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Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 25, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
Climbing the Mountain: The Scientific Biography of Julian Schwinger
Jagdish Mehra, Kimball A. Milton
Gregory Crouch

Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
Aug 26, 2013 - 12:28am PT
You should definitely get it on the list, TGT, it's a great book. What's your source for Best's bomb load, because quoting Shattered Sword, p242, "His [Best's] 1,000-lb payload sliced through the flight deck and exploded in the upper hangar..."

Has the Midway Roundtable published an errata on that subject?

Rereading the chapter, it seems like there was a mix of bombloads on the various Dauntlesses... 500 and 100 pounders on some aircraft, 1,000 pounders on others...
Gregory Crouch

Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
Aug 26, 2013 - 12:30am PT
And right now, I'm reading Richard Rhodes The Making of the Atomic Bomb, which is fascinating. Recommended to me by astronomer and climber and fellow former CIC of the Cadet Mountaineering Club Scott Ransom...

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 9, 2013 - 02:10pm PT
Just finished 'The Yiddish policeman's union' -Michael Chabon
An alternate premise book where Israel failed and 'Zion' was formed around Sitka Alaska.but not for long. In a month it goes to Alaskan/native american Sovereignty. In this setting a hard boiled alcoholic police detective whose boss is his ex wife has to solve an execution murder of a junkie chessmaster who might be the next messiah.
Raymond chandler goes jewish DaVinci code via post cyberpunk Gibson....

Social climber
Sep 9, 2013 - 02:30pm PT
I like Chabon's books.

I just finished All Quiet On The Western Front and am starting The Woman Who Lost Her Soul by Bob Shacochis.

I'd never heard of Shacochis but the book gets some solid reviews so I'll give him a go.

Sport climber
Sep 9, 2013 - 03:07pm PT
Pierre Hadot: The Inner Citadel. The Meditations Of Marcus Aurelius.
The Inner Citadel. The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius.
The Inner Citadel. The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius.
Credit: Marlow
Pierre Hadot - The Inner Citadel - The Meditations Of Marcus Aurelius
Pierre Hadot - The Inner Citadel - The Meditations Of Marcus Aurelius
Credit: Marlow
Pierre Hadot
Pierre Hadot

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 9, 2013 - 03:19pm PT
What's your source for Best's bomb load,

Best himself.

Just out of coincidence a couple of days before your post I'd seen a fairly old documentary on Midway with some interviews of Best interspersed throughout.

The gist of his statement was that when they left the briefing room and got to the flight deck they were a bit irritated when they saw their planes only loaded with only one 500lb bomb and two 100lb incendiaries.

In a later snipet he tells of hitting the carrier "right in the meatball insignia on the forward flight deck" and the two incendiaries hitting amidships.

I believe there was a footnote on the trailer that he died shortly after production.


Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Sep 9, 2013 - 03:23pm PT

Currently enjoying the Watchmen. Cold War and comics....

Nice break from 'my normal reading list'.


Gregory Crouch

Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
Sep 9, 2013 - 03:27pm PT
TGT, I think you're going to have to read Shattered Sword, because they make a huge case for Akagi being hit by only one bomb, despite what has appeared in American sources (most of which claim many hits).

Although I can't account for the documentary, that sounds pretty convincing.

But I bet they have. You should check out "the Midway Roundtable" if you haven't already.
Gregory Crouch

Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
Sep 9, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
Also, just finished Sebastian Junger's War, which I found pretty riveting.

Kept me awake into the wee hours Sunday morning.

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 9, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
Best's claim in the interview was that he was the only one that hit the Akagi and he thought that what sunk it was not the 500lb bomb, but the incendiaries burned thru the decks into the torpedo magazine.

That only makes sense if they were a thermite (magnesium)type incendiary. The only one I can find are the M50A1 that were dropped as a 100lb cluster They were introduced in the spring of 42. Doolittle did use them for his raid but they were specially packaged. So it's an open question if they were even available in the theater.

The earlier 100 lb incendiary was a thin cased repurposed chemical warfare early version in napalm or WP and wouldn't have been effective at all on a carrier except against exposed planes and personnel on the deck.

