favorite is and always will be Sierra Nevada Bigfoot ale.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 19, 2011 - 01:30pm PT
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But if you (the generic 'you') start treating beers like fine wines then you've missed the pint.
Seriously.
Ah, Dingus. On this one you're both right and wrong.
On the being right part, I know exactly what you're saying, and couldn't agree more.
But there is another side to it. There really is. Go get yourself a bottle of Deus (from Brouwerij Bosteels), and see if you're still so sure that there isn't room for a different pint of view.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Sep 19, 2011 - 01:33pm PT
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Best beer I've ever had. Learned to love it at beer gardens in Munich.
Every time I'm in a BevMo type store I look for it, but it seems you can only get it in the US thru mail order.
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ME Climb
Trad climber
Behind the Orange Curtain
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Sep 19, 2011 - 01:37pm PT
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Normally drink Newcastle. Their new red Werewolf is good. My favorite is Jeremiah Red at BJ's restaurants
Eric
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harihari
Trad climber
Squampton
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Sep 19, 2011 - 04:16pm PT
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Hop-heads: the two best IPAs I've ever had are Begbie Brewing (BC)'s "Nasty Habit" IPA and Deschutes(oregon)'s "Inversion" IPA. A friend of mine who brews professionally says that the Inversion is the holy grail of IPA makers...because any decent brewer can replicate almsot anything, but Inversion remains out of reach...
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KitKat
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe
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Sep 19, 2011 - 04:33pm PT
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Reggae, the liquor store behind Raley's at the "Y" in South Lake usually carries both Pliny and Blind Pig.. As far as I know, Freshies is the only place to get it on tap... CHEERS!!!
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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Sep 19, 2011 - 05:33pm PT
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the snobby Beer Advocate gave it a B+ but I'm tellin ya! Two Week Notice is an old Scottish recipe for a herbed brew that is dynamite!.. this is not a beer you can usually find as it's hand made by Moonlight Brewing which is just one guy doing his brews. When you see it on tap drink it up as it's only around for a couple weeks at a time.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Sep 19, 2011 - 05:37pm PT
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Inversion is good, but not my favorite. Maybe my tone deaf palette is keeping from really seeing what is special. Hands down I'll take Hop Stoopid or Stone IPA over Inversion. Deschutes Organic Ale is one of my favorites when I'm not looking for something a bit less "kick in teeth", and their Obsidian Stout is great if you can find a meal to pair it with (hint: no froo-froo tofu is going to do the trick), but that is rare enough that I don't stock it in the house.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Sep 19, 2011 - 06:28pm PT
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Any decent home brewer cannot replicate almost anything. Actually though, I'd say IPA's are among the easier beers to brew.
Guiness...that's hard to copy.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Where are you bound?
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Sep 19, 2011 - 06:46pm PT
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MetalMan ain't choosy. Any old cold one works for him.
MetalMan in COR, Sept 2011.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Sep 19, 2011 - 06:56pm PT
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Guinness is the Budweiser of Stouts. Damn near tastless. Might as well pour some brown food coloring in fizzy water and call it good.
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:11pm PT
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I forgot how bland mass produced beers are, so I ordered a schooner of Miller Genuine Draft. Pretty disapointing.
Can't say this is the best beer, but I really, really like it.
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Lace
climber
las vegas, nv
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:19pm PT
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Haven't found a Unibroue beer I don't like. This was last night's summit beer.
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Reggaemylitis
Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:43pm PT
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Kit Kat, you rule!!! Thanks! The ONE place I didn't check! ;)
(I live at the opposite end of town and don't get down to the Y too often! But I will now!)
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adatesman
climber
philadelphia, pa
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Sep 19, 2011 - 08:03pm PT
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IMHO, the first 2 pages of this discussion are quite possibly the most worthless pages on the whole Tacostand, as you may as well have been debating which is a better fruit: apples, pears, peaches or... -gasp-... Tomatoes. Quite simply, per the BJCP (who cares about these things and spent an inordinate amount of time classifying and categorizing 'beer') La Maudite is a defining example of a Belgian Specialty Ale, while La Fin du Monde is a defining example of a Belgian Tripel, and several of the IPA's mentioned were defining examples of that style. Or toputt it another way, which is better: brownies or chocolate chip cookies? Both are baked goods, after all...
Now pardon me as I go back to my Victory Golden Monkey...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 19, 2011 - 11:43pm PT
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Or toputt it another way, which is better: brownies or chocolate chip cookies?
Do the brownies have hash in them?
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Sep 20, 2011 - 12:14am PT
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Maudite is pretty good. I like Trois Pistoles better.
I like Lagunitas Little Sumpin' Wild Ale. 9.4 ABV and it's not $10.00 a four pack.
Out of the 4,000+ different beers that I have tried, I could probably put together a list of a couple hundred that I really like.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Where are you bound?
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Sep 20, 2011 - 12:31am PT
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Those are hydration beers.
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the goat
climber
north central WA
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Sep 20, 2011 - 12:45am PT
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Some great beers coming out of small NW breweries, with bigger ones like Ninkasi and Deschutes doing great work too. Stone is one of my favorites, both the IPA and Ruination sell like hotcakes when we have it! Sorry Michelob......
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol, CA
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Sep 20, 2011 - 12:52am PT
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I'm all for keeping it local.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Sep 20, 2011 - 12:54am PT
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who makes the best oatmeal stout?
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KitKat
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe
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Sep 20, 2011 - 03:59am PT
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I've never had a beer from Lagunitas that I did not like... and yeah Blitzo, that Little Sump'in Wild is pretty good! Ever try the Undercover Investigation Shutdown?
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Sep 20, 2011 - 10:06am PT
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I didn't really care for the Undercover Investigation Shutdown, or the Wilco Tango Foxtrot.
Hop Stoopid is pretty good, a bit bitter at 102 IBUs. I like GnarlyWine, Lucky 13 and Brown Sugga
Try Left Coast Asylum and Hop Juice.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sep 20, 2011 - 10:12am PT
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who makes the best oatmeal stout?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 20, 2011 - 10:37am PT
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who makes the best oatmeal stout?
I do.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Sep 20, 2011 - 11:08am PT
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Try Belhaven Wee Heavy.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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I've recently found the best beer known to man. It's the Maudite, brewed in Quebec.
Brandon, I just got back from a few days in the Great White North, where I learned that Unibroue, the outfit that brews Maudite, is now owned by Japanese brewing giant Sapporo. Turns out Unibroue sold out to Canadian brewing company Sleeman Breweries in 2004, and Sleeman sold out to Sapporo in 2006.
As far as I can tell, it hasn't affected Unibroue's commitment to brewing real beer, but it's still kind of sad.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I wonder if that's why they brought out Le Fin du Monde.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 4, 2011 - 05:37pm PT
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Reilly, if that's the reason, I'm OK with it.
Shame, though, that the Quebecois don't own the brewery anymore.
On the other side of the coin, it's a backhanded tip of the hat to them for brewing such delicious beer, that they were bought out.
What was I saying?
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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pliny is good if you only have one,
kind of dirty, gave me a hangover
Brand Bier from holland is the cleanest
then guinness draught
this stuff here, so clean and good, great buzz,
they stopped importing it becuse of the white bottle
hard to recycle
anybody ever had it?
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Relic
Social climber
Vancouver, BC
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Little Creatures Pale Ale is like drinkin from the teeet of god. Super clean beer. Only bummer is it's imported from Australia, kinda hard to find.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Don't know if it's the best yet, I'm putting off cracking it.
Definitely the best-named beer* and it's pretty gud!
*It's a pity it isn't pronounced like it appears.
Second best name?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Don't know if it's the best yet, I'm putting off cracking it.
Stop procrastinating, and lift that cap. "Best" is a stupid discussion, but Pliny the Elder is really, really good for its style.
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foxglove
Social climber
long beach ca
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haha this is one of those convo's that just keep giving, what the crap was that whole taxidermed squirrel bit?
http://youtu.be/ZrK4llAu2T0
i dont know how this is related but it just .... is........ok no its not.
sopporo is one of my faves too but its from rice, nothing like the other beers in discussion. but good for those ppl who cant eat gluten
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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A black raspberry Porter made by Silver Plume Brewery - Silver Plume Co. - now defunct, holds that award for me. I think it was called Bullshead Black.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2011 - 06:18pm PT
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Silver, many of my great memories involve an afternoon on the roof at Silver Peak.
Good times, and some interesting shops nearby.
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foxglove
Social climber
long beach ca
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i wish i had some beer right now, damned monsoon outside. i like apricot ale by pyramid, had that last weekend, but lets get seasonal here. what about all those delicious seasonal beers coming out filled with pumpkin, spices, molasses and yams? wholefoods has good beer
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Best beer ever = that without alcohol. seriously.
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The Wedge
Boulder climber
Santa Rosa & Bishop, CA
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The best beer is the one that is cold, full, and in my F'en hand.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Introduction made by Brass Nuts.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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a beer without alcohol is pointless and worthless
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krahmes
Social climber
Stumptown
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Hard to believe it’s been 25 years since two brothers bought a working class tavern called the Blue Moon in what was a grittier NW Portland and turned it into a mini-beer joint empire of Oregon. Still love me a Terminator Stout -from the tap.
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Bldrjac
Ice climber
Boulder
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The best beer is the one I hold in my hand right now after a long, hot day of climbing...........
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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the msu figure is unintelligble. cluster analysis? what are the dimensions?
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Best beer ever? That's like saying best band ever. Lot's of good ones.
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Nick
climber
portland, Oregon
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For your concideration..
Imperial Stout - the Abyss by Deschutes
IPA - Pliny the Younger - Russian River
Pale Ale- Vaporizer by Double Mountain
Lager- 1811 by Ft. George
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buckie
Trad climber
Oregon
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I see a couple Raaaaaaaaaaaaaa Neeeeeeeeeeeeer Beeeeers nestled in amongst those sky blue waters.
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Happy Boulders
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I really dig the Moosedrool beer from a small brewery in Montana
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Rock!...oopsie.
Trad climber
the pitch above you
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krahmes nails it. Terminator and Obsidian are the stouts by which I judge all others and a major reason I miss the Pacific Northwest.
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hooblie
climber
from where the anecdotes roam
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this?
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Hand Jammer
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Imperial Russian Stout
20oz X 10% Alcohol = You do the math
Doubles as motor oil in a pinch
Warning: Don't use the hatchet after the stout!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Best beer ever? No. But these aren't too bad. I'll crack them during the second half of the night game, and do a taste-test comparison.
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the goat
climber
north central WA
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Hah! I'm reading ST sucking down an Inversion and lo and behold, it makes the recommended list! Good choice. Hard to beat any of the Stone beers though, haven't found a marginal one yet. By the way, did the Habs beat Winnipeg today?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Habs 5, Jets 1. At home. In front of the prime minister. Oops!
(The Montreal Canadiens are familiarly known as the Habs, short for habitant. A habitant being one of the original settlers of New France.)
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Where are you bound?
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The Montreal Habs? Better than a Dumple, I guess.
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the goat
climber
north central WA
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A Dumple? Time for another beer. I'm glad to see hockey back in Winnipeg where it's supposed to be but this is the wrong thread, sorry for sidetracking it. Go Habs!
Old Schoolhouse is our local brewery and they've made great strides in producing a quality IPA and Pilsner amongst others. They've sold so much they ran out of capacity in their brew pub and are moving to a new facility nearby. Until then I guess it's Inversion, Ruination and 21st Amendment, of course in a can.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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That's one of the things that's really cool about the Pacific Northwest; every town - even some small towns - has a local brewery.
Every one I visited ( I spent a few weeks up there last month ) had something that was really good.
I like this one:
http://www.birdsviewbrewingco.com/
Birdsview Brewing, between Sedro-Wooly and Concrete. It's a family-run joint. "Mom" was nice enough to let me fly the kite there. She said that was the strangest request she'd heard since they opened the place. ( I didn't get any pictures, the wind was so squirrelly I'm lucky I didn't do any damage )
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
nevada city, California
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some mighty fine beers mentioned here. my 2 cents would be that Bridgeport Brewery's Kingpin, Double Red Ale, deserves due mention.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Oct 10, 2011 - 01:19am PT
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We stopped in not long after they opened. When Bill found out that we brewed, he dragged us into the back and I think it was half an hour before we got back out to the dining room.
Nice people, and decent food and beer. Maybe not the best brewpub in the world, but worth stopping in if you happen to be in the neighborhood when you're hungry/thirsty.
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the goat
climber
north central WA
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Oct 10, 2011 - 12:57pm PT
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Thanks for the heads up on Birdsview Brewing, I drive by it on my way home but it always seems to be tot early in the day for beer (is it ever too early?). Next time I'm stopping.
So many good beers, so little time.
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neversummer
Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
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Oct 10, 2011 - 12:59pm PT
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Langunitas brewing out of Petaluma Ca.....my new favorite "lil sumpin'"..7.5% IPA=Good times.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Oct 10, 2011 - 02:10pm PT
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i drank this at the bottom of the sea,
tasted stella.
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Happy Boulders
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Oct 10, 2011 - 03:07pm PT
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thanks hooblie. that's what I meant to say.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2011 - 05:21pm PT
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Has anyone tried the 'Terrible' from Unibroue?
I'm halfway through one. It says it's a dark, but still has that fruity, spicy flavor.
What's up with that? It seems like all their beers are a variations on a theme.
What's the theme?
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Slater
Trad climber
Central Coast
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Oct 13, 2011 - 12:43am PT
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Spaten Oktoberfest
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Oct 14, 2011 - 03:08am PT
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"Best beer" is a pretty stupid concept, but one brewery that should be in the discussion is Bosteels, in Belgium. They only make three beers, and each of them is great. Their dubbel (Kwak) is, for many people, the reference beer for the style. Lots of others are on par now, but it's still worth drinking.
