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taorock

Trad climber
Okanogan, WA
Nov 22, 2010 - 06:48pm PT
My old friend o-man has inspired me to add a Gambler story.

In the late nineties I was doing alright on the ever increasing stock market. I had got to know John as an Arizonan and he was very curious about trading. It was around the time that the stock high tech bubble burst and John was putting up routes at the Homestead.

He queried me for what I knew, set it aside and then got into the bear market as a short trader. From all accounts (his own and others) he excelled at it. I think it fascinated him the same as gambling. He loved to tread in a down market.

That sort of trading is not dissimilar from your disintegrating hold story Olaf.

RIP John and condolences to family and friends.

Brent
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 22, 2010 - 07:06pm PT
Some time in the 90's a climber hitched a ride with us from the LA area to Vegas/ RR. A friend of mine at the time was day trading for a living and had gotten me into reading a couple of books on technical analysis. We had a long really insightful conversation on the subject during the long drive. This guy also spoke of making a living at gambling for a while. We were a fairly large group and he may have climbed with some of our bunch, but I think Ed and I had our own agenda and we split off from the rest of the group. I don't remember climbing anything with him.

Can't remember for sure, but in some of the photos he looks vaguely familiar, and there can't be to many climber/pro gamblers out there.


Ever since the first disappearance posts I've wondered if our passenger was John.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Nov 24, 2010 - 01:00pm PT
I was told that there was a profile on John, that I've never seen, in a back issue of Climbing. I looked it up and it looks like it is in issue #174 from March of 98. Does anyone have this in their stash? I'd love to read it.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Nov 24, 2010 - 01:04pm PT
Me too.


Anyone have it?
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Nov 24, 2010 - 01:18pm PT
Peder posted

john kept that shredded piece of Plunge rope for years.


If that is true it should be found and sent to Neptunes or some such archive of climbing history.
ericrak

climber
Boulder, CO
Nov 24, 2010 - 02:47pm PT
Philo, here's the article:

http://www.rockandice.com/articles/people/article/885-john-rosholt-climber-and-gambler-disappears-in-las-vegas

ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Nov 24, 2010 - 03:16pm PT
Thanks Eric, Philo actually gives a link to that article upthread. The one we are talking about is from Climbing in 1998. It was a profile on The Gambler when he was still around.
ddscott

Trad climber
Boulder,Colorado
Nov 24, 2010 - 03:35pm PT
I just started to scan some photos of Johhny. I'll post more of climbing in Thailand later. We were living the dream climbing here. I'll put the old Gunnison ones on my first post.

Jean Scott, Johnny, and Tom Cecil enjoy some Cambodian in front of our...
Jean Scott, Johnny, and Tom Cecil enjoy some Cambodian in front of our bungalows Rai Lai Beach Thailand 1995.
Credit: ddscott

Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Nov 24, 2010 - 07:28pm PT
As requested:
John Rosholt profile by John Heisel - "Players/Perspectives", Climbing...
John Rosholt profile by John Heisel - "Players/Perspectives", Climbing #174, March 1998
Credit: John Heisel
John Rosholt profile 1998, part 2/4
John Rosholt profile 1998, part 2/4
Credit: John Heisel
John Rosholt profile 1998, part 3/4
John Rosholt profile 1998, part 3/4
Credit: John Heisel
John Rosholt profile 1998, part 4/4
John Rosholt profile 1998, part 4/4
Credit: John Heisel
RadDad

climber
Thorp, WA
Nov 25, 2010 - 03:20am PT
Mescalito Spring '79
Mescalito Spring '79
Credit: RadDad
I have enjoyed reading all the memories...wow, thanks everyone!

When I think of a memory for John it would have to be him rescuing me from Aspen in '79. I had tried to make a go of living in Aspen that summer and it wasn't working. I was stuck and down on my luck. How it all lined up I cannot say... but, he picked me up (could it have been that infamous orange truck?) and brought me back to the great Northwest. Thank you John! With a quick stop at my folks place in Tacoma, (you know the place Peder) we were off to Squamish where we did lots of stuff I can't remember. I'm sure we did some climbing too.

My condolences to all John's family and friends.

Doug Klewin
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Nov 25, 2010 - 09:32am PT
I never met John but I feel I know him now from this thread. In a sport with so many characters, he really seems to have stood out as one of the most colorful. Whenever the phrase "living the life" pops up, it will be his that I think of as the best illustration.

