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Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2011 - 01:34am PT
Thanks for the vote of confidence/and/or encouragement,
Kerwin. The older I get, the smaller the climbs... it seems.
I'm down now to about three feet. I did pull up just a little
on those holds that disintegrated on me in the movie, but
frankly that was too freaky... to go back to where I met
my demise, of sort...
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
May 6, 2011 - 01:41am PT
Pat, glad you're getting out - it's the desire and intent that matter, not the result. But don't get hurt again, eh?

at the moment, bouldering is the most grommet-oriented subculture in north america.

And Kerwin, being a historian who has likely read his Samuel Eliot Morison, likely even knows what a gromet is. Gromet being the correct spelling - a grommet is a gadget that is used on fabric to make an attachment point.
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2011 - 02:07pm PT
I wouldn't call it "getting out." A quick
glimpse at the rock, then ran away in terror...
with Ryan taking shots of my retreating
backside...
klk

Trad climber
cali
May 6, 2011 - 02:16pm PT
Gromet being the correct spelling - a grommet is a gadget that is used on fabric to make an attachment point.

Yeah, canvas tarps (like sails) used to have grommets. Although the spelling then was "grommet," possibly an Americanization or maybe just regular typos in the OI literature.

I have no idea how "grommet" became part of the vernacular or where. Presumably surfing, since mx and climbing in SoCal seemed to copy surfer culture as closely as possible.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
May 6, 2011 - 03:50pm PT
A gromet is a ship's boy on a sailing vessel. Not sure what the derivation is, but it's a term that has somewhat fallen into disuse over the last 150 years.
klk

Trad climber
cali
May 6, 2011 - 03:54pm PT
A gromet is a ship's boy on a sailing vessel. Not sure what the derivation is, but it's a term that has somewhat fallen into disuse over the last 150 years.

heh

btw, OED also uses two "m"s:

http://www.oed.com/viewdictionaryentry/Entry/82010

apparently from the 15thc french, "grommette." Maybe someone else has the time to chase that down through the etymological dictionaries.


this is some serious thread drift, but maybe it'll sell some merch.
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2011 - 06:23pm PT
I have to confess I have no idea
what you two are talking about.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
May 6, 2011 - 09:39pm PT
Don't mind us. We're cheerfully bumping your thread, while discussing arcane maritime terminology. Kerwin started it, when he said that "bouldering is the most grommet-oriented subculture in north america".

Morison says that Columbus' log spelt it "grumetes", but that the equivalent in Elizabethan English was "gromet", usually meaning ship's boys or apprentice seamen. There were ten gromets on Santa Maria, eight on Pinta, and six on Nina. As Morison was a rather well-respected historian, he can spell it however he wanted.
klk

Trad climber
cali
May 6, 2011 - 10:59pm PT
pat, "grommet" is jargon for "kid." anders was explaining where the word came from.

one of the cool things about yr gill movie is that bouldering now is so dominated by pre-teen and teenage boys, that many American climbers have a tough time thinking of adults participating in it at all. really good for audiences in the US to see multiple generations of bouldering.

Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2011 - 12:15am PT
All right, thanks. That makes sense, and I
appreciate it.
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2011 - 03:23pm PT
Both of my shoulders hurt like heck, since that tiny
little bouldering escapade, and I am sore all over...
in part because of the orthobionomy probably...
My day in the sun feels like some tiny flash of light
in a carabiner some instant of some warm afternoon
a whole lot of decades ago...
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2011 - 11:34pm PT
Got together with my good friend Dave Williams,
with whom I rode the freights a number of years
ago. He was a professor and wanted to learn how,
so phoned me one day and said I should take him
on a trip. It was good fun. He was passing
through today, so we met for dinner... Friendships
are the most important thing.
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2011 - 02:49am PT
keep on keepin' on...
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2011 - 04:54pm PT
...and on...and on...
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2011 - 10:34pm PT
and on even yet once more...
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2011 - 01:35pm PT
I need to get talking about something.
I keep fiddling with this new film,
haven't had much energy to make the last
technical steps... Had a couple of strange
panic-like attacks recently, and yesterday
evening. Thought I was done with those.
I seem not to be bothered by them, and I just
sit there and watch them happen... pretty
subtle and nothing dramatic,
but my body (or mind) must be sending me a
message... of anxiety or something... about
what, I don't know. Maybe it has to do with
the realization that Ryan will post his
new photos so people can see how out of shape
I've gotten. I look a little like that mall-cop
actor... sad. It was weird trying to pull myself
up on tiny holds. Felt as though I had tied
a couple of bowling balls to my fanny pack.
If I could get my feet off the ground it was
one of those moments when the shutter would fly...
Ryan is a great guy, though. Glad I met him.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Run like the wind.
May 9, 2011 - 01:51pm PT
Hey Pat

I had a dream about you either last night or the night before. You were telling me something in that low voice you used at the start of your video, when you're talking to your kid. I have bad ears and I could see your mouth moving but couldn't make out the words.

It was very frustrating! Next time you intrude on one of my dreams, brother, SPEAK UP WILLYA! What with all this ringing in my ears its hard to hear my dreams sometimes.

No hidden message here dude. I really had that dream. I was all, 'huh?'

"HUH???!!!"

Lol.

DMT
stilltrying

Trad climber
washington indiana
May 9, 2011 - 02:06pm PT
I am looking forward to your next DVD. I thought the first one was excellent and as a not so good climber approaching 60 there where many wonderful touches that I could relate to. Passing on your love of climbing to your Daughter in a calm , collected, thoughtful manner was a highlight and something many folks taking others out to the rock could learn from. Especially if they are impatient and pushy instead of sending the message that climbing offers more than just getting to the top. Your fall actually startled me and was pretty awesome once I realized you were o.k. Could example of "shit happens" to even the most experienced of climbers. What you said about relationships is so true. The last thing my Father gave me before passing on 10 years ago was a coffeee cup that says "Always remember that true value is found in relationships" By my estimate you have had and have many true and meaningful relationships that would fill many lifetimes. Good luck on finishing your project.
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2011 - 07:04pm PT
Thank you so very much for those kind words.
Of course it takes one who is the measure to
BE the measure...

The dream... must be that you know I am saying something,
but I'm not succeeding at making clear what it is I'm saying....
I think I'm saying things to myself as well that I don't understand
or don't exactly "hear"...
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2011 - 12:23am PT
I made some really good progress today on the last stages
of the film, continuity... post production, that sort of
stuff.... which are fancy words for trying to figure out
which end is up... if it's a good film, how to make last
minute tightenings....
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