Their tripel, which they call Tripel Karmeliet, is the best tripel I've ever tasted. YMMV, but if you haven't tried it, you're missing out on something amazing.
Then there is DeuS. Conforms to no style. The closest comparison I can make is to high-end Champagne. With a price to match, and worth every penny. There is simply nothing else like it.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 12, 2011 - 08:05pm PT
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It's on my list, Ghost.
A few of the usual suspects. That Trader Joes was a real bargain at $3!
That Teton 'Wake Up Call' is really good. I also tried a special release
which name I've forgotten but it could ride with the best Belgians.
The "Best.Beer.Ever" and IMHO the absolute Worst. Beer. Ever.
After consuming one I never opened the second for fear of putting myself at
risk of a knock on my door from some agents of the EPA investigating a
hazardous waste incident. I wonder if I hang onto it might it be worth
something someday?
The Pliny I gave an 85 but you have to excuse me as I am not enamored of
overly hoppy brews. I prefer their Damnation and Redemption.
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pell
Trad climber
South San Francisco
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Dec 12, 2011 - 08:20pm PT
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Beer. Without. Vodka. Is. A. Waste. Of. Money.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 12, 2011 - 08:28pm PT
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I'm too much of a beer snob, to pick ONE. And that is a silly proposition in-and-of-itself. Different beers for different occasions.
All around, though? Sam Adams Boston Lager. That, or Heineken or Beck's.
Sierra Nevada is good, but an acquired taste. Too bold for some.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 12, 2011 - 09:08pm PT
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I'm too much of a beer snob, to pick ONE. All around, though? Sam Adams Boston Lager. That, or Heineken or Beck's.
Sam Adams? Heineken? Becks? This is corporate swill produced by giant companies run by accountants who haven't got a clue what a real beer tastes like.
Steve, you've finally done it. Pushed me right over the edge and left me with only two choices: Either I come down to Cali and shoot you to put you out of your misery (anybody who thinks Heineken is worth drinking has to be in misery), or else I have to offer you some real beer.
I know this is a big risk, cuz the taste of an actual beer (as opposed to swill like Sam Adams) might kill you just as dead as shooting you, but it's the least that can be done for a fellow climber. I'm not sure how to arrange this. I couldn't get down to your bbq with a stash of real beer, and as far as I can tell, you don't travel north much, so this is going to be difficult. But I'll find a way.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 12, 2011 - 09:21pm PT
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Ooh, Ghost, harsh! I hope you don't wind up shooting my wife for buying me
some Heineken a while back. I politely thanked her and surreptitiously gave
it to the gardener.
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briham89
Trad climber
los gatos. ca
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Dec 12, 2011 - 09:28pm PT
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Another Pliny lover here
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 12, 2011 - 09:39pm PT
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Ghost, 'ole boy, ther are good beers that are less 'corporate', but c'mon! I'm talking about widely available beers.
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jstan
climber
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Dec 12, 2011 - 10:45pm PT
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"How Beer Saved the World".
On Netflix.
A hoot.
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briham89
Trad climber
los gatos. ca
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Dec 12, 2011 - 10:51pm PT
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stone ruination ipa seems to be available in more and more places and is pretty tasty
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 12, 2011 - 11:02pm PT
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Ghost, 'ole boy, ther are good beers that are less 'corporate', but c'mon! I'm talking about widely available beers.
Nope, you don't get to wriggle out with that feeble excuse. That's like saying you're a food snob because you prefer KFC and Arby's to MacDonalds, and then defending it with "Well, KFC is widely available."
There's plenty of good beer in virtually every town in California, so I think we'll have to put together a posse, chase you down, tie you up, and pour some real beer into you.
And aren't you the guy who says we should all buy American-made products instead of foreign? What do you think Heineken and Becks are? (And Budweiser, too, since it was bought by InBev). Expand your beer horizons and support a local craft brewer. It's good for you, good for the brewer, and patriotic too!
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Social climber
Retired to Appalachia
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Dec 12, 2011 - 11:13pm PT
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ve recently found the best beer known to man. It's the Maudite, brewed in Quebec.
Not possible. The best beer ever made is no longer being made - Appalachian Ale.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Dec 12, 2011 - 11:51pm PT
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For Belgian beers, so far I like Duvel when I'm interested in that style, also New Belgium Trippel...
learning about "sour" beers...
two so far:
Cascade Kriek Ale 2010 - didn't like this one so much
Jolly Pumpkin La Roja - liked this a lot more, definitely kick my ass too
places to get these in the Bay Area:
Healthy Spirits
2299 15th St.
San Francisco, CA 94114-1237
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/23/dining/sour-beers-review.html
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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Dec 13, 2011 - 12:06am PT
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I used to work at this brewery. Certainly one of the best "microbreweries" around.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 13, 2011 - 12:06pm PT
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learning about "sour" beers...
Ed, if you explore that part of the beer world you will find some of the most interesting and amazing beverages. All kinds of geographic subdivisions and rivalries (West Flanders vs. East Flanders, for example) and debates about just which strains of yeast, and which bacteria, generate the exact flavor and aroma you're looking for -- whether to accompany a meal, to sip on the patio, or to warm you in front of the fire.
Tremendously fascinating subject for both brewers and drinkers, and about as far from corporate swill as it is possible to get.
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strangeday
Trad climber
Brea ca.
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Dec 13, 2011 - 01:44pm PT
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For all the So. Cal. pliney lovers, my friends brewery, bootleggers in Fullerton ca. Will be releasing their "knuckle sandwich" DIPA again this weekend. Many have said they think it's as good, or possible better than pliney. Either way, that are awesome people, and making great local craft beer. Stop by next time your in the area...
http://www.bootleggersbrewery.com/
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 13, 2011 - 01:57pm PT
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Strange,
Bootleggers has a retailer a mile away in Slobovia (between Arcadia and Monrovia).
I'm on my way!
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Murzerker
Social climber
Land of Goats and Tacos
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Dec 13, 2011 - 02:03pm PT
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Had some Belgian IPA last night, not bad, but 7% alc vol was a surprise, not that I minded.
I miss the PNW and hanging at my local McMenamins....ah Hammerhead, or a nice Ruby when raspberries are in season.
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strangeday
Trad climber
Brea ca.
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Dec 13, 2011 - 03:09pm PT
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Reilly-- awesome!! I hope they get some of the knuckle, it'll probably be limited to one bottle, as it's kind of gained a cult status here. The rest of their beer is quite good as well, the black phoenix is one of my faves...
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Dec 16, 2011 - 06:24pm PT
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Okocim and Zywiec Porters. Guinness. Any German bier.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2011 - 06:33pm PT
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Sierra Celebration right now.
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pell
Trad climber
South San Francisco
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Dec 16, 2011 - 06:39pm PT
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The best ratio between price and quality is achieved at the "beer for free" point.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Feb 11, 2012 - 12:45am PT
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YES!
It's that time of year again!
( I found some two years in a row in August at the same liquor store - I can't tell you where, for obvious reasons )
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 11, 2012 - 02:29am PT
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Tried a new (to me) Belgian tonight - Saison Dupont- unfiltered farmhouse ale.
In a word, albeit overused and nigh unto trite, awesome!
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Feb 11, 2012 - 02:37am PT
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My keg of the local Georgetown Brewery's Roger's Pilsner just blew. Shite. I'll have to steal the wife's Lucille's IPA or drink wine. Life is brutal sometimes.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2012 - 03:51pm PT
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Stone Ruination is my valentines date.
I might just get lucky.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 14, 2012 - 04:39pm PT
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My keg of the local Georgetown Brewery's Roger's Pilsner just blew. Shite. I'll have to steal the wife's Lucille's IPA or drink wine. Life is brutal sometimes.
Well, there's a fresh keg of Pilsner waiting for you at Chateau Pisse de Chat tonight, and the glasses are chilled.
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ArtsyChick
Sport climber
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Feb 14, 2012 - 05:11pm PT
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In general, IPAs or dark Belgiums for me.
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Zander
climber
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Feb 14, 2012 - 11:41pm PT
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Made the trek Saturday to The Russian River Pub and stood in line for 3.5 hours to try Pliny The Younger. It was a good day.... good pizza, good friends, good beer. I haven't tried a lot of the beer mentioned here so I won't compare but the Pliny The Younger is great stuff. No doubt about it.
As you were,
Z
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strangeday
Trad climber
Brea ca.
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Feb 16, 2012 - 03:20pm PT
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Sierra Nevada pale ale and torpedo ipa are now available it cans.... This is awesome...
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Feb 16, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
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Sierra Nevada pale ale and torpedo ipa are now available it cans.... This is awesome...
Best news I have heard in weeks!!!!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Feb 16, 2012 - 03:55pm PT
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The Torpedo IPA looks like it's in 16oz cans!
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strangeday
Trad climber
Brea ca.
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Feb 24, 2012 - 12:48am PT
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Pretty good if your doing the gluten free thing...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 24, 2012 - 12:52am PT
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Had this the other night. Whoa! Intensity in a bottle! A little too
sour for more than a glass but it would go nicely with a good roast.
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Chugach
Trad climber
Vermont
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Feb 24, 2012 - 12:07pm PT
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Just tried the Alchemist's Heady Topper which is new, and in cans, and is one of the very few beers to earn a beer-rate 100 rating. F*ing awesome.
There's also a limited edition joint venture brew out between Stone and the Alchemist and a 3rd brewery that clearly stands apart from the crowd.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Feb 24, 2012 - 12:17pm PT
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ReillyTried a new (to me) Belgian tonight - Saison Dupont- unfiltered farmhouse ale.
In a word, albeit overused and nigh unto trite, awesome!
Dupont would be my go-to hot weather beer if it were a little cheaper and available in UT. I love the stuff.
So much, in fact, that I tried to get the state DABC to special order some for me. They would have, except their minimum special orde size was a pallet. I would have ponied up for a couple cases, but a pallet was out of my reach.
Great to see Sierra Nevada in cans. Hope that makes its way here.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 24, 2012 - 12:36pm PT
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A new brewery recently opened in the Washington town of Poulsbo, a small town just across Puget Sound from Seattle. Call themselves Sound Brewery, and pretty much from day one they offered a dozen beers -- five in 22 oz bottles, and all available on draft. I've sampled all the bottles, and maybe three or four of the others, and all of them are excellent -- including those in styles that don't particularly appeal to me.
Their website (www.soundbrewery.com) has a good list of both pubs where the beers are available on tap and stores carrying the bottles.
Quite a few of the beers are Belgian-inspired. Not just clones of popular Belgians, but original beers with a Belgian heritage.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2012 - 12:46pm PT
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All this talk of beer is making me thirsty.
My favorite beers.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 24, 2012 - 01:05pm PT
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La Fin du Monde!!!11111
A truly international beverage: "Belgian" beer, brewed in Quebec, by a Japanese company.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2012 - 01:07pm PT
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Drinking La Fin Du Monde constantly reminds me that I need to visit the fjords of northern Labrador Province.
It also tastes great.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2012 - 01:13pm PT
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$7 for a big bottle here, what's it there?
Sometimes the greatest gifts don't come in small packages.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 24, 2012 - 01:27pm PT
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a 4-pack cost about as much as a small car I think.
Hmmmm. I smell a commercial opportunity. I need a new car, and my tripel is as good as Fin du Monde. How about I sell you a 6-pack for the price of that car? It's win-win! Well except for the giant Japanese corp that loses one sale...
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
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I'll send you a matchbox car and ten bucks.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 24, 2012 - 01:30pm PT
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In return for which you'll get 6 thimbles of beer
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
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Ha!
Fine, eleven bucks.
:)
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 20, 2012 - 09:26pm PT
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Pliny the Younger @ Stone Brewing right now until 8:00. Supplication as well.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Mar 20, 2012 - 09:47pm PT
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Nope, you don't get to wriggle out with that feeble excuse. That's like saying you're a food snob because you prefer KFC and Arby's to MacDonalds, and then defending it with "Well, KFC is widely available."
There's plenty of good beer in virtually every town in California, so I think we'll have to put together a posse, chase you down, tie you up, and pour some real beer into you.
And aren't you the guy who says we should all buy American-made products instead of foreign? What do you think Heineken and Becks are? (And Budweiser, too, since it was bought by InBev). Expand your beer horizons and support a local craft brewer. It's good for you, good for the brewer, and patriotic too!
I'm still waitin' for Ghost to roll down with some choice hops....hehe...
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briham89
Trad climber
los gatos. ca
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Mar 20, 2012 - 10:30pm PT
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ok i love pliny but no one has it right now...except at stone in SD apparently, and I am jealous! But anyways....what is you favorite double IPA or IPA that you can actually find all the time in the San Jose area?
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 20, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
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I really like Left Coast Hop Juice. Should be able to find it up there. The 7-11 down the street actually carries it, but they are beer nuts.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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May 22, 2012 - 11:14pm PT
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has anyone had Deschutes Hop in the Dark? I'm on a strict two-beer limit this week and have spent the last few hours thinking how much I want a good beer
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Tung Gwok
Mountain climber
South Bend, Indiana
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May 30, 2012 - 04:45pm PT
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Another entry: Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewery. Aged in oak barrels. Licorice? Bit like bourbon in a brew.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 30, 2012 - 04:55pm PT
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Funny, I'm currently winding down from a super rough day of transporting tipi poles (piñon), planting my garden, and playing scrabble with strangers on the internet.
The beer I turn to? Maudite.
