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crunch
Social climber
CO
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Dec 20, 2010 - 01:51pm PT
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Great catalog Steve, thanks.
I like the odd spellings, like Stubei for Stubai (already noted above), and "fiffi" hook (for those particularly "iffy" placements?
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Dec 20, 2010 - 02:03pm PT
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Steve
Thinking this is the one that I have. Will look today or by this week.
Edelrid rope thinking I bought.
Might have price list as well.
Nice find.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2010 - 02:17pm PT
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Always best not to guess and these catalogs are gold!
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setnei
Mountain climber
Warshington
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Dec 20, 2010 - 02:57pm PT
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I totally love the fact that you could buy lederhosen AND hardware in one stop...
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scuffy b
climber
Three feet higher
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Dec 20, 2010 - 02:58pm PT
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And a chisel holder, with replaceable chisel
You didn't see a lot of Eiger D carabiners
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BMcC
Trad climber
Livermore
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Dec 20, 2010 - 03:10pm PT
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Trust those biners?
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2010 - 12:56am PT
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Not me! You could hand stretch those Eigers almost to gate contact.
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rockjockrob
Boulder climber
Tempe, Arizona
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Dec 22, 2010 - 04:16pm PT
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It may be possible to date this catalog roughly based on the true hexagon shape of the Eiger Hexes. I am not sure when, but at some point in the early seventies the hexes were elongated making them only symetric on one axis. Does it make this a 65 or a 70 catalog, I don't know.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2010 - 11:07pm PT
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This would seem to be pre-1973...more on this soon.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 8, 2011 - 11:34pm PT
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Anyone else have Eiger catalogs for show and tell?
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Jan 12, 2011 - 01:37am PT
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Stubai Marwa ice screw differences:
I noticed that there are two versions of the Marwa ice screws. It looks like the earlier screws have an extra twist of metal where the metal rod attaches to itself. The two versions can be seen in the two different Eiger catalogs posted earlier in this thread.
I am not exactly sure when these Marwa ice screws were first marketed, but I was told they go back to the 1950s.
Top two screws are first generation (available in two sizes) and bottom three screws are second generation (available in three sizes).
Rock on! Marty
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 12, 2011 - 02:34am PT
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As if they weren't going to pull out before the 'wire' deformed and came unwound?
Pretty funny :-)
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2011 - 10:27pm PT
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I just saw these go on ebay...That 4" Clog bong is a real doorstop but I haven't ever held one!
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Jan 12, 2011 - 10:44pm PT
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Steve,
You mention the Clog 4" bong is a real doorstop. Are you referring to the bongs shown in your photos as Clog? The left two bongs are from SMC. The steel 4" bong shown in the photo on the right is a Chouinard. You can see the Chouinard symbol in the second photo. Jim Bridwell told me that the solid steel Chouinard bongs are really rare. Jim gave me one years ago that Chouinard personally gave to him. Jim kept his in mint condition and never used it. I saw this auction on ebay and was quite tempted to obtain it but didn't. So somebody out there got a real gem.
Steve, did you by chance win the (piton/Holubar) auction that was just a string of old unused bolt hangers? The auction ended yesterday.
Rock on! Marty
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2011 - 12:35am PT
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Right you are! I thought it was Clog by the pinch near the eye and the rivet weight.
I won the eight Holubar pitons auction not the misc bolt hangers or any of the others in that group. Impressive bunch of hardware!
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Jan 13, 2011 - 12:50am PT
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I agree! Great auction score if you had the bucks to obtain them. Most of the gear in those Holubar auctions was from the 1940/1950 era and in mint condition. Drats.....I wonder who won those hangers?
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2011 - 12:55am PT
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Something unusual about those ring hangers?
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Jan 13, 2011 - 12:50pm PT
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The auction has ended but it is ebay #380304979440
If you click on the auction ended photo it will give you the original photos back for viewing.
In the auction is 4 different bolt hangers.
Qty 7 - strap ring style hangers circa late 1940s
Qty 1 - ring bolt hanger - where the ring is part of the bolt.
Qty 1 - ? - looks like an aluminum cut piton but could be a manufactured hanger
Qty 1 - ? - which is hard to see but there is a angle bent hanger that touches the piton hanger that is unknown. You can find it easier by looking at the rawl thread bolts. Looks like early LONGware but has an aluminum look to it.
I am curious on what the two ? bolts look like and if there is a mfg stamp on them.
Rock on! Marty
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2011 - 08:23pm PT
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I'll find out for you...
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2011 - 02:54pm PT
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Chouinard Equipment released the Hexentric in 1971. No sooner did the symetrical shape hit the market and the call for the eccentric Hexentric began. Though it pissed off the fabricators mightily, the reconfigured eccentric Hexentric hit the market in 1973.
In a rare example of Chouinard equipment making hardware that doesn't bear the name, the original proprietary symetrical stock was sold to Eiger to sell as their own sometime shortly after 73. Eiger sold equilateral hexagonal nuts bearing their stamp prior to 1973.
This shot shows three marking variations on the Eiger Hexentrics. The small Eiger stamp and number is the same as the markings on the hexagonal stock derived nuts.
In one of those quirks that drive collectors mad, the small Eiger stamp #6 is the same as the number only #5!
The second mark is a simple number only.
The third mark is a large Eiger stamp and numbers.
Hopefully someone familiar with Eiger goods can set chronology on these markings. The quality of milling and finish work is the other indicator.
A set of number only Eiger hexentrics #3-#6 sleeved and wired in the characteristic Eiger fashion. The Eiger cabling scheme is definitive.
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