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Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 27, 2012 - 09:22pm PT
Since this isn't getting any play on the original posted thread, I might as well post it here. It's got everything: Religion, Science, Music written in Space, NASA Astronaut, Holiday Cheer. What's not to love?






Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

May 2013 bring great things that are out of this world ....



http://www.space.com/19050-first-original-song-space-lyrics.html


http://www.space.com/19041-jewel-in-the-night-astronauts-1st-song-in-space-video.html


Jewel in the Night

By Chris Hadfield, Astronaut, Canadian Space Agency

So bright,
Jewel in the Night,
There in my window below.

So bright,
Dark as the night,
with all of our cities aglow.

It's long been our way,
To honor this day,
And offer goodwill to men.

And though,
Where ever we go,
It's come round to Christmas again.

So far,
Shines ever star,
There without limit to see.

So grand,
Faraway land,
Beckoning, calling to me.

And let it be shown,
Wherever we go,
In all of the wonders above.

With all that we bring,
There's no finer thing,
Than this message, this promise of love.

Love for the families that gather below,
Love for the stranger that you'll never know,
For those who are with you,
who wander above.

So bright,
Jewel in the Night,
There lies the cradle we knew.

Home of,
All that we love,
And all of our memories too.

It shall be our way to wander away,
to take with us all that we know,

And never cease,
This message of peace,
From Bethlehem so long ago.




Playing guitar in space or how to prepare to do so:
http://www.space.com/14657-guitar-learning-play-space.html
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Dec 27, 2012 - 11:11pm PT
Klimmer,

I have no idea what you just said.

Tell some more apocalypse stories. Re-post that timeline. I enjoy apocalyptic ramblings. Why are they always wrong? So far.

I am gathering my info to make a post describing some greenhouse events in the geologic past. They are almost certainly CO2 caused. There were periods of really great vulcanism in the recent (last 500 million year) history of the planet.

There is no reason to doubt that human increase in CO2 will affect climate. The real question is how much? A lot of people complain about climate science because it is difficult to accurately predict how much. When dealing with something as important as the climate, which controls food production and population distribution, it seems like people would all be curious about it.

Instead it has become a political issue. I regret saying this, but the Republican Party in its current carnation doesn't believe in science, but they love engineers who can do all sorts of fancy new killing machines. I'm not kidding. I've had it with the New Right and their bedmates the fundamentalist Christians.

If the Republicans had their way, a lot of science would be censored in my opinion. I can't forgive them for that until they change.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 28, 2012 - 02:21am PT
Pruned more peach trees in SoIll orchard work than I care to remember, tough job if you're really doing it right and definitely skilled labor if you expect a decent crop the following year.
cintune

climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Dec 28, 2012 - 08:11am PT
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Dec 28, 2012 - 08:55am PT
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John 4:31 Meanwhile the disciples were urging Him, saying, “Rabbi, eat.” 32 But He said to them, “I have food to eat that you do not know about.” 33 So the disciples were saying to one another, “No one brought Him anything to eat, did he?” 34 Jesus *said to them, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to accomplish His work. 35 Do you not say, ‘There are yet four months, and then comes the harvest’? Behold, I say to you, lift up your eyes and look on the fields, that they are white for harvest. 36 Already he who reaps is receiving wages and is gathering fruit for life eternal; so that he who sows and he who reaps may rejoice together. 37 For in this case the saying is true, ‘One sows and another reaps.’ 38 I sent you to reap that for which you have not labored; others have labored and you have entered into their labor.”

John 5:19 Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner. 20 For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself is doing; and the Father will show Him greater works than these, so that you will marvel. 21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes. 22 For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son, 23 so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

John 6:35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. 40 For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.”

John 8:26 I have many things to speak and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and the things which I heard from Him, these I speak to the world.” 27 They did not realize that He had been speaking to them about the Father. 28 So Jesus said, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me. 29 And He who sent Me is with Me; He has not left Me alone, for I always do the things that are pleasing to Him."

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me.

John 12:44 And Jesus cried out and said, “He who believes in Me, does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me. 45 He who sees Me sees the One who sent Me. 46 I have come as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain in darkness. 47 If anyone hears My sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. 49 For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak. 50 I know that His commandment is eternal life; therefore the things I speak, I speak just as the Father has told Me.”

... Jesus came down from Heaven and did the works of the Father that only He could do! We but have to believe in Him to have eternal life, thank Him for all He has accomplished!
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 09:00am PT
“I have food to eat that you do not know about.” 33 So the disciples were saying to one another, “No one brought Him anything to eat, did he?” 34 Jesus *said to them, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to accomplish His work. 35 Do you not say, ‘There are yet four months, and then comes the harvest’? Behold, I say to you, lift up your eyes and look on the fields,

Gibberish for those who can't use their god given mind
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 28, 2012 - 09:37am PT
Klimmer,

I have no idea what you just said.

