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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 22, 2011 - 10:52am PT
It was 75 years ago today that the debacle came to a close.

Hinterstoisser was already dead only days after engineering the traverse that his name would forever invoke in climbing history. Austrians Angerer and Rainer had died as well.

Only Toni Kurz remained alive and, agonizingly slowly, he attempted to rope down to the railway window where would be rescuers had gathered.
A knot jammed on the rock and, with the rescuers able to touch his crampon tips with their axes, Kurz could go no farther.

Reportedly he looked at them and muttered that 'it was finished' (I believe that would be, "Es ist vorbei."), and swung outward.

Later that year the bodies (including those of Sedlemayer and Mehringer whose demise the year before had caused the naming of Death Bivouac) were recovered by guides.
Kurz had to be cut loose by means of a knife on a stick.






Just a little historical perspective. You may now return to politics and religion.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jul 22, 2011 - 10:59am PT
See the movie...

North Face
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Jul 22, 2011 - 11:04am PT
I dunno, I thought Mordwand was a power-up in the Lord of the Rings video game...
Caveman

climber
Cumberland Plateau
Jul 22, 2011 - 11:11am PT
"Ich kann nicht mehr"
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Jul 22, 2011 - 11:17am PT

Climbing threads should have climbing photos!!
Thanks Ron.







Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 22, 2011 - 11:19am PT
Whillan's comment to the Japanese he met who were going up while he and _?_
were retreating was the best:

"Aye, you might be going a lot 'igher than you think."

Which, in fact, was the case.
squishy

Mountain climber
sacramento
Jul 22, 2011 - 11:31am PT
I am headed over to climb it in a week, wish me luck!!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2011 - 11:35am PT
Take a helmet or you will be well named, squishy.
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Jul 22, 2011 - 11:43am PT
Squishy, for realz???


Remember, that buzzing sound doesn't mean look up.
Practice hiding under yer helmet.

You better put up a helluva TR!!
Scott Thelen

Trad climber
Truckee, Ca
Jul 22, 2011 - 11:56am PT
local1

climber
CH
Jul 22, 2011 - 12:14pm PT
"I am headed over to climb it in a week, wish me luck!!"

uuh, lots of fresh snow right now above 3000m... hope u have enough time to wait a few days! Good luck!
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jul 22, 2011 - 12:23pm PT

Can't wait to see Metanoia from Jello. . .
cintune

climber
Midvale School for the Gifted
Jul 22, 2011 - 12:32pm PT
"I can not."

'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Jul 22, 2011 - 12:37pm PT
Wasn't it a knot in the rope that jammed in Kurz' rappel carabiner that prevented him from going down far enough to be rescued?
rick d

climber
ol pueblo, az
Jul 22, 2011 - 12:39pm PT
kurz also said before he went up:

Die Wand ist unserer oder wir bleiben an ihr (I have the correct Deutsch somewhere)

The wall is ours or we stay (die) on it....
Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
Jul 22, 2011 - 01:09pm PT
Wasn't it a knot in the rope that jammed in Kurz' rappel carabiner that prevented him from going down far enough to be rescued?

Seem to recall that. Hadn't he unravelled a rope they sent up and tied the pieces together?. Also had heard that after he passed on, they cut him down with a knife on a 10 foot long stick. Something they apparently didn't think of while he was "hanging in there". Yikes.

The movie is great, despite not having the famous quote, or, that there's a photo of him hanging with icicles on his crampons and the movie had them leaving their spikes.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2011 - 02:28pm PT
Must've been a gym noob.
cintune

climber
Midvale School for the Gifted
Jul 22, 2011 - 03:07pm PT
Exhausted, hypothermic, one hand frostbitten, delirious with shock and grief, um, yeah, typical noob situation.
local1

Mountain climber
CH
Jul 22, 2011 - 03:32pm PT
There is even more to that story: He had to knot two ropes together because the long (enough) rope fell down the wall when the grindelwald guides tried to approach him. With his frozen hand he was able to knot the short two ropes together but not to pass the knot
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Jul 22, 2011 - 03:38pm PT
Thanks for the clarifications, guys.

What time of year did the Kurz tragedy occur? Was it "summer"? Are conditions there still so hostile at that time of year these days?

