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Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 25, 2012 - 05:29pm PT
I was at the Solid Rock gym in San Diego, CA, circa late 1990's, when I watched an incredibly lean and fit climber leading a 5.12 route in the lead cave. After recognizing him on his success, he revealed that he was a Navy SEAL from out at the base on Coronado Island after sharing that I was too was a fellow shipmate. In conversation he also talked of having to keep a sheep alive, after having a mortal wound purposely inflicted, as part of his training. This kid was SWOLE, to say the least!

Since San Diego is the principal homeport of the Naval Pacific Fleet, and having Santee Boulders and Mt. Woodson in my backyard, I encounterd Navy personell and SEALs/wanna-be SEALs quite often. Another memory was of a SEAL named "Kevin" who walked me through the traverse on the Twenty Point Boulder at Santee for the first time after twenty seven years of visiting the place. Being as smart and as fit as those kids are definitely gives them a firm foundation for climbing.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jan 25, 2012 - 05:35pm PT
One thing, that I find amazing about these guys, is they never seek recognition, nor fame of any kind.
Certainly, that can't be said for the media darlings, who egotistically occupy our sport of climbing.

While climbers risk their lives to serve themselves, Seals risk their lives for a greater purpose, to serve others.

Doing something greater than yourself, is the very definition of a hero.

Probably one of their most honorable attributes. Everyone knows they are the best, but unlike spray-master climbers, they do not brag, and rarely talk about their exploits.

Being a badass is one thing, but never bragging about it is another.

Truly, the most lethal yet honorable soldiers alive today. I have nothing but admiration for these guys, and their missions are NEVER easy...
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 25, 2012 - 05:48pm PT
Hey Chief, former HM2 "Doc" here...how did they approve you for Amphib/BUDS training with your ASD repair on your FITREP? Did they overlook the ramifications for deep dive training? I'd say that was a major SNAFU!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 25, 2012 - 05:49pm PT
Actually, they are ordered to maintain a low profile.

Believe me (I've met a few) these guys DO have egos. Some quite substantial.
But they are an elite that have earned their props.


Understanding that when Mossad send out a kidon team to assassinate somebody it is seen as execution of a legitimate state sanctioned warrant, it is nonetheless much easier to feel good about a rescue mission by SEALs than a "terminate with extreme prejudice" mission.
Osama certainly deserved killing, and the burial at sea was a brilliant twist likely to be repeated on those enemies whose followers are still a problem.
But seeing Americans cheering in the street reminded me of the muslims that cheered 9/11.

We should be better than that.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jan 25, 2012 - 07:21pm PT
But seeing Americans cheering in the street reminded me of the muslims that cheered 9/11.

We should be better than that.


I like ya, Ron, but f*#k off on that sentiment!

Do not equivocate the two events lest you fall into a dangerous 'we started everything' Ron Paul trap.

I really do not want go into why we, yes WE, should be allowed a wide berth when we go into action.

As I said before, we go in with the F*#KING MOST RESTAINING AND HUMANE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT that it drives me crazy!!!

I know you know of what I speak. If we can actually bag one of these pieces of demonic sh#t, I really don't care how we do it. And thank God that Obama agrees with me on this.

EDIT: Yeah, the Seals have the humility thing in their sworn credo. Look it up.
rich sims

Social climber
co
Jan 25, 2012 - 07:28pm PT
I grew up with them around the pool at the summer parties my dad threw.
Young active and retired guys, 60s to early 70s the younger active guys never hung around long I mean it was mostly an older crowd with kids.
You could feel the energy coming off the active guys almost taste it. They were just back or on the way to Nam.
Never thought how tough my dad was till the time we were parked for the night at Mammoth Hot Springs in a motor home.
Five dudes in a truck ran into the motor home about 1am.
By the time I got out two were on the ground and one was backing up saying mister I don’t want any.
I looked at my suit and tie type dad who I had not in years seen get physical standing in his underwear realizing he had skills this punk never wanted to put to the test.

Ok Werner you were one of the few in my memory who had some real street experience. I mean not the weekend for fun variety.

During one fittest episode I would have liked to see how a seal would have handled Ron P. charge with the jousting sick on the log. I think it would have been tougher for Ron but who knows.
When you go work out with UCLA’s gymnastic team and they can not do your workout yer pretty Fing tough.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jan 25, 2012 - 07:32pm PT


except nowadays, every mission is publicised unfortunately....
laughingman

Mountain climber
Seattle WA
Jan 25, 2012 - 07:33pm PT
Actually, they are ordered to maintain a low profile.

Believe me (I've met a few) these guys DO have egos. Some quite substantial.
But they are an elite that have earned their props.


Understanding that when Mossad send out a kidon team to assassinate somebody it is seen as execution of a legitimate state sanctioned warrant, it is nonetheless much easier to feel good about a rescue mission by SEALs than a "terminate with extreme prejudice" mission.
Osama certainly deserved killing, and the burial at sea was a brilliant twist likely to be repeated on those enemies whose followers are still a problem.
But seeing Americans cheering in the street reminded me of the muslims that cheered 9/11.

We should be better than that.

Agreed I have met several dudes involved with SOF type stuff that were complete dicks...

On that note Erik Prince, a former navy SEAL ( and who started Blackwater international) is supposedly a dick...

