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Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 18, 2010 - 06:31pm PT
Bill Amborn just sent me a spare Roper red guide. I had forgotten the superb collection of photographs that grace this edition that the later green guide, by necessity, had to omit. This original guide is so much richer historically for the images.

Bill was instrumental in the production of this original guidebook as he, through slight of hand, bankrolled Roper early on. No mention in the credits and Bill was Bitchin' again!

See the History of Nevada Flake...

Thanks again, Bill!














Second half to follow soon!
marv

Mountain climber
Bay Area
Sep 18, 2010 - 07:26pm PT
bitchin'!
BBA

climber
OF
Sep 18, 2010 - 08:05pm PT
I never looked at it that way, Steve G. But of course you're right.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Sep 18, 2010 - 08:48pm PT
I like the photos in this guidebook also. Especially those of Slab Happy, upcoming in the second or third part.
I like Al Macdonald's line drawings of the crags, too.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2010 - 08:50pm PT
As you wish...



The Red Guide also features beautiful illustrations by Al Macdonald of Leaning Tower fame!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 18, 2010 - 08:52pm PT
I have a mint copy signed by Joaquin Murrieta- what's it worth?
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2010 - 08:57pm PT
Probably more if you sign it! LOL

Get some more folks to sign next to their favorite FA's in that book and you can make some money...if that's what you are after.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 18, 2010 - 09:11pm PT
Money? Hell that just takes your eye off of the ball and makes you fat.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2010 - 09:27pm PT
Just makes the Moose Mangy...
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Sep 19, 2010 - 12:02am PT
Steve- "As You Wish."

Me thinks you have been watching the "Princess Bride" far too often. But then again, I have probably seen it 30 times, my daughter's fav growing up, and I still enjoy it.
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Sep 19, 2010 - 12:08am PT
I still have my little red guide from 1964.
Many fond memories contained therein.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2010 - 01:04am PT
I do try to pattern my attitude after Andre The Giant!
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Sep 19, 2010 - 01:22am PT
Andre the Grossman or Steve the Giant, which?
Concerned citizen

Big Wall climber
Sep 19, 2010 - 08:53am PT
A few years ago a group of the photos (perhaps four) were sold on ebay. To my recollection, they were the originals used when the book was published, because they were mounted onto card with a few notes and blue-lined in the way that publishers prepared illustrations for printing.

I attempted to buy them but was outbid.

I bought my copy in 1969 or so, just after I had started climbing while living in my home town, New York. At that time the accomplishments associated with Yosemite big wall climbing were the ultimate inspiration. I wanted to climb in Yosemite when I had the chance, and a guidebook seemed like a necessity, even though it took a few years before I got there and a few decades before I fulfilled the big wall goal. Of course, the red and green Roper guides were valuable throughout for their approach descriptions, and for their effectiveness in conveying important facts in writing, in the days before topos.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2010 - 10:30am PT
As you choose...LOL
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2010 - 09:16pm PT
The Princess Bump...
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 24, 2010 - 08:30pm PT
Photo Dump Bump!
Rockin' Gal

Trad climber
Boulder
Sep 24, 2010 - 11:14pm PT
I had to get out my copy of the Red Guide after checking in on this thread. Love the B&Ws. I was amazed to see that Roper signed it for me in 1997. Must have been in JTree. Keep em coming, Steve!
BooDawg

Social climber
Polynesian Paralysis
Sep 25, 2010 - 02:27pm PT
My red guide got so beat up from packing it around that the cover got really loose and was about to come off, so my mom who was a librarian and who knew it was my favorite book at the time, had it re-covered with a much thicker, more durable cover and my initials on the spine. I also began to treat it with more care, and the "Green Guide" made the "Red Guide" obsolete for climbing purposes.


Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2010 - 03:02pm PT
The second installment...









Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2010 - 11:10am PT
Ultra-classic Bump!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2010 - 12:43pm PT
...fer tha weekend!
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 4, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
Hamie lent me his copy last spring, and I took it to Bridwellfest to get it autographed by the Bird. Jim and Hamie spent quite a lot of time together in the Valley in 1964 - 65, and I believe that Hamie was the first Canadian after Jim Baldwin to spend much time climbing in the Valley. Hamie and Jim may not have seen each other since then, so it was nice for them to have some indirect contact.