Man, you look at photos of the mountain now, and it bears no resemblance to the photos in Herrer's book. First and Second Icefields gone, and no White Spider.
Mick K

climber
Northern Sierra
Jul 22, 2011 - 04:30pm PT
I am going to the Eiger next month but can't get a topo for the Mitigelli Ridge because the one I ordered from Chessler is stucvk in customs.

Anyone willing to scan a copy of the guide for the Mitigelli Ridge route.
squishy

Mountain climber
sacramento
Jul 22, 2011 - 04:37pm PT
Good route choice, I will be heading up the South Ridge myself...
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Jul 22, 2011 - 05:48pm PT
the recent film mentioned above is pretty decent
I believe there's a black-and-white (of course) photo of Kurz hanging just out of reach of his would-be rescuers. File under: Situations That Would Really Suck To Be In.

choss aficionado edit: the eiger is choss -- UberChoss.
squishy

Mountain climber
sacramento
Jul 22, 2011 - 05:55pm PT

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2011 - 07:56pm PT
cintune, want to buy the Brooklyn Bridge?

Sheesh!
(Kurz died how many decades before gym noobs?)
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Jul 22, 2011 - 08:35pm PT
Infamous quote we always used while pulling a pendulum line: "Don't worry Hinterstoisser, we can get back."
cintune

climber
Midvale School for the Gifted
Jul 22, 2011 - 08:42pm PT
Heh, yeah, I know, but I was momentarily outraged, outraged I tell ya.

He obviously shouldn't have gotten off the pink route.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2011 - 10:04pm PT
Didn't Patey put the myth of the irreversible traverse to bed in A Short Walk With Whillans?
steve shea

climber
Jul 23, 2011 - 09:05am PT
The 38' route on the north face is one of the most satisfying climbs I've done. It was a formative route for me long before I ever climbed it, I had to go there. The history, the stories of the epics, the size, it's location in the Bernese Oberland, the foehn... I'm so into alpine history the first thing I did on my first trip to Chamonix and to Courmayeur was to visit the cemeteries. The Eiger NF took three attempts. The first ended in a storm at the wet cave, went with Tobin in Aug 77' and witnessed the foehn. It was incredible, think chinook winds on the east slope of the rockies only on steroids! We're talking wind. Finally had success in fall 79' with Larry Bruce. It was classic! We even visited the von Allmens (SP) and arranged for a weather update by flashing light from our bivy at the Swallows nest. We got to race a storm to the summit, found a body on the Ramp Icefield, between the Icebulge on the top of the ramp and Brittle Ledge, had an epic descent in the full fury of the storm. Got to bivy on the Traverse of the Gods. The Gods traverse had sh#t for pro and although easy, it was enough to make you soil your britches. What a way to start your day. It worked better than coffee. I found several pockets perfect for the Friends I got from Jardine. I always carried a couple of friends on alpine routes just in case. We had perfect conditions, cold and calm with about a two day window according to the meteo at Geneva Airport. We knew we were racing a storm but went for it anyway. We were extremely fit and had climbed a lot together from Yosemite to the Canadian Rockies to Eldo. We started at noon day 1 and finished at noon day 3 just as the storm broke. We packed heavy, not light and fast. It was just right. we knew we had plenty of food and fuel so we could relax and enjoy the climb and take in the history. I stole an old pin from our belay at the Death Bivousc. I could not believe I was sitting at the Death Bivouac. It had been a normal year for precip and all the famous ice passages were there and in great shape except the ice hose. Larry had that lead and did some 5.10 on the wall to the left with a pack and crampons to get us to the second icefield. The only other question that provided some anxiety was the condition of the Icebulge at the top of the Ramp. It was fat and strenuous and a big bulge but not that hard or run out. Once again though as many times before on the route I thought of the those guys in the 30's. And would just pause to reflect. I remember that feeling on the Nose thinking of Batso on the last pitch bolting through the night. I wanted to be up but I did not want to lose this connection to the pioneers. Ron thanks for posting the reminder. Good memories for me. Maybe I'll dig out my old slides and do a TR. Climbing is the best sport in the world!
JohnnyG

climber
Jul 23, 2011 - 12:03pm PT
yeah steve- we want to see those pics and read the whole account
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Jul 25, 2011 - 01:37am PT
Very good account of the whole ordeal here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmjJBu0xiwc
squishy

Mountain climber
sacramento
Aug 16, 2011 - 01:08pm PT
wow, way to show your knowledge of the route there chef, you're always so quick to jump on my ass that your reading comprehension completely fails you. I bet my mere presents makes you blood boil enough to shake you from any holds...how are you not dead yet with such a temperament? I believe heinrich harrer describes your very personality when he recommends who should not be climbing the Eiger, thank you for the fine example to point out to others...
reddirt

climber
PNW
Aug 16, 2011 - 01:49pm PT
ignore the Chief & post some pics!
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Aug 16, 2011 - 02:16pm PT
Reilly, yes it was Patey who was with Whillans
(Tom Patey, wonderful Scot climber/writer/humorist).

