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Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Apr 6, 2013 - 02:36pm PT
Confusion signifies ferment and growth, so don't knock confusion. Minds set in stone are the real problem.

Mantak Chia is a favorite of mine too blue. I have a lot of his posters showing the acupuncture meridians and chakras that I show my classes. Did you ever read his books on tantric sex? When I want to shake my students out of their lethargy, I make them read Chia and consider sex as a time honored spiritual path.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Apr 6, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
Yea the "book" is a crutch, to help me through the passages I've not yet memorized.
But the meanings through the words are spiritual, and add to my consciousness.

Just like what you and I have learned about Abraham Lincoln. Our lives today are partly
forged by what he did hundreds of years ago. Even though we weren't there to witness it.
What we've read, and heard through folklore, is our conscious awareness of his acts.


BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Apr 6, 2013 - 02:59pm PT
Hi Jan
Did you ever read his books on tantric sex?

No I've kindda been afraid of that one, since I havnt had a steady gal in a while.. LOL!
But i do have 3 of Chia's books. And I condone them immensely! I first picked one up
back in 98' it imediately changed the way I climbed. They've brought me sooo much
Awareness of movement and breathing. It's helped me in all aspects of physical life.
Down to walking! I think it should be taught in our schools.
MikeL

climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
Apr 6, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
I want to start meditating as a way to mellow out, clear my mind for the day, and help my concentration.

For what? To get things done in the world? To manipulate things? So that you can achieve more of what you want? So that you can be a better person?

Wrong tool. This particular tool if properly applied and taken to the end of the line will obviate, obliterate, and even deny their very existence. You're looking for emptiness, and it's all around you. It's nothing.

I think drugs are in order for you. I have all sorts of acquaintances, friends, are lovers who are using them to good effect (I'm told). I have a sister who's a shrink, and she is very respectful of the managed use of drugs. Alcohol, taken prudently, is pretty good for mild anxiety.



Rock on, Blu. Tai Chi is great. (That was a nice description as way of introduction.) And although the Bible is not my guide or benchmark, I think you're plugged in, dude. Don't take this poorly, but you remind me of some of Shakespeare's fools.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
For those of you interested in meditation, here are some things a few researchers have discovered:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/search/?keyword=Meditation
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Apr 6, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
Now Mike. We have talked before.

Don't put words into my mouth. Please.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Apr 6, 2013 - 04:06pm PT
Thanks MikeL! Complements are hard to come by around here..
So right back at ya!

The Fool knows that the only true madness is to recognize this world as rational
^Shakespeare

Takes one to know one,, Eah?
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Apr 6, 2013 - 04:46pm PT
Blue Sea Slug
Blue Sea Slug
Credit: TomCochrane
MikeL

climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
Apr 6, 2013 - 05:13pm PT
Base:

I know. It's unsanitary.

Honestly, there's too much made of meditation. Then again, it is like a can opener on the universe if you throw yourself into it.

Perhaps I was josh'ing about the drugs. I'm agnostic, really. You see, I don't think it makes a difference one way or the other. You are what and where you cannot help to be. You will continue to face the same challenge until you resolve it, and then you'll be on to the next. One could get anxious about all of that, but there's no need since you aren't doing any of it to begin with. It's all happening to you. It only seems like you're the one in control. Forget control. It's a dysfunctional concept. They all are.

So what you're facing, you might as well release into. Karma yoga says: get into it. Release yourself. Be that which you cannot help to be. When you do, then you'll see it kinda like one of those rides in the amusement park. Not really real, but interesting,

Personally (and I'm no wise man), I'd say do everything you can think of. Balls out means let go.
MikeL

climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
Apr 6, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
Tom:

What the f*ck is that?
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Apr 6, 2013 - 05:40pm PT
The Fool knows that the only true madness is to recognize this world as rational

There is a lot of common sense in that quote. People can be pretty horrible to each other. Think of those guys who sit in cubicles and fly predator drones around snuffing people out. Killing people has become a literal video game.

All of this is fine with the faithful. How?
jogill

climber
Colorado
Apr 6, 2013 - 06:02pm PT
Personally (and I'm no wise man), I'd say do everything you can think of. Balls out means let go

With no moral restraints? Hannibal Lector?