Hamie also had a nice photo of Jim coming to the top of one of the Cathedral Spires.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2010 - 05:42pm PT
No similarity with respect to climbing photos. Too much content in the later guides to indulge!
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Dec 4, 2010 - 11:53pm PT
my four-foot shelf of climbing guides still includes my much-battered and annotated red guide kept in a plastic sleeve (with several inaccuracies noted)

also my roper high sierra guide and brown ortenburger tetons guide and tahquitz and gunks guides from the same era, and subsequent versions including the yosemite green guide...

wishing i had more copies of mooglenews, but i think royal has a pretty complete stash
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Dec 5, 2010 - 12:07am PT
Randisi, the Red Book is actually small, only slightly larger and thinner than the later Green Book. The Red Book can still be found online too. They go for more than $140 in perfect shape.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Dec 6, 2010 - 03:41am PT

i paid $400.00.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Dec 6, 2010 - 08:21am PT
i paid $400.00.

Holy SH*T!!!!
You coulda almost got the Art Gran Gunks guide for that and it'a a whole lot rarer.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Dec 11, 2010 - 12:39pm PT
i love that red book. i'll save as much as i can to get my hands on it. $400.00 from chesslers.
jstan

climber
Dec 11, 2010 - 01:06pm PT
I think I have opened my copy of Roper's guide maybe three times total. My copy of Gran's guide is rather more used. I think it the most readable guide I have ever seen. Belay that. Kelsey's supplement to Gran's guide is better.

I do have a copy of a book titled "Redwoods" with a picture of the Nose seen in profile taken through the trees. Shot in 1943. So much has changed since then.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Dec 11, 2010 - 04:13pm PT
So classic. Had a copy of the green but the red was considerably before my time.

I look at those photos and think 'those were men.' You really had to want it to do it back then. You knew it was going to be hard, it was hard and you were OK with that. Just awesome.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Dec 11, 2010 - 05:49pm PT
Here is the red and green Roper guides shown together on my desk. This red is a replacement I bought a few years ago for my extremely worndown original red which is somewhere in my heap. It had to endure being in my back pocket as a teenager climber...god how stupid. The green I bought within a month of its publishing, 1971. You can see the red is taller and wider but is about half as thick.



nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Feb 22, 2011 - 07:23pm PT
I just got my red guide in the mail today, and drove down to a little local bookstore a mile from my house that had the green book.

I've got a work deadline in the next 53 minutes, but I couldn't help myself from ogling the fine drawings. Now I finally know where that damn Ski Jump is! And Pohono Pinnacle! And I'm plotting some unrelated secret adventures for the spring and summer.

Le_bruce, you will learn to rue the day I acquired these guides. Or you will whisper sweet nothings in my ear (during an unplanned bivy of course).

Adventure season is upon us.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Feb 22, 2011 - 07:29pm PT
nice rebump


where is "Black Wall" - lower yosemite falls amphitheatre?
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2011 - 09:15pm PT
Tom Frost recently told me that David Brower was behind the photo content in the red guide. Clearly a part of his larger image driven wilderness education and appreciation mission through the Sierra Club.
JMC

climber
oilfields of Sumatra
Feb 22, 2011 - 10:50pm PT
$400? ouch.

abebooks usually pans out with good selection and prices, just picked up a medly of Jim Perrin's works.

For the 1964 guide - http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=roper&kn=1964&sts=t&tn=yosemite+valley&x=60&y=14
Prezwoodz

climber
Anchorage
Feb 22, 2011 - 11:39pm PT
Bought one...$27 seemed like a good deal. Wonder how it looks?

Yikes on this one : http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/2352210259/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1298435054&sr=8-25&condition=used
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Feb 22, 2011 - 11:48pm PT
As long as Supertopo and other guide producers continue with their skimpy "selected" theme for Valley guides---whether openly stating so or still editing out many climbs without disclosure---and as long as they remain reluctant to publish the really badly needed comprehensive obviously large guidebook to the most important rockclimbing venue in the world, the Red and the Green are actually much more interesting guides than anything that has come out since. And more, emphasized climbs in these newer books will continue to get overclimbed---in fact to death for god's sake. Amazing isn't it, considering that these wonderful little guides were published 47 and 40 years ago.... I mean jesus christ, can't we do better than this? Since then the guides have been edging ever closer toward seeming like AAA monthly magazines with their little 3-day trip suggestions.