Tell some more apocalypse stories. Re-post that timeline. I enjoy apocalyptic ramblings. Why are they always wrong? So far.



Smart scientists know G-d. The Book of Nature agrees with the Book of G-d. When it seems not to, then that is our misunderstanding.
Galileo -- "If someone misreads the Heavens, then perhaps they also misread the word of G-d.":




Aristotle -- well, ok he believed in many gods. Greek gods = Fallen Angels and Nephilim. He helped start the rudiments of science.

Copernicus

Tycho Brahe & Johannes Kepler

Galileo Galilei

Sir Isaac Newton

Albert Einstein


All men of faith to some degree, even Einstein, and then also they were great scientists and laid the foundation of Modern Science. This story and many other prime examples can go on and on. There are books written on just this topic.








To know the timeline for the end of days, you then must know the Bible. Perhaps it will encourage you to pick up The Good Book and read and study. You want to know the deep secrets, correct? Then get into it. Knock and the door will be opened unto you. But you won't understand it completely until you have Yeshua HaMashaich in your heart. Invite him in.





Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 09:42am PT
5 months of Locust Torture??
Is that Worldwide?, or just in some areas?

Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 28, 2012 - 09:54am PT
You missed believing in Yeshua HaMashiach, and safety in Jordan, and Mt. Zion, and escaping all of these things to come. This is available for you, your family, and your friends if you believe and have faith.

Or perhaps you want to directly experience and go through the worst of The Beginning of Sorrows, the wrath of satan, followed by The Wrath of G-d? We are caught in the middle of a spiritual war. But Good News for Us, we know the game plan and how it's all gonna end. We know G-d is victorious. I'm gonna be with him. :-))

What's it gonna be Dr. F?
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 10:02am PT
I've made my choice, after many years of acquiring wisdom.
And I'm happy with it.


My choice rejects the bible, and it's prophecies.

The Bible and Christianity is the biggest batch of Baloney ever sold.

You just don't have a very good baloney detector

I would bet that those prophecies never happen, but we will all be dead from old age before you guys admit that they are never happening, and you will be saying they are JUST ABOUT TO COME TRUE.

What happened on Dec 21, 2012??
Nothing
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 28, 2012 - 10:14am PT
So when you see it come to pass as prophesied then what?

I would hope you would have a change of heart. G-d is very forgiving.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 10:31am PT
Why doesn't god ever stop mass killing of children, or anything else good

all he seems to do is forgive us for everything, which is the same as doing nothing in my book

anyway, I don't need forgiving.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 28, 2012 - 11:12am PT
What happened on Dec 21, 2012??
Nothing

First of all the December 21st, 2012, hysteria was also much propagated by Hollywood. Purposeful hysteria. Those of us who know the Bible knew not to give it any importance and no worries. (Well, worry about crazy people doing crazy things and taking advantage of others and their fears. Always that possibility exists, sadly.)

Besides, The Hebrew Calendar is far older and goes much further into the future. It includes The Messianic Age (The 7th Age). Then thereafter, the 8th age -- no more time. We live among G-d. He is our G-d, and we are his Children. The Mayan Calendar has nothing on the Hebrew Calendar, which by the way is based on Lunar Cycles, and the years date from the creation of Adam (modern thinking man as we know ourselves -- Homo Sapien). Cro-Magna Man, Neanderthals were before Adam. Even the Hebrew Talmud hints and talks of this. Yes there was some cross-breeding going on. Man likes to do it with anyone apparently.

December 21st, 2012. It never had anything to do with the Bible, G-d's will, nothing to do with anything Yeshua HaMashaich said, except he did tell us there would be false prophets, don't listen to them and don't believe them. There is a timeline to the ages. But there is no end. Just an end to this age and a new one begins -- The Millennium, 1000 years of peace, The Messianic Age. You have to read the good word to know it. You have to study. There are definitive signs. Everything else is just distraction. You have to know the signs to look for and you have to know the timeline.



I would bet that those prophecies never happen, but we will all be dead from old age before you guys admit that they are never happening, and you will be saying they are JUST ABOUT TO COME TRUE.

The prophecies are happening right now . . .

The Timeline has begun:

We are in the time of the Seals. There is great evil around the world. Sadly it is going to get worse.

We are in the time of Middle East strife and the very real threat of War there.

