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Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 12, 2011 - 05:09pm PT
Edit: sorry about the typo in the title. OOoooppssiiieee.



Coming up to the 10th Anniversary, it comes as no surprise to me and many others throughout the World who have really looked deep into the truth of 9-11-01, regardless of how painful it is:

LIHOP at a minimum, MIHOP at a maximum. I think some aspects of 9-11-01 were LIHOP, and then many aspects were MIHOP. It was both. So I think we really have LMIHOP.

Just look at what has happened since 9-11-01. Who has benefited? Who has gained? The Military-Industrial-Spy-Intelligence-Complex. Corporations. Bankers. Those who would want to bring about the NWO with authoritarian governments run rampant, and the purposeful weakening or potential loss of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

The severely weakened economy and the lose of many jobs and the attack on the American Middle Class and everything right, noble, and that purports to be about treating others with respect, and treating others with dignity, and treating others as you would want to be treated, "The Golden Rule" as Christ taught us, all of this works to the same very dark and sinister means, motive, and opportunity.




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x620176

An Explosive New 9/11 Charge (CIA tried to recruit 9/11 hijackers—then covered it up-Richard Clarke)

Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 07:28 PM by kpete
Source: The Daily Beast

An Explosive New 9/11 Charge
In a new documentary, former national-security aide Richard Clarke suggests the CIA tried to recruit 9/11 hijackers—then covered it up. Philip Shenon on George Tenet’s denial.
Aug 11, 2011 8:47 AM EDT


With the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks only a month away, former CIA Director George Tenet and two former top aides are fighting back hard against allegations that they engaged in a massive cover-up in 2000 and 2001 to hide intelligence from the White House and the FBI that might have prevented the attacks.

The source of the explosive, unproved allegations is a man who once considered Tenet a close friend: former White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, who makes the charges against Tenet and the CIA in an interview for a radio documentary timed to the 10th anniversary next month. Portions of the Clarke interview were made available to The Daily Beast by the producers of the documentary.

In the interview for the documentary, Clarke offers an incendiary theory that, if true, would rewrite the history of the 9/11 attacks, suggesting that the CIA intentionally withheld information from the White House and FBI in 2000 and 2001 that two Saudi-born terrorists were on U.S. soil—terrorists who went on to become suicide hijackers on 9/11.

............

Clarke says it is fair to conclude “there was a high-level decision in the CIA ordering people not to share information.” Asked who would have made the order, Clarke replies, “I would think it would have been made by the director,” referring to Tenet



Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/11/september-11th-anniversary-richard-clarke-s-explosive-cia-cover-up-charge.html

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In a written response prepared last week in advance of the broadcast, Tenet says that Clarke, who famously went public in 2004 to blow the whistle on the Bush White House over intelligence failures before 9/11, has “suddenly invented baseless allegations which are belied by the record and unworthy of serious consideration.”
http://www.scribd.com/doc/62083444/Joint-Statement




Weird. This article from Vanity Fair
reference the same two guys but implies they received Saudi assistance. See p. 7.

They were Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, both Saudis, both experienced jihadis—holy warriors—though still in their mid-20s. They entered the country through Los Angeles International Airport as early as January 15, 2000, with scant knowledge of the English language and zero experience of life in the West. The 9/11-commission report declared it “unlikely” that the pair “would have come to the United States without arranging to receive assistance from one or more individuals informed in advance of their arrival.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/08/9-11-2011-201108#


The CIA insisted to the 9/11 Commission and other government investigations that the agency never knew the exact whereabouts of the two hijackers, Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar, inside the U.S.—let alone try to recruit them as spies.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/11/september-11th-anniversary-richard-clarke-s-explosive-cia-cover-up-charge.html
Gene

climber
Aug 12, 2011 - 05:33pm PT
LIHOP at a minimum, MIHOP at a maximum.


Works for me.

Nice pun BTW in your title.
apogee

climber
Aug 12, 2011 - 07:11pm PT
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 12, 2011 - 07:50pm PT
Mmmmm Ihop...MMmmmm, is Clarke buying? I'm down.
Gene

climber
Aug 12, 2011 - 07:53pm PT
Quiz.... No postcards will be awarded. Sorry.

What restuarant do one legged waitresses prefer to work in?

What is the name of the chain's best waitress?

What is the name of the chain's best waitress's Asian sister?

The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Aug 12, 2011 - 07:59pm PT
Come on Irene.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 12, 2011 - 09:27pm PT
So you "Lame Ducks" have anything to say of substance against Richard Clarke's claim or not?

Typical.

All we ever get from you guys is ad hominem meaningless and juvenile attacks.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 12, 2011 - 09:37pm PT
ad hominem meaningless and juvenile attacks

All we ever get from you is redundancy.


