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nutjob

Sport climber
Almost to Hollywood, Baby!
Jul 1, 2013 - 02:05pm PT
This caught my eye in a library sale. Exploring it a few pages at a time:



I started to say "savouring" it a few pages at a time, but that doesn't quite fit. Savour implies a sort of basic pleasure, and I can't say this book is always pleasurable. Insightful. Compelling. But not always pleasurable. It just feels real and honest, and gives me access to a set of experiences that divine grace spared me from directly acquiring.

There is an especially poignant and insightful story about his experience before shipping off to Viet Nam, a crisis of conscience while standing at a fork in the road of life. He sums up:
"I was a coward. I went to the war."
Gregory Crouch

Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
Jul 2, 2013 - 11:29am PT
Nutjub, that's one of the great modern American books.

I'm going to out myself as the outrageous tool & dork that I am, but last night I just finished my 400th book since I began writing Enduring Patagonia in January of 2000. I know this because I've been keeping a list. Forgive me, but here's the damn list.

I wish it were longer. ;-)

[And thanks, Roxy. Hope you enjoy Learning to Fly!]
sullly

Trad climber
Jul 2, 2013 - 11:58am PT
Nutjob, I've taught the book many a time. It never gets old. The story you quote from, "On The Rainy River," has that great wise old man who rows Tim to the Canadian border. I like the foreshadowing where Tim works in the meat factory. My female students love Marianne Bell who becomes a hardened greenie.

After you've exhausted O'Brien (read Going After Cacciato), move on to his friend and Vietnam vet - Tobias Wolf. He's equally funny with outdoor and Vietnam stories. He wrote This Boy's Life and teaches at Stanford. I heard him speak when I took a short story class there from Michael Krasny two years ago.

Saw O'Brien speak at Stanford too. He wrote a funny novel about his divorce that might entertain you, Tomcat in Love.
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Jul 2, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
Nutjub, that's one of the great modern American books.

I'm going to out myself as the outrageous tool & dork that I am, but last night I just finished my 400th book since I began writing Enduring Patagonia in January of 2000. I know this because I've been keeping a list. Forgive me, but here's the damn list.

I wish it were longer. ;-)

Welcome to dorkland Greg. I keep the same sort of list of books I've read (as did my Dad before me). And I think my list since 2000 is longer than yours, so I'm an even bigger nerd. Though we have a fair amount of duplicates.

On the Vietnam front, the one book I've found comparable to Things They Carried is Matterhorn by Karl Marlantes.
And agree with you on Altered Carbon. If you like that, try to track down the Carlucci books by Richard Paul Russo.
Gregory Crouch

Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
Jul 2, 2013 - 01:31pm PT
Welcome to dorkland Greg. I keep the same sort of list of books I've read (as did my Dad before me). And I think my list since 2000 is longer than yours, so I'm an even bigger nerd. Though we have a fair amount of duplicates.

Writing those two cost me SO MANY books... maybe I'd compete better if I hadn't sumped so much reading time into them. :-)

In Sci-Fi, I can't recommend Iain M. Banks strongly enough. His Culture novels. Start with Consider Phlebas and move on from there. His ship names alone make the books worth reading.
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Jul 2, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
Several of Banks books were already on my Amazon wish list. Maybe I'll have to bump them a little higher.
And China's Wings is sitting on my book shelf in the To Be Read stack, so it will count for me, where it counted against you :-)
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Jul 2, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
The problem with keeping a real list is you miss the opportunity to reread a book you already read because you see it on your list.

How many times have you begun a book and realized you had already read it? Numerous times for me and the funny part is how new it is the second time around. Amazing what we retain and what we forget.

Then again, what is really weird is to buy back one of your own books at an used bookstore!
Gregory Crouch

Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
Jul 2, 2013 - 02:15pm PT
True story: A friend of mine recently bought a used copy of Enduring Patagonia from Amazon, and tucked inside the book was a very risque note from girlfriend to boyfriend describing in exquisite and superb detail what she was going to do to him when he got back from the long expedition on which he was about to embark. Apparently the book was a gift to help him while away stormy days.

