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WBraun

climber
Jul 12, 2013 - 11:58am PT
Richard Dork-ins -- "In a universe of blind physical forces ...."

What jackass statement by the renown mental speculator and big guesser.

He's the only one blind as a bat just like fruitcake and Dr Failed, etc etc .....
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Potemkin Village
Jul 12, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
It is astonishing that an ancient theology can have such a powerful grip on so many human minds even in the 21st century.

I think the so-called "curse of knowledge" is at play here.

We have to remember the majority American public 20th century was raised, by and large without science, without years upon years of physics (in particular engineering physics), chemistry and biology. So the alternative is the worldview (explaining how life works) provided by our parents and our culture, which is by default and by and large religious, theistic, theological.

Once it's in the blood, it's almost impossible to get it out.

Hope lies in future generations.
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Jul 12, 2013 - 12:14pm PT
He's got the whole world in His hands,
He's got the whole world in His hands,
He's got the whole world in His hands,
He's got the whole world in His hands.

He's got my brothers and my sisters in His hands,
He's got my brothers and my sisters in His hands,
He's got my brothers and my sisters in His hands,
He's got the whole world in His hands.

He's got the sun and the rain in His hands,
He's got the moon and the stars in His hands,
He's got the wind and the clouds in His hands,
He's got the whole world in His hands.

He's got the rivers and the mountains in His hands,
He's got the oceans and the seas in His hands,
He's got you and he's got me in His hands,
He's got the whole world in His hands.

He's got everybody here in His hands,
He's got everybody there in His hands,
He's got everybody everywhere in His hands,
He's got the whole world in His hands.



...He's got the Red Sea in His hands,
He's got the whole world in His hands!
WBraun

climber
Jul 12, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
since these acts by God were all Made up.

You jackasses all make up sh!t imitating God.

Money is backed by GOLD.

You jackasses made up more paper money than there is gold backing it.

You fuk up everything you touch.

You poison the whole planet with your stupidity.

Thus you jackasses make up myths and bullsh!t as reality all the time.

You are a total myth and bullsh!t by your direct acts.

Your words are all lies by your direct actions.

You stupid modern cavemen pretend acting like advanced men.

Dr Failed and the fruitcakes are the real owners of myths and direct stupidity ......

Dr. F.

Boulder climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 12, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
I didn't make up any of that sh#t


Credit: Dr. F.
Dr. F.

Boulder climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 12, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.
Are you talking to me?
Dr. F.

Boulder climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 12, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
Whacha listening to?
Whacha listening to?
Credit: Dr. F.
splitter

Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Jul 12, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
WT - "Heaven" -- one of my favorite LLB tunes, also! Gracias!

God Did Not Part The Red Sea.
That is a fable.
Alice Cooper believes He did...

"If it says Jonah was swallowed by a whale, that means if it says it, it meant it. ..."

Righteous dude!
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Potemkin Village
Jul 12, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
So there you are. The usual. Another entrée by Gobe, another dessert topping by Braun, and more dribble by an appeaser (or attention seeker by appeasement, entertainment, provocation) whose main interest it seems is to post, post, post.... ad nauseum.

Six months ago, or whenever it was, there was all this "Post up, Go-B" "Sorry, Go-Be" "Come back, Go-Be, we miss you" - well you got what you wished for. Ever more cut and past at bronze age value...

This is still a democracy whose well-being depends very much on its citizens being informed. Compassion or sympathy is necessary but not sufficient. Education - an education commensurate with the complexities, powers of the democracy, an education that's not so easy, that takes hard work to acquire - is also necessary for its continued health.

You reap what you sow.

Give me a weschrist to an appeasing, spineless Neville Chamberlain any day. Give me a weschrist to a simpleton any day. Give me a weschrist to a pollyannish, bleeding heart left wing nut any day. They are as crazy stupid as the right wing nuts.

Maybe one needs to have years upon years of life experience in the sciences to get it - to get how insulting to the 21st century, science-informed human intellect arrogant fundamentalist Christians or Muslims can be expressing their archaic worldviews in the 21st century or to get the anger and frustration scientists like Richard Dawkins evince in the interest of greater understanding and higher performance.

But make no mistake, it has its negative effects on any complex democracy being challenged to bring solutions to its complex problems, and we see it - over and over and over - in our world democracies today.

You reap what you sow.
splitter

Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Jul 12, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
So does Dave Mustaine...
Dr. F.

Boulder climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 12, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
I reap alot of laughs
Thanks for the inspiration

My advice, lighten up
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Potemkin Village
Jul 12, 2013 - 01:22pm PT
Make no mistake, it's either (a) deal with these serious issues through education and such tools as the internet, negotiation, democratic rule, etc. today; or (b) deal with them on the battle field tomorrow.
splitter

Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Jul 12, 2013 - 01:49pm PT
DM (Megadeath) Fieldy & Head (Korn) JF (BS) awesome testimonies...
splitter

Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Jul 12, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
Cassie was a Believer. She just watched her best friend (Rachel Scott) get her head blown off for answering, "Yes!" to these guys...
10 of the 11 students they killed where born again Christians!
10 of the 11 students they killed where born again Christians!
Credit: splitter
Cassie didn't fear death, she also said yes..