Everybody knows the truth; 9-11 was orchestrated by the martians.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Aug 12, 2011 - 09:40pm PT
From the beginning of the Aug 2011 Vanity Fair article:

The Kingdom and the Towers

Was there a foreign government behind the 9/11 attacks? A decade later, Americans still haven’t been given the whole story, while a key 28-page section of Congress’s Joint Inquiry report remains censored. Gathering years of leaks and leads, in an adaptation from their new book, Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan examine the connections between Saudi Arabia and the hijackers (15 of whom were Saudi), the Bush White House’s decision to ignore or bury evidence, and the frustration of lead investigators—including 9/11-commission staffers, counterterrorism officials, and senators on both sides of the aisle.

If you buy the official story, then I have a bridge I'd like to rent to you.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Aug 12, 2011 - 09:46pm PT
I'll be flying out of National Airport on 9/11/2011 - wish me luck!
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 12, 2011 - 10:46pm PT
You aren't talking about a no name nobody. You are talking about someone who was there, and who should know something about it. We have to listen to him and check it out. This was his job to do this and he is being ignored. Why is that? You can't dismiss it with a wave of the hand or mindless attacks.

But I know human nature and conspiracies often go that way. Dismiss it and ignore it.

Go back to sleep. Nothing to see here.

It's always how it goes down by TPTB.

Lol.




Richard clarke:



former national-security aide Richard Clarke


The source of the explosive, unproved allegations is a man who once considered Tenet a close friend: former White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, who makes the charges against Tenet and the CIA in an interview for a radio documentary timed to the 10th anniversary next month.


Clarke says it is fair to conclude “there was a high-level decision in the CIA ordering people not to share information.” Asked who would have made the order, Clarke replies, “I would think it would have been made by the director,” referring to Tenet
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 12, 2011 - 11:01pm PT

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x608735


Richard Clarke suspects CIA coverup on 9/11 hijackers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8lRlc0SLAg



Clip from new documentary: Who Is Rich Blee - via Secrecy Kills
http://www.youtube.com/user/FF4Films#p/u/3/ndXhnl-g6To


Clarke airs suspicions over Sept. 11 intel failures - Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-washington/post/clarke-airs-suspicions-over-sept-11-intelligence-failures/2011/08/11/gIQAx33K9I_blog.html


The documentary, called “Who is Richard Blee?” and produced by FF4 Films, is timed to the 10th anniversary of the attacks. The Clarke interview is scheduled to appear for the first time Thursday night, on a PBS station in Colorado and on the Web site SecrecyKills.com. News of it was first reported in The Daily Beast.

Clarke says he now suspects the CIA hid its knowledge that two of the Sept. 11 hijackers had entered the United States because the agency had tried – and failed – to recruit them as informants.

Clarke acknowledged his theory is not based on any evidence in a forthcoming documentary, according to a copy of the interview provided to the Post. But he says it is “the only conceivable reason that I’ve been able to come up with” to explain why the CIA failed to inform the FBI or the White House of the would-be hijackers presence.

Clarke goes on to say he believes “there was a high-level decision in the CIA ordering people not to share information,” all but pointing a finger at the CIA Director at the time, George J. Tenet.


Related:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4957703
apogee

climber
Aug 12, 2011 - 11:08pm PT
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 12, 2011 - 11:15pm PT
Dick Clark hasn't come up with a winner since American Bandstand.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 12, 2011 - 11:32pm PT
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Aug 13, 2011 - 01:15am PT
paging off-topic marmot...
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 13, 2011 - 01:34am PT
It would be more consistent with the Bush/Cheney et al modus operandi for them to be wilfully blind to a threat, but be careful to ensure that there was little to tie them directly to the negligence. Which seems to be pretty much what happened. They'd been warned that al Qaeda posed a high threat to the US, and that some sort of repeat attack was imminent. They disregarded the warnings - why wouldn't you, when you and your owners would probably benefit from an attack, that would allow you to further other agendas?

They probably didn't know exactly what would happen, or how dramatic it would be - that was a big plus. But they knew, or ought to have known, that something serious was likely to happen. I'm no fan of silly conspiracy theories, and perhaps they didn't actually know, in which case the question is whether they should have known.

Edit: Yes, this is of course just mental speculations.
drunkenmaster

Social climber
santa rosa
Aug 13, 2011 - 01:46am PT
wait a minute - if the cia knew about the hijackers isnt that just a small part of the overall huge conspiracy that could/might/possibly have been behind this. i mean from all the conspiracy theories about this ive seen/heard it would be obvious that the cia would have known and a small part of the big scheme and barley worth mentioning. wasnt it either the cia or fbi that didnt show up for work at the office they had in the twin towers the day of the attack anyways? i dont trust anyone/anything but i want to and try to trust everyone/everything.
drunkenmaster

Social climber
santa rosa
Aug 13, 2011 - 01:47am PT
did i say barley?? not barely. its time to drink :)
WBraun

climber
Aug 13, 2011 - 01:52am PT
Which is pretty much what happened.


You weren't even there so you have no clue what happened and are just spreading disinformation according to the garbage you've been fed.

Obviously most of you are sheep that believe everything you read from the wolves disguised as truth ......
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