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Tarbuster
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Dec 18, 2017 - 08:10am PT
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Guys routinely died for this sh#t.
Lot of talent disappeared in a short period of time.
*And I did enjoy that post you made featuring Hamilton and his brother.
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Tarbuster
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Have we talked about this yet?
From the makers of Dogtown and Z Boys/Riding Giants.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Just watched it on Netflix. Easily as poignant as the other two documentaries from the same filmmakers on skateboarding and surfing. Tons of great archival footage of the drivers and the times.
It's not just that the modern narrative is more risk-averse than it was for blood sport in the 70s. Much of the documentary is focused on risks and death in Formula One during that era when power and aerodynamics grossly outweighed the limitations of the tracks and in situ medical response. This is how it really was. Still, after watching this three times and enjoying every minute of it, I'd like to see an alternate 1970s F1 treatment focusing more on driver skill, the creative details of a rapidly advancing technology, and the nature of the tracks & races themselves. But the story as it is told here in this documentary easily fills out the time allotted, and it's an important one.
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Winemaker
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So what's the movie called? I tried '1 The Movie' on Netflix with no joy. Tried Formula 1; no joy.
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Tarbuster
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Search <1 2013>
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Winemaker
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Doh. I was looking at streaming titles! Thanks.
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Tarbuster
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Max Mosley, President of the FIA from 1993 to 2009:
You can think of person after person. You could give a wonderful party with the people that got killed.
In these various documentaries, I find Max Mosley quite the noble man.
Yet, the 70s were a time when guys routinely laid their lives on the line for this stuff, and with that, there also existed a time and a place where they could be just who they were – under the microphone, in public and in private. Now people don't die for the sport as they once did, but it is also highly sterilized when it comes to expression of personality. I suppose it's a reasonable trade-off, but then antiseptic application of reason isn't what drives passion, at least not for the pioneers.
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Setting aside all of the flash and romance, on the track, the best drivers such as Phil Hill, Jim Clark, and Niki Lauda were known to be very precise and controlled. They were like the alpinists whom everyone expected to return from the mountain again and again. Two of them did.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Now people don't die for the sport as they once did, but it is also highly sterilized when it comes to expression of personality. You mean like not being able to pass anywhere?
Only weeks until initial testing starts! Woot! 😝
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Tarbuster
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Passing?
For that we have Max Verstappen!
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otisdog
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Sierra Madre & McGee Creek, Ca.
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Formula 1 is racing, nascar is staged entertainment.
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D.Eubanks
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F1 has never been the same since we lost Senna.
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G_Gnome
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Cali
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F1, as bad as it is, is still better than everything else except MotoGP. Although I am really starting to love World Rallycross, but not the other rallycross circuit.
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Reilly
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Senna vs Hamilton would be quite the matchup, but I would have to go with Lewis’ precision.
Schumacher woulda probably beat him more often than not, too.
Hope McLarens run more competitively this year with the Frog engines. Alonso deserves
to go out getting a few podiums although I won’t hold my breath.
Gonna be interesting to see how Kubica does.
This just in! Lewis goes vegan!
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Winemaker
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Yakima, WA
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I coulda been a contender.
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D.Eubanks
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Schumacher woulda probably beat him more often than not, too Oh you think you know? I don't think so...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Didn’t say I know. I just think Senna was a little too crazy for his own good.
Schumacher shoulda learned to ski better, too.
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Tarbuster
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Jan 14, 2018 - 07:22am PT
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Winemaker!
Thanks for posting that portrait in nomex with your Formula Ford!
Along with Guy, you're probably one of the few here with actual racing experience.
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Some vintage Formula Ford examples from our local track, High Plains Raceway, east of Denver:
(The blue cars above #66 are Formula B and Super Vee)
I'd imagine the closest thing we'll see to an F1 car at a Rocky Mountain Vintage Racing event would be this Formula A/F5000 example:
Snap shots taken during last year's RMVR spring races.
Every Spring Grand Prix we see a good mix of vintage cars out racing:
Group 1 - Formula Fords / Wings and Things / Sports Racers
Group 2 - Small Bore Production Cars
Group 3 - Formula Vee
Group 4 - Mid and Big Bore Production Cars
https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2018-spring-grand-prix-high-plains-raceway-rocky-mountain-vintage-racing-rmvr-159386
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Tarbuster
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Jan 14, 2018 - 12:17pm PT
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James Hunt going like a bat out of hell in the Hesketh, and Niki Lauda in hot pursuit with the new Ferarri 312 T (transverse gearbox), which would prove to be a consistently winning platform.
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Ronnie Peterson, one of the best, who is interviewed here, died shortly after a crash at Monza in 1978.
Hunt, who built a notorious reputation as a hard-partying bad boy, was actually quite well spoken and went on to provide excellent F1 commentary after he retired.
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