When each of them was published, the Red and the Green were the comprehensive and definitive volumes on the subject; all Valley climbs were contained in them. There weren't "secret handshake" climbs intentionally unlisted like we have now. The weirder and lamer routes still made it into the guide. The juiciest routes did too. Amazing subjective detail of the author came through in print and the outings based on his discursive method of guidebook writing were very very engaging and really in the spirit of our art. The change is not due to the Topo form of guidebooking; it is also the problem of sheer numbers of climbs, the cost, and of course the serious lack of deep vision of the writers of recent years. Eric Sloan has assured me a couple of times that he is trying to do a comprehensive guide to all Valley climbs and we do see developments from him. But it is daunting, requires money, time and total power actually on the part of the writer to be valid, get all that nitty-gritty, and provide some subjective reflection often on the climbs. Huge challenge, certainly.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Feb 23, 2011 - 12:11am PT
Steve,

yep, definitely many of those are Tom Frosts. I recognize at least one that is not normally know as Frost photo, but it's one that is now for sale in the Yose mtn shop by Tom.



Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Feb 23, 2011 - 12:14am PT
ah, and the Black Wall is in the amphitheatre.

hrm, need to figure out what it is now with my teal colored reid guide.

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Feb 23, 2011 - 12:46am PT
btw, my green book's glue is decomposing. What's the best way to fix this?
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Feb 23, 2011 - 07:23am PT
Mungie, take your book to a bindery. There are some in Berkeley even--- go online, you'll see a ton of them. As a further encouragement, that is what Boche did with his Red---- in that thread about the Red and the Green, he began the thread about how his mom, being a librarian, grabbed his little Red as it disintegrated, and had it rebound. Both of these books now are rare enough to deserve preservation plus for you it must have a lot of meaning as well.
Prezwoodz

climber
Anchorage
Mar 1, 2011 - 02:44pm PT
Thanks JMC for the link. Just got my 1964 Red guide in the mail today and its strange. Looks like its never been opened or something although the cover jacket is quite warn.

Sweeeetttt book though. Oh and it was $27
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2012 - 08:01pm PT
Red Guide Bump...
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2012 - 01:30pm PT
Winter of Our Discontent bump...
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Feb 12, 2012 - 01:35pm PT
Bee-yumping for the brave souls who will do the new Comprehensive!
currygirl

Trad climber
Yosemite, Santa Cruz, Ketchum, Old Snowmass
Feb 20, 2015 - 04:59pm PT
Hey Guido, maybe I beat you to it, but here is my 1964 copy that is one of my family treasures!

Love the inscription!

Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Feb 20, 2015 - 08:01pm PT
Yes, Patsy, that is certainly a wonderful heirloom from you. Thanks for sharing. Roper in his magnificent short-schrifting perennial life-on-the-run schtick, at its best. Love him to bits. Stevie, don't ever change, see you next year in geometry class!!
currygirl

Trad climber
Yosemite, Santa Cruz, Ketchum, Old Snowmass
Feb 20, 2015 - 08:32pm PT
Peter,

We need to reconnect! Andy and I were in New Zealand earlier this winter and we had a nice visit with Joe and Nancy.(He posted a photo in the Fritz Wiessner- A Man For All Mountains topic section)...Ever since then, I have been putting together the pieces of a puzzle and it occurred to me that you are the perfect person to connect the dots.

Listened to your soundcloud interview today - fabulous.

Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Feb 20, 2015 - 08:36pm PT
Thanks for those remarks Patsy. Joe did send the marvelous photo/portrait of you and Andy W. on the Shanachie. It was a huge surprise and deep treat for me, seeing how far far back we do go and over such delicate terrain. And how the Shanachie is some magical sort of vessel containing so much as well, carrying many of us forward within her hold.. When you are ready, let it flow; write to me. I am completely open to this.
scuffy b

climber
heading slowly NNW
Feb 20, 2015 - 10:29pm PT
Hi Patsy,
long time no see, 35 years or so.
Hope you're doing great.
I'm in Santa Cruz now, still to my surprise.
Steve Moyles
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - May 27, 2017 - 04:42pm PT
Red Guide bump...
Ledge Rat

Trad climber
Michigan
Feb 21, 2018 - 02:52pm PT
I recently acquired a copy of this awesome guide. Does anyone know the significance of this date stamp and doodle on the front fold of the dust jacket?