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Sep 9, 2013 - 07:21pm PT
Brave Men. Ernie Pyle

Social climber
Sep 9, 2013 - 07:26pm PT
hey there say, all...

remember to try out my novels and short stories that are based on them...


jake smith ranch series...

just do a search, with neebeehsaaookway, or the jake smith ranch series and it should show up...

am soon going to get the isbn numbers so you won't have to order online from should be able to order from bookstores then...

Sep 9, 2013 - 07:27pm PT
A little light reading:

I found it rather pedestrian, so I am switching off occasionally with another breezy jaunt:


Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 23, 2013 - 10:30am PT
Double Indemnity

Westminster Colorado
Sep 23, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
Love King or hate him you must admit that you are curious what has become of little Danny Torrance over the last 35 years. Doctor Sleep by Stephen King. The sequel to the Shining.
Gregory Crouch

Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
Sep 23, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
A little sci-fi deviation: Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained by Peter Hamilton.

Loving them.

Recommended to my son and me by our own Tom Lambert.

Trad climber
Sep 23, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
Happy Banned Book Week! Long live controversial fiction. Here's the list of most challenged classics:

1. The Great Gatsby, by F. Scott Fitzgerald
2. The Catcher in the Rye, by J.D. Salinger
3. The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck
4. To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee
5. The Color Purple, by Alice Walker
6. Ulysses, by James Joyce
7. Beloved, by Toni Morrison
8. The Lord of the Flies, by William Golding
9. 1984, by George Orwell

11. Lolita, by Vladmir Nabokov
12. Of Mice and Men, by John Steinbeck

15. Catch-22, by Joseph Heller
16. Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley
17. Animal Farm, by George Orwell
18. The Sun Also Rises, by Ernest Hemingway
19. As I Lay Dying, by William Faulkner
20. A Farewell to Arms, by Ernest Hemingway

23. Their Eyes Were Watching God, by Zora Neale Hurston
24. Invisible Man, by Ralph Ellison
25. Song of Solomon, by Toni Morrison
26. Gone with the Wind, by Margaret Mitchell
27. Native Son, by Richard Wright
28. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, by Ken Kesey
29. Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut
30. For Whom the Bell Tolls, by Ernest Hemingway

33. The Call of the Wild, by Jack London

36. Go Tell it on the Mountain, by James Baldwin

38. All the King's Men, by Robert Penn Warren

40. The Lord of the Rings, by J.R.R. Tolkien

45. The Jungle, by Upton Sinclair

48. Lady Chatterley's Lover, by D.H. Lawrence
49. A Clockwork Orange, by Anthony Burgess
50. The Awakening, by Kate Chopin

53. In Cold Blood, by Truman Capote

55. The Satanic Verses, by Salman Rushdie

57. Sophie's Choice, by William Styron

64. Sons and Lovers, by D.H. Lawrence

66. Cat's Cradle, by Kurt Vonnegut
67. A Separate Peace, by John Knowles

73. Naked Lunch, by William S. Burroughs
74. Brideshead Revisited, by Evelyn Waugh
75. Women in Love, by D.H. Lawrence

80. The Naked and the Dead, by Norman Mailer

84. Tropic of Cancer, by Henry Miller

88. An American Tragedy, by Theodore Dreiser

97. Rabbit, Run, by John Updike
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 23, 2013 - 03:09pm PT
Ten of the Traveling Band books.

In Mr. Whipple's famous critical article about Kerouac, he described his world as 'anything but charming.'

But there is a charm about the road, starting with Charley and his travels with Steinbedeck, which didn't make the list, but then here it be, golly gee.

Cannery Row
and Sweet Thursday
and Of Mice and Men by Steinbedeck
On the Road by T.P. “Jack” Kerouac
Joe Hill by Wallace Stegner
The Adventures of Hucklebery Finn by Mark Twain
[“All American literature comes out of Huckleberry Finn.“--Hemingway]
The Further Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Greg Matthews
The Incredible Journey by Sheila Bumford
The Longest Walk by Slawomir Rawicz
The Journeyer by Gary Jennings
The Fool's Progress by Edward Abbey

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Sep 23, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
97. Rabbit, Run, by John Updike

Read that a couple years ago. Had never heard of it, nor read any Updike before that. Surprised it would make that list as it doesn't seem to be widely known. All the others I've at least heard of, if not read.

What happened to your list though? Lots of missing numbers. I've read about 2/3 of those.
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