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go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Feb 27, 2013 - 05:07pm PT
When we lose loved ones to death the separation is HEART-WRENCHING!

At the death of Lazarus, Jesus said to Martha, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?” She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

Then, when Mary came where Jesus was, and saw Him, she fell down at His feet, saying to Him, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died.” Therefore, when Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who came with her weeping, He groaned in the spirit and was troubled. And He said, “Where have you laid him?” They said to Him, “Lord, come and see.” Jesus wept.

Jesus wept, knowing full well that He was going to raise Lazarus from the Dead, Jesus still wept for He loved them!

More so those that do not enter into resurrection and the life in the Kingdom of God are the ones we should feel sorry for, because they are without hope, and for what? (For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?) JESUS PAID IT ALL!

And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Stay spiritually hungry and thirsty my friends!
WBraun

climber
Feb 27, 2013 - 06:04pm PT
The robot arm is inferior to the real arm.

So what is too their credit making this inferior imitation to the superior real arm.

It's all already being done perfectly and these guys think they're advancing making an inferior imitation.

Such an illusion ......
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 27, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
Largo: ...the experience of digging for grubs in the rain forest is not exactly what I am driving at here, though the isness of same is robust.

That's a most gracious qualification in the face of the fact they lack grub masters and five formal levels of grubbery.
John M

climber
Feb 27, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
Everybody is a fool until they are not.

Of those on this thread recently, I rate Jan as having the least ego. Ego is the creation of the lower self which blocks the knowing and experience of ones higher self. It takes the place of the higher self. Not that I have read this entire thread. I haven't.

Just my opinion.

drugs can help one understand that there is more then one level to life, but they can not help you reach the spiritual realm. They can be used to force open the door to the astral realm. The astral realm is not heaven/the higher spiritual realms. The astral realm is the next level above the gross material realm. You can not reach heaven by force.

Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2013 - 07:42pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.
Psilocyborg

climber
Feb 27, 2013 - 07:59pm PT
JohnM, you are as right as wrong. Drugs don't do anything.....you do it.

Again it is all a moot point. Spending the gift of your human existence chasing the dragon is completely missing the point in a round about way.

Dr F's cactus pictures are by far the coolest and most inspiring part of this thread.

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 27, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
Werner: The robot arm is inferior to the real arm. So what is too their credit making this inferior imitation to the superior real arm. It's all already being done perfectly and these guys think they're advancing making an inferior imitation.

Such an illusion ......
Yeah, neuroprosthetics, what a friggin' joke. WTF could they even be thinking? I mean, Werner's right - those things suck compared to real arms and legs. Oh, wait, that's right, Werner has all his arms and legs and doesn't need a prosthesis. And come to think of it, the last I checked my hearing aids sucked compared to the ears I had before they got blown out. Good thing he doesn't need any of those either.

The hits just keep coming...
John M

climber
Feb 27, 2013 - 08:22pm PT
Healyje, You are looking at the surface of what Werner said. You need to look deeper. God created your arms and legs. Of course a prosthetic is better then no arm or leg, but wouldn't it be even better to have never lost the arm or leg? The laws of God, Ie Karma are what causes a person to lose an arm or leg. Personal karma and world karma combined. Not everyone who loses an arm or leg does so because of their own karma. Sometimes they take on world karma. But Karma is the ultimate cause. We reap what we sow.
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Feb 27, 2013 - 08:34pm PT
Cool it, Werner. It is a machine, not an arm. It might be a lot stronger, but it still needs batteries or a plug in.
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Feb 27, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
Is Werner still going to bitch when science can regrow a real arm?
John M

climber
Feb 27, 2013 - 08:44pm PT
Werner will then ask when science can create life from nothing. Or at very least from a bunch of chemicals.

LOL..

yes.. I really am laughing. Sometimes this stuff strikes me as being funny.
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Feb 27, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
You ever get a polio shot Werner?

BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Feb 27, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
Explain the laws of Karma so that we have something new to shred.
John M

climber
Feb 27, 2013 - 09:16pm PT
LOL.. Not really interested in being shredded. Besides, I doubt that I know the totality of the laws of karma so what I say would have holes in it. And then people would pick at those holes and we would just go round and round. Should we ever meet up and you are serious about wanting to hear what I have to say, well.. that would be a different story.

One thing that I will say is that the first law of Karma is that you reap what you sow. And that there are cycles to karma, just like there are cycles to life.

I haven't really read this thread so I don't really know much about what you believe. Do you accept that Karma exists?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Feb 27, 2013 - 09:24pm PT
Do you accept that Karma exists?

What reason is there to accept it?

A better question, as usual, is what evidence exists that supports it? O is it the same "evidence" that supports the existence of miracles?
jogill

climber
Colorado
Feb 27, 2013 - 09:30pm PT
The laws of God, Ie Karma are what causes a person to lose an arm or leg

OK, we're into new territory here . . .


;>/
WBraun

climber
Feb 27, 2013 - 09:32pm PT
Karma

For every action there's reaction.

Such basic simple stuff ......
John M

climber
Feb 27, 2013 - 09:33pm PT
;>/

Naw.. I'll bow out. You can go back to whatever you were discussing.
MH2

climber
Feb 27, 2013 - 09:34pm PT
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Feb 27, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
oh werner - please knock it off with the hilarity. I broke a rib cracking up over something you said about a week ago. That thing about the robot arm just ruptured my spleen. You're killing me man!!!
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