Cassie Bernall = Hardcore (Believer) RIP
cintune

climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Jul 12, 2013 - 06:26pm PT
It's interesting how the urge to instill fear and at the same time preach love are mingled in Christianity (though it's a pattern of other faiths too).

It creates a primal dissonance, playing guilt, doubt, and mortal terror against a promise of unimaginable bliss and reconciliation.

So it's really not surprising that there are so many Christians.
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Jul 12, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
The Parable of the Sower
Luke 8:4 And when a great multitude had gathered, and they had come to Him from every city, He spoke by a parable: 5 “A sower went out to sow his seed. And as he sowed, some fell by the wayside; and it was trampled down, and the birds of the air devoured it. 6 Some fell on rock; and as soon as it sprang up, it withered away because it lacked moisture. 7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up with it and choked it. 8 But others fell on good ground, sprang up, and yielded a crop a hundredfold.” When He had said these things He cried, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear!”

The Purpose of Parables
9 Then His disciples asked Him, saying, “What does this parable mean?”

10 And He said, “To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that

‘Seeing they may not see,
And hearing they may not understand.’

The Parable of the Sower Explained
11 “Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. 13 But the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, who believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away. 14 Now the ones that fell among thorns are those who, when they have heard, go out and are choked with cares, riches, and pleasures of life, and bring no fruit to maturity. 15 But the ones that fell on the good ground are those who, having heard the word with a noble and good heart, keep it and bear fruit with patience.



Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life. 9 And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart.
cintune

climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Jul 12, 2013 - 07:18pm PT
Yeah, and the everlasting life thing. He who sows carrot seeds will also need to find a good stick.
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Jul 13, 2013 - 08:51am PT
Acts 13:16 Then Paul stood up, and motioning with his hand said, “Men of Israel, and you who fear God, listen: 17 The God of this people Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an uplifted arm He brought them out of it. 18 Now for a time of about forty years He put up with their ways in the wilderness. 19 And when He had destroyed seven nations in the land of Canaan, He distributed their land to them by allotment.

20 “After that He gave them judges for about four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet. 21 And afterward they asked for a king; so God gave them Saul the son of Kish, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, for forty years. 22 And when He had removed him, He raised up for them David as king, to whom also He gave testimony and said, ‘I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after My own heart, who will do all My will.’ 23 From this man’s seed, according to the promise, God raised up for Israel a Savior—Jesus— 24 after John had first preached, before His coming, the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel. 25 And as John was finishing his course, he said, ‘Who do you think I am? I am not He. But behold, there comes One after me, the sandals of whose feet I am not worthy to loose.’

26 “Men and brethren, sons of the family of Abraham, and those among you who fear God, to you the word of this salvation has been sent. 27 For those who dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they did not know Him, nor even the voices of the Prophets which are read every Sabbath, have fulfilled them in condemning Him. 28 And though they found no cause for death in Him, they asked Pilate that He should be put to death. 29 Now when they had fulfilled all that was written concerning Him, they took Him down from the tree and laid Him in a tomb. 30 But God raised Him from the dead. 31 He was seen for many days by those who came up with Him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are His witnesses to the people. 32 And we declare to you glad tidings—that promise which was made to the fathers. 33 God has fulfilled this for us their children, in that He has raised up Jesus. As it is also written in the second Psalm:

‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.’

34 And that He raised Him from the dead, no more to return to corruption, He has spoken thus:

‘I will give you the sure mercies of David.’

35 Therefore He also says in another Psalm:

‘You will not allow Your Holy One to see corruption.’

36 “For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell asleep, was buried with his fathers, and saw corruption; 37 but He whom God raised up saw no corruption. 38 Therefore let it be known to you, brethren, that through this Man is preached to you the forgiveness of sins; 39 and by Him everyone who believes is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses. 40 Beware therefore, lest what has been spoken in the prophets come upon you:

41 ‘Behold, you despisers,
Marvel and perish!
For I work a work in your days,
A work which you will by no means believe,
Though one were to declare it to you.’”
(Habakkuk 1:5)
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Jul 13, 2013 - 08:58am PT
those of you whom
must continually and repeatedly
share the same damn echoes
over and over

only convince your audience that
you are entirely insecure
in your psychological subscriptions.

you don't really believe in nothing
so you re-echo the same damn
thing over and over,
and actually these echos are
not even yours
but some past fool's utterings,

all in your attempt to convince
us of your convictions
and to sell your own heart some hope.

im totally pitful too.
but at least my pity has some breadth.
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Jul 13, 2013 - 09:12am PT
Isaiah 55:1 “Ho! Everyone who thirsts,
Come to the waters;
And you who have no money,
Come, buy and eat.
Yes, come, buy wine and milk
Without money and without price.
2 Why do you spend money for what is not bread,
And your wages for what does not satisfy?
Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good,
And let your soul delight itself in abundance.
3 Incline your ear, and come to Me.
Hear, and your soul shall live;
And I will make an everlasting covenant with you—
The sure mercies of David.

Luke 5:31 Jesus answered and said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
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