The classic line by Whillans, yes, but so funny are
those first words of Whillans, "You Japs?" Patey adds, "The
question seemed an unnecessary one." (I'm quoting from memory,
so it might be a tiny bit different...). That is one of
the finest pieces of climbing writing on the planet.
Michael Lecky

Mountain climber
Harvard, MA
Aug 16, 2011 - 02:27pm PT
In 1975, I spent a night high up across the valley from the Mordwand, swaddled in my Chouinard cag and matching pied d' elephant. I stared and stared. I'd ascended trifles such as V Notch and Mendel Colouir and Whitney east buttress and "Revelation" on Suicide, and fancied myself a climber. All I felt that night was insurmountable fear. That was the end of the romance. Yeah, I climbed, but I'm not a climber. Either you are, or you aren't. That night, I knew I wasn't. I stupidly trundled on for another five years, till nearly losing my life coming down from an ice route on Mt. Washington, in a total bungle.

Read "The White Spider" and "Straight Up," kids. Great books on the Eigerwand.
squishy

Mountain climber
sacramento
Aug 16, 2011 - 02:29pm PT
we were unable to summit anything, we gave the Monch a try from the hut in a small weather window but were shut down on everything else. Our attempt on the Wetterhorn ended in being very very wet while running down and dodging rock bombs. That place makes the Serra look safe as hell...thunderstorms, falling rock, waterfalls, avalanches...just picture all of that occurring at the same time, you do a lot of retreating out there. We had to help some tourons down and assisted them in the streams that became rivers in minutes. I hear you guys had some similar weather on the east side.

We then headed to the south of France for some wine to relax, the swiss are swindlers, I paid 24 bucks for a liter of water at a hut...
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Aug 16, 2011 - 02:35pm PT
Ron,
Your question about the Hinterstoisser Traverse... There were two
ropes running across it, and most people simply walked across,
as Patey says, "in three minutes." The rappel lines, though, that
they took on the descent bypassed the traverse. They rappelled
down along the line leading to the Swallow's Nest, reaching at last
the start of the Hinterstoisser Traverse. In the past it was the
habit to leave (abandon) a rope on the traverse, to ensure a
retreat, and eliminate the "traverse of no return." But finally
that rappel line was found, and apparently not much to it.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Aug 16, 2011 - 02:54pm PT
Two great Eiger books:

Daniel Anker. Eiger. The Vertical Arena.
Rainer Rettner. Eiger. Triumphe und Tragödien 1932-1938
squishy

Mountain climber
sacramento
Aug 16, 2011 - 03:19pm PT
I want to see the old Eiger films, the 1st ones shot on the face anyone know how to get a hold of such a thing?
squishy

Mountain climber
sacramento
Aug 16, 2011 - 03:20pm PT
Crystal Basin guide DMT, and I so want to head back out there...
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 16, 2011 - 03:46pm PT
Michael Lecky,
you have a pied d'elephant?

You know how Patey defined that?
steve shea

climber
Aug 16, 2011 - 03:58pm PT
The dead guy we found frozen into the ramp icefield had a canvas type coat, one dachstein mitt, a bluet globetrotter stove and an elephant's foot.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 16, 2011 - 04:00pm PT
A boot made for a climber who has lost his toes to frostbite??
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Aug 16, 2011 - 04:01pm PT
'Um die Eiger Nordwand' Kasparek/Harrer, Copyright 1938, has dozens of great pictures from 'BITD'; just in case anyone is under the illusion that the sport was invented in California! I'll find time to scan and post.

