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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jan 14, 2011 - 01:30pm PT
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It is a shame that the thread is gone. It concentrated a lot of things in one place, that otherwise would take up a lot of threads.
For example, I had to do some looking, but found that Skip had responded to my inquisition about the Obama:Psalm bumper sticker. I won't copy the whole thing, but what I consider a HUGE statement by him:
I tell you what. I will even stipulate to your point for the sake of
moving along this discussion. Whether it is in your bumper sticker or
elsewhere there are times that people on my side of the aisle are way over
the top. I don't like it. I think it gets in the way.
There it is. He allows that people "on his side" go over the line. Well, fact of the matter is, the same is true on the liberal side. For me, there is stuff that is just embarrassing, that I cannot watch or listen to on liberal TV and radio.
And this is important. Because we are all Americans, with a deep love for our country, or we would not have passionate feelings that cause us to post. The crazies, on both sides, drag us all down, and incite us to the incivilities that the threads are rampant with.
And Skip is correct, I did meet him for the first time in the mid 2000's, when he worked at California Outfitters in Fresno. We did not know each other well, and never had a political discussion that I'm aware of, but his name is what he says it is.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 14, 2011 - 01:34pm PT
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Hey Skip can you say pathetically redundant?
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
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Jan 14, 2011 - 01:40pm PT
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You're not worth wasting my time to do the research.
Then why waste time with me at all, Jeff?
And post under your real name. ALL THE TIME. Change your avatar.
So if someone googles "Jeff Elfont" your political posts, all your, will come up.
Why not? Because you are afraid of the ramifications.
Plain and simple.
But no worries.
When the time comes your posts will make it to the proper people.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jan 14, 2011 - 01:54pm PT
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And post under your real name. ALL THE TIME. Change your avatar.
Silly boy ...
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jan 14, 2011 - 01:56pm PT
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You have in your head a twisted tuna.
This is getting good...
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jan 14, 2011 - 01:59pm PT
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Hey Norton,
What I liked most about your list of political attributes that describe
your views, is that I saw in it a way for us to have some mutual
understanding.
Norton, skipt; where is said list, in the 'other' thread?
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
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Jan 14, 2011 - 01:59pm PT
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he, he, he, he....bbblllllfffftttttt!!!!!!!!! Tongue sticking out at you!
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 14, 2011 - 02:07pm PT
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Hi everyone!
Just checking in now.
Skip, I don't recall ever posting this list you refer to.
I do remember last night that Dr. F was the one who posted a list of things that he
said "liberals want".
I am not Dr. F.
I never posted any such thing.
I will go back to reading F's other thread on why he deleted it.
I see that he is accusing me of some things and telling me to fuk off.
I will put together my response and post it. I don't get, yet, why he is so pissed at me.
But again Skip, I never posted ANY "list".
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jan 14, 2011 - 02:55pm PT
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dirtbag
climber
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Jan 14, 2011 - 03:26pm PT
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Hello friends and Republifascists. :-)
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dirtbag
climber
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Jan 14, 2011 - 03:41pm PT
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"Eat"? No.
Drink? Ummmm...Maybe!
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jan 14, 2011 - 03:47pm PT
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OK, for fun, here's the King Biscuit:
Speak for ONLY yourself, Dr F, when you talk about what "liberals" want.
You do not speak for me.
Every person is unique and different.
The very definition of left, progressive, democrat, or liberal means different things to
different people.
It is very wrong and unfair to think that all Repubs think alike or should be labeled
and thrown into convenient categories.
Same with people who don't lean to the right politically.
 Norman
Now, do you think that latte is shaken, or stirred?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jan 14, 2011 - 03:58pm PT
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Skip,
I didn't realize you worked at California Outfitters. I loved that place. To my mind, they had a much better selection of climbing gear than REI has in Fresno now. I was very sorry to see them go.
Selling climbing gear in Fresno has been an iffy proposition. In the 1960's, I got a pair of Kronhoffers and my first pitons at Herb Bauer. Every other local dealer of climbing gear -- and there were at least four --(sad to say, even including Royal's Pinedale store) is either out of business, or no longer in the climbing gear business.
John
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dirtbag
climber
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Jan 14, 2011 - 04:09pm PT
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Getting people into backpacking: very cool. That's a very, very good thing.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jan 14, 2011 - 04:16pm PT
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For you, Dr. Comrade F, the linchpin:
You ought to hear yourself sometimes Dr. F.
Your rhetoric is as relentlessly labeling and intentionally loaded to produce the very replies that you claim are impossible to avoid.
A lot of the time, you goad and provoke because you seem to want to get the exact responses that you do end up getting.
It goes nowhere and like Lois, makes it all about her, and in this case, you.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Jan 14, 2011 - 04:20pm PT
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The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round....
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 14, 2011 - 04:45pm PT
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Hi Dr. F.
What is with this anger you seem to have for me?
You posted earlier that I should "fuk off", and now you say I should apologize to you.
You say I should apologize for not responding last night to your request that I put
together my own "list" of what liberals supposedly stand for.
Well guess what? I don't "have" to do what you suggest I do. I did consider doing it and then realized that I would have to give that a lot of thought and no way could I slap something together and post it last night.
I have other things going on in my life that preclude me from jumping right on a request from you, or anyone else. It is ME, and not YOU, who decides what and when I will
respond to.
So, what? THIS is what you are mad at me about? Because I did not post a list?
You gotta be kidding, right? What is this sh#t you are making up between us?
Why are you doing this? Some stupid list you expected me to jump on doing?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jan 14, 2011 - 04:58pm PT
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This is rough to watch. Communication via keyboard is a hard task. Consider how when you talk to somebody, you have a thought that goes through a translation to become a verbal communication. That it turn gets heard and goes through another conversion into the recipient's thought process.
Even when folks are in the same room, talking to each other, wires get crossed and misunderstandings happen, All The Time.
Zoom to keyboard communication, and Bamm, it is Soo difficult to convey the thoughts, ideas, emotions, and nuances that you intend to convey as communication. I work as a writer, and so often I go back to read what I've carefully crafted, and I'm amazed at how it sounds when I reread the things I write.
In other words, a lot of us need to Chill the Frick OUT! Except for you, AC. A freezer might help ;-)
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 14, 2011 - 05:17pm PT
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Dr. F.
Again you tell me to go fuk myself, supposedly again because I did not whip out a couple
things of a list fast enough to satisfy you.
Guess what? I DON"T FUKING ANSWER TO YOU.
And then in your above post, you state that I, ME, wanted to keep the fighting going with Skip.
ARE YOU NUTS?
It was ME who extended his hand TO SKIP last night and asked him to join me in a
new level of respectful discourse. He readily agreed to give it a try.
So, how can you say it was ME who wanted to keep fighting with Skip, when you know
damn well it was ME, AND ONLY ME, who reached out to Skip?
F., we may well agree on a lot of political ideology, but this time you have gone to far.
You cannot even get your reason for anger at me factually correct.
Right now, you are frothing, irrational, and you have NO FUKING REASON TO BE MAD AT ME.
Now stop this sh#t.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jan 14, 2011 - 06:05pm PT
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Good one AC!
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