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G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Sep 15, 2017 - 03:32pm PT
Looks more like a lake trout than a brookie though.
Stimbo

Trad climber
Crowley Lake
Sep 15, 2017 - 05:58pm PT
Looks more like a lake trout than a brookie though.

I agree, way cool!

"Crab," nice peanut gallery you've got going there!
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Sep 15, 2017 - 08:01pm PT
Credit: limpingcrab
Credit: limpingcrab
Two more this evening. That's what lake trout look like!? I thought the white border on the fins meant brookie. I'll be darned, these would be my first lake trout ever then. I've been fishing since I could walk, but it's almost entirely west side sierra streams and rivers so I haven't caught a wide variety of species or subspecies.

Still surprising. Never heard of lake trout in the lower kings either. Cool.

Edit: thanks stimbo, this is one of the few spots where kids can play without supervision and I can fish nearby so it's been the go to recently.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Sep 15, 2017 - 08:10pm PT
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ruppell

climber
Sep 15, 2017 - 08:54pm PT
It could be a Splake.
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Sep 15, 2017 - 09:10pm PT
In any case, it isn't a trout; it is a char. I don't really like that we have put char into western trout streams. The only good char is a Pacific ocean char - yummmm, salmon!

Of course if that is confusing, consider that the Atlantic salmon is actually a trout.
Stimbo

Trad climber
Crowley Lake
Sep 15, 2017 - 09:21pm PT
The thing that throws me is the, "deeply forked tail." Like Ruppell said, it could be a splake, a hybrid between a brookie and lake trout. It is from the char family. Regardless, they must be fun to catch. The kids must have liked that.
drF

Trad climber
usa
Sep 15, 2017 - 09:44pm PT
^^^
Brook Trout all the way

You should see the ones pulled out of Henry's Lake that look just like that.....but really big!
BG

Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
Sep 16, 2017 - 03:55pm PT
photo by bob gaines
photo by bob gaines
Credit: BG

I believe that's a splake. A brook trout will always have the red spot within a blue spot as seen in the photo above. A key identifying characteristic of a lake trout is that they always have a deeply forked tail. A splake has neither.

A splake is a cross between a speckled (Sp) trout (the Canadian word for brook trout) and a lake trout. This hybrid doesn't occur naturally. Unlike other artificial hybrids, like tiger trout, splake can successfully reproduce once they've been created in a hatchery. The lower fins and belly of a splake will closely resemble a brook trout. Splake can grow significantly larger than brook trout. The IGFA world record is 20 pounds 11 ounces.

Relatively common in New York, Pennsylvania, and the Great Lakes, but in California? You may have found a rare self-sustaining population.
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Sep 16, 2017 - 04:20pm PT
Splake? I think it might be a Trarp. Cross between a trout and a carp. Strange things out there on that river these days. I've seen what the neighbors throw in the water.
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Sep 18, 2017 - 03:57pm PT
Hmmm, learn something every day. But why are they in the Kings?
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Sep 18, 2017 - 08:45pm PT
Great info Bob, thanks! That's all new to me.

Hmmm, learn something every day. But why are they in the Kings?
Wondering the same thing, I just emailed the Kings River Conservancy, the agency that manages the fishery, and asked if they know of any Splake history.




On a side note, yesterday afternoon I lost the biggest rainbow I've ever had on the line. I swam a class II rapid with my net in my mouth and almost ran out of backing ,to no avail.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Sep 19, 2017 - 04:56pm PT
The KRC got back to me and said the hatchery decided to mix things up and stocked some brookies in the lower kings last month. I was told the fish in my picture were dull colored brookies and zooming in on my full resolution versions I do see a few red dots with blue halos.

Dull colored indeed. Kinda weird they put them in there since they're trying to restore the native bows and designating spawning channels and such.
BG

Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
Sep 19, 2017 - 08:44pm PT
Mystery solved!

On a side note, yesterday afternoon I lost the biggest rainbow I've ever had on the line. I swam a class II rapid with my net in my mouth and almost ran out of backing ,to no avail.

Now we're talking! The big ones find a way.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Sep 26, 2017 - 04:44pm PT
Bump for another question.

My brother and I are taking the wives to a lake in the southern sierra at 9,500ft in mid October. The few times I've fished in alpine lakes were in mid summer and before fly fishing.


Any tips on late season alpine fishing for big rainbows? (legend has it that's what we should expect)

Deep or shallow?

Sinking or floating line?

Streamers, nymphs or dries?

Any sort of advice to help us plan and pack would be very appreciated, if I'm not in a low elevation west side stream I'm out of my element!
ruppell

climber
Sep 26, 2017 - 05:04pm PT
Lucky for you alpine lakes are my bread and butter.

I'll give you a few tips that you can take or leave.

If your dead set on fly action only go streamers. I'd have black, green, and burnt orange handy. Go with a sinking tip line and cast as parallel to shore as you can.

What I always do is sight fish. I won't cast a single time until I see a big fish on a feeding pattern. Once you spot him drop in and cast ahead of where you think he's gonna be going. Slowly strip and if you time it right your streamer and his eyes should meet. Then just gentle taps to entice him to take.

If he bolts or spooks, which they'll do a lot, just stay put. Wait up to 15 minutes and I can almost promise you he'll come back to the same spot. Same goes if he just doesn't take, Watch him closely and he'll turn to deeper water, reverse direction 180 then turn again back into shallower water heading right back towards you.

Keep doing those things and you'll get big fish in any lake.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Sep 27, 2017 - 07:54am PT
Thanks Ruppel!

Found this too
http://stevenojai.tripod.com/lake1.htm
WTF

climber
Sep 27, 2017 - 09:38am PT
Whoa swimming class 2 with the net in your mouth hooked into large fish had to be interesting. Hope you weren't wear waders.

The mighty Truckee is really picking up. I was able to escape my remodel Sunday for a few hours and put 15 fish to hand. Probably one of my best mornings in a few years. Nothing big just a lot of nice fat smaller fish in the 10 to 12 inch range.

Dead drifting crawfish pattern with a small stone nymph was the ticket. I never changed my rig all morning. Sometimes you just put the right combo on and it happens.

Pyramid opens on the first but the news is they haven't fixed a single road all summer. Most of the closed beaches are the Fall beaches where deep water and fall fishing happens. Sort of bummed about the lack of effort to get those areas fixed. Might have to get the boat out and access from the lake if we want to fish those areas.

Let me know if you are interested in a pyramid get together this year. I start to really hit it in late October when we have had some storms and some cooler days and nights. The water temp on shore is still really high for the fish to come in. If you go look for tui chub bait balls near rock outcrops and fish the bait ball.
BG

Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
Sep 27, 2017 - 05:54pm PT
photo by yvonne gaines
photo by yvonne gaines
Credit: yvonne gaines

Can't wait to get back to Pyramid Lake.

Might be a great season for float tubing, but watch out for that wind!
ruppell

climber
Sep 27, 2017 - 06:05pm PT
Limping

That's a great site. Lake fishing is harder to get on fish then stream fishing. For the most part, streams are easy to read. Lakes are a little harder. Where are you going?

WTF,

When you say the roads are closed are they actually impassable or just blocked off? I've got a lifted 3rd Gen 4Runner that doesn't find much that's "impassable". I've never gotten a chance to fish Pyramid. As long as you don't mind me hucking mini-jigs I'd be game to get after it sometime towards the end of Oct.
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