I'm halfway through it and it's great.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 30, 2012 - 05:13pm PT
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nuff said
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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May 30, 2012 - 05:17pm PT
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/vomit.
I love me some gud beer.
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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May 30, 2012 - 07:49pm PT
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My new favorite! Brewed in Oakland.
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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May 30, 2012 - 09:10pm PT
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Anyone got reccomndations for beer drinking in Brugge or Amsterdam? Gonna be out that a way as well as some other places. I would like to partake.
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Chango
Trad climber
norcal
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May 30, 2012 - 09:58pm PT
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I've got to go with Pliny the Elder. I got my hands on 12 of them for this past weekend. Loaded up the glasses in front of 12 serious beer drinkers (most of which have never tried it). Without being prompted, every single one of them said it was the best beer they ever had.
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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May 30, 2012 - 10:45pm PT
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Ooohhh that is a trappist! Will do.
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darkmagus
Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
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May 31, 2012 - 12:10am PT
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I agree with Ghost, you gotta try more Belgian ales in order to see how Unibroue beers fit into the context of Belgian beer and also beer in general.
My brother used to work for Trumer in Oakland, it's a great pilsner!
I love living in San Diego with Alesmith, Green Flash, and Ballast Point nearby. I used to love visiting the Russian River brewery when I lived in the Bay Area. Currently the beer that I drink most often is Green Flash Rayon Vert, it's like an Orval clone! I once purchased a 6 pack of Westvleteren 12, it cost me a ridiculous amount. Westy 8 is my absolute favorite beer of all time...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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May 31, 2012 - 12:20am PT
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Anyone got reccomndations for beer drinking in Brugge or Amsterdam?
Yes. When are you going?
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 31, 2012 - 01:05pm PT
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Is that El Papa Chango chiming in here?
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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May 31, 2012 - 01:10pm PT
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@Ghost
I will be in Brugge June 29th-30th and Amsterdam July 1st-4th. We are coming from Paris and then make out way back to London and on up to Scotland. Got 3 weeks total vacation time, Hoping to sample beers the entire time.
Cheers.
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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May 31, 2012 - 01:18pm PT
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Don't know if this has been mentioned yet....but a good little trick to get some Unibroue for cheap is buy Trader Joe's Anniversary beers each year. Brewed and bottled by Unibroue at a much cheaper price.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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May 31, 2012 - 01:20pm PT
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I will be in Brugge June 29th-30th and Amsterdam July 1st-4th
Which means I don't have to reply right this second. Which is good, because I'm on deadline today. But I'll gather some info and post up tonight.
In the meantime, here's a shot taken on my walk from hotel to pub in Amsterdam...
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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May 31, 2012 - 01:21pm PT
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Haha nice!
Thanks in advance!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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I did a bit of research in preparation for a business trip to Amsterdam a year-and-a-half ago. One tool that turned out to be useful was a website run by a Brit who has lived in Amsterdam for a long time and who offers beer tours and beer guidebooks to the city (and other European cities). Which, come to think of it, is not a bad gig.
Check out http://www.europeanbeerguide.net/ as a starting point. Scroll down a bit and click on the appropriate spot on the map. You'll find a lot of info if you spend a bit of time. I exchanged a couple emails with the guy who runs the site -- he was friendly and helpful. And to give you an idea of the pub scene in Amsterdam, here's a quote from him: "Amsterdam has an absolute stack of pubs - 1200 of them for only 700,000 of us. (I don't mean to rub it in, but I'm lucky enough to be a resident of the Birmingham of Holland, as no-one calls it.) I make that one pub for every 583 people."
However, one big difference between the Netherlands and the US is that the craft beer thing is only just getting started there, and a lot of those 1,200 pubs are serving the same old same old. In most big US cities in the NE or on the West Coast it's easy to find pubs with dozens of taps offering amazing beers in any style you can think of. Or maybe featuring dozens of amazing examples of a particular style. Beer culture in Amsterdam is more dominated by a few big breweries, and it's never involved the amazing things the Belgians do so well. You have to search a bit to find the interesting stuff, but it's there if you look. And some of the pubs offer pretty good food at decent prices.
The craft beer thing is beginning to develop though. Brouwerij Emelisse is making beers as good or better than anyone in the US, and there are probably others now.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jun 22, 2012 - 10:06pm PT
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This stuff's damn good!
Next time I'm in Petaluma, I'm paying these folks a visit.
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covelocos
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Jun 22, 2012 - 10:31pm PT
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Everything worth saying has already been said, but it bears worth repeating since no one was listening the first time. Perhaps the finest beer ever made. "Pliny the Elder"
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 22, 2012 - 10:34pm PT
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Send me one and I'll check back in. PM me for mailing info.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 22, 2012 - 10:40pm PT
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'Pliny the Elder' won some microbrew award last year...
I tried it, and found it...good+.
I was mildly disappointed, since I'm an IPA fiend, but this could have been due to the draft system it came from, or the fact that my tastebuds have been destroyed with a regular diet of IPA's.
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covelocos
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Jun 22, 2012 - 11:54pm PT
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Like I always say... "There's no accounting for taste..."
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 22, 2012 - 11:58pm PT
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Worst beer ever? c'mon now, we've all had it. Whatever happened to the Low Brew Society? It ain't good, lessen it costs $1.99 per six-pack.
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covelocos
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Jun 23, 2012 - 12:00am PT
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~PLINY THE ELDER~
Russian River Brewing Company. Pliny the Elder was a Roman naturalist, scholar, historian, traveler, officer, and writer. Although not considered his most important work, Pliny and his contemporaries created the botanical name for hops, "Lupus salictarius", meaning wolf among scrubs." Hops at that time grew wild among willows, much like a wolf in the forest. Later the current botanical name, Humulus lupulus, was adopted. Pliny died in 79 AD while observing the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. He was immortalized by his nephew, Pliny the Younger, who continued his uncle's legacy by documenting much of what he observed during the eruption of Mount Vesuvius.
Price: $5.00
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covelocos
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Jun 23, 2012 - 12:01am PT
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...each.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2012 - 12:01am PT
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Well, I just shared a four pack of Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA, and now I'm into my first Sierra Torpedo.
Mmmmmm, hoppy.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 23, 2012 - 12:49am PT
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I need a new lager, a good Munich-type lager... west coast style?
There's one available in the PNW -- Roger's Pilsner -- that's pretty good. Don't know if you'll find it in Hellifornia, but you could check.
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the goat
climber
north central WA
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Jun 23, 2012 - 01:22am PT
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Fort George IPA in 16 oz. cans............believe it.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 23, 2012 - 12:15pm PT
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Happy Father's Day campers
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Jun 24, 2012 - 10:55am PT
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DMT, Trumer Pils- my new favorite.
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adam d
climber
CA
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Jun 24, 2012 - 11:14am PT
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For Munchen meets California we have these guys in SLO doing German style beers...a good change of pace for hop heads. Distribution wise, they're spreading into LA/OC but I think that's it for now outside of SLO.
http://www.einhornbeer.com/
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jun 24, 2012 - 11:35am PT
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Been a while since I had a Carlsberg.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 25, 2012 - 12:43am PT
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Both Climbing and "clash"related beer story.
Murree Brewery was founded in the northern hill station town of Murree in 1860 by two English Edwards, Dyer and Whymper.
Brewed to slake the thirst of Her Majesty's soldiery in their broiling Punjab cantonments, the beer found a grateful market and won its first award, a medal of excellence at the Philadelphia Exhibition, in 1876.
The brewery moved to the garrison city of Rawalpindi in 1910 and business boomed through war and independence until 1977, when the prime minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto banned alcohol in an effort to court Pakistan's growing conservative Muslim vote.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/a-dry-nation-raises-its-glass-to-future-prosperity-20120624-20wax.html#ixzz1ymEkFiLa
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MisterE
Social climber
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Jun 25, 2012 - 12:58am PT
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The first one you have after a good day of climbing, who the fuk cares what the brand is?
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Jun 25, 2012 - 01:01am PT
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That's a good one, but if it's a good one, that gives it extra oomph.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 28, 2012 - 12:30am PT
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Ran across a very good new one yesterday. Hadn't heard of the brewery before, and had to overcome my prejudice against cans, but gave it a try. And was stunned. Really good beer. I mean really good. And cheap. $2.50 for a 16 oz can.
Brewery is Fearless Brewing in some Oregon town (Estacada) I've never heard of. Their Mjolnir IPA is on par with the best.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 28, 2012 - 12:34am PT
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How many grams of alcohol in these brews? What is the safe limit, grams per day? I like 'em just like as well as the next guy, but I'm starting to take this number into account.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 28, 2012 - 12:36am PT
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"What is the safe limit, grams per day?"
For an IPA? My limit is usually two. After that, I can't taste anything for the rest of the night.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 28, 2012 - 12:40am PT
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This is America, so you've got to convert grams per day into six-packs. Not sure how that works, exactly, but I think you double it and add 32? So you're probably okay as long as you keep it under a dozen or so cans.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jun 28, 2012 - 12:42am PT
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You have to multiply by furlongs, and divide by firkins, to get from metric to imperial. Or maybe it's the reverse?
Anyway, I notice that David's beer is denominated in ml, and so have hope that it will be imported to the GWN.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 28, 2012 - 12:57am PT
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I'm in line with apogee, but I have to reduce to get down to two. I think it's the prudent choice and from what I've read safe.
My brother died from drinking too much alchohol and besides being dead, he
suffered mightly from his diseased liver.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 28, 2012 - 01:05am PT
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My brother died from drinking too much alcohol
Sorry to hear that. And yes, despite my joking response above, there is a limit to how much anyone ought to drink, and that limit is pretty low. A lot lower than most of us wish it was.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 28, 2012 - 01:14am PT
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I had to give a commencement address in Eugene last week so I got dosed with
some gud stuff. The local Ninkasi comes to mind - pretty damn gud!
I inquired after it back here in Sin City but my preferred local pusher man,
aka Hamid The Uber-Friendly Christian Syrian, tells me Ninkasi is only fronted
by BevMo so I guess I won't be having any. I emailed them about the seeming
disparity of a micro-brewery's brew not being available to a micro-retailer.
They gave me some gobbledegook business school answer I didn't understand.
Their loss.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 28, 2012 - 01:19am PT
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I inquired after it back here in Sin City but my preferred local pusher man,aka Hamid The Uber-Friendly Christian Syrian, tells me Ninkasi is only fronted by BevMo
Weird. Ninkasi is available even in the grocery stores here.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 28, 2012 - 01:20am PT
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Yeah, Ghost, but you don't live in the Evil Empire.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 28, 2012 - 01:27am PT
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Hmmm. I think Ninkasi was the Sumerian Goddess of Brewing, so maybe you should find a pusher that isn't a Syrian Christian? Might be some ancient vendetta that's messing up your access to a good beer.
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the goat
climber
north central WA
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Jun 28, 2012 - 02:07am PT
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Ninkasi is good, Stone is better and Ft. George is great IMHO. Fearless looks interesting. By the way, Estacada is near Clackamas, SE Portland.
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dfinnecy
Social climber
'stralia
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Jun 28, 2012 - 03:12am PT
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I'm in Australia, where bad beer costs about twice as much as good beer in the US, and good beer is just silly in terms of $.
But yesterday was a special occasion and I had a Duvel, which was,.... disappointing.
Best Aussie beer IMHO is Little Creatures Pale. But at $20 for a 6 pack I have taken to brewing my own, which means I don't get great beer very often. I'm still learning and have a long ways to go. But what I do get is mine. And that is pretty neat.
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Damn this looks high
Trad climber
Temecula, CA
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Jun 28, 2012 - 03:43pm PT
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THIS is the BEST. BEER. EVER.
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cliffhanger
Trad climber
California
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Jun 28, 2012 - 05:04pm PT
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I've always found Tooth's Sheaf Stout to be an extraordinary beer, although now it's called just Sheaf Stout by the new owner, Fosters.
One review says a scoop of ice cream into your glass of Sheaf Stout makes for a fine dessert.
Here's an excellent site, The Beer Trials:
http://www.fearlesscritic.com/beer/family/4/dark-ale
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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This is pretty darn gud, especially when you can find it on draft.
It puts you in the right frame of mind.
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Lasti
Trad climber
Budapest
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Best. Non-climbing. Thread. Ever.
I'll just put it out there: de gustibus non est disputandum.
I don't think there can be a generally accepted best beer. Not even for a single person. Sometimes you'll pick one and other times another. It's all good. Even the really crappy beer can be good after a long day.
Lot's of Belgian breweries were mentioned here. I used to live in Belgium and made it my mission to taste as many (normal) beers as possible. Given the limitations of my liver and wallet, didn't get very far, maybe 40 different beers. Didn't try all the mango, banana and other flavours, cuz' that's just crazy.
My personal Belgian short list would be:
Orval - first choice, the rest is in no particular order
La Chouffe
Trapistes Rochefort - any of their beers
Lindemans Kriek - very good on a hot day, has nothing to do with beer though
Chimay - the blue one
Westmalle Tripel
and a few I can't remember...
Lasti
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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It is a well known FACT that PBR is the best beer in the world. Especially after a hard days work on the rocks. At $6 bucks a bottle you must do more workin than climbin...otherwise I wouldn't have to explain that to you. Quit your job go climbin hard and give a PBR a try and see if you don't agree.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
East Coast US
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Recently I've liked Palm:
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Just had a Russian River Hill 56, Row 21 Simcoe Hop IPA the other day. Very tasty!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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PBR is fine at room temp, in fact better than most beers that are traditionally served that way.