'The White Spider' has always had a prominent place in my home; alongside Buhl's 'Lonely Challenge'; and Lionel Terray's 'Conquistadors of the Useless'
steve shea

climber
Aug 16, 2011 - 04:08pm PT
Ron, he lost more than his toes...
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Aug 16, 2011 - 04:21pm PT
The last and very well researched book on the Eiger is Rainer Rettner's "Eiger. Triumphe und Tragödien 1932-1938" from 2008. A lot old pictures we have never seen before in addition to already known pictures.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Aug 17, 2011 - 04:47pm PT
A bit of Heckmair's story:

Anderl Heckmair was born on October 12 1906. His father, whose family owned a gardening business, was a master gardener for the City of Munich, but was killed aged 42 in the First World War. Unable to afford to bring up two boys, Anderl's mother sent her sons to an orphanage, where Heckmair's abiding memory was of hunger; the two stole boiled potatoes from pigs to supplement their diet of pearl barley soup. The summer of 1918 was spent with two nuns in Switzerland, and it was they who gave Heckmair his first taste of the mountains.
ulybaZZa

Trad climber
Bonn, Germany
Aug 17, 2011 - 08:11pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-dPjDYVKUY
ulybaZZa

Trad climber
Bonn, Germany
Aug 18, 2011 - 11:09am PT
Another nice story about Heckmair: In 1934, he took part as a reserve of the DSV team (Franz Fischer, Gustav "Gustl" Müller, Matthias Wörndle) in the legendary Trofeo Mezzalama ski mountaineering competition. Heckmair started one and a half hour after the teams as single runner and overtook all the competing teams.

Must have been quite embarrassing for the competitors :)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 18, 2011 - 11:20am PT
I miss my pied, d'elephant, that is. I think some Rooskie got it.

The Eiger and Robson are the two things I'm most sorry to have not climbed.
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Aug 18, 2011 - 12:21pm PT
quick snapshots from 'Um die Eiger Nordwand' Kasparek/Harrer, Copyright 1938
deserving of professional reproduction...

i am struck by the similarities between the way the superhero climbers were treated in Germany in the 1930s and the way the Apollo astronauts were treated in the USA in the 1960s


















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squishy

Mountain climber
sacramento
Aug 18, 2011 - 01:34pm PT
wow, thanks for posting those!!
squishy

Mountain climber
sacramento
Aug 18, 2011 - 01:37pm PT
some pics from my recent trip there






Michael Lecky

Mountain climber
Harvard, MA
Aug 18, 2011 - 04:52pm PT
There was a bit of doggerel about alpine frostbite, perhaps from Tom Patey's "One Man's Mountains":

Ten frozen fingers, ten frozen toes
The memory lingers, but the digit goes.

Ulysses S. Grant wrote that war is progressive. So is climbing. Will Eiger north face become a tourist route, like Whitney east buttress or the Whitney-Gillman route on Cannon? You tell me. Knock yourselves out, kids. I love reading about what you're doing.
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Aug 19, 2011 - 01:07pm PT








TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Aug 19, 2011 - 01:17pm PT








TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Aug 19, 2011 - 01:27pm PT











TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Aug 19, 2011 - 01:40pm PT










TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Aug 19, 2011 - 01:48pm PT










squishy

Mountain climber
Sac town
Sep 2, 2011 - 11:48am PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFTtX9LerRA
local1

Mountain climber
CH
Sep 4, 2011 - 03:43pm PT
The first one, with the Finstraerhorn (SP?) in the background, shows what i believe is a peak called the Ochs. That particular north wall is a fearsome looking rig (...)

It's called "Finsteraarhorn" and the peak below is the "Ochs" or "Klein Fiescherhorn". The north wall is called the "Fiescherhorn northwall". It is quite dangerous now because of the warmer temperature and ice melting whitch is causing rockfall.

more one topic: The Eiger northwall is right know "black" - now snow or ice in the 1st icefield, only a little ice on the 2nd icefield and on the white spider...really to warm and/or not enough snow...
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Sep 4, 2011 - 03:51pm PT
Thanks, Tom - were all those photos in the original German account of the climb?
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Sep 4, 2011 - 04:09pm PT
from the trashy book The Eiger Sanction (paraphrasing):

some person, addressing Hemlock: "Do you want scotch or bourbon?"

Hemlock: "Do you have Laphroaig?"

some person: "No."

Hemlock: "Then it doesn't matter."
michaeld

Sport climber
Near Tahoe, CA
Sep 5, 2011 - 02:14am PT
I literally just watched that last week. Awesome movie.

