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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Oct 16, 2014 - 10:01am PT
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Or "in" the present? (then)
In tune with the absolute?
Or fallen?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Oct 16, 2014 - 10:09am PT
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Actually, I just criticized one individual's behavior.
That's not bigotry.
We call this magic English.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2014 - 10:47am PT
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Not wanting to drag something from the other thread that was mercifully put out of it's misery, but the mind is full of wonderful things. Like this:
Said the man:
"And this has been standing here for centuries. The premier work of man perhaps in the whole Western world. And it’s without a signature: Chartres.
A celebration to God’s glory, and dignity of man. All that’s left, most artists seem to feel these days, is man. Naked, poor. There aren’t any celebrations.
Ours, they keep telling us, is a universe which is disposable. You know, it might be just this one anonymous glory, of all things, this rich stone forest, this epic chant, this gaiety, this grand, choiring shout of affirmation, which we choose when all our cities are dust, to stand intact, to mark where we have been, to testify to what we had in us to accomplish.
Our works in stone, in paint, in print, are spared - some of them for a few decades or a millennium or two. But everything must finally fall in war, or wear away into the ultimate and universal ash. The triumphs and the frauds, the treasures and the fakes. A fact of life. We’re going to die.
'Be of good heart,' cry the dead artists out of the living past. Our songs will all be silenced — but what of it? Go on singing."
JL
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Oct 16, 2014 - 11:01am PT
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"Im Abendrot"
[Click to View YouTube Video]
We have gone through sorrow and joy
hand in hand;
Now we can rest from our wandering
above the quiet land.
Around us, the valleys bow;
the air is growing darker.
Just two skylarks soar upwards
dreamily into the fragrant air.
Come close to me, and let them flutter.
Soon it will be time for sleep.
Let us not lose our way
in this solitude.
O vast, tranquil peace,
so deep at sunset!
How weary we are of wandering
Is this perhaps death?
"A magnificent musical sunset, glorious and noble thoughts as the shadows descend on life. Courage when all is falling apart before death.The clouds of the Western sky will darken in all-extinguishing night; but the soul sings,for it must."
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 16, 2014 - 11:45am PT
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Marlow: " . . . the soul sings,for it must."
A good line, Marlow.
And good on you and John for bringing a little civility and awe to the party. Cheers.
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Oct 16, 2014 - 01:56pm PT
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since no one commented, did no one bother to read it... (Tom)
I did, Tom, but the Institute for Noetic Science is a little suspicious. However, this article is suitable for this wide-ranging thread.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Oct 16, 2014 - 06:33pm PT
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Death disappoints no man.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Oct 16, 2014 - 07:26pm PT
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Ce n'est pas une cheeseburger
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Oct 16, 2014 - 08:35pm PT
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Wimpy is Nice!!!!!!!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 16, 2014 - 11:50pm PT
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Sketch apparently "knows" Tvash is a "liberal"
after all of Tvash's posts, I never heard him describe himself as such, did I miss something?
was Tvash's political affectations even relevant to the discussion 'What is "Mind"?'
it couldn't be that Sketch is acting on some stereotype he has in his mind regarding "liberals"?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Oct 17, 2014 - 04:29am PT
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one of the strengths of liberal democracy is the freedom to complain about it
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Oct 17, 2014 - 10:06am PT
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What is (Political) Mind?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Oct 17, 2014 - 10:53am PT
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Peck at the red button if you want fries or the blue button if you want quinoa.
Peck peeeck peeeck
Peeeck
Peck peeeck peeeck peck
Peck peck peeeck peeeck peck peck
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Oct 19, 2014 - 06:13pm PT
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Dr. F's thread may be gone, but this one remains. I don't see why JL said he intends to start a "reality" thread. The poetic Weege seems to have begun one.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Oct 19, 2014 - 07:44pm PT
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I'm looking for the realist reality thread I can find.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Oct 19, 2014 - 08:06pm PT
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The poetic Weege seems to have begun one.
Yea! The, "Reality is just an illusion brought on by the shortage of beer" thread?
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Oct 20, 2014 - 07:33am PT
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The mind is the baggage.
The being is the author of reality.
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Oct 20, 2014 - 04:29pm PT
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^^^^^^ Or maybe the other way around!
;>)
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 20, 2014 - 08:55pm PT
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At times there is a lull in this thread. People’s posts just mill about aimlessly, trying to find ,and then play, a riff off of another person’s quip.
Reminds me a bit of jazz improvisation. A rhythm needs to be established, along with a couple of catchy movements to establish direction and lyric. But no one person can do it alone. It needs another to interact with to create an entrainment. Many things must come together—but no one can say what those things are exactly or how to establish them.
What seems to accomplish this, at least in jazz according to many, is that the unconscious needs an open conduit to get out and express itself. But the discursive mind usually gets in the way—unless there is no intention and nothing serious meant by it (play). So many things look like this to me. Climbing, writing, teaching, working, riding, among others.
Want to write something creative? Focus only on the physical activity, do it carefully, slowly, with great care. Form script letters deliberately, slowly with paper and pen; or type while only focusing on fingers hitting the keys--any set of keys. Words will emerge without knowing where they came from.
A person’s head just gets in the way most of the time. Almost completely unnecessary.
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MH2
climber
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Oct 20, 2014 - 09:07pm PT
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It's stranger than that, MikeL.
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