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Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Dec 18, 2013 - 09:16pm PT
Ward,

I'm envious that you're related to Jimmie Carter while I'm related to Richard Nixon through my Quaker relatives. LOL. I read Carter's book on the American Revolution in South Carolina and Georgia (The Hornet's Nest), which was quite interesting. Like most northerners I hadn't heard much about that.

So far I have intensively researched all of my great grandparents and their ancestors and one set of g-g-g-grandparents and theirs. I think I've uncovered enough interesting material to write a book someday that could be published by the U. of Texas, New Mexico, or Oklahoma press.

And if I hadn't been a believer in the role of genetics in "karma" before, I am now. Many current attractions, problems and incompatibilities were generations in the making.I found researching family history did more to explain these than any psychology I ever read. Quakers and trail driving cowboys, circuit riding preachers and outlaws, it makes science vs woo woo look tame!
WBraun

climber
Dec 18, 2013 - 10:12pm PT
What an obsessive envious stupid nutcase Norton is ........
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Dec 18, 2013 - 10:37pm PT

...

^^^

Looks like "Shatter"...

WBraun

climber
Dec 18, 2013 - 11:13pm PT
Norton you're crazier and more deluded then the Westboro Baptist Church people.

Your meds are not working anymore.

Go to your doctor and get them adjusted.

Wow man, .... are you ever out there dude, crazy ass bizarrely insane.
jgill

Boulder climber
Colorado
Dec 18, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
Four Duckies: Offspring of WB Duck
Four Duckies: Offspring of WB Duck
Credit: jogill


Now Daddy, calm down!
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 18, 2013 - 11:21pm PT
Jan does genetic karma apply to, oh say wolf packs or gorillas, in your thinking? I'm curious, if you will indulge me.

DMT
paul roehl

Boulder climber
california
Dec 18, 2013 - 11:21pm PT
"Paul, open the Bible to Genesis 2:16-17:

And the LORD God commanded the man,saying,Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

God gave Adam a CHOICE, the right choice, and the wrong choice. God introduced sin to Adam for the first time. Why? I really dont know."

Of course, but the question is how can someone who doesn't know evil from good be held responsible for making the right choice? I think there's a flaw in the foundation of a dogma that declares sin entered the world as a process of innocence.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 18, 2013 - 11:25pm PT
They blamed the woman.

It echoes throughout Christianity. It's the very foundation of the faith.

There is no escaping it, no artful dodge, no sleight of hand no clever lie that can cover it up.

They blamed the woman. No presumption of innocence, no. They cast her out.

DMT
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Dec 19, 2013 - 12:02am PT
And if I hadn't been a believer in the role of genetics in "karma" before, I am now.

Jan, I'm way ahead of you on that one.

My mother's mother was a Harland:

Credit: Ward Trotter

Need I say more?

Credit: Ward Trotter

Credit: Ward Trotter
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 19, 2013 - 12:10am PT
They blame the woman.

Wrong...

God created man first..then the woman from his bones...she was of his body, not the other way around. Where was Adam when Eve made that choice? Why didn't he stop her? Then when asked by God why he did what he did, he blames it on the woman. Then Eve shifts the blame on the serpent. Things haven't changed much have they?

"Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

And the man said,The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree,and I did eat.

And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 19, 2013 - 12:11am PT
There is no way a thinking person in this century believes that horsesh#t. I saw your defective womb comment illusion crafter.

DMT
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 19, 2013 - 12:19am PT
Hey Mr. Braun, I don't know you well enough to call you Werner...

Norton you're crazier and more deluded then the Westboro Baptist Church people.

Did you know Jesus Christ was a Baptist?
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 19, 2013 - 12:25am PT
I saw your defective womb comment illusion crafter.

You're too funny...Old, but funny
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Dec 19, 2013 - 12:29am PT
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Matthew 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

...Through Jesus, is the narrow way, the only way to God!
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Dec 19, 2013 - 12:46am PT
DMT-

Why wouldn't each species have its own genetic karma? If you study animals at all, you know they have distinct personalities.

Ward-

Wow! Another one of my hobbies is studying the Titanic. My books are all in Japan, otherise I could look up whether any Harlands or Wolffs died on the Titanic.

Here's one from my family. My father and mother's family lived half a mile from each other in the early 1700'sin Virginia. They wouldn't have had much contact as one owned a large plantation and the others (mother's maternal relatives) were Quakers who later organized the Underground Railway out of North Carolina. Then the Quakers moved to Indiana.

My father's ancestor and my mother's father's family (Baptists)were both at the Battle of Shiloh, on opposite sides, and my father's was taken a prisoner by Union forces at Vicksburg. He was sent to a POW camp in Indianapolis where most of the prisoners died of disease and exposure. Those who survived, did so because religious groups, primarily Quakers, brought supplies to prisoners of both sides. It's entirely probable, that my Quaker ancestor kept my Confederate ancestor alive.
FortMentäl

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Dec 19, 2013 - 12:47am PT
Neanderthal chert scraping tool from Arcy-sur-Cure, France. Picked up in a Paris flea market.

I call BS. No way it'd still be sharp, especially a moist environment. I find chert and flint-shards in a lot different places out here, much of which is definitely NOT sharp, even after only 500 years.
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 19, 2013 - 01:19am PT
December 18: IGNOMINY of IGNORANCE

“Teach me Thy way, O LORD; I will walk in Thy truth” (Psalm 86:11). “Through desire a man, having separated himself, seeketh and intermeddleth with all wisdom. A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself… then cometh also contempt, and with ignominy reproach... The wellspring of wisdom [is] as a flowing brook” (Proverbs 18:1-4). “Whatsoever things are true… think on these things” (Philippians 4:8).

The ignorance that ISN’T bliss Ignores the truth that God will show, Which only fools would dare dismiss, Content with what they think they know.

The works of God are on display That show His glory in creation. The Word of God will teach His way That we may walk in His salvation.

The prophecies that Christ fulfilled Should silence those who yet are scorning, But ignorance will not be stilled When stubborn hearts refuse God’s warning.

The reputation of God’s name Robs ignorance of its defense, Then ignominy comes with shame With judgment as its consequence.

Yet through desire man departs From arrogance so prevalent, Discerning ignorance in hearts Of those refusing to repent.

We come to wells of truth to drink With words of wisdom like a brook. Upon these things we’re called to think, Which we discover in God’s Book.

Lord,whatsoever things are true Which You reveal make us free. We know these things concerning You Are true for all eternity!

Your Word,Lord,like a flowing well Has more than satisfied our thirst! It prompts our hearts to go and tell The way that You have loved us first!

Lord,thank You for removing thus The ignominy of our sin. Your righteousness now covers us, Imputed when You entered in!"

http://quiettimepoems.blogspot.com/
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Dec 19, 2013 - 01:20am PT
Chert is silica dioxide. Basically quartz that has been deposited by a diagenetic event.

We get glass from melting down very clean sand, and both quartz and glass are extremely stable chemically.

A rock fragment could easily hold an edge for tens of thousands of years.

Carry on....
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Dec 19, 2013 - 01:27am PT
A rock fragment could easily hold an edge for tens of thousands of years.

Knapped tool edges dating back thousands of years are routinely demonstrated in the cutting of meat and hides by experts who know what they are doing. The fragments not only cut very well but often hold their edge after continued use.
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Dec 19, 2013 - 02:17am PT
Not all religions are against science.


Wired Monk Preparing to Meditate
Wired Monk Preparing to Meditate
Credit: Jan



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