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weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 3, 2011 - 04:12pm PT
Did Mimi and Grossman and the other impotent old prudes get it wacked?

There wasn't even a single unclothed human nip in the entire thread... other than happie's.... uh, I mean the ones she posted... not of herself... nevermind.

I could post a picture of bloody children dying in the streets and it would stay up indefinitely.

But boobies!?!?!? God's most enjoyable self-contained fluid dynamic experiment? Well, that sh#t it just too OFFENSIVE!

Pathetic.
Captain...or Skully

climber
or some such
Jul 3, 2011 - 04:13pm PT
Yer gonna die?


Lembert Dome?


Uh, I dunno.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jul 3, 2011 - 04:22pm PT
God's most enjoyable self-contained fluid dynamic experiment?

Ummm, they're not always "self-contained"--that's kind of the point I think.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Jul 3, 2011 - 04:36pm PT
DAMN RIGHT THE TATAS ARE GONE!

THIS IS AMERICA!

UNLESS THEM TITTIES ARE SELLING US A NEW CAR OR SOME MIRACLE DRUG THEN WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM ANYMORE.

SIGNED,

BEN A. BOOMER
apogee

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 04:37pm PT
That's a shame. Though it never really gained any 'legs', did it?

Didn't see anything from Locker, either....once bitten, twice shy, I suppose.

Ah, well...I guess I understand. Those google ads aren't gonna be psyched when they appear against a bunch of bodacious ta-tas. Prudes.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jul 3, 2011 - 05:18pm PT
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2011 - 05:18pm PT
Proper sun protection is very important! Gotta make sure to get all those pesky cracks...


So, on an entirely different topic....

anyone tried this for forearm strengthening?

goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jul 3, 2011 - 05:33pm PT
Where'd the tittay's go?

weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2011 - 05:36pm PT
That is a beautiful image of a "sun spot" there. Personally I don't see how it could possibly be misinterpreted as something else...
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jul 3, 2011 - 06:08pm PT
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2011 - 06:12pm PT
I have mixed feelings about that one...
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jul 3, 2011 - 06:36pm PT
My vote is for an ongoing tasteful and tasty tata thread.

If I wasn't technologically crippled, and married, I'd start it myself.


And, by the way, the collective prudishness of the climbing community, or at least those who control its media, has always disappointed me.

Remember the reaction to the Riki Ishoy (sorry if mis spelt) shot on the climbing mag cover?

To quote weschrist - "pathetic".


Is it the fact that most climber girls are, let's say....streamlined?
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2011 - 06:52pm PT
Billions of potential offspring died a tragic, lanolin soaked death because of Rikki.


RIP my little ones
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Jul 3, 2011 - 07:32pm PT
What!

Bullshit!

Those were some awesome tittys..
Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:11pm PT
Guys, there's respecting human anatomy and there's disrespecting. Who the hay doesn't appreciate such things? But honestly, Jiggy, are you really having trouble understanding why it is that Management doesn't support your own personal version of wet t-shirt night on the ST and kills your stupid thread? And we didn't run crying to anyone. Frankly, if it was a classy breast thread, it likely wouldn't have gone anywhere.
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:18pm PT


White bread, mashed potatoes, and salisbury steak...




Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:20pm PT
You're back!! You really didn't miss anything. Goatboy has captured it for the most part.
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:21pm PT


If it was tame...

it was LAME!!!...


;-)


weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2011 - 08:22pm PT
what's not classy about it?



whose thread was it anyway?
Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:25pm PT
It was yours, JakRag. It's no wonder you have relationship problems. LOL! The way you obviously view women translates into treating them like crap. I guess you grew up that way, but that's no excuse now that you're trying to be a grown up. Knot trying very hard. That's for sure.
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:26pm PT


...

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:40pm PT
I also view women as objects. Soft, squishy ones that are fun to throw stuff at and dress in silly outfits.


thanks, locker. Lack of self control = nuked thread. Fun while it lasted.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:44pm PT
That's what I'm talkin about, LOCKER

I hear ya GDavis,

BUT REALLY

Is that SO WRONG?



Good taste means different things to different people....
Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:48pm PT
Good taste means different things to different people....

Funny how obvious bad taste seems to be on the ST. JR prides himself in being such an arbiter.
treez

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:49pm PT
I just last week had to explain to my eleven year old step-son why wearing an "i love boobies" bracelet made him look like a douchebag.
Pate

Trad climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:51pm PT
this is the best thread the taco has seen in a long long time.



busty nun countdown commences.......




btw, locker, that girl's panties are Ps'd on I think. weird.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:52pm PT
Nothing wrong with naked people. I have nothing against posting naked good looking dudes on this thread either. Americans are overly sensitive about their sexuality, this goes both directions, men and women.

But yes, locker is retarded for posting something that is actually nudity, because regardless of if it offends me or not, for sure this thread will now be nuked. Its like, weed should be legal, but don't go blowing fatty puffs into a sheriffs face. your sh#t won't hold up bro.

mimi, if it offends you, don't click on it. it has tittys in the title. stop trying to be offended/be a martyr. take control of your own actions, there are other good threads that will take time to sift through, like Ed H's links to AAJ's.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:53pm PT
and for people "looking forward" to these threads... send me a private email, there's way more interesting sh#t on the internet than grainy .gifs of jiggly boobiez. Whoever sold you your rig at Fry's left out some knowledge.
treez

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:54pm PT
edit: Not to infer that I don't love "titties" or am not a douchebag sometimes.
Pate

Trad climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:54pm PT
^^post up a pic of your manmaries GDavis if you've got no problem with big nekkked titties.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:55pm PT
McNamara approves of this thread.

Pate

Trad climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:55pm PT
that pen is a phallus.
Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:55pm PT
GDavis, based on your posts, you're exactly why I'm bothering to speak up. It's guys like you that prove sexism remains strong and prevalent in America. But then again, you're an Old Testament kind of guy, aren't you?
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:57pm PT

Pate

Trad climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 08:58pm PT
is it chilly in here?
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:07pm PT
ut then again, you're an Old Testament kind of guy, aren't you?

No. Not at all. I think sexuality should be celebrated. You seem to think otherwise. To each his own, I would say, however you appear to want to tell others to think you're way. Who is old testament?

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:10pm PT


I'm sure Thiago has no problem if you objectify him, just like women who pose for bikini shots don't care either.


And Goddamn, I wouldn't blame you. That sh#t is beautiful.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:15pm PT
I am pro Tittay .. anti blue butt plug.

does that mean I am a conservative or a liberal?









might need to maintain some sort of non proliferation on other threads treaty.


SexistMoosay..
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:15pm PT



"^^post up a pic of your manmaries GDavis if you've got no problem with big nekkked titties."...

~~~ Pate...








































































"Nothing wrong with naked people. I have nothing against posting naked good looking dudes"...