In Australia, they drive around with their beer in a cooler w/o ice and it's called "Kimberly cool." On account of there's no effin' ice in the Kimberlys.
I had to read that in a book. If it were up to me and I had to choose a place to go to "travel" I would choose Oz, home of the real beer drinkers.
mountainlion, my shout. Two PBRs!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I've been drinking this for about a year now, ever since the guy at the liquor store suggested it ( he knows what I like, because I'm a really good customer at that liquor store )
And every year I drive up to Washington to visit my folks, and almost always end up staying one night in Petaluma. My flea-bag of choice is just a few blocks from Lagunitas Brewing, and always has been. But I never knew it until I looked them up on The Web.
I just now found this out.
So tonight ( I'm holed-up in Petaluma again, this time on purpose ) I paid them a visit, and kicked myself for never doing that before ( I never knew they were even there )
Lagunitas Brewing is BETTER THAN F*#KING DISNEYLAND. Happiest place I've ever been!
To start with, Dogs are welcome there. Mine had at least six to keep her company.
And the food is great, from what I could see. My Ruben sandwich was among the best I've ever eaten, and I eat Rubens all over the place.
Then, midway into my visit - while the sun was still shining - the band fired up. The two guys ( accoustic guitar and stand-up bass ) launched into a talking bluegrass rap sort of song.
Live music. Great beer. Great food. And DOG friendly. I don't care if I go to Heaven or not when I'm through now, because I've already been there and done that. It's in Petaluma!
I wish I had known about this joint years ago.
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol
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Chaz- WTF? That is, Wilco Tango Foxtrot... One of my favs at Lagunitas. Enjoy! I'm just up the road in Sebastopol. Look me up some time.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I'm going back right now. I'm walking this time, now that I know dogs are welcome. That way, I can have more than one beer.
I seriously had tears in my eyes eating there, I was that happy. A man's got to get in touch with his emotional, femenine side once in a while, doesn't he?
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boston
Trad climber
squamish bc
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IF you have ever been to Squamish try out all the Howe Sound Brew pubs micro brews.Yummy
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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These are all pretty tasty.
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Les
Trad climber
Bahston
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Got to try both the Russian River Pliny the Elder and the Alchemist Brewing Co.'s (VT) Heady Topper recently, head to head. Slight nod to the Heady Topper, but both are out of this world and blew away other IPAs I consider very good, like Southern Tier Unearthly and Stone Ruination.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Best beer ever is going to be the one I brew using these hops, just harvested yesterday from my garden...
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Sredni Vashtar
Social climber
LA CA via UK
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Ha, Samuel Smiths. I dont mind their beer but friends of mine will walk out of pubs when they see its a SS establishment. good thing is that their draught beers are by far the cheapest in all of Londonshire. its funny to see it sold here on the west coast. east coast just wouldnt be as funny. or the middle.
add an old speckled hen to that mix or a black sheep ale
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 11, 2012 - 10:36pm PT
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Really good Pilseners are hard to find, especially in North America. This one's a treasure
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 11, 2012 - 11:09pm PT
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Spaten.
One of my favorites.
I will have to try the SOB pilsner soon.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 12, 2012 - 12:13am PT
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I was just bitching to Hamid the Friendly Christian Syrian Beer Pusher that
he had a paucity of any pilsners, let alone North American. I'm gonna put
the screws to him for some SOB.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 12, 2012 - 01:19am PT
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It's odd, but living on the US West Coast one gets used to a huge selection of incredibly good ales, and a modest selection of lagers with a lot to be modest about. It's easy to conclude that lagers are just inherently inferior.
And then you taste the real thing, and... Well, I was going to say that a whole new world of beer opens up to you, but in fact what happens is that you embark on an endlessly frustrating search for it in your local stores, and finally go back to drinking IPAs and stouts. Or brewing it yourself. (Which, if anything, is easier on the brewing side than ales, but which then requires highly controlled refrigeration and a lot of time.)
But these guys in Oregon have done a pretty amazing job of nailing Czech Pilsener. And what's even better is that it's only 4.8% ABV, so you can have a second one.
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pell
Trad climber
Sunnyvale
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Sep 12, 2012 - 04:13am PT
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Best. Beer. Ever. I. Am. Consuming. It. Right. Now. Period.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Oct 28, 2012 - 08:55pm PT
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Tonight's flight:
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 28, 2012 - 08:56pm PT
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Oct 28, 2012 - 11:32pm PT
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She hates you and she hates her job. This beer’s as bitter as she is. But, she gets to go to Paris twice a month and you don't.
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briham89
Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
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Oct 28, 2012 - 11:34pm PT
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^I'll take any airline with their own IPA
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 24, 2012 - 06:57pm PT
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Shared a bottle of this with some friends last night:
In related news, Alan Sprints put a handful of the legendary Dave bottles up for auction (proceeds went to Guide Dogs for the Blind). A pair of the bottles fetched $4.5K.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Nov 24, 2012 - 08:35pm PT
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Ask Wayno or Steve Grossman about this one...
I always thought of this sour cherry ale as something that might have been made at an eighteenth century English public house, something the landlord's daughter would have served to a weary traveler, not knowing that he was a highwayman just one step ahead of the law.
Or maybe she did know…
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Nov 24, 2012 - 10:13pm PT
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made in vermont,and not exported,krausened,bottle conditioned,unfiltered,american pale.only in 22oz or keg.like a real good homebrew
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Phil_B
Social climber
Hercules, CA
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Nov 24, 2012 - 11:55pm PT
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In Thailand now. I was kinda hoping that this close to India, we'd see some IPA's, but alas, all we have are guys trying to make a suit for me. I guess I'll have another Singha or maybe a Changa or maybe a Carlsburg. They all taste the same as long as they're cold.
Meh, at least we found some good beer in Singapore. If it only didn't cost $20/pint. . .
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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The local brew:
This one's their Porter.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 27, 2012 - 12:07am PT
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 27, 2012 - 12:12am PT
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Stahlbro, I don't know what the other pluses and minuses of living in Sandy Eggo are,
but having Port Brewing/Lost Abbey as a local institution probably doesn't suck.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Dec 27, 2012 - 12:35am PT
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Speaking of The Lost Abbey, have you tried Cable Car Kriek?
Good luck finding that!
Edit: For those in SF, Toronado has some nice bottles for cheap, including Affligem Noel ($10),
and Santa's Little Helper ($15). There are several others as well. Get 'em while you can...
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 27, 2012 - 10:02am PT
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Word Ghost.
Port Brewing/Lost Abbey is 5 min from the abode. Stone is 10min.
Needless to say I have thoroughly supported both ;-)
Chaz,
Really dig the Hangar 24 too!
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The New Age Blitzo
Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Dec 27, 2012 - 11:59am PT
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End of History Beer from Brew Dog. $750.00 a bottle!
Utopias 10th Anniversary Barleywine from Samuel Adams. $190.00 a bottle!
Asylum from Left Coast. 11+% ABV, Only $5.99 a bottle. A great brew!
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Dec 27, 2012 - 12:41pm PT
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I've recently found the best beer known to man. It's the Maudite, brewed in Quebec.
Barf.... sour and flat all at the same time with a hint of "stale"..... 6 thumbs down out of 5.
Sorry boys, I have tried this a few times now... maybe an aquired taste?
Current fav right now... "A Little Sumpin, Sumpin Ale", by Lagunitas.
You should try one right now.
They even took a old photo of my WIFE and used it on the label... memories.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 10, 2013 - 11:21pm PT
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Tonight's flight:
Bigfoot Ale and "What The Hell Did Jesse Jackson Say?" on the radio.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 11, 2013 - 12:30am PT
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I just tapped a keg of Sierra Nevada Imperial Pilsner. Pretty good for a west coast pilsner.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 11, 2013 - 01:04am PT
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The Weihenstephaner pilsner is definitely one of the best.
Their hefe is PDG, too. Didn't know they are the "World's oldest brewery."
The Allagash is also outstanding.
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SeaJellie
Trad climber
Booolduh
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Jan 11, 2013 - 11:52am PT
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Hey Ghost, why do you say that lagers, if anything, are easier to brew than ales?
In any of you climber types somehow find yourself stuck in Michigan in winter, head to the store to buy Bell's HopSlam. Not the best beer ever, but for an American DIPA, pretty darn good. Emphasizes hop flavor and aroma over excessive bitterness.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
East Coast US
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Jan 11, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
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It's Friday afternoon (here) and this thread is just a very nice precursor to the Friday night drinking thread.
"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading."
-Henny Youngman
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jan 11, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
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Hey Ghost, why do you say that lagers, if anything, are easier to brew than ales?
Uh... Because they are? I dunno. Simpler grain bill. Fewer hop additions. Shorter boil times. You do need temperature-controllable refrigeration, but given that you have that, then pretty simple fermentation schedule...
Why do you ask?
Edit to add: This is not to say that you can't go insane trying to control some hideously complex triple decoction mash, but with the well-modified malt available now there's no real need for that. Brewing an insanely great Pilsener is a pretty straightforward job.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 11, 2013 - 01:46pm PT
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Maybe I'm just not looking for them, but I've noticed about half the small brew-joints don't make lagers, but they all have pale ales, IPAs, and most of them have porters.
How did the lager manage to become The Official Beer Of America for so long?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jan 11, 2013 - 01:53pm PT
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Maybe I'm just not looking for them, but I've noticed about half the small brew-joints don't make lagers, but they all have pale ales, IPAs, and most of them have porters.
Because ales are cheaper to brew. The ingredients are more expensive, but lagers require cold temps - both for fermentation and for some time after - and storage at cold temps is expensive.
How did the lager manage to become The Official Beer Of America for so long?
This requires a much, much longer answer, and I've got to get back to work -- deadline time here -- but if nobody else chimes in, I'll do my best tonight or tomorrow.
Edit to add: Don't listen to Dingus. He spent some time in Rio recently, and it did funny things to his brain. Something about all those barely-covered female bodies...
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Jan 11, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
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Because lager ,here in the us ,has been crafted by the big breweries,with adjuncts like corn,rice and wheat,to lighten body and flavor. The big brewers save alot of money w/adjuncts.They also blend huge batches,for consistency.Budwieser has been brewed w/ as many as 20 different hop varieties,so year to year it can remain consistent.As for why lager has/was the most popular,well,we can blame /look to our fathers generation for steering away from real beer.The real beer [both ales and lagers] examples of their generation were pretty average compared to todays . Yeah, i homebrew too.
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Jan 11, 2013 - 02:14pm PT
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I could sure drink a Yuengling Lager right about now. Americas oldest.
And my hands down favorite.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Jan 11, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
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The other part of the equation why lagers are the beer of america is simply this,There were as many as 3500 breweries in the us before prohabition.Many ,local,as beer was not shipped around as it is today.Real beer,as ales or lager,were just that ,they could spoil quick,they suffered from being transported.They were and still are fresh products. Prohabition came and went,few breweries made it through.The ones that came about,after,miller,busch,coors,labbatt,molson,became huge,they lobbied hard to protect their craft.They made it very hard to become a brewery.Hell it was even illegal to homebrew for quite sometime.They had a virtual stranglehold on the us marketplace,save for a few regional breweries,thus the north american lager became commonplace. Thank someone that sierra nevada,red hook and sam adams started the microbrew revolution.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Jan 11, 2013 - 02:50pm PT
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I finally wandered into a local tavern down the street to discover I'm totally uneducated on today's good beer, ale, etc. The place is called "Skep & Skein" and can be found at http://www.skepandskein.com/ I had a pint of the day's special - Hale's Supergoose IPA. This IPA is naturally carbonated and served from a cask. It was essentially like a homemade beer with really tiny bubbles. While enjoying this IPA, the tender offered me a sample of Firestone Walker Wookey Jack; I was blown away by this black ale. It was really complex. I would say it was one of the best ale I've ever had. Next time I'm going to walk over - that way I can have a few! Check it out.
http://www.beermenus.com/places/4198-skep-and-skein-tavern
FIRESTONE WALKER WOOKEY JACK BLACK RYE IPA
100
ABV: 8.3%
IBU: 60.0
DESCRIPTION
STYLE: Black IPA
Wookey Jack is our first foray into the dark outer world of black IPAs. Rich dark malts and spicy rye careen into bold citrus laden hops creating a new dimension in IPA flavor. This brew has been left unfiltered and unfined to retain all of its texture and character. At 60 IBUs, Wookey Jack is gnarly on the outside yet complex and refined on the inside.
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 11, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
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Thank someone that sierra nevada,red hook and sam adams started the microbrew revolution.
You're forgetting Fritz Maytag and Anchor Brewing who were doing craft beer a decade or more before those you mention.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Jan 11, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
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froodish your right,but sierra nevada put the thing in gear.
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SeaJellie
Trad climber
Boolduh
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Jan 11, 2013 - 06:47pm PT
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hey Ghost, I asked about the ease of lagers vs. ales because that's not what I'd guess most homebrewers would say. But it's true that you weren't comparing the ease of brewing a "gud lager" vs. "gud ale", so in that case I guess I have less of an argument! Anyway nobody much cares around here, just wondering. Thanks.
So let's see, best beer ever? Tonight, it's my ho-made Baltic Porter.. brewed w/ German lager yeast as it so happens. Tomorrow, it might be hopslam on tap.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jan 11, 2013 - 06:53pm PT
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TMJesse, the local pizza joint (Killer Pizza from Mars) is a big Firestone fan. They have the Wookie Jack and regular IPA on tap. Both are delicious.
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SeaJellie
Trad climber
Boolduh
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Jan 11, 2013 - 06:55pm PT
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oh yeah. to the reason why lagers are so big here? they are big almost everywhere in the world, and account for a huge percent of all beer consumed.
