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Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Aug 22, 2011 - 11:53am PT
Credit: Ihateplastic
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Aug 22, 2011 - 05:58pm PT


couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 22, 2011 - 08:25pm PT
http://standardmadness.com/columns/10-reasons-why-staring-at-your-cleavage-is-scientifically-justified

The science *cough*.....* cough* (with some superb pictures) behind this discourse.
Captain...or Skully

climber
or some such
Aug 22, 2011 - 08:42pm PT
Homan.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 22, 2011 - 09:04pm PT
What is art-----and what is porn?


Every fisher-being knows this one is art.

A Beauty by Monte Dolack.
A Beauty by Monte Dolack.
Credit: Fritz
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Aug 22, 2011 - 09:11pm PT
"Country Girl"
"Country Girl"
Credit: Mtnmun
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 30, 2011 - 08:44pm PT
Nice Mtmon.

Here ya go Mimi. LINK, full text below.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2011/08/29/why_lisa_belkin_is_wrong_to_condemn_college_girls_for_dressing_s.html




"Photo by Lisa Maree Williams/Getty Images

I have one strong desire that carries through life, which is that I never become one of those women who self-identifies as a feminist while conflating the problem of inequality with the non-problem of young women being sexual. Should I ever start assuming that young women who have sex are being had, or if I start hyperventilating about young women wearing miniskirts, I hope I at least have the good sense to give up the writing thing and go into real estate. A piece like Lisa Belkin's in the New York Times, where she conflates women having sex with men and actual social inequalities between college men and women, makes me cringe in embarrassment for the writer. Having the whole world look at you and wonder if you've truly forgotten what it's like to be young and horny is my version of the nightmare where you're speaking in public and you look down and realize you've peed yourself in front of everyone.

To make it all worse, Belkin has some very real concerns to go along with her hand-wringing about college women wearing skimpy clothes to attract male attention or that young men make raunchy jokes. Belkin is quite right to be upset that men still exert total control over the college social scene, and that young women feel they have to suck up to men or they won't have a social life at all. It is troubling that some of her students believe that women have too much power because women technically have the legal right to decline a sexual encounter (though that right isn't honored in the legal system the way it should be). But to illustrate her point by fussing over the fact that young people drink and young women like to show off skin misses the point completely. In a world with complete equality, young women would still wear teeny skirts and drink alcohol at parties, because these things are fun. Even more distressingly, Belkin conflates the problem of campus rape with the fact that young women like to look sexy, saying that the young women who wore sexy Halloween costumes to a Duke fraternity party "had mothers who attended more than one Take Back the Night March in their college days," as if being opposed to campus rape and being willing to wear sexy clothes are in opposition to each other. But as the organizers of Slutwalk know, that's absolutely false. In fact, you can and should argue that men can look at a woman wearing sexy clothes and think, "She wants to look sexy," and not, "She's asking to be violently assaulted."

To Belkin, the fact that women dance in their underwear at parties is part of the same pattern that caused a fraternity to circulate an email explaining that women aren't actually people, as if women could get their people status back by putting more clothes on. But I think that men are perfectly capable of being turned on by a woman dancing in her underwear while never forgetting that said woman has a family that loves her, a mind of her own, and ambitions that are equal to his. We don't allow men's sexuality to dehumanize them in our eyes. If a young man spends his weekends partying and flirting with women, and spends his time in the classroom pulling down As, we don't see that as a contradiction. The belief that female sexual expression is uniquely dehumanizing is a double standard, no matter how much you dress it up in feminist language. Instead of condemning young women for the length of their skirts, why not use that energy for condemning anyone who would think that a woman is lesser-than because she wears a miniskirt?

Again, it's a shame, because I do think Belkin makes some interesting points about how unfair campus life is to women, who don't get to share power over orchestrating campus social life. That women's relationships with each other are eroded by competing for male attention is a problem, as is that men get to make all the decisions about what to do for fun and the women are just expected to tag along. But these problems are complicated, and solutions aren't immediately evident. Plus, the solutions to them would require asking something of men, that they share power and treat women with respect. Asking something of men seems to be the big taboo in our culture, even sometimes among feminists. In contrast, scolding women about what they wear is easy, even if it's a red herring. "
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 30, 2011 - 09:02pm PT
good article couchmaster your posting it would seem to indicate that you're willing to at least thing of following through with it...

...when the author states in her last paragraph: "...men get to make all the decisions about what to do for fun and the women are just expected to tag along. But these problems are complicated, and solutions aren't immediately evident. Plus, the solutions to them would require asking something of men, that they share power and treat women with respect. Asking something of men seems to be the big taboo in our culture,..."

as it is here, the men get to make the decision that it is fun to post pictures of a woman's breasts... and that the women on the forum should tag along... are you willing to give that up and allow the women to determine what is fun, and tag along with them?

I doubt it...
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2011 - 09:15pm PT
Plus, the solutions to them would require asking something of men, that they share power and treat women with respect. Asking something of men seems to be the big taboo in our culture,..."

I think that stems from a difference in communication style. Most men I know like straight forward questions and straight forward answers to questions, save for the obvious and often over the edge sarcasm and exaggerated crassness from time to time. Most women I know appear to prefer intricately complex stories with admittedly meaningless details and often appear offended by the discussions typical of even the finest gentlemen.

as it is here, the men get to make the decision that it is fun to post pictures of a woman's breasts... and that the women on the forum should tag along...

Nobody ever said they "should" tag along. Luckily, they still have that choice... but I don't know why they choose not to...

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 30, 2011 - 09:20pm PT
exactly my point, Wes...
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Aug 30, 2011 - 09:33pm PT
my points too
socialclimber

Trad climber
CA
Aug 30, 2011 - 10:04pm PT
When did it become wrong to be obsessed with breast? I love breasts, unfortunately the ones that I love have been stolen by another man, he is about to turn two and his tenure with said breasts is terminal, none-the-less I have been banned from them for quite some time...

Is the harsh response to the worshipping of breasts some kind of admonishment about worshipping the wrong part of the body? Is there another part I am supposed to worship? The lower back has always been exceedingly enticing to me...

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Charles
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Aug 30, 2011 - 10:17pm PT
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ruppell

climber
Aug 30, 2011 - 10:20pm PT
Yes a thread I don't have to read!!
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2011 - 10:20pm PT
Does loving this picture make me gay?

locker

Social climber
CO
Aug 30, 2011 - 10:29pm PT


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Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Sep 5, 2011 - 08:20am PT
found some more...


ec

climber
ca
Sep 6, 2011 - 10:05am PT
Touching 1,000 sets of...
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2011 - 10:16am PT
ec THAT is fuking awesome!

I'm going to try that...
this just in

climber
north fork
Sep 6, 2011 - 10:32am PT
I'm moving to Russia.
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