~~~ GDavis...


















Well there you have it...

LOL!!!...

"Retard"...

;-)

The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:19pm PT
Is locker's photo somehow unacceptable compared to our buddy Dean's Stone Nudes calendar?

I'm asking anyone who might be offended by the former, but not the latter.


Hmmm...

form

former

formest


If so, explain why



eKat

Trad climber
RuralFrikkenMontana
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:22pm PT
Kevin. . . didn't you mean:

firm

firmer

firmest

?

:-)
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:23pm PT
bwahahahaha...

Ekat with the win..
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:24pm PT
I was thinking firm too, Kathy, how'd you know.


Also thinking latte
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:24pm PT
I would guess people will be offended by both.

One is art, the other is art... both depend on one's interpretation. I could see Lockers as just being softcore porn, its not really 'arty,' but the same could be said for stone nudes. Either way, its just a persons body. We all have one. Best to keep it in threads that are labeled, like with tittys in the title or something, so that those who might get offended don't accidentally click on it. Who knows why people think the way they do but it doesn't mean we have carte blanch on offending them, just like we shouldn't call out all muslims for believing in fairy tales or some such thing. Just rude, ya know?

Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:26pm PT
GDavis, no, ahole, it's all about the intent and presentation. How f*#king clueless are you? Nevermind, we already know.

"No. Not at all. I think sexuality should be celebrated. You seem to think otherwise. To each his own, I would say, however you appear to want to tell others to think you're way. Who is old testament?"

Nope. Like I said, clueless.
eKat

Trad climber
RuralFrikkenMontana
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:26pm PT
I'm asking anyone who might be offended by the former, but not the latter.


I'm not offended by either of them. . . but they evoke completely different emotions.

BoWinkle's seems innocent and beautiful - like the gal really is just out bouldering, stark raving naked. The one locker posted seems cheap and staged; removing it, by leaps and bounds, from the realm of art.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:29pm PT
Some pics of titties are ART. You are not allowed to grow a tent in your pants over art. Just not cool. Shame, really.

bro you never seen a good rembrandt.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:30pm PT
The question is:


Who cares if a few people are offended?


some climbers are offended by bolts.

others by runouts

some by long approaches

some by loose holds and vegetation

some by guidebooks others by topos without enough info


GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:30pm PT
GDavis, no, ahole, it's all about the intent and presentation. How f*#king clueless are you? Nevermind, we already know.



Free your mind.


mimi, I'm sure you are a nice person. Honestly. But you are looking to pick fights. This is irrational thinking.

Do not look for opportunities to get offended. If you excercise more, eat healthier, think objectively about different aspects of life (why do I respond a certain way to some things, how do I impact others) you will not be looking to pick fights, like clicking on a thread titled "big tit lover appreciation thread" and whacking old dudes on the knuckles with a ruler.
eKat

Trad climber
RuralFrikkenMontana
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:32pm PT
And. . . the one locker posted seems like porn, whereas BoWinkle's does not.

Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:33pm PT
Kevin, bullshit on that. It is important who would be offended.

It's the principle, for crying out loud. This isn't PC BS. I'm amazed at how this mindset is still so rigid today with supposed intelligent people.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:34pm PT
So hatin on people is cool. But tittays are not.





SexistMoosay
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:34pm PT
It is important who would be offended.


Did you read this that I wrote?

best to keep it in threads that are labeled, like with tittys in the title or something, so that those who might get offended don't accidentally click on it. Who knows why people think the way they do but it doesn't mean we have carte blanch on offending them, just like we shouldn't call out all muslims for believing in fairy tales or some such thing. Just rude, ya know?
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:37pm PT
Let's start to define "ART" now.

That should be interesting


Warhol vs Picasso


Which is art?

Rap vs Classical


with a good dose of photos this thread could have legs

Can I say that? Or is that a sexual reference?
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:38pm PT
Actually, as a youngster, all of those mammaries in art were pretty good until I found a penthouse in a ditch. My fellow 13 year olds kept the pics in a burried mason jar in the woods.

this is like a universal thing. how many guys learned sex from finding porn in the woods in middle school? Thanks to our society this is 'sex ed.' sigh.

Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:40pm PT
Yes, I read that. So what.

The problem with the thread that got deleted is, if you are a self-respecting woman or young girl and you roll in here for the first time and see it at the top of the page, you're going to be disgusted. Go somewhere else for a wet t-shirt contest. The Management clearly reserves the right to pass on dousing their female patrons just to keep a small subset of you clowns happy.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:41pm PT
self-respecting woman.....you're going to be disgusted

if you click on it.

The title said "big tit lover appreciation thread."

sounds like those girls might have a dirty mind ;D


Do you go into strip clubs and lambast them? but they are on public streets.

It got nuked, no harm no foul. I'm not saying that I think the thread has a place. But to be offended by it because you knowingly clicked on a thread that was appropriately titled is you looking for a fight.

now stop name calling, its unbecoming.

p.s. .... I don't think ekat and happiegirrl said they were disgusted. Are they not self respecting women?
eKat

Trad climber
RuralFrikkenMontana
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:41pm PT
I think art is the human expression of authenticity.
Port

Trad climber
San Diego
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:43pm PT
Dont like a thread? Dont click on it...
The user formerly known as stzzo

Social climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:43pm PT
Locker









nails








it.





That pic is nudity, but it's definitely not porn - IMO, of course. Pure, non-porn nudity is over-banned.

So what if this thread gets nuked? Post some non-porn male nude shots while we're at it.

anyone tried this for forearm strengthening?

There's a hilarious SouthPark episode on those things.
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:43pm PT
Small breasted women need love to.
Port

Trad climber
San Diego
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:44pm PT
Art is also in the eye of the beholder.
Captain...or Skully

climber
or some such
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:46pm PT
Arrrggh. Help! I've got Art in my eye!!3!!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:46pm PT
Small breasted women need love to.


I'll take that job! I find them to be very sexy.
Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:48pm PT
GDavis, how about working a little harder yourself on this one. Don't have to click on it? That's a cop out line.

eKat, can be, but it can also be a rehash of the same old crap.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:49pm PT
Arguing with you is going nowhere, you seem set to be offended by things that are clearly easily avoidable.

In the face of reason lies a mountain of stubborn tradition, so reason just runs around the other side.
Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:52pm PT
Ha, if I hadn't had the very same attitude as you before I was schooled on sexism, I wouldn't be hammering on you so hard. It is a blind mindset that takes an effort to overcome because it's so engrained in our society.

And posting pics of naked guys is not the answer. LOL!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:54pm PT
Lighten up, people/

A Gdavis/Mimi slapdown could be a classic, but lets holdoff for a while
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:54pm PT

"And posting pics of naked guys is not the answer."...

Thank GUD!!!...





EDITED:

"A Gdavis/Mimi slapdown could be a classic"...

I'm betting on Mimi...

