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bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Aug 24, 2012 - 09:21pm PT
To answer your question: NO, I would not want my family around a guy like this. I would be compelled to shoot him dead, on the spot!!!

Okay, I roger that.
splitter

Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Aug 24, 2012 - 10:27pm PT
Bluering,

That would be my gut reaction. Of course it depends on the circumstances. i would be inclined to think of the safety of my family first & foremost. Bt, if 20 years from now he is incredibly remorseful, had set forth to attempt to somehow make right the horrible wrong that he did. It was his life, his burden to do whatever he could to right his wrong, who the hell am I to do anything that would discourage or condemn this. i (my heart) would bleed with him in his remorse. i do believe this would be the best end.

And, regardless of his disposition, I would have a strong desire to get inside this guys head. I do not, necessarily, have any desire to personally inflict harm or punish him. That is Norway's business (& ultimately Gods, imo)! I am a therapist, what would you expect of a therapist. i have had close & personal contact with sociopaths & serial killers from a young age. i began a thesis which was in regards to just that. Interviewing sociopaths in various institutions, seeing if there was any significant change, remorse, etc.!

I do recall that the young sociopath that i had as a neighbor & "friend" that attempted to kill me, approached me in a very compromising situation. My father turned him in for a very serious crime he had done. In reality, he had been doing similar things all his life. Rape, got at least one 12 y.o. girl pregnant, torchered & killed numerous animals, would do hideous things to them, robbery, burglary, theft & on and on? (besides attempting to kill me).

He was 14-15 at the time I had just turned 13. He cornered me (had another guy with him) my father had turned him in and he new it (it was obvious that i had informed my father of his crime). He had been in treatment for about six months (locked up), and they had let him out for the weekend. I thought i was toast. He walked up and looked me in the eyes and said, "I want you to tell your father that i am very thankful for what he did, I have a lot of problems and they are helping me with them." he shook my hand and turned and walked away. So there you go. i believe intervention must start very young to have any effect. But anything is possible, that is my belief.

edit: ultimately it will be Norway's decision what to do with him. All we can do is pray that they are given wisdom & that he is transformed! My hope is for healing for Norway in regards to this matter. Their social, cultural, moral, political & whatever beliefs are not my business & are not of any concern to me. i look at them as fellow humane beings. We could share & learn a lot from each other. The bottom line, as silly and naive as it may seem, is healing, peace & love. Why fret over anything else?

EDIT: And what about the victims? Shouldn't they have a say in this? && lives forever snuffed out. they cannot speak out about it. But, how about their loved ones? Do they have a say like they do here in America when the killer comes up for a parole hearing? They have a very strong presence here in the USA. I hope they also do in Norway!!

Who could live with themselves with the knowledge of knowing they silenced 77 young lives in a moment of rage? This guy is evil incarnate! Just looking at his pictures & watching somemore vids, that smug, smirking, practically sneering at times. What really bothers me is they are constantly talking about his agenda, beliefs, manifesto's and all that crap. Prollie exactly what he wants. It should be silenced. He should be silenced. What a loathsome character. I wouldn't want to be anywhere around the guy. Pathetic to say, but I prollie would be tempted to off the guy. He is beyond repugnant, disgusting.
T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Feb 18, 2013 - 11:52pm PT
(CNN) -- The shooting spree at Sandy Hook Elementary School may have been motivated by a desire by Adam Lanza to outdo Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian man who killed 77 people in July 2011, law enforcement sources told CBS Evening News.

The unnamed sources said Lanza saw himself as being in direct competition with Breivik, who killed eight with a bombing in downtown Oslo before he moved to a nearby island where he hunted down and fatally shot 69 people.

According to the sources, the 20-year-old Lanza wanted to top Breivik's death toll and went to the Connecticut school on December 14 because it was the "easiest target" and had the "largest cluster of people."
wivanoff

Trad climber
CT
Feb 19, 2013 - 04:39am PT
(CNN) -- The shooting spree at Sandy Hook Elementary School may have been motivated by a desire by Adam Lanza to outdo Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian man who killed 77 people in July 2011, law enforcement sources told CBS Evening News.

They know this how?

From the same article you quoted:
The same officials also linked Lanza's actions to violent video games.

O.O

A spokesman for the Connecticut State Police dismissed the CBS report, calling it speculation.

"It's inaccurate ... I talked with CBS and told them that," Lt. Paul Vance told CNN. "We are dealing with a deceased shooter and trying to rebuild history."
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Sep 16, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
Norway's disturbing lurch to the right

The anti-immigration party's electoral success shows the country has not dealt with the roots of Anders Breivik's crimes

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/10/norway-lurch-to-right
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Sep 16, 2013 - 01:43pm PT
Marlow do you think the country can deal with it ?
This was an intriguing quote :

In other words, the 2013 elections have thrown up a marriage of neoliberal conservatism and rightwing populism that threatens to entrench that which we need to rid ourselves of and erode that which we should struggle to keep.

What are your thoughts as a regular Norsk ?
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