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BJ

climber
Aug 3, 2013 - 11:28am PT
And OJ was found not guilty of killing Ronald and Nicole.

And we all know he didn't do it, right Kate?
Port

Trad climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2013 - 11:39am PT
Relin's death is on Krak???? What a joke. Maybe if a certain person didn't lie and IGNORE opportunities to correct the problem NONE of this would of happened. He chose not to becuase he knew he was guilty. Why do you think he chose not to speak to 60 minutes? Every thing about this was so preventable.
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Aug 3, 2013 - 11:45am PT
Jennier Woodlief is perhaps the most professional climbing-reporter/writer today (A Wall of White and A Bolt from the Blue)

Her concern for accuracy, fairness and empathy with characters may start a reverse trend. Get off the Krak and read one of her books...
sempervirens

climber
Aug 3, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
Kathryn, A bit more proofreading would make it easier for me to follow your writing. I couldn't find the poem; would you repost it? You do seem to have some insight on the matter.
ncrockclimber

climber
The Desert Oven
Jan 20, 2014 - 06:48pm PT
http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-greg-mortenson-of-three-cups-of-tea-returns-to-explain-his-actions-20140120,0,2820493.story#axzz2qz7sKHej

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/08/is-it-time-to-forgive-greg-mortenson.html

Although Krakauer's piece predates the Mortenson's interview, I think it is still a great rebuttal. IMHO, Greg is a con artist, at best skimming huge sums of money from a charitable foundation. I cannot believe that people still donate money to this asshat and his "charity."
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jan 20, 2014 - 10:19pm PT

More excellent information on on real big, dishonest scammer.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Jan 20, 2014 - 10:36pm PT
wow, true believers still posting on ST.

i guess we also have a man-in-the-moon thread, though, so maybe i shouldnt be surprised.
WTF

climber
Jan 21, 2014 - 10:39am PT
On the Today show right now.
Port

Trad climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2014 - 10:59am PT
Saw it on the Eastcoast this morning. He really didn't say much.

Why after years of silence does he speak on the Today show?!?
ncrockclimber

climber
The Desert Oven
Jan 21, 2014 - 11:15am PT
Money - he wants more of it. The more I read about this guy and his "charity," the more I am convinced that he is a total POS. He might have started with good intentions, but he has lost all credibility.
WTF

climber
Jan 21, 2014 - 11:30am PT
WTF was that. He said nothing.

I just lost most of the respect I had for Brokaw. That was the wrong guy to interview GM. They should have actually had a journalist who did not know anyone involved. TB gave money to GM. What a pussy footed interview.

Like the fact that the donations are down 80%. If we could just get the next 15% then it's gone. Perhaps someone will then step up and run a proper charity for those people.

JJ2onK2

climber
Apr 12, 2014 - 09:54am PT
I am working on a documentary about Greg Mortenson, the CAI, and the "60 Minutes" story which created the scandal. Take a look at the fundraising trailer - www.3000cupsoftea.org. We are still gathering information and interviews and remain open to where the story is taking us.
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Apr 19, 2014 - 10:07am PT
The website EverestK2 has just published an interview with the producers of the film defending Mortenson.


http://www.explorersweb.com/everest_k2/news.php?url=3000-cups-of-tea_1396643715

The also provide a trailer of the movie they are making which everyone interested in this story should watch.

http://3000cupsoftea.org/trailer.php
BJ

climber
Apr 19, 2014 - 10:33am PT
I go from mad to sad. It's just like a Greek tragedy.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Apr 19, 2014 - 01:06pm PT
Ah, I see.

Now the donations that people give to take care of little girls will be diverted to documentary maker's pockets:

Having helped us with both of our expeditions through the troubled and fractious Northern Territories of Pakistan, Mortenson had become a friend and colleague.

We are still gathering information and interviews and remain open to where the story is taking us.

NO ONE can look at the first minute of the "fundraising trailer" and have any doubt about where they are directing this story.

The good news is that such an effort will forever destroy their credibility as documentarians, and we'll never have to suffer through their tripe again.

Jeff and I were also confused: we had seen the schools and met the man, so none of what we were watching made sense. We decided to find out for ourselves what had happened -- with Mortenson, with his schools, and perhaps, with the state of American journalism.
3,000 Cups of Tea is the result of that investigation.