Jeff
Don Lauria

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Feb 21, 2018 - 03:23pm PT
Just discovered this thread and was prompted to search my bookcase for my copy. Alas, it's nowhere to be found. Now, I never throw anything away, especially books. I know it will turn up somewhere, sometime. Therein lies the crux ... time!
Tamara Robbins

climber
not a climber, just related...
Feb 21, 2018 - 03:45pm PT

Here are some notes Dad made on the last page of the first edition of Roper's guide. Also, Don, do you know a Don Bird? I have one of these with that name inside..... maybe it's yours? :)

P.S. yup, I smashed my finger in a door a few months back...
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Feb 21, 2018 - 04:34pm PT
Can't let the importance and relevance of Roper autographing the Red Guide for John Curry. During that era John Curry ran the Curry Company that pretty much ran everything in the Valley outside of Degnans. John Curry was approachable and climbing and climbers had a certain mystique from the early years with such pioneers as Leonard, Robinson, Nelson, Salathe and certainly David Brower and Ansel Adams.

Yes, there were major conflicts between climbers and the Curry Company and climbers and the Rangers, but it was nothing like the later years when things got more confrontational and nasty. What was the major turning point?

Perhaps the mid to late 60s with a significance increase in the climber population, The Fury Freak Brother mentality (I loved them), LSD, Pakalolo and wider and more concentrated groups of rebellious don't-give-a-f*#k youths and a certain unbending police mentality with the NPS. I saw it from both sides and enjoyed the ride.

As a side note, currygirl is Patsy Batchelder and John Curry was her uncle. Patsy's boyfriend for years was Tom Carter, aka Fuzzywuzzy on ST. That was a fun era in Santa Cruz in the early 70s when Haan, myself, McLean, Carter, Bard Rick Barker, Bill Denz, and Patsy and numerous other bandits and outlaws made Santa Cruz our base.

Following is a photo of Patsy and Andy Wiessner in NZ several years back.
Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Feb 21, 2018 - 05:04pm PT
Tamara, thanks for posting your Dad's notes in the back of his copy of Roper's Red guide. This looks like a list of the first free ascents reported by Chuck Pratt in an early Ascent--1967 or 68, I think. This connection is important for climbing history buffs like me since it shows that Royal was keenly aware of what Sacherer did to climbing in 1964-65.

While Royal and Chuck Pratt had done the hardest free ascents in the early 60s, they were not exclusively interested in only free ascents. Sacherer, after a short period of which included some aid climbing, committed himself to all-free ascents. He and Eric Beck also did some of the fastest ascents of long climbs, carrying on what your Dad had started in speed ascents.

Everyone I have known from the 60's was awed by Frank's ascents. No one believed that the climbs he picked out were possible to climb all free. Eric Beck, who was friends with Frank and climbed with him, saw the list on which Frank had written down possible all-free ascents and didn't think they would all go. As Eric told me, "I think he did them all."

However, Frank didn't make his mark on his peers in the middle 60s, he made his mark on the climbers who came to the Valley in the late 60s to do all-free ascents, principally Barry Bates and Mark Klemens, who with Jim Bridwell's mentoring picked up where Sacherer left off: in this sense, Sacherer was the first 70s climber. Just knowing that all of those routes could be climbed free pulled everyone up.

Bridwell said that his biggest influences were Sacherer and Kor. Sacherer for fearless free-climbing and Kor for a 60s version of "just do it." I think more importantly, Jim is indebted to your Dad, an assertion I make from personal knowledge watching and talking to Jim as he was adjusting to being the best climber and what it meant. Sacherer and Kor were great climbers, but your Dad defined what it took to be a leader, from the front: You cannot push a string. There have always been great climbers, but only a few step into a leadership role and drive a whole generation. You Dad did it for many years, but by the late 60s Valley climbing was adrift and not much new stuff was getting done. When Klemens and Bates showed up to climb all-free, Jim pulled on the mantle left by your Dad, with his leadership lessons, and added the climbing rigor Sacherer had pioneered 5 years earlier and built the 70s Valley climbing community.