I was really glad when I didn't see any simul-climbing on separate bolted routes like in Vertical Limit.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 19, 2014 - 02:19pm PT

Anderl Heckmair interviewed - Mountain 16 (1971/72)
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jul 26, 2014 - 10:59am PT

A few Heckmair quotes from "My Life"

"Throughout my life when I came to a crossroads I always chose the path that led back to the mountains, even when a woman stood in the other road. Had I chosen otherwise, the course of my life would have been different. Perhaps I would have become a playboy, perhaps the adoptive son of a charming, influential French family. Perhaps...but that's not what happened."

"As a climber, the play of balance that affords such a marvelous feeling of freedom came naturally to me. I was never extravagant in my demands, being happy to make do with small holds. Yet the death of my two comrades had been a salutary and painful lesson. Even if you are lucky enough to have a sixth sense for the mountains, it still needs to be excercised, developed, and sharpened. The early, impetuous years are the most dangerous for a climber."

"What I could never understand was why climbers are so often judged according to the difficulty of the climbs they undertake, when there were so many other beautiful things to experience in the mountains. In this respect I owed a lot to my work, which gave me an eye and a taste for botany and geology. But even the roughest lads among us were sensitive to all the beauties of nature. I am convinced that it has always been so with the mountaineers and always will be."

On Yellowstone:
"We were not hell-bent on only climbing mountains, of course. Yellowstone National Park lay on our route and who could possibly drive past such a wonder of nature? We therefore traveled by Greyhound bus from Calgary to Livingston, where we hired a car to continue the journey via Gardiner to the park. Nowhere in the world are there so many natural marvels all gathered together in one place and easily accessible. The ground steams and puffs; there are not just hundreds but thousands of geysers, big and small, whole valleys of them."

The Eiger:
"I am often asked whether I would climb that route again. I cannot think of any reason why I would do so. I did not climb the North Face for prestige or glory, but for the experience it gave me. The record-breaking ascents of recent years do not interest me at all. There is an old poachers' saying that states, 'Freedom is to be found in the mountains.' The sentiment is equally applicable to mountain climbing. We should all be free to do as we please and to find personal pleasure as we see fit."

On adventure:
"How often I have returned from such travels with the fondest memories only to have the question come up, 'Will such a thing ever happen again?' Should I, at the age of 90-plus, close with 'Well, that was it'? Who knows? But at least it ends with a question mark."
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Jul 27, 2014 - 11:25pm PT
Tom,where on earth did you find the book? I must have a copy. I looked all night on the google to no avail. Help. Throw me a bone Tom! Any clue will help.
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
Jul 27, 2014 - 11:50pm PT
Ron wrote:
Later that year the bodies (including those of Sedlemayer and Mehringer whose demise the year before had caused the naming of Death Bivouac) were recovered by guides.

Max Sedlmayr's body was found at the foot of the face by guides searching for the remainder of Hinterstoisser's party. But, Kark Mehringer's body was not found until 27 years later at the foot of the Second Icefield.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jul 28, 2014 - 12:42pm PT

Two words:

Jello Metanoia
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jul 28, 2014 - 12:51pm PT

Allen Hill.

You find a lot of excellent photos in this book: "Eiger. Triumphe und Tragödien 1932-1938" by Rainer Rettner. Though not as large photos.

Luca Signorelli said on the UKClimbing.com forum:

Rainer, is in my humble opinion, today's greatest writer of mountain history. He's a great writer AND a great historian. His book on the Corti tragedy of 1957 was an amazing achievement, and I think that "Eiger - Triumphe and Tragodien" will ever surpass it. It's really a new generation of mountain histories, something I think it's somehow needed at long last.

Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Apr 19, 2015 - 10:21am PT

Climbing the Eiger Nordwand, The Heckmair
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Climbers: Dongjin Lyu, Age.64. Wook Heo, Age.59. Peelseok Han, Age.54. Myungsik Jin, Age.52
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jun 12, 2015 - 11:40am PT

Die Höfats-Überschreitung aus dem Jahr 1968 mit Bergführer Anderl Heckmair. Kameramann: Bergführer Peter Lechhart - der Mitbegründer von Globetrotter.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

More peaceful times...
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 12, 2015 - 12:22pm PT
Joe Simpson meets Heckmair, and Heckmair realizes who he is:

https://books.google.com/books?id=LLUNNN_Nq4AC&pg=PA232&lpg=PA232&dq=joe+simpson+meets+heckmair&source=bl&ots=P1nCWqMqOm&sig=kwi0xWqKof0kha8WIOGhlekWusM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAGoVChMI3JCjyuyKxgIViKWICh3LPAsv#v=onepage&q=joe%20simpson%20meets%20heckmair&
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jun 12, 2015 - 02:04pm PT
The Eiger in Winter by Toni Hiebler and Diretissima (the story of the John Harlin Route) were two of my earliest mountaineering reads, along with Gaston Rebuffat's
story of meeting up with Hermann Buhl on the Eigerwand (or, as one my friends who is a Buhl sychophant
put it, the story of Buhl rescuing the Frenchmen).