The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:55pm PT
Can we just retitle this thread The Male Chauvinist Refuge thread, or The Disgusting Titty Appreciation thread or something so's we don't offend anyone?
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jul 3, 2011 - 09:57pm PT
I hear the woman in locker's photo saying:

"Hey, check THESE out!"
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:01pm PT

Nothing like a large glass of PRUDE juice to make one feel superior...

;-)

Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:02pm PT
hahaha! Kevin, that would have been much better. I have to say, I'd have been more reluctant to dive in. Not that I wouldn't have posted a cheery be-aware-of-sexism spiel of some sort.

I actually had no problem with Locker's photo. I don't happen to view it as degrading.

Mark, isn't it how they're presented? A certain maturity level, perhaps.
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:05pm PT
this thread (as well as the other) are offensive. I will continually check back on it just to see how offensive it is.
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:16pm PT


photo not found
Missing photo ID#208024
...





The user formerly known as stzzo

Social climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:17pm PT
And posting pics of naked guys is not the answer. LOL!

Well, I didn't mean to say it was an answer to sexism.

But, an act of acknowledging the equality of the sexes and treating everyone with the same amount of respect is a step toward reducing sexism, I'd say. I also have little idea what your position is on this, because I haven't read the thread fully.

My nude-pics-of-guys suggestion was to acknowledge the women and homesexual men on the forum as equals, welcome their preferences and interests to the thread, and indiscriminately oppose unhealthy prudeness; it was not to suggest that objectifying men makes the objectification of women OK...
Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:25pm PT
WTH stzzo, what a delightful viewpoint. Sheesh. Not sure what to say about this one. Gee, thanks.

"My nude-pics-of-guys suggestion was to acknowledge the women and homesexual men on the forum as equals,..."
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:28pm PT


In my 100% HONEST opinion too many people make WAY too big of a deal out of nudity...

It is simply NOT something to get bugged about UNLESS you are a PRUDE...

Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:31pm PT
Locker, to a certain extent. Despite my protests, I know I don't fall into the prude category. The aggravation wasn't over mere nudity.
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:35pm PT
Small breasted women need love two. to a certain extent..
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:35pm PT


Mimi...

I am not singling out anyone in particular...

I am speaking in general...

locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:37pm PT


" The aggravation wasn't over mere nudity."...

I obviously missed all the fun...

What then IS your aggravation about and what the hell happened???...

Did someone go over the line towards "Blue Butt Plugville"???...

Why did the other thread get nuked (Nuke-U-lored as Bush might have said)...

Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:39pm PT
Thanks Locker. I hope you didn't consider me one.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:39pm PT
Looks like having it both ways has yet to get in the way of tradition...

Credit: Abby Hoffmann
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:41pm PT


"Thanks Locker. I hope you didn't consider me one."...

Honestly, until you brought it up, it hadn't crossed my mind...

;-)
The user formerly known as stzzo

Social climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:41pm PT
Late to the party, I know.

But I'll opine here:

My impression is that Mimi doesn't mean so much to point out that the [other] thread was offensive, but more to point out that the existence of the thread was offensive.

This seems to be the crux of the debate btwn "Just don't click on it" and "No ahole, you don't get the big picture."

That's my Zinfindel-infused $.02.
Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:42pm PT
Awesome stzzo, you nailed it.

Locker edit: It was mostly me colliding with Wesley again. That's what started it as I recall. And then I had to jump on the death-to-sexism soapbox due to some real boneheads on here. All you really missed were several pairs of jiggling mammaries.
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:44pm PT


"All you really missed were several pairs of jiggling mammaries."...

With age...

soon enough I will have "Male jiggling mammaries"...

As it stands, my nuts are hanging lower than when I was 20...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF_Yaai_Cps

The user formerly known as stzzo

Social climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:46pm PT
As it stands, my nuts are hanging lower than when I was 20

In some cultures, this is a symbol of wisdom and power...

Yes?
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:46pm PT
I still don't know why its sexist to enjoy pictures of womens breast. I understand that it could easily turn into objectification, but the same is true of the male body.
apogee

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:47pm PT
ST'ers just love to rant about 'oppression' and 'freedom of speech' on threads like these. Like there's some big conspiratorial oppressive big brother out there keepin' the little guy down. I don't know if that kind of thinking is more victim-oriented, or completely ignorant/naive.

This is a commercial website, with a forum that was created to support the website's goals and interests. Those goals have a whole lot more to do with climbing than they do with tatas, politics, or wolves. The fact that most of those topics are allowed at all is pretty impressive, and speaks to the understanding that the owners have that climbers hold pretty broad, unrestrained interests.

If you really think there is an internet big brother who is squashing all of your brilliance here at ST, there's some nice land in Area 51 I'd like to show you...
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:49pm PT


"In some cultures, this is a symbol of wisdom and power...

Yes?"
...



When you can tie your nuts into a figure eight you become KING...

Mimi

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:49pm PT
Locker, and you missed this gem. Ed seemed to enjoy it too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FEL4nfSscU
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:50pm PT

mammatocumulus
The user formerly known as stzzo

Social climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:50pm PT
I still don't know why its sexist to enjoy pictures of womens breast.

It's not.

It's sexist to objectify women. Pictures of women's breasts often are a symptom of objectification.

Yes, the same holds true for the male body. It's just that objectification of men is not as prevalent as is objectification of women, and -- since men hold a great deal of power in our society -- not as damaging as is the objectification of women.
apogee

climber
Jul 3, 2011 - 10:55pm PT
"It's sexist to objectify women. Pictures of women's breasts often are a symptom of objectification."

So where's the line between art and objectification? Bullwinkle's hardbodies are certainly more towards art, but any honest male would admit they are reaaaallllly fun to look at, too.
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 3, 2011 - 11:00pm PT


As a photographer...

for many years I worked very HARD trying to get what most would consider porn to come across as art...

I never succeeded but it was one hell of a lot of FUKING fun trying...

;-)





John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jul 3, 2011 - 11:05pm PT
It's sexist to objectify women.

Thanks Stzzo, I was going to debate this, but after looking at one of the definitions of sexism, ie. attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles, I realized that objectification leads to a stereotype that women are only good for sex.

thanks for the help in understanding.



But I still like pictures of womens breasts.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Jul 3, 2011 - 11:39pm PT
It's all Pates fault. His big trout appreciation thread was the model for the indiscretion. Somewhere along the line things got fuzzy and all hell broke loose. But it was fun, wasn't it?
The user formerly known as stzzo

Social climber
Jul 4, 2011 - 12:03am PT
"It's sexist to objectify women. Pictures of women's breasts often are a symptom of objectification."

So where's the line between art and objectification? Bullwinkle's hardbodies are certainly more towards art, but any honest male would admit they are reaaaallllly fun to look at, too.

I think Moosie's post above sheds some light on this.