He also cheated on his ailing wife and married his mistress... Some good Christian he is....



bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jan 25, 2012 - 07:49pm PT
Haha! the slagging continues from laughingman. You're right, SEALs are real dicks, but climbers like you are real awesome!!!!

laughingman

Mountain climber
Seattle WA
Jan 25, 2012 - 08:34pm PT
Haha! the slagging continues from laughingman. You're right, SEALs are real dicks, but climbers like you are real awesome!!!!

I said SOF types not SEALS. I know one or two former Navy SEALS that were nice guys.
The several people I am talking about ( they shall not be named) were part of old boys club that comes out of West Point and other OCS schools. For some reason they felt this gave them "Special A-hole privileges" well on leave.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jan 25, 2012 - 08:46pm PT
Fair enough, laughingman.
dmons

climber
Jan 25, 2012 - 11:06pm PT
no supposedly about it
erik prince is a thieving piece of sh#t

your typical christian liar with a gun
the trash billionaires kids invariable are

Asshole
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 25, 2012 - 11:14pm PT
Hey, I got an opportunity to shoot the Barrett M107A1™ Sniper rifle! Not that I'm but a worm, but I was providing a stand-by at the Iraqi National Guard (ING) range at FOB Hit, Iraq, in '04-05, for our snipers zeroing their weapons, when I was asked, "Ya wanna take a few shots Doc?" by one of our snipers. "Be sure to keep your mouth closed when you pull the trigger," he warned. I didn't quite grasp that one but feeling "like a kid in a candy shop" I layed prone anyhow to bang a few rounds. After loading one of the nearly six inch rounds I eyed a rock in the distance through the scope and pulled the trigger. "BOOM!" the air cracked, my body softly sliding back across the ground, a funnel of dirt filling my mouth from the back wash created by the recoil. "Okay, I get it now," I thought silently while spitting mud from my mouth. Good stuff!
laughingman

Mountain climber
Seattle WA
Jan 25, 2012 - 11:23pm PT
From what Iv'e seen of the Barrett I would never want to touch one of these...



Turn off the music on the vid it sucks...

It's in 14.5×114mm roughly 1.5 times the power of a 50 cal....
Similar to the 20mm auto cannon round....
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 26, 2012 - 07:13am PT
You're right, SEALs are real dicks, but climbers like you are real awesome!!!!

Everybody is a horse's patoot at some point.
Especially SEALS and climbers.



The .50BMG is currently enjoying the same kind of folk status that the .44mag did from Dirty Harry.


But real long shooters have moved on to more sophisticated rounds like 6.5 x 284mm, .338 Lapua, and in the role of the fifty the .416 Barrett.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jan 26, 2012 - 07:27am PT
To all you SEAL nuthuggers:
How do you think it would turn out of the Somali kidnappers had US weapons, logistics, and communications, and the SEALS were armed with crappy rifles, sticks, and stones?

If you really want to nuthug the people responsible for US military might, go to your local engineering school and bow down. I'm sure SEALs are tough guys, but they got 'em all over the world, and that don't mean jack squat without modern equipment.
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Jan 26, 2012 - 07:38am PT
We should be better than that.

But we seldom are.
ncrockclimber

climber
The Desert Oven
Jan 26, 2012 - 07:55am PT
Hey Bluering, what branch of the service were you in?
Weld_it

Trad climber
Chatsworth
Jan 26, 2012 - 07:59am PT
FACT: I'M NOW SEEL TRANEING VIA ROTC BRAS. SOON I WILL FREE HOSTAGES IN SUNMALIA. SEMPER FI BRAS!
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Jan 26, 2012 - 09:35am PT
You are as funny as that damn penguin that was always getting himself f*#ked up and begging Mr. Wizard to save his ass.







I truly believe a SEAL with a rock is far more dangerous than a Somali pirate with an AK.

I wouldn't put money on an armed pirate against a bare assed naked Mossad or Spotnitz(sp?) asset either. And I don't care what the Somali has. Everything is NOT equal, will NEVER be equal, and thank God for that. It's just foolish to pretend they might ever be.





Weld_it, I doubt you will ever make a operational Marine, much less a SEAL.

I DID know a Marine who wasn't especially good, he did get his honorable discharge. I doubt there is such a thing as a poor functioning SEAL. My buddies kid joined the Marines for some damn reason ("they made me feel wanted, and they invited me to parties. They called me back over and over. None of the other recruiters did anything like that").

He had always been the kid most likely to stay in camp when the rest of us went for the peak. He was a hard core Catholic, and took after his mother more than his dad. I don't think the Marines ever trusted him to actually kill anybody in a pinch. They placed him on duty in the Kali desert, and gave him a generator to run and maintain. Definitely second echelon posistion, although the Marines claim to have no second echelon, that EVERY Marine fights.

My buddies kid is a good kid, slightly, although subtly "different" in some way. But He would never have been my choice as a backup in any kind of a fight. He was a "good marine", but not a good killer. I think they just couldn't scare enough of the dedicated God Fearing Catholic out of him. "Thou shalt not kill" doesn't leave a lot of room for interpretation, actually.



But SEALS can your ass if you can't make EVERYBODY think you are an ultimate badass.



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