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lucho

Trad climber
California
Jun 28, 2011 - 07:16pm PT
All I can say is Dan is the Man! Im thankful there are still some of the oldschoolers around to hang and be an inspiration to the youth. Thanks Dan!
aspendougy

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jun 28, 2011 - 07:34pm PT
Hi Ron,

Thank you for your sincere reply. I agree that standards are needed, but my point was, once a stray bolt is in here and there on a route, better to leave 'em in, even if the bolt didn't belong there in the first place.


If it is vital to a person's values to do it as a traditional climb, do it but if a person wants to do it as a bolted sport climb, let 'em and leave 'em alone!! There was a time where I couldn't afford gear, and I was grateful for bolts.

The route belongs to the 1st acensionist, but the rock doesn't.

I am a political libertarian and it extends to climbing for me.

I remember when Royal Robbins went up to chop on Wall of Early Morning, then he decided he had better ways to spend his time, I respect him so much for being honest about it.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jun 28, 2011 - 07:41pm PT
If it is vital to a person's values to do it as a traditional climb, do it but if a person wants to do it as a bolted sport climb, let 'em and leave 'em alone!!

Again, couldn't disagree more - the "just don't clip'em" meme is so weak as to be bankrupt.
the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Jun 28, 2011 - 07:52pm PT
Rox- pretty sure most of us posting here have never published a guide book. in fact if this post bugs you so much, i suggest you turn off your computer and go climb.
Coz is right - putting up FA is fun, that is why i do it..
Todd is right as well.

Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Jun 28, 2011 - 08:05pm PT
Thanks for the heads up McD. Might be nice to put the info on the Mtn Proj descriptions for the routes, since we've been waiting for a new/updated Valley guide for many, many, many, many years and it would suck to show up with a rack of draws and find the bolts gone.

As for the other blah blah blah on here, who cares what a bunch of armchair wankers think. 98% of you don't even climb off the sofa.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Jun 28, 2011 - 08:07pm PT
Dan,
Any chance you can post some names of the affected routes here?
Thanks!

drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Jun 28, 2011 - 08:52pm PT
rox
"Abuses to the priveledge of climbing"

Hogwash!
Pass the Chongo, Chongo

Social climber
love, trust, and T*Rs nuts!
Jun 28, 2011 - 08:59pm PT
HEY ROXJOX:

GO F*#K YOUR SELF,,, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT AN EGO DRIVEN F*#K HEAD,,, YOU F*#KING DIP SH#T,,, F*#K YOU AND YOURE WOLVES YOU F*#KING CUNT<<<!!!!!

MCDIVETT:

KEEP IT UP,,, EVERYONE LOVES YOUR ROUTES,,, BOLTS OR NOT,,, THEY ARE FINE, WELL THOUGHT OUT ROUTES, THAT ARE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE VALLEY,,,

THANKS!!!!!!!!!

-PTCc
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Jun 28, 2011 - 11:38pm PT
You're just off-base on this thread Rox

Dan has climbed many new notable walls, not to mention countless crag routes in Yosemite without publishing or announcing squat about it!

Your sounding like a guy about the carnivorous excesses of white-tailed deer

Dan is giving the community a heads up on his plans. Great! I'm not a particular advocate of these new steps but I think he's doing it the right way. Kudos

Peace

Karl
bergbryce

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jun 28, 2011 - 11:58pm PT
FACT: Roxy found a job as one of those paid agitators for the GOP.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jun 29, 2011 - 01:15am PT
I didn't see this unwarranted sh#t storm coming, but wanted to thank Dan for everything, including doing the right thing as he sees it.

BTW, still looking for one of your hammers....I've got cash:-)
mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Jun 29, 2011 - 02:16am PT
BTW, still looking for one of your hammers....I've got cash:-)

Ditto! I will add a $twenty$ to any of Couchmasters offers....:O

Dude has all the good Hammers!

Maybe we call upon T Moses to whip up a batch?

Thanks for the word Dan, good on you.



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