But also, the definition of objectification (pulled at random from the internet):

Sexual objectification refers to the practice of regarding or treating another person merely as an instrument (object) towards one's sexual pleasure, and a sex object is a person who is regarded simply as an object of sexual gratification or who is sexually attractive.

Here's my perspective, for whatever it's worth...

Art:

She is a beautiful woman.

Objectification:

She is a beautiful woman whose purpose is to please men.

Art:

I enjoy the breasts, and I hope she was a fully-willing, non-drugged volunteer for this photo.

Objectification:

I enjoy the breasts, and am more interested in a photo of her breasts than whether or not she really wanted to pose for this photo.


The difference can be subtle, but it boils down to intent and the underlying suggesting that the woman is a play toy.

You, personally, may not believe that the woman is a play toy. In this case, your viewing the picture is not the problem.

The problem is the intent of the picture's publisher and the other men who are viewing the picture, funding the distribution of the picture and the treatment of the women during the creation of the picture, and the sh#t-talking about the piece-of-ass and other pieces-of-ass that ensues from the picture.

In other words: the problem is the spirit in which the picture was created and any attitudes toward women that are fostered by picture's existence.

Some perspective might be found in the details of the sex trade, sex slavery, etc.

Think about it from another angle... Between these two options:

 A woman wants to marry you for your money.
 A woman wants to marry you because she likes you, thinks you're a wonderful person, and enjoys your company.

Which do you prefer? Which makes you feel more acknowledged and respected?

That's an example of objectification: Treating a man solely as the object who funds the woman's existence.

But I still like pictures of womens breasts.

I do, too. Many believe that this pleasure is hardwired into us, to drive us to reproduce. Pleasure isn't harmful; unless it's at someone else's sacrifice...
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Jul 4, 2011 - 08:10am PT
Mimi, I thought you believed in the invisible hand on the, uhm, err, "market"
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 4, 2011 - 08:23am PT

"thanks, locker. Lack of self control = nuked thread."...


"locker is retarded for posting ... for sure this thread will now be nuked."...





Maybe you should count yer tit's before you shoot yer mouth off...



MisterE

Social climber
Bouldering the Gnar
Jul 4, 2011 - 08:26am PT
Here's a nice pair of tits:

locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 4, 2011 - 08:28am PT


Hey!!!...

Two TITS...

Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jul 4, 2011 - 08:29am PT
Nice tits Mr. E.
Pate

Trad climber
Jul 4, 2011 - 08:46am PT
this thread is now lacking in the tittay, although there is plenty of bitch......
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jul 4, 2011 - 09:11am PT
Credit: nails on a blackboard
Credit: age appropriate
photo not found
Missing photo ID#208049

locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 4, 2011 - 09:13am PT


"I also view women as objects. Soft, squishy ones that are fun to throw stuff at and dress in silly outfits."...















































You SURE about that???...














































photo not found
Missing photo ID#208052
...


pleasantOs

Trad climber
Jul 4, 2011 - 10:08am PT
I don't know what you all are writing about, but thanks for posting the cool and strange pics of boobies for me to look at as I scroll through the dribble!
eKat

Trad climber
RuralFrikkenMontana
Jul 4, 2011 - 10:10am PT
ummmmmm. . . that would be DRIVEL. . . jess sayin'!
pleasantOs

Trad climber
Jul 4, 2011 - 10:12am PT
drivel as i dribble?! ha! bad and wrong~!
bergbryce

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jul 4, 2011 - 10:13am PT
Penthouses found in ditch!
Now this thread is going somewhere.
Where was that ditch, btw?
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Jul 4, 2011 - 10:19am PT
I absolutely want women to lust after me for my money.


I will accept them lusting after me for my body.


If they must, they can lust after my intellect, but that's definitely no better than a poor third.



Any lust at all is ok, though.









I like titties. I am told its because I am wired that way. My cord hangs long. All that is too deep for me. I am just happy to be a screaming hetrosexual.

Is that so bad?




If the first post is all that is gone, maybe it was self deleted to provide fodder for this opus?

The big OP in the sky has no lack in his abilities to actually REMOVE a thread, not just delete the first post...
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jul 4, 2011 - 04:53pm PT
Captain...or Skully

climber
or some such
Jul 4, 2011 - 05:01pm PT
Oh, Goatboy. What Hast Thou Wrought?
Hehehe.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jul 4, 2011 - 05:40pm PT
Art!

I love art!

From the Naples Museum of History.  Egyptian Goddess Isis.  I think it...
From the Naples Museum of History. Egyptian Goddess Isis. I think it was dug out of a temple dedicated to fertility in the ruins of Pompei. It stands about 8' high, and is slightly overwhelming to an art fan.
Credit: Fritz
Dr. F.

climber
So Cal
Jul 4, 2011 - 07:47pm PT
What about painted tits?

Is that OK
or not
Credit: Dr. F.





How about extra tight blouses?
Credit: Dr. F.
Dr. F.

climber
So Cal
Jul 4, 2011 - 07:51pm PT
Are these painted, or is she an alien?
Credit: Dr. F.

How about a painted ass?
Credit: Dr. F.

i love art!
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 4, 2011 - 09:44pm PT



SLIGHTLY edited???...

...

LOL!!!...
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jul 4, 2011 - 09:48pm PT
Woah locker, that image of me is extremely inappropriate. I want it taken down immediately, I WILL contact the webmaster.
































You KNOW I'm a boxer guy! WTH!!!
bergbryce

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jul 4, 2011 - 10:39pm PT
Goatboy, last pic = hardest laugh EVER generated at the taco stand.
Hilarious.
Mimi

climber
Jul 4, 2011 - 10:45pm PT
Don't you be disrespecting these puppies!

Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 4, 2011 - 10:46pm PT
Locker doesn't care, G.
gf

climber
Jul 4, 2011 - 10:51pm PT
ah mimi-don't slap me but the first thought that came to my mind was "those doggies look like they could use a bone" -okay, okay, as ms knight says, I'll go sit in the car
Mimi

climber
Jul 4, 2011 - 10:54pm PT
Don't you go anywhere....hawhaw
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 4, 2011 - 10:55pm PT


...

Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 4, 2011 - 10:56pm PT
"A breast without a nipple is just a lump of fat". -FRANK ZAPPA
Credit: Blitzo
Mimi

climber
Jul 4, 2011 - 11:00pm PT
Alright, for all you guys that can't get enough. For whatever reason.












































Hey Jiggy, aka JR! Does this get it done for ya?
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jul 4, 2011 - 11:00pm PT
Credit: Little Red Riding Hood
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 4, 2011 - 11:05pm PT


...

locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 4, 2011 - 11:07pm PT


Enough with the TITS...

Let's see some PUSSY!!!...





















































...

Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 4, 2011 - 11:17pm PT
Pussy.
Pussy.
Credit: Blitzo
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jul 4, 2011 - 11:32pm PT
Mardi Gras
Mardi Gras
Credit: the internet
Mimi

climber
Jul 4, 2011 - 11:42pm PT
Hahaha, David. That is a really good one. The one I posted was supposedly from Mardi Gras too.

Here you go, Locker. Some extremely pissed off pussy.

Mimi

climber
Jul 4, 2011 - 11:53pm PT
Sorry, I know it's the wrong holiday but I wouldn't want to spoil an Easter thread with this one.

Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 4, 2011 - 11:54pm PT
Doesn't anyone have anything better to do at this late hour?
Has locker been kicked off yet?
Mimi

climber
Jul 5, 2011 - 12:00am PT
No, I'm trying to out-do him. Ain't nobody here but us titties. And with that, GUD night Blitzo!
gf

climber
Jul 5, 2011 - 12:20am PT
Mimi, you are likely outdoing the troops since your posts display a certain wit with the tit, the competition is somewhat limp in comparison.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jul 5, 2011 - 06:28am PT
LOL!
Mimi, you are likely outdoing the troops since your posts display a certain wit with the tit, the competition is somewhat limp in comparison.
Zinnnng!

I knew you all could steer this thread someplace of interest and sickness - after all Weschris, these pictures are all over the internet, no real need to start a thread is there? LOL!

Thanks all.

BTW, this is so true it's damn sad, one of the reasons TV in the US sucks so bad: Weschris also said:
I could post a picture of bloody children dying in the streets and it would stay up indefinitely.
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 08:12am PT
It warms my heart to see you all, especially Mimi, embrace the topic!

philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Jul 5, 2011 - 08:16am PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#195881
ddriver

Trad climber
SLC, UT
Jul 5, 2011 - 08:20am PT
Fritz, I'll see your Isis and raise you an Artemisia/Diana from Turkey.

Credit: ddriver

This one from Ephesus. Pretty much same as yours 'cept for the face and hands.
FortMental

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Jul 5, 2011 - 08:26am PT
Human climbers are so provincial.....



.....EXPAND your horizons!

philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Jul 5, 2011 - 08:28am PT
I dream of Genie...



photo not found
Missing photo ID#188223
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 5, 2011 - 08:58am PT

Philo GOT's "Cred"!!!...


...


;-)




mooch

Trad climber
Old Climbers' Home (Adopted)
Jul 5, 2011 - 09:17am PT


guido has mad "CRED"...
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 5, 2011 - 09:19am PT


Those tit's are CLOSE to PERFECT!!!...

;-)

weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 09:20am PT
CLOSE? I suppose the only thing that makes them less than PERFECT is their unknown location some distance from my mouf.
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 5, 2011 - 09:54am PT
Yeah! I know...

But I chose "CLOSE" because right about the time I'd say they ARE perfect...

no doubt someone WOULD post another (Hopefully!!!) that are even BETTER (Would be DIFFICULT however)...

Dr. F.

climber
So Cal
Jul 5, 2011 - 10:06am PT
Cmac must be on Vacation
because this thread just keeps getting better

Go posters, lets go all out, to see how far we can go!!!

I will just have sit back and enjoy the show since i'm at work, and will not be able to do my research to find the best stuff to post

check out fittness nude.com!!, there are 1000s of perfect shots for this thread
Its a great place to do research
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 5, 2011 - 10:09am PT


"Go posters, lets go all out, to see how far WE can go!!!

I will just have sit back and enjoy the show since i'm at work"
...




That sort of leaves the WE out of the equation does it not???...
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jul 5, 2011 - 10:16am PT
BWAH - HAHAHAHA ! ! !
Credit: The Vikings
apogee

climber
Jul 5, 2011 - 10:22am PT
Nice hubcaps...
Dr. F.

climber
So Cal
Jul 5, 2011 - 10:25am PT
I posted on the last page, did I not!

WE, yes
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 10:44am PT

sorry!

weeeeee
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 5, 2011 - 11:30am PT
Credit: Reilly
ncrockclimber

climber
NC
Jul 5, 2011 - 02:04pm PT
Calling Pate! Calling Pate!

This thread needs some nuns in latex.
sportcamper

Trad climber
NEW HAMPSHIRE
Jul 5, 2011 - 02:33pm PT
um, Mooch wins. hands down.

edit: seriously.
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 5, 2011 - 02:38pm PT

"lets go all out, to see how far we can go!!!"...

"I posted on the last page, did I not!

WE, yes"
...




LOL!!!...

Yer really PUSHING that envelope...

CMac will PROBABLY have to deactivate yer account...

;-)
mooch

Trad climber
Old Climbers' Home (Adopted)
Jul 5, 2011 - 02:42pm PT
Thanks sportcamper but the credits go to guido. He assigned her as support from the first Castle Rock Spire 'Polynesian Ascent' last year. What a great lei!

Support for Mount Fuji?

sportcamper

Trad climber
NEW HAMPSHIRE
Jul 5, 2011 - 02:43pm PT
ok then, respect to guido......but....

THANKS for reposting!
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 5, 2011 - 02:44pm PT


...


weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 02:45pm PT
Mooch, that just ain't right. Have you no sense of proportion?
sportcamper

Trad climber
NEW HAMPSHIRE
Jul 5, 2011 - 02:47pm PT
locker....

WWWWOOOOWWWW!


why have i stayed away from ST for so long?????
mooch

Trad climber
Old Climbers' Home (Adopted)
Jul 5, 2011 - 02:47pm PT
What can I say?......size matters.
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 02:57pm PT
anything more than a mouthful is a waste

Weld_it

Trad climber
Chatsworth
Jul 5, 2011 - 03:00pm PT
^^^^

FACT: TITS NICE, HERPEES BAD LOL
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 03:02pm PT
Totally missed that! Sh#t, she could have had a mustache and I wouldn't have noticed.
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 5, 2011 - 03:11pm PT


"Duh!!!!"...
...

locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 5, 2011 - 03:13pm PT




...























































Credit: locker
...

Mangy Peasant

Social climber
Riverside, CA
Jul 5, 2011 - 03:15pm PT
This thread suddenly went south.
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 5, 2011 - 03:21pm PT


;-)


The Schmutzvink

climber
The WAY past
Jul 5, 2011 - 03:29pm PT
westchrist said "anything more than a mouthful is a waste"

amen





Dr. F.

climber
So Cal
Jul 5, 2011 - 03:35pm PT
hey, Its the "The Schmutzvink"

Hey dude, first time I saw you here
post up some boobies
The Schmutzvink

climber
The WAY past
Jul 5, 2011 - 03:47pm PT
Dr. Fry,

Am a faux Schmutz. The head sheepbugger wanted to keep the name alive (since it looked like there would never be a Schmutz sighting ever again). We were all surprised when The Real Schmutz showed up to hand Roy his Benjamin at the '08 JT gathering. But never to be seen again.

weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 03:52pm PT
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 5, 2011 - 03:52pm PT


NOT a learned behavior...

