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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 4, 2011 - 01:02pm PT
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Hey folks,
Just wanted to get a head count or opinion.
If you had access to MSG-free Top Ramen, healthier style noodles all at a relatively inexpensive price, would you buy it?
cheers
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Don't pour the spice packet into it. That's where the MSG is.
Trader Joes probably already makes what you're looking for.
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hossjulia
Social climber
Eastside
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I do, 2 brands, not as cheap as Top Ramen, but close enough, besides they taste a heck of a lot better.
Thai Kitchen rice noodle soups, Lemongrass Chili my fav, and Organic Ramen-style noodles from Koyo? Don't have in front of me, but they are good, but not all that cheap.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Do what Chaz says. You can get MSG free soup base in about a half dozen flavors.
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2011 - 01:29pm PT
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MSG yum.
Trader Joes carries Thai kitchen (which is yum), and Safeways used to carry them...(why not anymore?)
The Food-Coop in Davis had some great ones with whole wheat noodles and sea salt based soups, but those are expensive.
Whole-foods is hit or miss sometimes
The reason I ask is that I might be importing a cheaper/ healthier alternative from Taiwan, msg free, whole wheat noodles, and reasonable prices.
Would love to hear the feedback!
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hossjulia
Social climber
Eastside
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ww noodles suck, rice much better
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Byran
climber
Merced, CA
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I've never been a fan of those asian noodle boxes. All through college I just ate regular old italian pasta with oil and salt. Way better than ramen, and it comes out to about $0.50 a meal.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Seconds on the rice noodles...
When I get ramen I get from various kinds like you describe, but it's like an every other (or less) year purchase.
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tinker b
climber
the commonwealth
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i have been told (but never did the research myself) that the way the noodles are produced is more unhealthy then the msg.
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Brandon-
climber
Done With Tobacco
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Couscous. Same cook time.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Well, I undoubtedly ate tons of the stuff in years past (specifically Top Ramen oriental flavor), but I am trying to be a little more careful about MSG, so I'd be interested.
The rice noodle things are good, but not the same.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
Oakland
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I'd consider myself somewhat health conscious, but I'm wondering what is bad about MSG? From what I understand what it does is it effects your "taste buds" in a way that makes them stand up or have more surface area which allows them to absorb more flavor, whether it's from ramen or whatever other highly processed food.
I know things like aspartame have somewhat documented potential side effects, what are MSGs?
I'm down with cheap ramen or the ones sold in asian markets. I even eat them at home sometimes when you need something hot, fast and filling. 2 packs (1 seasoning packet or fish sauce + seasonings) + frozen veg maybe even a tin of oysters = a filling meal in 5 minutes. I don't eat this way all the time, but in a pinch it works.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
SoCal
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Real men don't whine about MSG.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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I don't use the products, but a person recently told n=me that he had a friend who ate pretty much ONLY Ramen noodles for 2 years and got scurvy!
Maybe ask the importer if they can sub Vitamin C for the MSG!
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Brandon-
climber
Done With Tobacco
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I'm ADHD and as a child MSG was strictly verbotten, as there were studies linking MSG to ADD, or so my Ma told me.
I still avoid it, as it's purpose is to inflict micro-scrapes on the roof of your mouth, thereby enhancing the flavor. Or so I've been told.
I could be way off though, haven't read much about it in the last ten years or so.
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Acer
Big Wall climber
AZ
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I Agree that "greasy low-quality nature of ramen is what makes them desirable in my opinion".
CHEAP CHEAP
How can you beat 10 cents?!?
I like couscous. That is easy to make and I have secret recipes that are good COLD, The Day After, Breakfast, Dinner, at the Table or while on the move.
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Aya K
Trad climber
New York
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I don't eat those ramen things, but I'm all about the MSG. I try to sneak it into almost everything I make, be it through vegemite, anchovies, tomato paste, etc.
I do have a bottle of it (ajinomoto, goes into everything in japan) but I rarely use that.
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cragnshag
Social climber
san joser
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My wife's grandma has in her kitchen a 20 lb tin of MSG made by the Asahi chemical corporation. She is Japanese-American and still going strong at 90 something.
I love top ramen. It's got one of the best calorie per dollar ratio out there. Great for backcountry use: 35 cents for two packs vs 8 bucks for a mountain house dehydrated meal.
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2011 - 07:14pm PT
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Seaweed and I believe certain cheeses, vegetables and meats have natural glutamic-acid in them.
Naturally occurring MSG is not neccesarily bad for one. (Still, too much of anything isn't good for anyone or thing!)
However, the process of making MSG (unwanted contaminants, I think this is a biggie) effects the overall quality of the product ingested into the body (IMO)
MSG was originally crystallized out of seaweed broth. Eventually forced hydrolysis* (highly toxic process) was used to extract MSG out of wheat gluten. However this turned out to be quite costly, so...
MSG now these days is mostly made from chemical synthesis (or/and fermentation) including sources such as hydrolyzed vegetable protein (mostly corn), cheap sugars (molasses) and ammonia/ or fermentation processes with bacteria to force overproduction of L-glutamate
If interested in learning more, read this article:
http://www.ajcn.org/content/90/3/728S.long
*Just to note proteins usually go through a natural hydrolized process in the gut caused by enzymes which is not neccessarily toxic, however the manufacturing processes were highly toxic at that time period (and maybe even now.) Read the link above.
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CrackAddict
Trad climber
Joshua Tree
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The thing about Ramen that is probably worse than MSG is that the noodles are fried in Palm Oil. Tropical Oils are not that good for you.
The Vietnamese grocery stores on Beach Blvd off the 405 in Huntington Beach have a great alternative: Pho ramen. They cost a little more, but they also come with veggie packets and I think the noodles are dried rice noodles so they are better for you.
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