To the reasons listed above, add German immigration in the 1800s to America as a big reason for getting it so established. They brought their yeast and hops with them, and adapted their style to the grains they could get here. Then add to that consumer tastes for something inoffensive and clean and thirst quenching (try drinking a Baltic Porter after working on the farm all day in the hot sun - or try going back to work after that). And process; Lager brewing, done right, can get you a beer that stays more biologically and taste stable for a longer period of time, and so can be shipped further (historically speaking of course - don't matter as much now).
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 16, 2013 - 12:10am PT
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Had a decent brew at the Mexican restaurant in Moab last month. Not the best ever but gets marks for ballsy Salt Lake brewer.
Funny too
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jan 16, 2013 - 12:44am PT
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I was going to try to answer the "why is lager so popular" question when I got clear of my current deadline, but that took longer than expected and it looks like SeaJellie stepped up.
To his/her answer, I'd add a couple of things. First, the Eighteenth Amendment to the US Constitution ended commercial brewing in 1920, and it wasn't until thirteen years had passed that the Twenty-first Amendment ended that prohibition. For most small breweries, that was a death sentence, and when commercial production of beer became legal again in 1933, it quickly became the province of large corporations.
These corporations rapidly bought out, or put out of business, most of the smaller operations that tried to get into brewing, and then they began to buy out one another until only a handful of big breweries were left, brewing close to 95% of the beer in the US.
And big corporations do not market to small niches. The big breweries wanted to produce as few different beers as possible, and those beers were marketed to the mass public. Lager was what they brewed.
The second factor was the growth and honing of marketing and advertising. When history is studied a few hundred years from now, it may be that the thing the US in the 20th century is remembered for is the invention of scientific advertising. The big breweries could afford to hire the most sophisticated marketing outfits the planet had ever seen, and soon Americans were swilling the most industrialized product ever marketed as beer, and believing that they loved it.
All of which is not to say that a good lager is not a thing of beauty, but rather that what Budweiser et al were producing was not good lager.
Edit: I'm not normally a fan of ultra-high-alcohol beers, but the good folks across the water at Sound Brewery may have shown me the light...
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:18pm PT
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The one I'm drinking now.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 16, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
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Yeah, that was sheer genius, if entertaining, to pitch beer by frogs.
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Reeotch
Trad climber
4 Corners Area
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Jan 16, 2013 - 06:31pm PT
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The best beer for me is always the first one of the evening.
The test of a truly good beer is one that still tastes as good as the first one when you're half way through a 12 pak . . .
Red Hook IPA was always a good "stand-by"
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TREED
Trad climber
Gunks
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Jan 16, 2013 - 08:53pm PT
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I have been poping in here.......... http://www.newburghbrewing.com/
They are making some really great brews. If you are near "The Burgh" it's worth the detour past the ghetto.
Start with a cream ale. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......
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SeaJellie
Trad climber
Boolduh
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Jan 29, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
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From beerpulse, John Mallet of Bells (Director of Brewing Operations) on Hopslam.
"I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.”
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jan 29, 2013 - 01:22pm PT
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It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.”
Best beer quote ever!
Euros used to say the new American beers smelled like cat piss. Now it seems like every second European brewer is making their own version.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 29, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
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Do they still import beer here from Europe?
Why?
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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Jan 29, 2013 - 03:32pm PT
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^^^^^one reason is monks in Belgium make some badass beer.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Jan 29, 2013 - 03:49pm PT
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Chaz' question is actually a pretty reasonable one given how far American brewers have come.
Still, with stuff like La Chouffe and Chimay still being made overseas (not to mention many other brews of equal quality), that's reason enough. The more beers the better.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 29, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
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Tornado's right. I've had some really unique brews that came out of the Trappiste Monestaries.
It wasn't that long ago ( or maybe it was a long time ago, and I just got an early start drinking ) when if you wanted a decent beer, you were drinking imports.
I remember the first good American beer I ever had - Anchor Steam. Next was a SLO Brew something or other, and I had to go to San Luis Obispo to get it.
The only time I ever drink an imported beer anymore is Mexican beer in Mexican restaurants. Nothing washes down a Combo Plate like a Negra Modelo.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Jan 29, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
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Yes, Negra Modelo is by far the best choice for a Mexican beer that one can find with a reasonable amount of frequency.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Feb 18, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
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This is perty good!
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 18, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
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Join the beautiful people who drink beer....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 19, 2013 - 12:24am PT
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This is some realllly gud stuff:
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Feb 25, 2013 - 12:51am PT
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Tonight's flight.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Feb 25, 2013 - 01:16am PT
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The one I wish I was drinking now.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
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I love that this thread is still going. Beer is good.
I just discovered an excellent beer, Steel Reserve.
Tastes like sh#t, but two tall boys and your need for further beer is no longer present. Three bucks for a buzz.
Ahhhh, embrace the schwill.....
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Feb 28, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
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does Tucker drink beer? real beer?
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lars johansen
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Feb 28, 2013 - 08:40pm PT
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Lean, mean, and green...Green Rooster.
lars
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Murderers' Row
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 14, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
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What, did y'all stop drinking beer?
So, I've laid in me supplies for the most hallowed day o' the year.
But I can't find proper Irish soda bread. :-{
I've just discovered Pothole Filler from Squamton's finest brewery!
It is quite a decent effort and sure it'll be a good addition to
tomorrow's lineup.
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet
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Mar 14, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
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Samuel Smith's Organic ale.
But I'll probably have at least one Guinness this weekend.
Corned Beef & Cabbage with red potatoes, yum.
(Lynne, have you had Bob's corned beef & cabbage yet?)
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
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Reilly, I hope you're doing corned beef and cabbage as well.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Mar 14, 2013 - 10:31pm PT
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Here's a good one that I don't remember seeing so far in this thread.
Ninkasi Brewing in Eugene Oregon makes a couple of very good IPAs. This one is their double. Balanced about as well as a double IPA can be.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Mar 14, 2013 - 10:34pm PT
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I have Julia, and it's fantastic. Bob did some stellar family nights at TPR last summer. Will you be in the Eastern Sierra this summer.....enjoying the scenery and the beer? (just to keep on topic here. :D)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 14, 2013 - 10:41pm PT
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I had dinner at the Ninkasi Brewery last year. The beer was excellent.
Don't have any memory of the food. I don't think it wasn't good, but...
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 15, 2013 - 01:08am PT
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last weekend enjoyed a Green Flash Barleywine style Ale... interesting but perhaps a bit too much on the alcohol..
interesting mix of malt and hops...
got a Allagash Tripel waiting for this weekend...
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jabbas
Trad climber
phx AZ
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Mar 15, 2013 - 01:25am PT
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Full Sail LTD Pale Bock tis me choice !!
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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Mar 15, 2013 - 02:44am PT
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last weekend enjoyed a Green Flash Barleywind
'tis barleywine season!
I had a pint of the Green Flash and quite liked it. This season's Bigfoot fron Sierra Nevada is out too and always worth a pint. I thought the offering from Uinta was very worthy as well.
"And malt does more than Milton can
To justify God’s ways to man."
 A E Housman
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 25, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
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Time to get this thread back in view, and what better way than with one of the best IPAs I've ever tasted. And it's totally climbing related, because it comes from Avery brewing -- which is owned by a climber.
Get it while you can, because it's a one-time brew.
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Stimbo
Trad climber
Crowley Lake
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Jun 25, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
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My daughter brought this home from Maine. It was REALLY tasty.
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Stimbo
Trad climber
Crowley Lake
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Jun 25, 2013 - 09:49pm PT
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There's quality versus quantity. The empties after a few days of steelhead fishing.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 25, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
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The empties after a few days of steelhead fishing.
Man, each of those cans in the picture is bigger than your tent! Steel head? If I drank even one of those giant beers I'd be cement head, not steel head.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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How to open a Beer!
There is very good information on this video-----and maybe a smile or three.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Fritzi, were all those yer relatives? Impressive!
How many trips to the ER resulted from that video?
The absolute dumbassed one was the upside down circular saw - my bunghole
cinched up instantly seeing that!
But worst of all was the beer wasted in many of those!
HEINOUS CRIME AGAINST BEERMANITY!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Definitely not the best beer ever. Or even close to the best beer ever. But a fun commercial
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 18, 2013 - 12:59am PT
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Pretty damn close to the best brewery in the galaxy
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 18, 2013 - 01:21am PT
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Well, Ghost, they'd better ramp things up a tad cause that rig ain't gonna
supply the galaxy. No wonder I've not heard of them. But I'll take yer word for it.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 18, 2013 - 07:18pm PT
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Definitely a small brewery, but what they produce is off-the-charts good. They're across Puget Sound in Poulsbo, but their beers are not too hard to find in Seattle.
http://www.soundbrewery.com/
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 18, 2013 - 07:31pm PT
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Straight from Stowe VT. I've had it at the brewery, but saw it in sixers at the grocery store today. Nice.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 18, 2013 - 07:45pm PT
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Tried one of these...pretty good!
"It's twister proof!"
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
Reno, Nevada
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Jul 24, 2013 - 07:25pm PT
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A friend of mine owns Figure Eight Brewing. He's got some good names for his grog like Camp 4 Brown Ale, Offwidth, Choss... even a Pirate's Pil. Yarrr!
http://www.figure8brewing.com/
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julton
climber
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Jul 24, 2013 - 08:07pm PT
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It's not this one
I love the Stone Imperial Stout. It's wonderful just like their other beers. But the espresso version tastes almost exactly like a chocloate espresso clif bar. It's the first time in many years that I poured a beer down the sink.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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A couple of climber beers to give a shout-out for.
First one is a tiny brewery in Yakima, WA. We were crag hunting in the area a few weeks ago and discovered an IPA from the Bale Breaker brewery on tap in a local pub. We tried it with pretty low expectations, but it was really, really good. So if you're climbing at any of the crags along or near to the Tieton River, look for Topcutter IPA from Bale Breaker. They make both the IPA and one other beer available for retail sale, but only in the local market. Can't even get it in Seattle.
And then, there's the good stuff. Doesn't have a name. Even the brewery doesn't have a name, other than "my basement."
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Ghost, your pride is understandable but have you wondered about that van
parked down the street the last few days?
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Ghost; thanks for the pointer to Sound Brewery. I'll try a couple if I can find them. I'm partial to porters or English style ales myself. Too much of a hop taste makes me crabby!
Apropos Yakima's Bale Breaker brewery: Burt Grant's brewery, also in Yakima, was super cool and sometimes given credit for starting the micro brew revolution in the PNW and forwarding it across the States. I don't like having a beer after a climb when I have to drive anymore, but back in the 90's, that was a big draw to climbing along the Tieton River. I think Grant's has been out of business for at least 5 years.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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but have you wondered about that van parked down the street the last few days?
The van?
Yeah, it's been there for a few days, a bit north of here, in front of the big antenna. But I thought it was the Cat Detector Van. They've been sending me emails about pet licenses, you know. Along with bloody bullshit about fines if they find unlicensed pets. But I wasn't too worried, because the coyotes ate the cat over a year ago.
Good luck to them, I thought. Sit out there for the next bloody year if you want. My cat's f*#king dead, and I've checked the municipal pet laws, and it's bloody clear that only live pets are required to be licensed. So knock on my door whenever you want, and I'll tell you where to stick your bloody pet license.
But you're saying it might be the Beer Detector Van?
F*#k.
This could be serious.
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slidingmike
climber
CA
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Fans of Pliny the Elder and Stone Ruination... If you're ever in Oregon (particularly in Bend), check out Boneyard's RPM -- an incredibly rich IPA. The Terrebonne Depot pours it if you're near Smith Rock. I just wish those damn Oregonians wouldn't drink it all so we could get some down south!
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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Ghost, nice conical fermenter. That from blichmann? I've been eyeing one of those for a while. How do you like it?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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I've been eyeing one of those for a while. How do you like it?
I like it a lot. We also make a a fair bit of wine, so it gets used for that, too.
Couple of things to think about if you're planning to acquire one, PM me if you want to pursue this.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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This might knott be the Best. Beer. Ever. But at 13.7% ABV, it's pretty close to the Biggest. Beer. Ever.
-knott to mention one of the most Exclusive. Beers. Ever.
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
Reno, Nevada
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Whoaa, HK... that looks dangerous.
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lucander
Trad climber
Shawangunks, New York
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Sipping one of these every night ranks just behind Grand Wall and White Lightning on my favorite Squamish memories.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 7, 2013 - 04:59pm PT
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I've realized that Maudite is better as a cold weather beer. Doesn't really do it for me in the summertime.
Tonight, Dogfish Head 90 minute. Good stuff!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Dogfish 90 minute, very good,but not while im drinking.
Southern Tier Live is a staple in these parts
Brandon,that Shed Mountain Ale is pretty damn good as well!
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
Reno, Nevada
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Tonight, Dogfish Head 90 minute. Good stuff!
Oh, one of my favorites. They make a 120 minute, as well. But, it can get you in some trouble, if you're not careful, ha ha.
You guys should really check out the beer list at Figure 8 Brewery:
http://figureeightbrewing.com/blog/brewery/brews/
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Magic Ed
Trad climber
Nuevo Leon, Mexico
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Whatever happened to Black Dallas?? "Smooth as evening dusk."
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 19, 2013 - 11:54pm PT
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Three years ago I posted a story about Nature's visit to the Pacific Northwest. There was climbing, and naked baristas, and vomiting. But there was also a picture with Nature drinking a beer out of what SteveW called "a fu fu glass."
My response was that it was in that glass because beer that good deserved a special glass. It was a sour cherry dubbel I'd brewed the year before, and I thought it was beyond ultra awesome.