"A Short Walk With Whillans" in One Man's Mountains remains my favorite, however. The comment about the two Japanese climbers,
as I remember it (I'm at the office, the book is at home) went something like Whillans asking them "You going up?" as Patey and
Whillans were hightailing it out. They replied, "Yes, always up. First Japanese ascent." "You-may-be-going-up, mates," said Whillans,
giving each syllable unnecessary emphasis, "but a whole lot 'igher than you think!" . . . after saying goodbye, Whillans commented "'appy
little pair. i doubt we'll ever see them again," but, in fact, they reached Whillans' and Patey's high point, stayed there through a full-
blown Eiger storm, and made it down in one piece. Patey described them, with great admiration, as forerunners of "modern Japanese climbers,
who climb Everest for the purpose of ski-ing [sic] back
down."

John
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Jun 12, 2015 - 03:29pm PT
Andreas Hinterstoisser

Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jun 12, 2015 - 04:41pm PT
bump


http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=478875&tn=20#msg2640740



` thinking about how the world, would be different if KB had passed on the Matterhorn,
where he died ...Bat manning down a short stretch,
un-roped and the anchor block blew leaving his wife ledged out. . . . ,
. .the Nor wand, would have been a better objective. .
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Jun 12, 2015 - 09:42pm PT
hey there say... wow, just going this... soaking it all in...
oh my...


great photos, thank you for sharing these, all you guys...
links, etc, and all...
Poloman

Trad climber
Anna, Il
Jun 12, 2015 - 10:00pm PT
A fellow that I knew in the 80's climbed the Eigerwand solo. I bow "I'm not worthy"
overwatch

climber
Jun 13, 2015 - 08:50am PT
Awesome pile. Huge respect to anyone even attempting that thing. Thanks for the bump.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jun 25, 2015 - 11:13am PT


On July 24 1938 Heckmair, Wiggerl Vörg and the Austrians Heinrich Harrer and Fritz Kasparek stood on the summit having defeated the last great problem of the Alps. Their achievement is considered one of the finest moments of alpine mountaineering, and Heckmair made it possible by navigating the way through the labyrinth of ice gullies and by leading the most difficult sections. On their return they were greeted as heroes of the German Reich, to Heckmair's disquiet.

Mountaineers turned to the great north faces in the early 1930s. Those of the Matterhorn and the Grandes Jorasses were conquered in 1931 and 1935, and only the Eiger remained. By 1938 it had exacted a high rate of attrition: of the 12 climbers who attempted the north face - or Eigerwand - in the 1930s, only three survived. The death of Toni Kurz in 1936 was especially tragic: he perished within earshot of his rescuers while dangling from a rope.

The press dubbed the Eiger's north face the Mordwand ("death wall"). The Swiss even passed a law banning all attempts, although it was repealed after protests. Even the guides had officially declared that they would not participate in rescues. It was in this atmosphere that Heckmair and Vörg arrived in early July, hiding their climbing gear so as to keep their attempt secret.

The 5,905-ft wall of the face posed a formidable challenge. The combination of crumbling rock, ice and loose snow required techniques that were ahead of their time. Avalanches and snow-storms were to be expected. Once committed, it was almost impossible to retreat.

Harrer and Kasparek set off on July 21, Heckmair and Vörg caught up with them the following day. Despite obvious rivalry, they realised that if they were to succeed they should unite. They shared their loads so that Heckmair, the best climber, led with the lightest sack. "Anderl led like a hero all the way up the climb - a real hero, quietly doing the job and serving his friends," wrote Harrer in White Spider, his account of the ascent.