I hope that his family can take consolation from the positive impact that he had on so many others.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Nov 27, 2010 - 04:21am PT
Doug, post the photos!
jsavage

climber
Bishop, CA
Nov 27, 2010 - 12:35pm PT
I met John in the fall of '91. He was playing in the World Series of Poker and I was doing Desert Tortoise biology and climbing at Red Rocks. We were both crashing at Waterman Bob's house. He would leave in evening to play and sometimes not get back til the following day. I asked him enough questions about playing poker that he wrote out a list of what beats what and said he'd give me $40 to play in one of the seven card stud side games. He made it pretty clear that all I had to do was be real patient and bet conservatively until I knew I had solid cards. I followed his advice was up a little, and over time, up a little more for several hours. His strategy was working. At some point I got a little bored, and it not being my money, I started to bet a little more liberally. I crashed out going for the big hand in a half and hour or so. I went and watched John in a Texas Hold 'em game at one of the main tables. It was pretty interesting to see him with big stacks of chips playing high stakes poker. A few days later he asked if I could return the favor by driving him to the casino so he could pick his bank. I guess he'd bought in at the start of tournament and had all his money in chips and it was time to cash back out. When we got near the casino he told me to drop him off in front and to drive around the block as slow as I could and that he'd get back in my truck as I came around again. As I pulled into the front drive of the casino, like clockwork, John pushed through the front door wearing sunglasses with bulges throughout the front of his leather jacket walked with determination to my truck. He told me to keep it rolling and got in. He had more cash in his jacket than I could comprehend at the time. That couple of weeks was a view into a world I was completely ignorant of. John was really fun to have conversations with and really generous with sharing his knowledge of poker.

We didn't get to climb together during that time. The only climbing story I have isn't really a climbing story. We got a little sandbagged bagged by our friend George Smith. George told us there was an excellent five or six pitch 5.6 we could solo. He told us there was no way we'd need a rope based off the ropeless climbing we had on our resumes. We stopped by Desert Rock to get chalk or something and ran into Peter Mayfield and another guy. This is digging deep so the details might not be exact. Anyway, four us jogged out Oak Creek I think it was, and without a topo all concluded we were looking at the route. The four us all decided we didn't want to onsight solo the exposed looking arete with only enough beta to identify the first pitch of the route. We walked back to the car somewhat dejected but reassuring ourselves that it would be better to at least climb the route with a rope before bringing it into the solo circuit. All and all it was really fun hanging out with John that fall.

I saw John again at the Needles in 2004. It was brief, and again, we did not get to climb together. I wish I had had the opportunity to share some pitches with him. I feel for all his family and friends. I admire that he lived life without the security of the 9-5 grind. This isn't the way I had hoped the story would be be resolved.
Jim
edit: I had originally said Needles 2006 but got a note from a ST member that he disappeared in 2005 and was last in the Needles in 2004. I apologize for the huge mistake.
WBraun

climber
Nov 27, 2010 - 01:14pm PT
John Rosholt the true American classic.
Betty Uno

Boulder climber
Lafayette, Colorado
Nov 30, 2010 - 11:40am PT
I am so glad there is closure for his sisters and family. That is undoubtably where he'd wish to be. What a legend. Goodbye John Rosholt.


Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Nov 30, 2010 - 11:50am PT
I saw John again at the Needles in 2004...

Interesting you mention this. I think this was the same time, the only time, I met John Rosholt. Dr. Yoho was there too?

John was a larger than life figure. Amazing.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Dec 3, 2010 - 08:39pm PT
John about to fly off the big roof in Taylor Canyon.
John about to fly off the big roof in Taylor Canyon.
Credit: Allen Hill
Betty Uno

Social climber
Colorado native
Dec 4, 2010 - 03:11pm PT

Oh look, there's that green belt again.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2010 - 07:23pm PT
Thanks Coz, that was a great tribute to an old friend. RIP
the albatross

Gym climber
Flagstaff
Dec 5, 2010 - 11:04pm PT
I never got to meet John Rosholt yet appreciate his vision and accomplishments. It sounds like he was fully alive. A modern day cowboy whose disappearance has haunted many for years.

I'm not sure if it matters in the end, but it's clear from this video clip that his few remains were found high on the wall not on Prince of Darkness, but on what may be near (or below) The Velvet Wall Original Route, a seldom done line which starts off the Black Tower above the Epinephrine Chimneys.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13494380/las-vegas-police-retreive-remains-from-red-rock

John "The Gambler" Rosholt, Thank you for the inspiration. Rest in Peace.


Albert Newman
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