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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 19, 2013 - 05:31am PT
I don't know Jan, I asked you - do other animals have genetic karma, in YOUR theory? I can't read you mind yet you know! :)

DMR
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 19, 2013 - 09:27am PT
Largo leaves, Truthdweller arrives...

Coincidence?

Has anyone ever seen the both of them in the same place?


Praise God for critical thinking!
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 19, 2013 - 09:51am PT
Everyone seems to take a turn climbing into the Inflatable Bounce Room and swinging at the Loyal Opposition with Nurf Bats.

Religions tastes don't seem to account for it. All have taken their swings, some mightily, some soft pokes, but round and round we go.

The Circle is Unbroken.

WHACK!

Hahahahha. It doesn't hurt. Not even the pride :) If Largo fails to return at some point? Well, how fricken zen is that?

DMT

ps. I love Werner, he is not crazy. Though some of his alternate IDs certainly are hahahahahah.

pps. Norton? :* Kisses

ppps. MikeL? Wishing you holiday happiness (*)(*)

pppps. Jan? Love yas
FortMentäl

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Dec 19, 2013 - 10:28am PT
Knapped tool edges dating back thousands of years are routinely demonstrated in the cutting of meat and hides by experts who know what they are doing. The fragments not only cut very well but often hold their edge after continued use.

While this is true in certain cases, a Neanderthal-age cutting tool found in a flea market is unlikely for many, very good reasons. Any chance you were told the name of the particular cave man that knapped it? Now THAT could convince me!
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Dec 19, 2013 - 10:46am PT

"Did you know Jesus Christ was a Baptist?"...


What was his skin, eye, and hair color???...




EDITED:

Shoe size???...

and did he prefer C4 or Onyx???...



Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 19, 2013 - 10:51am PT
Locker

when you have a spare hour and a half

http://vimeo.com/51703552
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Dec 19, 2013 - 11:04am PT


This one is better...

...

and more entertaining...

LOL!!!...

MikeL

climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
Dec 19, 2013 - 11:25am PT
Everyone seems to take a turn climbing into the Inflatable Bounce Room and swinging at the Loyal Opposition with Nurf Bats. . . . All have taken their swings, some mightily, some soft pokes, but round and round we go.

Depends what you're looking for, what your intentions are, DMT.

If you want to hurt or challenge others because you're sure they're wrong and you have to set the world right, then there's not much that you bring to a forum other than aversion. You're simply throwing hot oil over a chinese wall at someone else who's probably doing it to you. People in this scenario tend to employ a lot of cuss words, ad hominems, and dogma of various sorts.

If you want to try your ideas out on others to see how well they are constructed or considered, then a forum or thread can be a personally useful place. But this approach uses other people's intellect and energies without their permission sometimes. Devil's advocates tend to show up in force here. Some people like to start a fight, back away from it, and then watch them for enjoyment, too.

If you simply enjoy the give-and-take of a conversation where all things can possibly exist as part and parcel of a whole that you cannot possibly understand in its totality, then participating on a forum can be an enjoyable dance that brings its own virtuous, intrinsic rewards. In other words, one enjoins for the feeling, the experience, the movement of the conversation--but without objective, goals, or intention toward achievement. It's sort of like listening to a song or music that you love. There is a joy to it, although that might not be the best word that I can think of to describe it.
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Dec 19, 2013 - 01:52pm PT
Well put Mike L as usual.

I've learned more science on this thread than anything and reconnected with the scientific mindset after 30 years teaching in a humanities department. I've also received a great review of Buddhism and Vedic knowledge thanks to some of the contributors.

Meanwhile, DMT, I thought I had answered your question. Then when you complained, I went back and read my answer and realized we were having a Japanese-American cross cultural misunderstanding. I think I am being straight forward and any Japanese would recognize that as a declarative statement, but I do frequently confuse Americans with my indirect answers.

Meanwhile, animal karma is an interesting subject to contemplate. I think they are much more limited in their possibilities but even within the range of their genetic programming, they exhibit characteristics from time to time that one would associate with a higher level of intelligence and compassion that the species average.