In full view of the tourists at the Scheidegg hotel, who watched through telescopes, they inched their way upwards through the now famous landmarks of the face: the "difficult crack", the Hinterstoisser Traverse, the second and third icefields. At the first bivouac at "the ramp", some two thirds of the way up, Heckmair became ill after eating sardines that were off. Cured by a cup of peppermint tea, he then attacked the hardest pitch of the climb.

First he tried to follow the rock, but a hold broke off and he fell. Angry, he attacked again, this time with a set of revolutionary crampons that had front points. "He then treated us to an acrobatic tour de force," recalled Harrer. "It was half superb rock-technique, half a toe-dance on the ice - a toe-dance above a perpendicular drop."

At one point, Heckmair's crampons had a purchase of only a few millimetres, but he defeated the pitch, cut footholds and made himself safe. He attacked the next pitch in a similar spirit, but fell again; the piton held. With each fall his anger increased, yet he continued to venture upwards until he was successful. "It was the hardest part of the climb so far," he remembered. "I was satisfied, but not inclined to wish for any further heightening of the satisfaction."

Nevertheless, it came. He fell again, this time landing on Vörg, piercing his hand with a crampon point. Heckmair prevented his friend from going into shock with the advice: "Pull yourself together, everything depends on it." Vörg responded, and they reached the summit. When they returned to the valley below, they were mobbed by an ecstatic crowd.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1482809/Anderl-Heckmair.html

JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jun 25, 2015 - 11:47am PT
I remember an article in an early issue of Mountain magazine. They were remarkable climbers,but Heckmaier really stood out.

John
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 25, 2015 - 12:06pm PT
"I was satisfied, but not inclined to wish for any further heightening of the satisfaction."

That there is some damn good understated wordage on the yardage.
Spiny Norman

Social climber
Boring, Oregon
Jun 25, 2015 - 12:44pm PT
Great minds…

Meriwether Lewis, after a grizzly bear had absorbed 8 or 9 rifle shots and still chased him and members of the party into a river:

“I find the curiosity of our men with respect to this animal is pretty much satisfied.”
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
May 31, 2016 - 12:13pm PT

Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jun 6, 2017 - 12:03pm PT

The equipment used by Heckmair during the FA of the North wall of the Eiger


DanaB

climber
CT
Jun 6, 2017 - 02:20pm PT
If I remember correctly, Heckmair and his partner started after the first two climbers and joined them part way on the wall.
One of the first two said later that he was watching Heckmair and his partner coming up and "I looked below me and saw the new generation of climbers ascending up to us, literally running up the face." Heckmair had 12-point crampons, the other party had been chopping steps,
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 6, 2017 - 02:47pm PT
Bump, cause it's badazz!
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Jun 6, 2017 - 03:23pm PT
Toni Kurz's grave in Berchtesgaden cemetery...


Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jun 24, 2018 - 10:31am PT

Eiger North Wall 1966

originalpmac

Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
Jun 24, 2018 - 11:05am PT
Great thread.
groaz

Big Wall climber
italy
Jun 24, 2018 - 01:09pm PT
My good friend Jim Bridwell, your american climber hero that pass away, was there about 25 year ago with an argentina woman. He liked Eiger nordwand/mordwand...
matty

Trad climber
under the sea
Jun 24, 2018 - 06:48pm PT
Thanks for sharing Camaron great pics!
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Jun 24, 2018 - 07:18pm PT
http://time.com/4066976/rock-climbing-eiger-europe-sasha-digiulian/
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 10, 2019 - 12:39am PT

Face to Face with the Eiger

[Click to View YouTube Video]
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Feb 10, 2019 - 08:41am PT
"Ich kann nicht mehr" is Hochdeutsch

More likely, being Bavarian from Berchtesgaden, Toni Kurz said...

"I ko nimma" speaking in Bavarian dialect.
Bale

Mountain climber
UT
Feb 10, 2019 - 09:05am PT
Thanks Marlow, that vid really shows the friability of the rock, wow.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Feb 10, 2019 - 11:28am PT
My favorite story about the Eiger, told by Joe Simpson:

https://books.google.com/books?id=LLUNNN_Nq4AC&pg=PA232&lpg=PA232&dq=heckmair+meets+Joe+Simpson&source=bl&ots=P2oH1pKpSf&sig=ACfU3U3-sZmCO1d28MzGg-LXDR6V49aZgg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjx5uTb57HgAhVB6Z8KHeHCBAYQ6AEwC3oECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=heckmair%20meets%20Joe%20Simpson&f=false
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