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Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Topic Author's Original Post - May 4, 2011 - 07:57pm PT
Today is the anniversary of Kent State massacre. It never leaves my thoughts...a child of the times. Susan

Wade Icey

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May 4, 2011 - 08:01pm PT

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Somewhere Up There
May 4, 2011 - 08:04pm PT
Never leaves my thoughts either. That was a momentous and frightening day that scarred our national conscience. National Guardsmen were shooting and killing university students for protesting the Vietnam War. It was insane.

Trad climber
May 4, 2011 - 08:09pm PT
Still love the Neil Young song. Cool story about being arrested Susan.

May 4, 2011 - 08:57pm PT
Yeah. Made an indelible mark on me. I was 17 and a senior in HS.

Credit: Gene

A few months later, my classmate, Jonathan Jackson, got killed while shooting up a Marin County court room trying to free his brother, George. JJ killed a bunch of folks. Crazy time, indeed.


EDIT: SCseagoat, Thanks for posting up.

EDIT 2: Sullly, From the Neil Young song as I'm sure you know.

What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

May 4, 2011 - 09:15pm PT

Ever hear this tune? :)


Yet another incessant EDIT: These kids were protesting what ultimately brought about the Cambodian genocide.

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Porta Ledga Onza Kaleefa
May 4, 2011 - 09:40pm PT
A day that I will never forget.

I was 20 and a sophomore at San Diego Sate University. Demonstrations & student union strikes followed. Joined friends who were students at UCSD & UCLA.

Sad time to be a young student(or the parents of one)in America.

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Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
May 4, 2011 - 09:50pm PT
A black day in America that still haunts my memory.

May 4, 2011 - 10:08pm PT
From what I have read, why they fired was never determined: lots of conflicting reports, people not talking and/or lying, no one clearly in charge, all the things you would expct from this type of fiasco/disaster . Anyone know anything more?

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Porta Ledga Onza Kaleefa
May 4, 2011 - 10:24pm PT
Gene- "...the brother of Jonathon Johnson..."

I watched that whole thing play out on television. GJ with a sawed off shotgun taped to his hand and the business end taped to the back of the judges head, the judge who just moments before was sitting in court and about to sentence him. And the grizzly end in which all, including the judge with his head blown off, wound up dead.

Definately a sad reminder of the times in which we live/lived.

edit: as I recall, his brother was only 17yrs. old.

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The state of confusion
May 4, 2011 - 10:31pm PT

Not only that, but the first Freedom Ride took place 50 years ago today.

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2011 - 11:07pm PT
And lets not forget just 10 days after Kent State there were two students killed and several injured at Jackson State in Mississippi. Took a major back page to Kent State...I think we all know why. Susan

Gene: yes, love Buffalo Springfield...did you know they are actually doing a reunion tour? I think they are going to be in Oakland around the first of June. I've never figured out why those old rockers look like they have aged so much (drugs?) and I'm sure I don't look like I've aged ALL that much..... ha ha ha Susan

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Porta Ledga Onza Kaleefa
May 4, 2011 - 11:42pm PT
Saw one of the last BS sets/shows at SDSU's 'Back Door' in the spring of '68(i was a senior in H.S.). It was already known, evidently, that they were soon to break up because I can still here and picture my best friend exclaiming "We can't miss this, it's gonna be one of their last..."! It was a great gig.

That song 'For What It's Worth' served as a banner for my generation.

I saw Crosby, Stills, Nash, & Young at the Balboa Stadium, San Diego(1969).
Todd Eastman

Bellingham, WA
May 5, 2011 - 02:14am PT
My friend showed me his Kent State yearbook from that year in the early-1990s. Looking at those images was difficult for me. The event caused my friend to drop out and go on to be a leader in outdoor education. Democracy is not free...

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Can't get here from there
May 5, 2011 - 03:36am PT
I was 18 at the time and it scared the hell out of me.

Isn't our government over in Syria defending the people protesting against their government?
Go figure.

Spider Savage

Mountain climber
May 5, 2011 - 10:53am PT
When fascism takes hold, people get killed.

Kent State cracked the growing American fascism of the the 1960's. An army of young people rose up to oppose what history has shown was wrong.

Today this is happening across the Middle East at a much higher cost. IT's time to bring down the fascist oil wealth.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
May 5, 2011 - 11:19am PT
Shlt happens. Somebody probably threw a rock and things escalated.
Whoever shot first will have to live with the consequences.

I knew a woman who was there and turned to find her room mate dead next to her.
That's not her in the photo.

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2013 - 10:52am PT
Ummm, it's that day again, 43 years after the event. End of innocence as what we fought for, fellow students were being killed. Jackson State occurred 10 days after. Some call for reopening of the investigation regarding if the Guards were actually ordered to fire.

I was a student at University of Penn and as we listened to a static filled radio we thought they were saying "Penn State" instead of "Kent State" Several days later about 100,000 protesters converged on Washington. It was scary as Guardsmen lined the tops of buildings with rifles. We all wondered, "were we next" RIP: Allison, Sandra, Jeffery, William. They would have been my age.


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Soon 2B Arizona
May 4, 2013 - 11:21am PT
Who can forget that picture?
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 4, 2013 - 11:49am PT
It makes things like Rand Pauls recent fillibuster seem a bit more credible doesnt it..

"that could never happen here"..
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