;>|
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Apr 6, 2013 - 06:53pm PT
I lived my younger days like that. I've done so much crazy stuff. My wife doesn't even know all of the crazy stuff that I've done. I collect experiences like some people do coins. I'm just not happy unless I've got some sort of adventure on my mind.

I'm backing out of the pressure cooker now that my son is almost through college. Being a parent is a huge obligation, and I stopped jumping and most climbing after he was born. I had an off heading opening off an antenna, a totally stupid mistake, and flew through the wires and missed hitting one. I got to the ground and was shivering with fear. I had a 3 year old and almost got whacked. The idea of getting whacked had never really bugged me much before that. So I toned it down and went on long hikes and stuff. Not really enough. That is how you get whacked.

Just. Like. That. Happy one minute and toast the next.

I lost half of my knee last year to avascular necrosis of the tibial plateau. I was lucky that they could replace and do a graft. I'll never run or do anymore 3 month solo hikes again, though. Fortunately I have done a lot of sailing lately, and I went out and bought a good small cruiser. There are some smallish (less than 30 feet) boats that have good reputations for crossing oceans and what not, and they aren't necessarily expensive. I picked up mine for 12 grand. I'm going to quit in two years or less and take off. I'm planning on heading to Virginia, where the boat sits, and sail it all summer and beefing it up for a real adventure.

Sailboats get really expensive to maintain when they get to around 4 or 5 tons of displacement. If you keep it small, they are actually really affordable. Cheaper than a new car. I have everything new on this baby, and with minimal work, she will go anywhere that I have the ability to take her. I'm totally stoked. About 18 months from now, I should have the house paid off and will hit the water for good. Maybe I'll find Charlie Porter.

Happy are those who dream dreams and are willing to pay the price to make them come true.
--Carl Boenish

1973 Albin Vega. 27 foot little sucker.
1973 Albin Vega. 27 foot little sucker.
Credit: BASE104

The older boats are snug, but more seaworthy than a lot of modern desi...
The older boats are snug, but more seaworthy than a lot of modern designs. A beamier boat has trouble righting itself after a knockdown.
Credit: BASE104
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Apr 6, 2013 - 07:02pm PT
Your boat can take you about anywhere on a planet that is over 70% covered with water.

Two of my NASA JPL colleagues/friends with lots of finger prints on the Mars rovers and space probes, sold their house and took off on their boat, up the coast to San Francisco, and currently in La Paz on the southern end of Baja California:

http://www.grenander.com/Senta_II/Home.html


My youngest brother and his wife and two dogs have lived on their boat for the past couple of years, going all the way up the Columbia River to Lewiston Idaho, exploring the coast of British Columbia and Vancouver Island, currently exploring down the coast of Mexico...


Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 07:37pm PT
Base:
CLANE. ( "clean" in So Cal mall-speak)

Taking on crew?

Just asking.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2013 - 07:51pm PT
Any of you regular thinking folks (not right wingers) have any words about the Philosophical writing of Ayn Rand
Credit: Dr. F.
I haven't read any of it, probably never will

My libertarian friend told me that 148 out 150 Big Name CEOs say that Atlas Shrugged is their favorite book, I responded that 148 out of 150 big name CEOs are also confirmed Sociopaths
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 07:59pm PT
Any of you regular thinking folks (not right wingers) have any words about the Philosophical writing of Ayn Rand

Well..........
Objectivism
Is like schmectivism
Thou can be assured
If the world is all Liberal
Where's the wealth
To come frummmm ?
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Apr 6, 2013 - 08:05pm PT
I would delete the above post, Dr. F. Ayn Rand deserves her own thread full of political whackos.

Trust me. She is ideological and political. Nothing to do with this thread that I can think of.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
Trust me. She is ideological and political. Nothing to do with this thread that I can think of.r

People on this thread ideological and political....pray tell? ..oh banish the thought....
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Apr 7, 2013 - 12:22am PT
How Life May Have First Emerged On Earth: Foldable Proteins in a High-Salt Environment

Interesting observations and research around our proteins being basically composed of 20 common amino acids - ten biosynthetic, ten prebiotic - and whether those ten prebiotic amino acids alone can achieve [protein] 'foldability'.
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