Hardwired in...


...
The Schmutzvink

climber
The WAY past
Jul 5, 2011 - 04:01pm PT
better than rockclimbing

The Schmutzvink

climber
The WAY past
Jul 5, 2011 - 04:12pm PT
fav topic



let's see Mimi's?
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 5, 2011 - 04:29pm PT

Take the sexual aspect away from a womans body and you STILL have beautiful curves (there are of course ALWAYS exceptions)...

...

Bottom line...

WOMAN ARE ATTRACTIVE and THAT's a GUD thing!!!...

...



Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 5, 2011 - 04:45pm PT
Have a Beer!
Credit: Blitzo
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 04:49pm PT
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Jul 5, 2011 - 05:00pm PT
ONE

photo not found
Missing photo ID#208281








TWO














photo not found
Missing photo ID#208280






















Three...





































?
divad

Trad climber
wmass
Jul 5, 2011 - 05:07pm PT
I like 'em rock hard...

Credit: divad
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 05:10pm PT
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jul 5, 2011 - 06:35pm PT
Credit: Hef

Dr. F.

climber
So Cal
Jul 5, 2011 - 07:00pm PT
Dr. F

Am a faux Schmutz. The head sheepbugger wanted to keep the name alive (since it looked like there would never be a Schmutz sighting ever again). We were all surprised when The Real Schmutz showed up to hand Roy his Benjamin at the '08 JT gathering. But never to be seen again.

The Faux Schmutz, bummer
I partied w/ the real one w/ Roy in 08
and we climbed some bitd

I do like the what the Faux Schmutz has to post though
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jul 5, 2011 - 07:31pm PT
This thread has really developed while I was at work today!


Perfect timing with the heat of summer moving in
cavemonkey

Ice climber
ak
Jul 5, 2011 - 07:34pm PT
bump for mouthfuls of tittay's
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 07:36pm PT
kinnikinik

Trad climber
B.C.
Jul 5, 2011 - 07:38pm PT
finally, a thread with er...legs
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 5, 2011 - 07:45pm PT

Nice one Weschrist...


Dr. F.

climber
So Cal
Jul 5, 2011 - 07:59pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.
Credit: Dr. F.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jul 6, 2011 - 05:47am PT
Which one is Mimi?
Naitch

climber
Seneca area
Jul 6, 2011 - 06:11am PT
Daayum, someone did a nice paint job on that suit!
squishy

Mountain climber
sacramento
Jul 6, 2011 - 07:15am PT
please, less talking in here, more titties..
Pate

Trad climber
Jul 6, 2011 - 07:19am PT
this has become a humorous soft core porn thread.
Dr. F.

climber
So Cal
Jul 6, 2011 - 09:54am PT
Where'd the tittay's go?
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Jul 6, 2011 - 10:30am PT
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jul 6, 2011 - 10:46am PT
Too funny Off!

Goatboy- Let's see yours$$$$
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Jul 6, 2011 - 11:08am PT



mooch

Trad climber
Old Climbers' Home (Adopted)
Jul 6, 2011 - 12:06pm PT
Amazing what you can do with "more than a mouthful".

Baby oil 'slip and slide'. End of point.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jul 6, 2011 - 12:25pm PT
So many nuances surrounding casting these days...Trying to sell modular holds to the ST Stag Klub? Include threaded nipple inserts to cover the bolt holes and Caylor will certainly take a few...

Rudder

Trad climber
Long Beach, CA
Jul 6, 2011 - 12:34pm PT
Hey weschrist, that is Meriah Nelson with the sword.


Meriah/FLY FAN photo shoot
Meriah/FLY FAN photo shoot
Credit: Rudder
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2011 - 12:41pm PT
Good point mooch. I do miss that aspect, although my last slip and slide was DD and only mediocre. I'm quite happy with my current mini set.
Gene

climber
Jul 6, 2011 - 02:21pm PT
Presenting Miss Transportation Safety Administration - April 2011.






























Credit: Gene
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 6, 2011 - 04:11pm PT
Be afraid of middle-eastern women with implants. Be very afraid.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-pn-tsa-implants-20110706,0,7473541.story
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 6, 2011 - 04:19pm PT

What a dog!!!...
















































...


Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Jul 7, 2011 - 02:20am PT
Ah, what the hell. May as well post up one of my favorite pairs.

Keeley Hazell.
Keeley Hazell.
Credit: Vegasclimber
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Jul 7, 2011 - 12:05pm PT
Speaking of terrorist implants:







Muslim of the year winner.....
locker

Social climber
CO
Jul 7, 2011 - 12:07pm PT


"Ah, what the hell. May as well post up one of my favorite pairs."...



and might I say...

VERY GUD choice!!!...

;-)
Mark Not-circlehead

climber
Martinez, CA
Jul 11, 2011 - 05:07pm PT
No more tittay's?

Bump
Mimi

climber
Aug 21, 2011 - 07:15pm PT
Was doing a search and stumbled on this thread again. An ST classic.

Remember this one, Locker?
apogee

climber
Aug 21, 2011 - 07:23pm PT
Thanks for the boobie-bump, Mimi!
locker

Social climber
CO
Aug 21, 2011 - 07:25pm PT


"Remember this one, Locker?"...


Remember that noise that the Million Dollar man would make when he would jump over things???...

Sounded sort of like this...

Eda-BOING...

squishy

Mountain climber
sacramento
Aug 21, 2011 - 08:11pm PT
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Aug 22, 2011 - 10:32am PT
bumps for Mighty Hiker


Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Aug 22, 2011 - 11:03am PT
Credit: Ihateplastic
this just in

climber
north fork
Aug 22, 2011 - 11:20am PT
That's a good one Ihateplastic, never thought she was hot until now.

Edit: I've always thought marge was hot besides her voice. I'm gonna have to find a Jessica Rabbit photo now.
Credit: Internet
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 22, 2011 - 11:31am PT
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Aug 22, 2011 - 11:53am PT
Credit: Ihateplastic
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Aug 22, 2011 - 05:58pm PT


couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 22, 2011 - 08:25pm PT
http://standardmadness.com/columns/10-reasons-why-staring-at-your-cleavage-is-scientifically-justified

The science *cough*.....* cough* (with some superb pictures) behind this discourse.
Captain...or Skully

climber
or some such
Aug 22, 2011 - 08:42pm PT
Homan.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 22, 2011 - 09:04pm PT
What is art-----and what is porn?


Every fisher-being knows this one is art.

A Beauty by Monte Dolack.
A Beauty by Monte Dolack.
Credit: Fritz
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Aug 22, 2011 - 09:11pm PT
"Country Girl"
"Country Girl"
Credit: Mtnmun
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 30, 2011 - 08:44pm PT
Nice Mtmon.