Well, yeah, sure, I was probably into the beer a bit when I posted that reply, and maybe overhyping my own beer.
Or maybe not. Last night, searching the cellar for something else (Climbing gear? Laundry soap? Our long-lost induction cooker?) I stumbled on a bottle of that very brew. A now four-year-old cherry dubbel.
Oh, Mama! However good it was then, it was an order of magnitude better these many years later. And the hunt is on to see if there is maybe -- please, god? -- another bottle down there amongst the spiderwebs.
Original story is at http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1243593/Nature-visits-the-Non-stop-Erotic-Cabaret-vaguely-on-topic if anyone cares.
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 20, 2013 - 12:58am PT
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This unlikely to be "best" of anything, and it definitely will not be beer. But when I drove through BC to Alaska a few times back in the 80s, I would always pick up really good Okanogan extra dry pear cider (brand?) to bring to friends and drink myself. I haven't been able to find any of the good (dry) stuff here in Seattle. But we have a pretty good pear tree in our backyard, an so I'm giving it a go. I'm hoping for "drinkable in a desperate pinch".
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 20, 2013 - 01:32am PT
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and maybe overhyping my own beer
No dude, it was that good. I've tried several versions of Ghost's Cherry Dubbel and that one was exceptionally severe. The latest version is extremely severe.
Dave, remember that one dubbel that we liked so much because of how "funky" it was, and Mimi thought we were nuts and couldn't drink it?
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 20, 2013 - 11:22am PT
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Third that on the magical Cherry goodness!
Kinda like the Brewbarb myself even thought it ain't for everyone.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 20, 2013 - 11:42am PT
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I'm hoping for "drinkable in a desperate pinch".
Let us know how it turns out. Mari and I have been making cider for years, but it is generally too dry for my taste. I've looked at what's required to produce the kind of cider I like, and it's too much trouble.
As to the cherry dubbel, there's plenty of both kinds (regular, and funked up with brettanomyces), so stay thirsty my friends.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 29, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
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Right at the moment the Best Beer Ever is The Highwayman, a Pidgeon Point Brewery offering from 2011.
Less than a bathtubfull full I'd wager and brewed by a Ghost so you know you'll end up haunted in the end.
A very young X3 Tripel Overhang was negotiated without falling off in the meantime.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 30, 2013 - 12:31am PT
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Right at the moment the Best Beer Ever is The Highwayman, a Pigeon Point Brewery offering from 2011.
Thanks. It is sometimes "the best beer ever" for me, too. Mostly way late at night, with a storm whipping the trees around outside the windows, and a single small light illuminating the book in my lap.
I don't know if anyone cares, but the story behind it started seven or eight years ago when I read a suggestion that using a middle-of-the-road dubbel as the base for a sour cherry beer might be a good idea. So I experimented, and brewed a couple of batches that were pretty good. In a blaze of inspiration I labeled them "sour cherry dubbel." Sort of the same as I call my IPA "IPA", and my pilsner "pilsner." Not very exciting, but I'm not competeting for shelf space so who cares?
At around that time I also became interested in some of the sour and wild-yeast-fermented beers still being brewed in Belgium, and thought the sour cherry dubbel would be a good platform to launch from. And so it turned out to be. Brew a dubbel. Give it long primary fermentation, then dump boatloads of cherries into the secondary and re-pitch with brettanomyces.
And wait. For several years.
Brettanomyces will eat things that normal beer yeast (saccharomyces) won't. Things left over after saccharomyces is full and has left the table. It produces more alcohol and more CO2, but it also leaves behind something else. Think about climbing into your friend's van after he just got back from a six-month road trip. Your next-door neighbor would gag, but for you... Well, yeah, you've been there. Climbing shoes. Old underwear. Dirty ropes. Sex. Unwashed clothes. Sweat. Kind of like coming home.
Brettanomyces doesn't leave the vibe of old socks or underwear behind, but anyone who's spent much time around horses will get a trip down memory lane. "Horse sweat" is the descriptor most commonly used for the odd funk that comes off a glass of something that's been chewed on by Brett.
Good? Bad? Depends on the drinker. Once upon a time, it was simply a part of all beer, and probably all wine, too. Wooden barrels were the only storage vessels available, and there probably wasn't a barrel in the universe that didn't harbor a vast colony of Brettanomyces. No real way to get it out. Now, of course, we can sterilize anything, and don't have to worry about "off flavors" in our fermented food and drink. But then, one man's "off flavor" is the next man's delight.
I loved it.
And for whatever reason, decided that calling it "funked up sour cherry dubbel" just wasn't right. And out of the depths of memory came a vision from tales my father told me when I was a child. Tales of the 18th century English highwayman Dick Turpin and his horse Black Bess. Tales probably no more true than those of Robin Hood, or Salah ad-Din, or Billy the Kid, but indelibly engraved on my my memory.
And what would Dick Turpin drink when he had once again escaped the Sheriff's men and tied Bess to the rail in front of his favorite public house?
"Ah, Molly, I'm parched," he'd say.
And a pint of ale she'd have given him. Not much in the way of hops back then, but probably boosted with cherries from the trees around the village, and stored for a year or two in wooden casks. With a whiff of the same smell he would be confronted with when he went back out and stabled Bess.
So, "The Highwayman"
And looking around for a suitable picture for the label I found this...
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Oct 13, 2013 - 11:21pm PT
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Tonight's flight:
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Oct 13, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
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Hoptimum is good stuff. Wish it was a little cheaper.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Oct 13, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Oct 14, 2013 - 06:09am PT
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That^^^^is pretty damn hard to argue against!
Sierra Nevada Pale Ale,It is widely available,truly consistent and never over the top.
A session Ale in its finest form.
Not To mention ,bottle conditioned.I have used it to start many a batch of homebrew.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Nov 15, 2013 - 11:45pm PT
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Nov 15, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
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I don't drink beer...But must give a shout out to my home town Brewery..
Don't drink beer? How odd. Some new religious cult? Lupulin aversion? Fear of barley?
Whatever. But yes, Sierra Nevada does deserve some love. They've taken the hop torpedo thing and done something wonderful with it. And they sell it at a price that is climber-friendly.
Here's a photo of their hop torpedoes waiting to go into operation
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Nov 16, 2013 - 06:08am PT
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2013 - 08:46am PT
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Ok, explain the Hop Torpedo, if you don't mind. I love that beer, never knew the name had any significance.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Nov 16, 2013 - 01:28pm PT
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Ok, explain the Hop Torpedo, if you don't mind. I love that beer, never knew the name had any significance.
During the brewing process, after draining the mash you're left with a sweet liquid. It won't be beer until the yeast metabolize the sugar into alcohol, but before that happens, the sweet liquid (called wort) is boiled and hops are added to the boil. It takes a prolonged and vigorous boil to extract the bitterness from the hops, and by the time you've reached a level of bitterness sufficient for whatever style of beer you're making, the flavor and aroma of the hops has long since boiled off. If you're making a lager, that's good, because you really don't want hop flavor or aroma, just a bit of bitterness to balance the malt.
But for what we think of now as IPA, you want plenty of hop flavor and aroma. Traditionally, this was achieved by throwing a bunch of hops in at the end of the boil. Not boiling them, just letting them soak in the hot wort. Of course they are strained out once the wort cools and before it goes into the fermentor.
To get even more flavor and aroma, brewers would wait until the fermentation was done, then add a bunch of hops to the beer and let it sit for a few days (dry hopping) before straining it off and bottling or kegging.
But then came the desire for even more hop flavor and aroma. Enter the torpedo. Probably so named because of its shape. It is a tank, of whatever size, that can be stuffed with hops. Beer is pumped from the big fermenting tank into the torpedo and back into the fermentor in a continuous recirculation loop (with a screen at the exit point from the torpedo, so the hops stay where they belong). This goes on for hours, or days, or weeks, and because the temp is low, relatively little bitterness is extracted, just flavor and aroma.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
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Thanks!
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Nov 16, 2013 - 06:35pm PT
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Oh, and....
And, if you're on a river trip, you can freeze this and put it in the cooler, cause it still tastes right after it thaws out...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Nov 16, 2013 - 10:38pm PT
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When what you really want is a Belgian strong ale, this is hard to beat
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Nov 17, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Nov 17, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 17, 2013 - 07:26pm PT
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I don't always drink beer because when I don't I'm better for it, or so the wife tells me.
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Bluelens
climber
Pasadena, CA
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Nov 17, 2013 - 08:05pm PT
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Excellent apple ciders, for those done chasing the elusive pear.
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lucander
Trad climber
Shawangunks, New York
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Nov 17, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
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Gunkies: don't miss Newburgh Brewery (2 miles off I-87) > Newburgh Conspiracy is on tap. Revolutionary War history buffs will appreciate the name, the rest will appreciate the taste of this 11% Russian Imperial Stout.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Nov 18, 2013 - 01:14am PT
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CAMRA fans will be delighted to know that the Imperial, a scaled up version to hold a Canadi
This is where I would normally go into the rant about how CAMRA may have saved "real ale," but in so doing held back brewing innovation in Britain for almost three decades.
But it's late, I'm tired, and I think I'll have a little sip of something far better than the real ale they saved, then nod off to sleep.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Nov 18, 2013 - 01:22am PT
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^in beer teminology, that's two words. just sayin'
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Dec 27, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
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A top ten for me.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 28, 2013 - 03:35am PT
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Coors, man.
I'm pretty sure that it is brewed by the Illuminati.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 28, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
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Tried this one on a whim a few days ago. It was so good I went back to the bottle shop and picked up more.
It's Taras Boulba, an "extra hoppy ale" from Brasserie de la Senne, in Belgium. Just 4.5% abv, and really good.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Picked up a three pack of Ommegang, or whatever it's called, but I'm here to tell ya the
Three Philosophers is the real deal! I feel so much more, well, all-encompassing!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Three Philosophers is the real deal! I feel so much more, well, all-encompassing
Why "Three Philosophers"? It's from an unpublished manuscript by William Blake called An Island in the Moon, which is about an England-type island in a sea on the moon. "In this Island dwells three Philosophers: Suction the Epicurean, Quid the Cynic, and Sipsop the Pythagorean."
But why did the Ommegang people call that dark strong Belgian-style ale "Three Philosophers"? Because they'd worked with a home brewer named Blake in developing it.
Beer names are just as stupid as climb names. Or just as clever.
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Yuengling put out an AMAZING Oktoberfest this year. Aside from their Lager, I'd have to call it the best.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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I had the best beer ever today.
Boulder Beer Company gave away a free beer today between noon and 1:30PM.
Best beer ever is free beer.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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What's in a name?
A friend bought a bottle of Unibroue Terrible and concluded that it was exactly that. LOL
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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What's in a name?
Ah, Steve, perhaps tomorrow you shall find out.
I'm thinking of showing up at your place in time to catch the opening kick-off in the 49ers - Packers game. If I do, it'll be with a couple of bottles from the Crux Fermentation Project. Which is an interesting name in itself. Particularly since it's within a stone's throw of the rock at Smith. And their beers carry interesting names too.
And taste amazingly good. In fact, I just finished a glass of their "Tough Love" stout. It was like drinking crankcase oil with dirt in it. Fabulous!
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Feb 13, 2014 - 08:58am PT
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BEST? Bah! There is no best, except for on that day you are drinking THAT particular beer. It's all relative. But there are quite a few great beers.
I remember when Sierra Nevada came out. We couldn't believe how good it was! Before that, there was Dos Eques and Negra Modelo (both fest style beers at the time...Dos has been ruined since then), Bohemia one of the best Pilsners, and Anchor Steam. I don't think I had had a pale ale before trying Sierra Nevada, or if I had it was highly forgettable. Cascade hops pouring out of the bottle. They still make a great beer, but the Cascade hops has been replaced.
Still haven't found any helles bock or hefeweizen made in the US that are great. We still haven't gotten the subtlety down yet for these two beer types. Ayinger brewery is one of my favorite German Brewers and it's easy to get here.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 13, 2014 - 11:42am PT
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Still haven't found any helles bock or hefeweizen made in the US that are great. We still haven't gotten the subtlety down yet for these two beer types. Ayinger brewery is one of my favorite German Brewers and it's easy to get here.
Agree about Ayinger. And it's odd that no one in the US produces something like that.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Feb 13, 2014 - 12:37pm PT
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395 is still one of my favorite IPA's
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Feb 13, 2014 - 12:51pm PT
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I'm starting to get a taste for this - Unibroue Trois Pistoles - a little on the sweet side, but packs a punch.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Apr 10, 2014 - 12:36am PT
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Sorta on topic...
http://www.chicoer.com/news/ci_25533217/sierra-nevada-unveils-national-beer-camp?source=rss
CHICO >> Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. is challenging every U.S. craft brewery to a multi-weekend traveling beer festival this summer.
Calling it Beer Camp Across America, the event announced Wednesday would bring brewers and their fans together, much as Sierra Nevada has done with its annual beer camp here, according to a press release.
The national camp starts in Chico and concludes with the opening of Sierra Nevada's new North Carolina plant in August.
"We're about to open a second brewery in North Carolina, and while that's exciting for us, it's an even greater reason to celebrate the future of craft brewers everywhere," explained Ken Grossman, Sierra Nevada's founder. "We've watched and learned from each other for decades, and together we've seen tastes change and craft's momentum snowball. Beer Camp Across America is our way of reflecting on this — with thousands of brewers, fans and great beers. It should be pretty fun."
Starting in Chico, Beer Camp Across America features seven stops in cities with craft beer cultures, moving from west to east.