We are in the time of the real possibility of the 3rd Construction of The Temple in Jerusalem. A sect of The Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem are very much in favor of doing this and they are preparing right now. Google it. They have the priestly robs made. They are raising red heifers. They are relearning how to do the sacrifices in a Temple setting and all the ceremonies. Treasures to be placed in the Temple are being prepared or are now made. They have made a huge golden Menorah to place in the 3rd Temple already. They keep trying to set the corner stone for the Temple, but the TPTB won't allow it to stay. Eventually they will and the 3rd Temple will be reconstructed, and then animal sacrifices will begin anew (but no sacrifices can do what Yeshua HaMashiach's self-sacrifice on The Cross provided for all mankind throughout eternity, the forgiveness of sin -- and yes even you Dr. F need forgiveness. We all do. Or its eternal separation from G-d, in Hades.)
http://www.templemount.org/
http://www.templemount.org/recent.html
http://www.3rdtemplebill.org/

The timeline has begun.




Your other questions I will get to ... got things to do now. I'll get back.
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Dec 28, 2012 - 11:26am PT
Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 12:59pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 28, 2012 - 01:26pm PT
We but have to believe in Him to have eternal life...

Why would anyone want "eternal life"?
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 04:49pm PT
Adolf Hitler was an atheist and his regime godless."

Last time I checked Adolf was a Roman Catholic (who was never excommunicated by the church.. FYI). He preached on the airwaves and in speeches that they, the German people, were doing "gods work". The Germans running the concetration camps were Catholics, Lutherans, Christians. So how about you do a little fact checking next time before you write some out and out lies to make "religion(s)" look better, OK!
John Butler

Social climber
SLC, Utah
Dec 28, 2012 - 05:00pm PT
5 months of Locust Torture??
Is that Worldwide?, or just in some areas?

I get 5 months of locust torture every year in Utah... May through September
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 05:06pm PT
I'm wondering if the Research Station at the South Pole will have a Locust problem?
Klimmer says yes
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 28, 2012 - 06:19pm PT
http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/mark-of-the-beast.htm

But there are always stubborn, crafty and prepared people who would still refuse the mark and scratch out an existence "off the grid." There is apparently another, fourth, pressure that will take care of even them. At the 5th Trumpet, we are told that an army of deadly scorpion-like locusts with teeth and stingers are released from imprisonment in the Abyss (Rev 9:1-3). Although lethal-looking (Rev 9:7-9), they do not go out to kill people; they only go out to torture everyone except the 144,000 and the other gathered-protected servants of God (Rev 9:4-5; 7:3-4; 12:13-17) . It actually says people will seek death but not be able to have it (Rev 9:6). These demonic creatures will no doubt be able to search out every nook and cranny where survivalists and other resistors with stashes of food and ammunition are hiding. Their fortification, walls and weapons will not protect them from the locusts. The torture will no doubt be very effective in getting them to accept the mark.



My commentary on the Locusts:

John the Apostle who wrote Revelation while sent to the Island of Patmos to die, was using descriptions he was familiar with when Yeshua gave him these visions of the future and commanded him to write them down.

I don't think they will be real locusts, but technology that is Locust like. The NWO is absolutely Luciferian and when the time comes, they will turn on the people with their armies and technology and use it against all those who refuse the Mark of the Beast. I can see these "Locusts" as miniature RC/GPS/Satellite controlled helicopters with remote sensing capabilities and weaponry. Think UAVs or drones on steroids. Capable of torture through sound frequencies, a full host of EM frequencies or worse. If they can dream it, its already done.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicle


Right now we use this technology to do war crimes:

US drones kill up to 80% civilians – Pakistan Interior Minister
Published: 18 October, 2012, 13:55
Edited: 19 October, 2012, 14:15
http://rt.com/news/pakistan-civilian-victims-drones-695/


Snagged this from another ST thread ...
Could you imagine what this would be able to do if it's eventually made to fly? Guess who funded this research? See the end of the video.

Boston Dynamics Big Dog (new video March 2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W1czBcnX1Ww




I just find this really scary. Look at all the military surrounding these robotics. They must think its the coolest technology ever. "Oh, the Wars we can wage against humanity with such technology!"

DARPA Building Real Life Terminators Military Robots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdYSStF4fqc





Adolf Hitler was an atheist and his regime godless.

Hitler was a CHINO = "Christian in name only." Many call themselves Christian but are not. Yeshua said you would know them by the fruit they bear.

Hitler, and the leaders of the 3rd Reich, the SS, of Nazi Germany, were very much into the occult. They were absolutely Luciferian.

Read the book:

The Nazis and The Occult: The Dark Forces Unleashed by The Third Reich
by Paul Roland
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