Here ya go Mimi. LINK, full text below.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2011/08/29/why_lisa_belkin_is_wrong_to_condemn_college_girls_for_dressing_s.html




"Photo by Lisa Maree Williams/Getty Images

I have one strong desire that carries through life, which is that I never become one of those women who self-identifies as a feminist while conflating the problem of inequality with the non-problem of young women being sexual. Should I ever start assuming that young women who have sex are being had, or if I start hyperventilating about young women wearing miniskirts, I hope I at least have the good sense to give up the writing thing and go into real estate. A piece like Lisa Belkin's in the New York Times, where she conflates women having sex with men and actual social inequalities between college men and women, makes me cringe in embarrassment for the writer. Having the whole world look at you and wonder if you've truly forgotten what it's like to be young and horny is my version of the nightmare where you're speaking in public and you look down and realize you've peed yourself in front of everyone.

To make it all worse, Belkin has some very real concerns to go along with her hand-wringing about college women wearing skimpy clothes to attract male attention or that young men make raunchy jokes. Belkin is quite right to be upset that men still exert total control over the college social scene, and that young women feel they have to suck up to men or they won't have a social life at all. It is troubling that some of her students believe that women have too much power because women technically have the legal right to decline a sexual encounter (though that right isn't honored in the legal system the way it should be). But to illustrate her point by fussing over the fact that young people drink and young women like to show off skin misses the point completely. In a world with complete equality, young women would still wear teeny skirts and drink alcohol at parties, because these things are fun. Even more distressingly, Belkin conflates the problem of campus rape with the fact that young women like to look sexy, saying that the young women who wore sexy Halloween costumes to a Duke fraternity party "had mothers who attended more than one Take Back the Night March in their college days," as if being opposed to campus rape and being willing to wear sexy clothes are in opposition to each other. But as the organizers of Slutwalk know, that's absolutely false. In fact, you can and should argue that men can look at a woman wearing sexy clothes and think, "She wants to look sexy," and not, "She's asking to be violently assaulted."

To Belkin, the fact that women dance in their underwear at parties is part of the same pattern that caused a fraternity to circulate an email explaining that women aren't actually people, as if women could get their people status back by putting more clothes on. But I think that men are perfectly capable of being turned on by a woman dancing in her underwear while never forgetting that said woman has a family that loves her, a mind of her own, and ambitions that are equal to his. We don't allow men's sexuality to dehumanize them in our eyes. If a young man spends his weekends partying and flirting with women, and spends his time in the classroom pulling down As, we don't see that as a contradiction. The belief that female sexual expression is uniquely dehumanizing is a double standard, no matter how much you dress it up in feminist language. Instead of condemning young women for the length of their skirts, why not use that energy for condemning anyone who would think that a woman is lesser-than because she wears a miniskirt?

Again, it's a shame, because I do think Belkin makes some interesting points about how unfair campus life is to women, who don't get to share power over orchestrating campus social life. That women's relationships with each other are eroded by competing for male attention is a problem, as is that men get to make all the decisions about what to do for fun and the women are just expected to tag along. But these problems are complicated, and solutions aren't immediately evident. Plus, the solutions to them would require asking something of men, that they share power and treat women with respect. Asking something of men seems to be the big taboo in our culture, even sometimes among feminists. In contrast, scolding women about what they wear is easy, even if it's a red herring. "
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 30, 2011 - 09:02pm PT
good article couchmaster your posting it would seem to indicate that you're willing to at least thing of following through with it...

...when the author states in her last paragraph: "...men get to make all the decisions about what to do for fun and the women are just expected to tag along. But these problems are complicated, and solutions aren't immediately evident. Plus, the solutions to them would require asking something of men, that they share power and treat women with respect. Asking something of men seems to be the big taboo in our culture,..."

as it is here, the men get to make the decision that it is fun to post pictures of a woman's breasts... and that the women on the forum should tag along... are you willing to give that up and allow the women to determine what is fun, and tag along with them?

I doubt it...
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2011 - 09:15pm PT
Plus, the solutions to them would require asking something of men, that they share power and treat women with respect. Asking something of men seems to be the big taboo in our culture,..."

I think that stems from a difference in communication style. Most men I know like straight forward questions and straight forward answers to questions, save for the obvious and often over the edge sarcasm and exaggerated crassness from time to time. Most women I know appear to prefer intricately complex stories with admittedly meaningless details and often appear offended by the discussions typical of even the finest gentlemen.

as it is here, the men get to make the decision that it is fun to post pictures of a woman's breasts... and that the women on the forum should tag along...

Nobody ever said they "should" tag along. Luckily, they still have that choice... but I don't know why they choose not to...

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 30, 2011 - 09:20pm PT
exactly my point, Wes...
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Aug 30, 2011 - 09:33pm PT
my points too
socialclimber

Trad climber
CA
Aug 30, 2011 - 10:04pm PT
When did it become wrong to be obsessed with breast? I love breasts, unfortunately the ones that I love have been stolen by another man, he is about to turn two and his tenure with said breasts is terminal, none-the-less I have been banned from them for quite some time...

Is the harsh response to the worshipping of breasts some kind of admonishment about worshipping the wrong part of the body? Is there another part I am supposed to worship? The lower back has always been exceedingly enticing to me...

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Missing photo ID#215471

Charles
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Aug 30, 2011 - 10:17pm PT
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ruppell

climber
Aug 30, 2011 - 10:20pm PT
Yes a thread I don't have to read!!
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2011 - 10:20pm PT
Does loving this picture make me gay?

locker

Social climber
CO
Aug 30, 2011 - 10:29pm PT


"Where'd the tittay's go?"...
















































































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Missing photo ID#215473
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Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Sep 5, 2011 - 08:20am PT
found some more...


ec

climber
ca
Sep 6, 2011 - 10:05am PT
Touching 1,000 sets of...
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2011 - 10:16am PT
ec THAT is fuking awesome!

I'm going to try that...
this just in

climber
north fork
Sep 6, 2011 - 10:32am PT
I'm moving to Russia.
Tork

climber
Yosemite
Sep 6, 2011 - 11:09am PT
Now that's a job!!!!!
jstan

climber
Sep 6, 2011 - 11:19am PT
I'll never get to tell this story somewhere else, so here goes.

Once when my daughter was just months old my wife was nursing her while I sat on the other side of the room. Sated she stopped so I went over pretending I intended to push her aside. Seeing me coming she immediately went back at it. Then, the threat deflected, she turned and gave me a mischievous smile.

If I had had any doubt she would do well out in the world, this removed them. She had a great sense of humor.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Sep 6, 2011 - 04:33pm PT
That is hilarious, John!

