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ruppell
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Bob
I can understand that from DFG's stand point. Triploids make sense to stock in areas that have no native species. That provides sport fishing where it wasn't. From what you describe it sounds like AK DFG is doing it right.
I don't mind triploids as much as I mind them being included in the IFGA books. I personally think the IGFA made a big error in allowing the Diefenbaker Rainbows to be the world record. It was an accidental stocking of a lake that had a native population of bows. They can tell the difference easily with DNA testing. The Tri's are huge and I'd love to catch one before they all die off but there not a natural fish. It's bugged me since 2007 when the first record came out of there.
Prior to the Diefenbaker fish the all tackle record for Rainbows was, what? 37 pounds? I'm sure that in the time since the IGFA was founded in 1939 we'd have scene natural Bows in the 40 pound range if it was possible for them. Since the Diefenbaker incident we've seen a 43 then a few years later a 48 pound bow. Tell me I'm off base here. lol
How big was your Steelhead?
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Fly-in lodges are expensive ($5,000 to $7,000 a week) but there are roadside and hike-in options.
Another cheaper option for fly-in is to get one of the cabins in the Tongass NF. Do a little research and find out where and when and get your request in early. The cabins are bare bones but cheap. They have bunks, a table and a heat source like a wood or oil stove. You bring the rest. Some have John-boats with oars. I did this on POW Island a few years back for some Fall steelhead in October. Crappy weather but great fishing. Besides food, all I paid for was a RT flight to Wrangel, a short floatplane trip and the cabin which was only 20 bucks a night back then. Less than a grand for a week of awesome fishing in Alaska. I pay more if I fly to Anchorage, rent a car and pay for accommodations and food for a week. When I had a place in Seward it was cheaper.
Anyway you go, if you are a fisherman, Alaska is hard to beat. But I haven't been to Patagonia yet.
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BG
Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
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How big was your Steelhead?
75 cm (29.5 inches) to the fork of the tail.
The current all-tackle length record from Diefenbacker is 77 cm (30.3 inches). The rules state that the fish must be released alive and well, and to beat an existing record, you need to best it by 2 cm, so to set a new record it'll have to be 79 cm (31.1 inches) from the nose to the fork of the tail.
I bet the next record will be a steelhead.
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BG
Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
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Thanks Jim, and thanks for sharing that cool video.
I've always wanted to fish Kamchatka.... the diciest part would no doubt be having to ride in those old broken down Russian helicopters!
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Stimbo
Trad climber
Crowley Lake
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Thanks for the great beta Bob and Wayno. I need to start saving some buck$.
Fishing on the Eastside is not as exotic as Alaska, BC or Kamchatka, but will have to suffice for now. From yesterday.... many, many rainbows to hand and two browns thrown into the mix.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Stimbo you're on fire. Really nice trout right there. Where you fishin? Are those ladies deep or coming to the surface?
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Stimbo
Trad climber
Crowley Lake
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Really nice trout right there. Where you fishin? Are those ladies deep or coming to the surface?
All on the surface with hoppers!
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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So cool. Macronut and I are heading to Tuolumne Meadows THIS WEEKEND for three days of climbing....our Annual 3 day Project Mayhem. We plan on climbing West Crack on Friday morning early..like way early to avoid crowds...If we get off the route early and drive down your way any chance you can hook us up with some beta to get on a trout like that? Either just some intel or meet us in person so we can catch something with you, I dunno, just spitballin' here. Might be fun to hook up! We plan to have the same itinerary Saturday and Sunday.
Scott
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Catch them and keep them. Give other fish a chance....trout devastate native fish populations wherever they are introduced.
I know some well known environmentalists who decry introduced plant and animal species in Patagonia except when it comes to trout. Well, they do provide a lot of fun.
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Stimbo
Trad climber
Crowley Lake
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Catch them and keep them. Give other fish a chance....trout devastate native fish populations wherever they are introduced.
I know some well known environmentalists who decry introduced plant and animal species in Patagonia except when it comes to trout. Well, they do provide a lot of fun.
Jim,
Have you read, "An Entirely Synthetic Fish" by Anders Halverson? You won't look at a rainbow trout again without some kind of disdain. But like you say, they provide a lot of fun.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Rainbows are evil, I want to catch them all! Thanks Jim, I'll shoot you an email. Might be fun to hook up together and catch a few!
Scott
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Catch them and keep them. Give other fish a chance....trout devastate native fish populations wherever they are introduced.
I know some well known environmentalists who decry introduced plant and animal species in Patagonia except when it comes to trout. Well, they do provide a lot of fun.
Unless you're fishing for native strains in their native range! Well, as native as the strain can be considering their history. I actually have a DNA sample kit that I'm supposed to use to bring back a fin clip from what might be the last holdout of the genetically pure coastal rainbow trout (the westside Sierra native subspecies).
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Genetically pure coastal rainbow trout (the westside Sierra native subspecies)
I like to put those in some foil with a little bit of butter, garlic, a bayleaf and some tarragon. Mmmmmmmm......nothing tastier than an endangered species.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Email sent Stimbo.
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Stimbo
Trad climber
Crowley Lake
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Email sent Stimbo.
Got it, thanks! I sent one your way as well.
Jim
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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I'm fairly convinced that those are natives way up the East Fork of the San Gabriel along with the Fish and Iron Forks.
My only evidence of this is the way they look, fight and the color of the flesh. The stockers down below by the ranger station are pathetic imitations.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Sep 12, 2017 - 12:30pm PT
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Well, just returned from a few days of nirvana on the Eastside and in and around Tuolumne and The Yosemite. On Sunday we actually fished three different rivers. The East Walker, the Tuolumne and the lower Merced outside the park. It was super cool hooking up with Stimbo (thanks to this thread) who is a fantastic guy and put us on top of some really nice fish. I will give you guys a full write up later but for the time being, guess which trout came from which river.
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Cali
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Sep 12, 2017 - 01:06pm PT
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Merced
East Walker
Tuolumne
Looking forward to the full report!
Some of the creeks in TM fish really well also. I fished one of them on Labor day weekend and caught about 40 fish in 4 hours.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Sep 12, 2017 - 06:10pm PT
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You got to fish with stimbo!??! Never told me that part. Looking forward to more pics of you guys holding stimbo's fish
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