No names were included, but it suddenly occurs to me that the author or recipient of that note could be among us here on Supertopo...

If you're the author and you've ditched the guy, PM me... :-)

Addendum: if she were a better friend, she'd have bought the eBook.

Hope you enjoy China's Wings, Stevep. God knows I need readers.
nutjob

Sport climber
Almost to Hollywood, Baby!
Jul 2, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
GC, I thought stuff like that only happened in male-written porn fantasies.

Sully, yeah that Marianne Bell story stuck with me. I can't say I was horrified by it, or totally creeped out, but it definitely left a disquieting feeling, and I was pondering it for a while afterward. How many people have morality dictated by fear and lack of opportunity vs. some inner notion of what they really think is right?
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Jul 2, 2013 - 06:04pm PT
Guido,

in memory of the 150th anniversary, just plucked "Lincoln at Gettysburg" off the shelf, a book I inherited from my Dad. It'll be a reread. Last read was maybe 10 years ago.
sullly

Trad climber
Jul 2, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
Nutjob, some other parts you probably liked: Martha's volleyball photo, nose breaking, Kioawa, Lemon tree. I dare you not to cry when you get to the little girl with the red cap.
Gregory Crouch

Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
Jul 3, 2013 - 12:13am PT
I'm sorry, Nutjob...
LuckyPink

climber
the last bivy
Jul 3, 2013 - 12:59am PT
a friend recommended to me "House of Rain" by Greg Childs and I'm damn glad he did , I can't put it down. A narrative on the Anasazi of the southwest, he describes the current research and investigation of the vanished neolithic civilization. Fascinating, to say the least, in a ooncrete "go there, see for yourself" kind of way.

http://www.houseofrain.com/bookdetail.cfm?id=1183863026528

Gregory Crouch

Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
Jul 3, 2013 - 12:25pm PT
At my son's insistence, I read Max Brooks' World War Z yesterday evening and last night.

A guilty pleasure, but a good one.

Ryan has been running around the house singing the following:

"It's a zooombieee apocalypse...
it's a zooombieee apocalypse...
it's a zooombieee apocalypse....
it's World War Z!!!!"

There are associated hand movements, but they're indescribable. And indescribably hilarious. He's 12.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 4, 2013 - 10:45pm PT
I've been reading Thomas McEvilley's Art & Discontent; Theory at the Milleninium and found this interesting bit in one of the essays:

"In antiquity, people did not read silently to themselves, but aloud to one another. Cicero had a reader who followed him around all day with the book in hand; at any idle moment--in the street, in the bath, at table--he would recommence the reading. Those who were not, like Cicero, professional readers and writers, read aloud to one another or to themselves. Literature did not yet seem separate from the voice, from the body, from the living breath (spirit); it did not yet seem a silent world of abstraction into which one might wander away from the world of sense and relationship. The first person on record as having read silently to himself is Augustine of Hippo's teacher Saint Ambrose. Here is Augustine's description of it: 'When he read, his eyes scanned the page and his heart explored the meaning, but his voice was silent and his tongue was still... Often, when we came to see him, we found him reading like this in silence... We would sit there quietly, for no one have the heart to disturb him when he was so engrossed... After a time we went away..." So Ambrose sat silent with his book, lacking apparent speech or locomotion..." [Saint Augustine, Confessions]

Interesting thought that "Books on Tape" is a regression to the past...
DesertRatExpeditions

Trad climber
Flagstaff, Arizona
Jul 4, 2013 - 11:25pm PT
Doctor on Everest...
weezy

climber
Jul 5, 2013 - 12:42am PT
cat's cradle
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jul 5, 2013 - 09:43am PT
Mila 18. Great read by Leon Uris. The near ending of which, looked like this.

mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Jul 5, 2013 - 02:08pm PT
I just finished 'Instructions for a Heatwave' by Maggie O'Farrell. I came upon it by chance, and it's great. I haven't enjoyed a novel so much for a while, now. So I kept on going, and started another one by her 'After You'd Gone' which seems to be really good, too.
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Jul 5, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
Just "read" Dune on Audiobook. Highly recommended as the get some top notch voice actors.
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