John
Hankster

Social climber
Boulder
Sep 9, 2011 - 12:15pm PT
here they went.....to GREECE!!!!
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Missing photo ID#216653

caylor
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Sep 9, 2011 - 12:57pm PT
ec - can't believe I watched that whole thing. But it was just so ... weird. All the reactions (fake, real, and non-reactions) were so interesting. I couldn't pull myself away.

From an interview with the guy: "it was the tedious work with breasts, their owners and friends of the owner of the breasts. I saw the breasts in my dreams at night and the dreams came true at daylight. But certainly I didnt become a gay. I still love breasts."
FortMental

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Sep 9, 2011 - 01:24pm PT
Where's her spotter? Doesn't she need a spotter? Can I spot her? I'll spot her. Get out of my way, she needs me to be her spotter.
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 9, 2011 - 01:40pm PT
"Cup your hands when spotting. Dont stick your thumbs out because theyre easy to sprain."
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Sep 9, 2011 - 01:54pm PT
I always thought you were supposed to spot climbers like that with a classic volleyball bump hand position but with the thumbs slightly extended...

Credit: Ihateplastic

P.S. I STRONGLY sugest trimming the thumb nails first!
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 9, 2011 - 02:00pm PT
I have a vivid imagination for sounds... and the idea of volleyball spotting that naked woman was music to my ears.

couchmaster

climber
pdx
Sep 14, 2011 - 07:49am PT
checking in is all.
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2011 - 07:54am PT
If you scroll down so that only ~1/2 of Ih8plastic's pic shows up, it kinda looks like...
FortMental

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Sep 14, 2011 - 08:03am PT
Yep... that spotter got me thinking too....
Credit: FortMental


....be right back.
James Doty

Trad climber
Phoenix, Az.
Sep 14, 2011 - 09:01am PT
That's funny, you guys are f*#ked up.
James Doty

Trad climber
Phoenix, Az.
Sep 14, 2011 - 09:02am PT
That would be one nasty inner thigh area, usually one of my favorite places.
weschrist

Gym climber
left sac
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 16, 2011 - 11:01am PT
I assume silver likes blonds...

Silver

Big Wall climber
Nor Nev
Sep 16, 2011 - 11:27am PT
Wes I do thanks!

Yer UN BANNNED!

keep it clean though. No bowling pins or else....
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 16, 2011 - 12:44pm PT
better living through chemistry.

And that's all I have to say about THAT
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Sep 16, 2011 - 04:18pm PT
Tig Ol' Bitties ! !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90rHFreKjvs&feature=grec_index
dirtbag

climber
Aug 26, 2012 - 09:52pm PT
I support this.

Quote Here
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Some two dozen topless women protested in a New York City park on a hot, sweaty Sunday as part of what they called "National Go-Topless Day" to draw attention to inequality in topless rights between men and women.

http://news.yahoo.com/topless-day-york-seeks-equal-rights-bare-chests-205128580.html
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Aug 26, 2012 - 10:41pm PT
I miss Wes.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 15, 2012 - 12:10pm PT
Trand Old Getons...
Credit: Pcutler

and "Look, up in the sky...it's a basket of boobies!" "No, it's a cluster of cadillac bumper guards!" "No, they're Mammatus Clouds and it's gonna be raining C cup for days!" "I'll run & go tell the boys over at the Tittay Farm!"
Mammatus cloud formation, mostly C cup.
Mammatus cloud formation, mostly C cup.
Credit: Atlas of Weird Clouds
Sparky

Trad climber
vagabond movin on
Sep 15, 2012 - 02:50pm PT
Credit: Sparky

http://www.retronaut.co/2012/09/breast-washer-c-1930s/
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 18, 2012 - 06:38pm PT
http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbnid=PUIQ0-4bnZVfHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.supermegatrolled.com/just-dont-do-it/&docid=Dd-LzCXDU0TxlM&imgurl=http://supermegatrolled.com/img/just-don039t-do-it.jpg&w=460&h=298&ei=gq6AUIqZGubfiALJqIDIAw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=339&vpy=386&dur=6314&hovh=181&hovw=279&tx=150&ty=91&sig=105202683114495966179&page=1&tbnh=131&tbnw=202&start=0&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:19,s:0,i:129&biw=1280&bih=909
Norwegian

Trad climber
Placerville, California
Oct 18, 2012 - 08:40pm PT
bump those beligerant
rants of climbing antics off the
front page.

we worship femail flesh.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 18, 2012 - 08:55pm PT
Stick that finger in that crack,
There's not a chance you'll go back
To whatever it was you did before:
The climb's so sexy, you want more.

More more more more more more more.
Score Score Score Score Score Score Score.

T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Oct 18, 2012 - 08:56pm PT
Jimmy Russells

climber
Oct 18, 2012 - 10:56pm PT
Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Oct 19, 2012 - 01:54am PT
Good too see this one come back.

To counteract that shite in the post above (NSFW, obviously)


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GOclimb

Trad climber
Boston, MA
Oct 19, 2012 - 02:01pm PT
Everyone knows the tittay's have power. I just learned that they have political power! I had never heard of Ukrainian Femen before. They're on the news at the moment for a set of protests they're doing in France to bring attention to rape in Tunisia.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/oct/03/femen-topless-protest-tunisian-woman-video

Go them!

GO
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 8, 2012 - 07:50am PT
By consensus, Miss Christmas 2012.

XXXmas Carole.

Stuff these in a stocking? No way!

Credit: mouse from merced

Kumbaya, folks!
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Nov 9, 2012 - 12:38pm PT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Nov 9, 2012 - 12:49pm PT




DMT
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 9, 2012 - 12:55pm PT
Oh, they're so hard!
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Nov 9, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
Yes, breast implants get a bad rap from the ignorant.

DMT
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Nov 9, 2012 - 01:35pm PT
If I can feel them, they must be real.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Nov 9, 2012 - 01:44pm PT
Here's a little kiss for y'all. All natural baby.

Credit: zBrown
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 9, 2012 - 02:41pm PT
Why is it that there seem to be a good number of old goats floating around this thread?
Credit: mouse from merced
Oh would you look at those! Er, that.

zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Nov 9, 2012 - 08:59pm PT
BaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH!

zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Nov 9, 2012 - 09:00pm PT
Los Tres Major Amigos - STFU mouse

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 9, 2012 - 10:00pm PT
A guy gets your goat and what do you say?

See how you are?

I'm sorry, that's scaring my niece!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 25, 2012 - 06:01pm PT
What a way to go!

http://elitedaily.com/elite/2012/man-escapes-death-wife-suffocate-motorboating-face-38dd-breasts/
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Nov 25, 2012 - 07:55pm PT
Credit: Leni Riefenstahl
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 25, 2012 - 10:17pm PT
I just can't get over her expression. She laid on the bottom of Aboukir Bay
off Alexandria lo these past 1700 years. I guess it is nice to be out and about.

Credit: Reilly
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jan 25, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
huh what?

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