For a thought provoking and entertaining look at this, check out the website of an organization run by a friend of mine. It seems to me she is being too anthropocentric about the wild animals she is rescuing, on the other hand, it occurs to me that she is providing them the safety and security which gives them the opportunity to live out a higher level of karma than they otherwise would be able to.

Another way of looking at it is that she is speeding up the evolution of a select number of animals.If this is true, then they have the potential to live at a different level, than just surviving normally affords. Sounds like human life doesn't it?

https://www.facebook.com/EarthfireInstitute
WBraun

climber
Dec 19, 2013 - 02:02pm PT
The animal kingdom does not incur karmic reactions.

Animals do not stray from their true nature.

Human beings become worst then any animals at times plus go against their true nature all the time.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 19, 2013 - 02:10pm PT
Jan you still didn't answer the question but what-ev.

DMT
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 19, 2013 - 02:20pm PT
Maybe that's where, "NEVER piss off the Doc!" came from. Actually its because we carried needles thick enough to breath through...that used to help keep 'em quiet.
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 19, 2013 - 02:22pm PT
Make your silhouette small DMT, Norton, et al.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
Ha, the exception in this thread...profanity is FREQUENTLY employed at those bringing into the forum the subject it calls for.

When I came back from Iraq I had a low tolerance for imbeciles like this
Delusiondweller

Yes Jesus was all about being intolerant to the use of profanity, but for killing people you don't like

What a true Hypocrite, unbelievable, but so typical of these right wing fake Christians

I would bet that Jesus could care less about profanity, and call you every bad word in the book.
FortMentäl

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Dec 19, 2013 - 02:28pm PT
"See that Iraqi over there in the white man dress? Put the crosshairs on his chest and if he gives one of our guys any problems put a round in it." I thought, "Heck, I can do that and then I'll know what to do with him!"

I was bored over there, and I needed something to do. Although I have lost that desire, people like this need to be careful with what's coming out of their mouth for in a small community such as this, I wouldn't be surprised that somebody would retaliate and make someone's day...just sayin.


....making Christians proud!

Particularly Merkin Christians!
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 19, 2013 - 02:33pm PT
Lol. Duck!

Thank you for your service. I mean that. I would never question what you went through, without qualification nor barb.

DMT
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2013 - 02:41pm PT
What is really disturbing to me now is the Phony War On Christmas that these hypocrites are whining about.

Atheists can care less about the Christmas holiday, just don't use Federal Money or land to exploit it.

The reason people say Happy Holidays is so they don't offend the other 80% of the world's population, like Jewish and Islamic people. They don't celebrate Christmas,
Atheists do celebrate Christmas, because it's a Day off work.
We celebrate Christ's B-day on his real D-day, which NO ONE KNOWS for sure what date that was, so hence Never Celebrated.

The Right Wing War on Christmas is just more Projection by the very hypocrites that have turned Christmas into a big Corporate cash cow of Presents, Santa and other pagan rituals.

The Date of Christmas was picked only because it was a Pagan Day of Celebration, The Winter Solstice.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 19, 2013 - 02:42pm PT
Make your silhouette small DMT, Norton, et al.

Kill your child is he happens to hit you (Levituguts)
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 19, 2013 - 02:47pm PT
There you go again Dr. F, taking things out of context...

Where was my heart over in IRAQ? Exactly, YOU DONT KNOW. It obviously wasn't seeking after God's own heart, ya think?

"Hypocrite"...man you're "lost" spiritually speaking..praise God. Noah was a hypocrite, Saul also known as Paul was a hypocrite, Matthew Mark Luke John, and all the other names in the Bible except for Jesus Christ, we're hypocrites. So, what's your point? If you're looking for perfection you're looking at the wrong person dude. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all my heart with all my soul and with all my mind," THIS and ONLY THIS is where you are going to find perfection.
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 19, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
rSin falls for it too...surprising? Not at all....glory to God.
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