Here's the schedule:
• July 19: Northwest Edition, noon-5 p.m. at Sierra Nevada Hop Field in Chico.
• July 20: Southwest Edition, 1-6 p.m. at Embarcadero North in San Diego.
• July 25: Rocky Mountain Edition, 5-10 p.m. at Sculpture Park in Denver.
• July 27: Midwest Edition, noon-5 p.m. at Navy Pier in Chicago.
• Aug. 1: New England Edition, 5-10 p.m. at Thompson Point in Portland, Maine.
• Aug. 2: Mid-Atlantic Edition , noon-5 p.m.at Penn Treaty Park in Philadelphia.
• Aug. 3: Southeast Edition, 1-6 p.m. in Mills River, N.C.
Each festival will feature up to two beers per brewery, food vendors, and live music by the MarchFourth Marching Band spectacle. Tickets are on sale at www.SierraNevada.com/BeerCamp and are limited to 5,000 per venue. Tickets cost $65 for general admission, which includes a tasting glass and unlimited tastings (in most locations, see the website for full details). A designated driver ticket is available for $30. Ticket prices are exclusive of taxes and fees, which will vary according to location.
In conjunction with the festivals, Sierra Nevada has partnered with a dozen craft breweries it considers "exceptional" to create 12 beers for one mixed 12-pack, which will be available throughout the nation this summer.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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May 26, 2014 - 11:31pm PT
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Here's the schedule:
• July 19: Northwest Edition, noon-5 p.m. at Sierra Nevada Hop Field in Chico.
Uh... Wait a minute... Northwest edition of the beer camp is in California?
That just ain't right. The Northwest ends at Portland!
You could maybe pretend that Eugene is still in the Northwest, but you'd be stretching "Northwest" pretty hard. But California? That's just wrong.
But enough of that, here's more beer. Something I saw in the local beer store. Craft stout from Spain? Who knew? No one on the staff had tasted it yet, so I took a chance and am glad I did.
Quite bitter, hints of coffee. And not over-the-top strong at just 6.2% abv.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 27, 2014 - 12:03am PT
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Damn, that just plain looks good. Spent a lot of time in Spain BITD but
never saw nuthin darker than an ale. But that was way back when they still
were learning to play footie properly.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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May 27, 2014 - 11:18am PT
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It is good. Not for everyone, but those who like their stouts a bit on the gnarly side should definitely try to track down a bottle or two. Or a case, as it'll probably just get better in the cellar over the next couple of years.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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May 27, 2014 - 11:48am PT
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I actually read this thread and I could definitely follow Ghost around drinking beer for a while. Good taste in beer ya got Ghost!
In San Diego Beer land, Ballast Point has made the Sculpin IPA for a few years now. Great beer....but they have the seasonal habanero sculpin IPA out too. Tasty, but it's got a bit of a burn and if you don't like spicy, you probably won't want more than a sip of this.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 23, 2014 - 07:52am PT
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khanom,
It is a great spot isn't it ;-)
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 30, 2014 - 09:10pm PT
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This stuff's pretty good:
( the Maximus, that is. I haven't tried their Cappuccino Stout, but I'm sure it's also damn good )
The best beer today was the one I had with my dog, at the brewery.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Five or ten years ago, opening a small brewery might have led you to both commercial success and personal satisfaction.
Now? Not likely. Over the last few years new breweries have opened on every second block in every city and town on the Pacific coast with a population of more than three people and a dog. Some of them are chasing their dream, some are just trying to cash in on a trend, but almost all of them are going to be disappointed. Trailing-edge capitalism.
But last week Mari had a taste of a beer from some brewery she'd never heard of, and liked it so much she brought a growler home. I liked it just as much, and yesterday, driving home from Squamish to Seattle we stopped at the brewery in the little town of Arlington, about 40 miles north of Seattle.
We followed directions on the cellphone map, to this place
This is a brewery?
Wait. Look over there...
So we walked in, through the big truck door, and...
Sixteen taps -- all brewed on-site -- and a kitchen, too. We ordered a six-glass sampler, and Mari asked for a cobb salad.
The salad was good. Not great, but pretty good for a brewhouse in Nowhere, WA. The beer, on the other hand, was off-the-charts excellent. We took a random six samples, including styles neither of us is keen on, and every single one was superb.
And the view, from the very long and very narrow counter we parked ourselves at, was interesting.
They aren't bottling anything, and distribution is still limited to eight or ten pubs in the Seattle area. Big loss for everywhere else, because this is some of the best beer we've ever had -- led by their double IPA, which makes beers like Pliny the Elder seem like what you'd drink if you couldn't get the real thing.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Thanks for tracking that place down, Ghost.
I'll in that general area day-after-tomorrow, I'll have to check it out.
Next time you're up in Nowhere, WA, try Birdsview Brewery near Concrete on Hwy 20. The food's not so great, but you can sit outside and watch the eagles while enjoying a fine brew.
The PNW is definitely Beer Country! I don't know of a better region for beer in the U.S.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Next time you're up in Nowhere, WA, try Birdsview Brewery near Concrete on Hwy 20.
What's old is new again.
Chaz, you mentioned Birdsview in this very thread three years ago. And I replied:
We stopped in not long after they opened. When Bill found out that we brewed, he dragged us into the back and I think it was half an hour before we got back out to the dining room.
Nice people, and decent food and beer. Maybe not the best brewpub in the world, but worth stopping in if you happen to be in the neighborhood when you're hungry/thirsty.
Skookum Brewing in Arlington may not have better food (i.e. good, but not great), but the beer is on a whole other level.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Skookum Bump...
Speaking of which, a couple of their beers, including the double IPA, are on tap at a pub pretty close to your place (and close to Wayno, as well). Visit Tippe and Drague. 3315 Beacon Ave S, just south of where Beacon crosses 15th.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Which brewery let you visit with your pup, Chaz?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Ghost, I looked up that Spanish stuff with the frog name which turns out to be Catalan.
It is available at a zillion joints in New York, and Washington state, but you already knew that.
I'm bummed and, boy, are they gonna hear about it.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Apogee,
That was Lagunitas in Petaluma.
They didn't just let me bring the dog, I understood it was mandatory.
My first visit there a few years ago, I drove around until I found a spot in the shade to park, and left the dog in the truck. One of the parking lot attendants saw me walking toward the brewery without my dog, and told me to go back and get her, and take her in with me. I didn't feel like I had a choice!
The food menu at Lagunitas is kind of an afterthought, but they had a LIVE band playing in the afternoon. And the beer was really good.
Today, I hung out at Rouge Brewing right on the river in Astoria.
It was a good place to wait for favorable wind conditions ( which never materialized, I'm working double hard earning my KAP shots this trip ). The beertender handed me a sample of their smoky hoppy brew right when I sat down. I don't remember what it was called exactly, but it tasted like scotch.
I left with a bottle of this...
... which I'm going to crack tonight right after I get back from running the streets of Long Beach ( WA ).
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Sounds like my kinda brewery, Chaz.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Just washed down one of their IPA's from TJ's. I think my house is the happiest place on earth!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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It's the Happiest Place On Earth. Disneyland and Tijuana have nothing on this place.
Washington (honorarily including Portland) truly is the happiest place on earth for a beer lover. Maybe in a few years the center of the beer universe will shift, but right now...
And Chaz, for whatever it's worth, the Skookum Brewing website has an entire section devoted to dogs (http://www.skookumbrewing.com/Photos/tabid/236/AlbumID/674-6/Default.aspx);
Let us know how your visit turns out.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I've only traveled the West Coast, but if there's a better beer region in the U.S. than the Pacific Northwest, I haven't heard of it.
This is definitely Beer Country.
Little towns that don't merit a streetlight have a brewery - or two. And I've yet to visit a crappy one.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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And the pub scene blows the doors off of So Cal. There are soooo many great neighborhood pubs in the PNW...places where the locals frequent, eat good food, talk about their day & their job & their family & whatever...and slake it all with incredibly good beer.
Much as I'm dug into my local area, the PNW is verrrry enticing.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Aug 13, 2014 - 01:42pm PT
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mouse bring a few of these.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
East Coast US
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Aug 13, 2014 - 02:06pm PT
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I've been traveling a lot for business recently (in Chi-town right now) and what I've discovered is the Best.Beer.Ever. is the first beer I have after dealing with all the bullsh1t I have to deal with everyday on the road. I'm managing some engineers from a 3rd party right now, and they all suck. I'm fixing the problems their company committed to fixing and they just can't do it.
Supply chain pays for their incompetence, but gets my skill set. It's like paying for the meal, twice.
T-55 minutes and counting only because these losers will pack up and call it a day @ 5:00 pm CDT.
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splitclimber
climber
Sonoma County
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Aug 13, 2014 - 04:23pm PT
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i like the lagunitas love, chaz
for another petaluma brewery - see if you can get a pour of HenHouse Fresh Pot - it's a coffee infused saison. 7% and yummy.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Aug 13, 2014 - 04:38pm PT
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My fave IPA
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 20, 2014 - 10:53am PT
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The fence surrounding the beer garden at Port Townsend Brewing.
Have a hoppy day!
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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The Fall is beautiful cragging time out in Tieton Canyon west of Yakima (columnar basalt). The leaves are turning colors and the rattle snakes are slow. I haven't been out there for a couple years, but if there are still climbs easy enough for me, I will go. This is a tangential way of introducing an awesome cider that I tried tonight from Tieton Cider Works. I know this barely belongs on this thread, but it was really good, and gasp, it was their Cherry Cider. I had it on tap at Asgard Tavern (Odin Brewing, base of Stone Way Seattle). I might still defer to Canadian Okanogan extra dry Pear Cider, but this was: very dry, a little acidic and so flavorful.
http://www.tietonciderworks.com/tieton/ciders.html
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 15, 2014 - 06:27pm PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 15, 2014 - 08:48pm PT
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Dank, now there's a stroke of marketing genius!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 15, 2014 - 09:27pm PT
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Marketing aside, it's true.
I just harvested my little hop plantation today, and "dank" doesn't begin to describe it.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 15, 2014 - 09:36pm PT
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Dave, the hops kicked ass this year. After we harvested, my hand were sticky and dank and I took a nap afterwards. Dank.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Sep 15, 2014 - 09:48pm PT
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Home brew from wild dead head's family's private stash in Putney Vermont Her name was Katy Mc some thing I think McBride ? and her Dad was proud of that brew but that his girl brought me home was some thing he did not get used to!
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Da_Dweeb
climber
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Sep 16, 2014 - 02:24am PT
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I guarantee that the best beer ever will be the beer you make.
Give it a shot, homebrewing is cheap, easy, and produces FANTASTIC beer.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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When you think of places where the best beers are brewed, Post Falls, Idaho probably isn't high on your list. Or even on your list. Be honest: Have you even heard of Post Falls, ID?
Sounds like someone gave a name to the intersection of two country roads where there are two houses and the only gas station within a hundred miles.
I'd never heard of it, and didn't know that the beer I'm enjoying tonight was brewed there until I read the fine print on the label. I bought it on spec because I like strong Belgian ales, and like to try new beers. To be honest, I bought it mostly because it had a cool label, but wow...
So I'm going to score a couple more bottles to share with Grossman next weekend (if he'll only just answer my bloody email), and also offer a sip to Wayno, although his tastes generally run elsewhere. And I just might try one of the other eight or ten Belgian-style ales Selkirk Abbey brews.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Dec 23, 2014 - 10:56pm PT
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Not mine --just do driving job today - Costco run from Mammoth to Placerville and then Carson City
(think I saw a single car fatality outside of Gardnerville on the clock- may need psycho counseling).
Responsible for ratchet-strapping the contraband to da roof__I done good.
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overit
Trad climber
Portland
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Dec 24, 2014 - 06:16am PT
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Living in the PNW, I have a new favorite beer about every two weeks. Right now it's the Breakside brewery IPA, GABF gold-medal winner. Also the Deshutes seasonal "Chasing Freshies" is a hop lovers dream with a dangerous ABV!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Same over here,This one may have been made for me,Love Centennial hops.
Like a hoppy ESB.
Beer geek speak:I really like pale ales,IPA is sometimes way over the top,Esb 's on the other hand are somewhere between the Ipa's and pales,a truly great style, not always around much.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Inquiries upstream here for Maudite ale in the Bay Area. Not wholesale though, ChrisMac. Good source for other obscure beverages, especially wine.
They have singles @ 750ml for $9.99
Beltramo's Wines & Spirits
1540 El Camino Real
Menlo Park, CA 94025
(888) 710-9463 or (650) 325-8450
https://www.beltramos.com
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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After doing a bit of Christmas beer shopping I mentioned to Steve Grossman that I'd picked up a bottle that I really wanted to share with him. He said he'd be right over, and that he had a bottle he really wanted to share with me.
Turned out we'd both bought the same thing, thinking the other would like it. And we were both right!
Magic.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jan 23, 2015 - 03:22pm PT
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Might not be the best,but,it sure might be the best smelling.
Just bombed with finishing and dry hops.
3HB,New York hops.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jan 23, 2015 - 03:33pm PT
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and the Two roads , road to ruin and it's dark sister the route of all evil!all so all of the beers included are great!
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this just in
climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
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Jan 23, 2015 - 04:32pm PT
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My new favorite
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Heisenberg
Trad climber
RV, middle of Nowehere
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Jan 23, 2015 - 05:03pm PT
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Dragons Milk by New Holland Brewing
11%
best stout ever!!!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jan 23, 2015 - 08:36pm PT
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Love this stuff. Just brewed a replicate....hope I hit the mark!
If you get within a country mile of that mark, you'll be in heaven. And I'll be knocking on your door to talk about it.