Note the PAST TENSE. So much for the email written on the 12th that says they will go where the story takes them, since they are already done, and were done before they started.
Port

Trad climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 19, 2014 - 01:38pm PT
So now, three years after the 60 mins report, is when they get around to defending him?

Why the prolonged silence?

Sewellymon

climber
.....in a single wide......
Apr 19, 2014 - 02:55pm PT
+1 what Ken M said.

Respectfully submitted JJ2on K2

You write you "remain open to where the story is taking us."

You lost your credibility right there.

The trailer is entirely supportive of Mortenson. That's your right. Your dime, your "documentary" . But from what the trailer shows, there is no taking your story anywhere that casts Mortenson in an unflattering light.

Creditability would have demanded you had hire an objective and respected 3rd party to audit the schools in Pakistan. That is how it is done in the business word. I make food packaging. What if Krakauer wrote of allegations we what? Use cheaper Chinese inks with toxic metals in your Power Bar wrap? So my buddies go to my Chinese ink manufacturing plant and report what they find? Complete with footage of me handing out happy daisies to the hourly workers or some-such ridiculousness? No- we'd send over a 3rd party auditor on a surprise inspection and report those findings.

Does not pass the sniff test.
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Apr 19, 2014 - 03:45pm PT
kind of pathetic....
but they did get one thing right, when journalists smell blood they see money. Goes with the territory. But it does seem evident that the flick isn't looking for the Truth, but is another slick promo campaign.

couchmaster

climber
pdx
Apr 19, 2014 - 04:34pm PT
Thanks for sharing this Kathryn:
"@Stitch, Colorado Springs

My poem which you so object to is copyrighted material which you did not contact me for permission to use. The fact you named me in no way gave you permission. You were also ignorant of the reasons why I wrote that poem, as during my coverage my personal email was hacked "spying on school teachers is no way to win a court case", personal emails between myself, attorneys on all sides and the CAI were all harvested, placed in file folders and disseminated all over the U.S. and German (Random House headquarters). To say I was angry is quite obvious. The folders were named "Mortenson" "Discovery" and "Haddon" and I began receiving "love notes" on instant message from "Mohommed" and "Abdul". Obviously some Krakauer supporter or worse, the Plaintiffs were involved in violating my account and I had every right to express my opinion which turned out to be correct.

The motion was made of swiss cheese, there was not one single cited criminal act in the motion which is why they kept requesting permission to amend it. It was dismissed by Judge Samuel Hadden in March of 2012, and Drury persists in an appeal.

And to update my "fan" and "frenemies" where on Supertopo, the man who actually wrote Three Cups of Tea committed suicide last Thanksgiving after being bankrupted and having his reputation ruined because Krakauer got pissed off at Greg Mortenson. Krakauer's insincere condolences to David Relin's widow was insincere as within days his friend and editor Tina Brown runs he article "Is it time to forgive Greg Mortenson yet?"

Gee, after causing the death of one writer, refusing to cooperate with the class action law suit that had one source and one source only Krakauer, he has blood on his hands and all of you who supported him do too.

For those who have on this thread have questioned my academic and professional credentials, I am a graduate of the UND, both in journalism and my Maser's degree is in English, I am an examiner with the British Council here in China and have worked in central Asia for nearly 9 years.

I'm sick of seeing this thread come up when my name is Googled, and for those "dainty" climbers who were offended by my language, please allow me to quote you when someone violates your private email box and sends its contents all over hell and high water.

Krakauer did not kill Mortenson (though he timed it to hopefully have that affect since he was awaiting open heart surgery), Relin is dead, but Mortenson is still in Afghanistan, he did build the schools he said he built, his books still sell world-wide and the CIA is stronger than ever with NO THANKS TO THE KRAK.

Karma will deal with Mr. Krakauer. There is an avalanche with his name on it coming. That's what happens when you piss off the dead."

For myself, I have no idea what the truth really is with Mortenson. I will say that the hit job that Krakauer published about Anatoli Boukreev in his earlier work (Into Thin Air) seemed widely condemned as falsehoods - and was enough to make me disbelieve anything he says.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 19, 2014 - 05:33pm PT
Well, Sully, if recent events are any indication, those 'legions' probably
don't want to raise their educated heads, let alone voices, for fear of
being blown up. But I rather doubt there are legions. But it does seem
like they did quite a bit of good in some places even if none of those
'legionaires' got to ride on Mortensen's bizjet.

edit:
Hey, Sully, you deleted! For shame! ;-)
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