Seriously. I love drinking and brewing quadruples. And that 9000 is about as good as it gets.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jan 26, 2015 - 02:07pm PT
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From the Granite state, Smutty Nose, Durty, this week was the first shipping of this Bock.
Nutty darker than most browns, and very good they also had an award winning "90 Minute" IPA!
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jan 26, 2015 - 04:28pm PT
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Good stuff
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rincon
Trad climber
Coarsegold
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Feb 15, 2015 - 08:36am PT
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South Gate Brewery is awesome!
Fish and Chips with a glass of Deadwood Porter...yummy.
This stuff's pretty good...
Drink local!
Did you notice? The Tamarack lager is on top of a Tamarack log...actually it's a lodgepole, but 'round here we call 'em Tameracks.
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Gearhead
Trad climber
Novato Ca
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Feb 15, 2015 - 08:57am PT
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Feb 15, 2015 - 08:57am PT
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Gnome..where'd you get that dirty bastard..? rj
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Feb 15, 2015 - 09:04am PT
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i am the coffin which receives
all of the dead universe.
every expired soul from
the beginning of time and beyond
fills me,
yet my bounds ever-accommodate more life shadows.
the spirits within me
they scoot aside to make room
for the inheritance ale
that is ours.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Saw this today in my pub.
Selected hops too fruity for my taste, but just the tap handle is enought to make me try one of their IPA's.
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briham89
Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
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SOOOOOOOOO GOOOODDDD!!!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Lit into a sixer of Trumer Pils (from Berserkley) this weekend. Being 1/4 Bohemian I am
genetically disposed to a gud pils and this is a very gud pils.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 10, 2015 - 11:44am PT
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rj,
My main stores are Trader Joes where all the Beer Is warm;(
or Whole foods, cold and willing break racks if i buy two or three beers.
The college town one town away has stores with vast beer caves that are the chill spot on humid August afternoons. They have tastings!!
I missed the explosion in craft beer,(dry for decades) and am trying to catch up on whats what;+P. . . . having fun one great beer after another!
sorry i noticed this just now. and then misread it,
I added a post with the Dirty Bastard Scotch ale, and a link.
All Top Shelf
The second batch of Smutty Nose Durty just hit last Week, this time with a 'Boggin' , splashing thru the mud, Jeep, front axel showing. Another cool shot on the bottle of a great beer.
It is a beer that I think Trader Joes carries, The Brewery is on the Coast Of New Hampshire.
They have remained 'small' and put out fine brews.
[url="http://https://smuttynose.com"]http://https://smuttynose.com[/url]
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2015 - 11:54am PT
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For such a small state, NH sure puts out a lot of great brews.
Of course I'm partial, seeing as how I live there.
If anyone is ever in New London, NH, the Flying Goose Brewery is not to be missed. Get a growler and thank me later.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Mar 10, 2015 - 02:22pm PT
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^^^^^^ In me and the wife's short week in NH, we noticed the same thing; Excellent brewerys! When we travel, we support the "local" businesses if at all possible. What the heck. And we were not dissappointed. To be honest, the beers downed at the pubs... I don't remember the brewery names. But I enjoyed the sixer of this stuff I picked up for the stay at the cabin.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2015 - 02:41pm PT
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Ha! My little bro and I used to joke that the two old guys on the label will be us, acting curmudgeonly, when we grow old.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 10, 2015 - 04:25pm PT
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Rotting J.
The Dirty Bastard Scotch Ale Is from Founders Brewers.
http://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/
DIRTY BASTARD
So good it’s almost wrong.
Dark ruby in color and brewed with seven varieties of imported malts.
Complex in finish, with hints of smoke and peat, paired with a malty richness.
Combined with a right hook of hop power to give it the bad attitude,
that a beer named Dirty Bastard has to live up to.
AT
ABV: 8.5%
IBUs: 50
It Ain’t for the wee lads.
Availability: Year-round
2010 - WBC Silver Medal Winner
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lars johansen
Trad climber
West Marin, CA
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Mar 10, 2015 - 05:43pm PT
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Not THE best but worth an honorable mention. I know I mentioned this previously but didn't include a picture.
lars
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Steve's sister
Social climber
Las Vegas, NV
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Mar 12, 2015 - 07:51am PT
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The beer I brew with my Dad.
Not because the beer is so great, but because my Dad is!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Apr 23, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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The best beer ever? Gotta be whatever beer I have in Seattle when I get back from Asia.
Twice in the last two months I've spent a week there -- Shanghai in March, and Hong Kong this month. I love it there. I really do. Because my travels are work-related I am able to stay in hotels that are so far beyond anything in North America that there's simply no comparison. I eat food and drink wine that I'd never be able to afford back here.
But damn! After a few days over there, I'd sell my soul for a real beer.
So when y'all are arguing about which beer in San Diego is better than which beer in Portland or Seattle (or Post Falls, Idaho), realize that you're wanking on and on about the difference between the 99th and 100th percentile.
When it comes to beer, we have it so good here that when I get out of the cab from the airport, and walk into my house, open the fridge, and pour myself a beer, it's pretty much like I've just died and gone to heaven.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Apr 23, 2015 - 07:45pm PT
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True Ghost...unless you've been in Belgium(though Stella is Belgian Budweiser, and the hipsters are deluding themselves if they think it's worth it).
Currently enjoying a large glass of Ovila. The Sierra Nevada trappist style quad. Not quite to level of Rochefort 10 or Westveletern. But damn good.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Apr 23, 2015 - 07:52pm PT
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True Ghost...unless you've been in Belgium
Well, last time I checked, Belgium wasn't in Asia.
But just so you know I'm not disagreeing with your general sentiment, the beer I cracked when I got home this afternoon was a Piraat, from Brouwerij Van Steenberge, which is, yes, in Belgium.
But even Belgium isn't Cascadia. We can get pretty much anything brewed in Belgium here, but the Belgians can't get a tenth of what we can. We live in beer heaven, and I am grateful.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Apr 23, 2015 - 08:58pm PT
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Gnome...thanks...I happened to be at founders in grand rapids on harvest day...4 hundred people buzzing on beer..
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Coming home from a long weekend in Squamish we stopped for an early dinner and beer at the Skookum Brewery in Arlington (about 40 miles N of Seattle). I've mentioned it before on this thread, but want to give it another boost.
Good beer, good food (the Cowboy Caviar is unbelievable), and good people. I spent half my time there being dragged around the business end by Ron, the owner, and came away with a lot of respect. Not just for the quality of the beer, but for his approach to starting and running a brewpub.
It's just five minutes off I-5, and well worth the detour.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 12, 2015 - 05:58pm PT
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I can't believe nobody on this site has thought about beer in the last six months. Well, okay, I know some of you have thought about it, but nobody has posted.Time to put that right -- with a question:
What could be better than having Jesus on tap?
EVEN MORE JESUS!
Yes. Popped in to my local bottle shop/taproom yesterday, and thought I'd see if there was a good stout to munch on while I picked out a few bottles to take home. Turned out they had one of the great ones on tap: Evil Twin Brewing's "Even More Jesus."
At about $20 a bottle, it's a once-a-year treat for me, but it's one of the best stouts I've ever had, so springing for a small glass was easy.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread....mmmm, beer...
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Heisenberg
Trad climber
RV, middle of Nowehere
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If you can find it try Stone Brewing Co Xocoveza Mocha Stout.
Seasonal brew.
Also Dog Fish Heads World Wide Stout. 18% ABV. This is a sipping beer and suppose to get better with age (keeping it up to 5 years)
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BrassNuts
Trad climber
Save your a_s, reach for the brass...
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A few of my faves
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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I’m with PotatoHead and Ghost about Gulden Draak 9000. Sinful.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Apr 10, 2016 - 09:16pm PT
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Spring is here, time to be working in the yard in the evening. But at sunset, once the gardening tools are cleaned and stowed, it is time to sit on the deck with an imperial IPA
One of the best I've ever brewed.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 10, 2016 - 09:44pm PT
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Getting tuned up for the push through the Vosges and the Ardennes (I know
I'm late to the party) so beer hasn't been top priority although did come
across a nice porter from Mammoth Brew Co and a fine pils from Lagunitas.
Of course, honing one's pils appreciation will hold me in good stead after
the Rhine is won and R&R is taken in the Bernese Oberland.
Kleine Scheidegg better look out - they've had it far too easy since Clint left.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Apr 14, 2016 - 07:57pm PT
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Keeping with the "sunset on the deck" theme: Dinner tonight was grilled halibut (garnished with grilled scallions) with a side of posole baked with pickled hot peppers, and a cob of roasted corn.
I remembered that I still had a few bottles of a really wonderful tripel in the cellar. Brewed this time last year.
And the sun was setting, and the deck was calling...
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Apr 14, 2016 - 08:52pm PT
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Chugach
Trad climber
Vermont
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Apr 15, 2016 - 06:48am PT
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14th Star, Tribute. Vermont continues to produce the best beers in the nation.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Today, the best beer ever is the one I had in the garden with me as I was scrambling to get the pepper starts into pots. Hot afternoon, cold beer. And tomorrow morning we're off to Smith Rocks. (and scroll down past the picture for a... hmmmm... very Australian... beer commercial.
And here's the Australian version of "The most interesting man in the world." The key word here is "Australian", which translates to "not safe for work."
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Aug 14, 2016 - 08:48pm PT
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Work on the archaeological site that we call the basement progressed this weekend with the hauling of a load of... well one man's junk may be another man's treasure, but this sure looked like junk, so we hauled it to the transfer station (a massive structure that comes between individual loads of junk and whatever the city does with all that junk.
On the way home we stopped at Big Al's brewery and taproom.
Now the deal with Big Al is that while he brews the usual line-up of small-brewery staples (a pale, a blonde, an IPA, a porter, etc), all of which are okay but not outstanding, he also brews what he likes, which is beers brewed with wild yeasts and bacteria. Not to everyone's taste, but I love them (and brew them myself).
He names them after the month they were brewed, and calls the whole lot his "Time Capsule" series. The first ones I saw, and tried, were from mid-2014, so imagine my surprise when the chalkboard at the end of the bar said they were offering "August 2008" -- the first time capsule ever.
Once the guy behind the bar found that not only did we brew, but that we actually loved sours, he was dragging us back into the brewery...
On the approach
Here's the bar. Pretty small (although there's plenty of seating outside). Seahawks game on the tube.
And the Time Capsule label and story
Forget stainless steel -- wooden barrels is the new thing
There's steel, too. And plastic buckets.
Worth a visit if you're fond of the wild and sour side of beer.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Nov 18, 2016 - 07:31pm PT
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It's time to celebrate!
Chris Mac came back from wherever he was off climbing and found his website contaminated with poison, and decided to clean house.
The contamination was spread by a very few as#@&%es, losers with no lives, whose only satisfaction was to scream at a few other losers whose only difference from themselves was in choosing who -- Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump -- was an even bigger as#@&%e than they were.
So yes, let's celebrate! With threads about climbing, beer, boobs, food, photos... anything other than three as#@&%es on one team screaming at three as#@&%es on the other team.
So, here's a toast. A dark and dank toast. A toast that reminds me of when Grandpa decided enough years had passed to drain the crankcase on the old tractor...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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May 20, 2017 - 07:53pm PT
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Back in Squamish after a year's absence. Wonder of wonders, on a beautiful holiday weekend, we had the entire base of the Grand Wall almost to ourselves. Mari dragged me up some good stuff, and then we watched the kite-boarders for a while and then...
Time for a beer.
We'd heard there were a couple of new breweries in town, and managed to find one of them. We didn't want to get wasted (lots of beer in the fridge at home), but based on the two beers we sampled, Backcountry Brewing is as good as anything, anywhere. And about ten times better than what is on offer at Howe Sound Brewing.
Of course, we wound up in the back end with one of the owners, and that's the only picture I have, but if you are ever up in Squampton, and feeling thirsty, after a day on the rock (or on the water) this is the place to go.
We'd picked up food to take home to cook, so didn't eat there, but the menu looked really good.
Website is https://www.backcountrybrewing.com/
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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May 20, 2017 - 08:12pm PT
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Nice addition to a world class climbing area where Duffy's was the best thing on tap for a long time.
Had a Double Dry Hopped Pussy Wagon this evening that was exquisite. A friend was drinking in Portland and brought back a crowler of this fine and rather hard to get offering from Brash Brewing in Texas. Followed it up with a truly unique Lost Abbey Madonna and Child ale aged in tequila barrels and a shot of Clase Axul. Still rolling...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Found this gem in a TESCO (think Safeway) in Caernarfon, Wales, although it is from Scotland. Really good!
Had a fabulous live beer called 'Gem' hand pumped in The Crown in Bathford, Olde Blighty. It is made a few miles away in Bath proper. Pretty surprised to see this lamp in said pub.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 17, 2017 - 07:07pm PT
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Did I kill this thread?
Sent The Wife beer shopping with explicit instructions which, of course, were ignored. OK, not exactly ignored, the ‘sommelier’ said they were out of my expressed desires, so to speak. Anyway, he suggested this. I might go give him a hug! It’s from Seattle, of all places!
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Dec 17, 2017 - 07:43pm PT
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Dragon's Tooth, just was askin' after that!
Now thats funny its $18.99 a 4-pack ' here at "wholepaycheck, before tax & deposit (warm) .
I gnow if you have to ask. . .
but for my choice of inebriation, When its cold n' snowy so A stout is called for, I find it hard to pay more than $3 a beer.
An Amazing thing to me is the number of breweries. I like this local one The "Express way"(driver's window) is a Coffee stout, good not the best, Seems full bodied enough.
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