Tying this all together with Royal's notes on those early ascents is a very cool window in Royal's thinking.

Here is a table mixing the Valley classics from the 50s and 60s and the dates and climbers who free-climbed them.



MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Feb 21, 2018 - 06:09pm PT
Way to go, contributors.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Feb 22, 2018 - 08:11pm PT
It’s interesting to note that most of the routes Sacherer didn’t get took at least a decade for someone else to nab.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2018 - 08:15pm PT
Great post Tamara and one that stoked this fine thread again.

Frank had a very high kill rate to say the least.

Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Feb 22, 2018 - 08:49pm PT
Loved seeing:
Sacherer Crackerer
Moby Dick's Maw
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 23, 2018 - 02:02am PT
Ledge Rat, as to the printed marks on the back of your copy, it might be a publisher's/distributor's indication that the title is a "remaindered" one, no longer being in the system due to low numbers of sales or great reduction of stock on the item and reduced in price.
Many books of this sort are marked along the bottom or top edge with Magic Marker, as well. Look for them on bargain tables.
Ledge Rat

Trad climber
Michigan
Feb 23, 2018 - 07:17am PT
Thanks for the response. I have lots of books with remainder marks, but have never seen a date stamp like the one on the inside fold of the dj. I was kind of hoping that the “R” in front of the date was a clever Roper! :)

Jeff
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2018 - 07:40am PT
I will ask him about it for you.
Ledge Rat

Trad climber
Michigan
Feb 23, 2018 - 08:19am PT
Awesome, thank you!

Jeff
mongrel

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Feb 23, 2018 - 10:49am PT
The little red book, and especially the photos, were incredibly inspiring to me as a yearling climber in 1969. Some of them I looked at and thought, I could maybe do that and it would be just out of this world. Others, I thought, no way, ever....but it was still inspiring to see guys hanging out in this incredibly steep exposed spots, pretty much casual, getting it done.

That book went up a number of climbs in my pocket or antique (well, totally state of the art, then) Lafuma pack. Copies that are thrashed and are imbued forever with the juju of the age ought to sell for the premium, not the ones in mint condition that never saw the real world of Yosemite climbing. Robbins gave a talk near here a few years back, enjoyed it much, but I was a bit puzzled by people getting their copies signed. Maybe on a route page of a Robbins route I had done, but that's my book, purchased for my $4.75 or whatever.

Wonderful thread. Seems to me I read or saw somewhere that a couple of the photos are mis-captioned. Like maybe one or another annotated as Quarter Dome were actually Salathe Wall or something (I haven't done either route so cannot tell myself). Can anyone confirm or falsify this possibility?
Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
Feb 23, 2018 - 12:37pm PT
I just happened to be looking at my copy of the red book the other night.Like Mongrel's (Hi Adrian!!!), my copy is well battered. It surely isn't likely to make any money on re-sale, but the scribbled notes from my first climbing visit in '66 and beyond bring back so many wonderful memories, even though I never did do many of those routes so beautifully pictured in the book. A personal treasure.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2018 - 01:53pm PT
Adrian- I just went through the captions and I think that they are accurate.
mongrel

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Feb 23, 2018 - 03:34pm PT
Thanks, Steve. Must be one of those fried neurons that made me think that, something about one of the photos of Tom Frost on some aid roof.

First trip to Yosemite, summer 1969, we found a note in the book that apparently the whole of Glacier Point Apron up to the top hadn't been done in one go, but thought we could handle the slabs. The attempt ended not so well with a 70' factor 2 fall off of Coonyard pitch 4 or 5, held by one halfway driven anchor piton (which however we had tested because you carried a hammer then). But we rallied for a slightly more sober ascent of the classic Higher Spire regular the next day. Ah, those were the days.

It would be an adventure to do some routes again with no topo, only the text descriptions in that guidebook.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2018 - 05:53pm PT
Henry Kendall was quite a photographer and spotted that roof very early on and asked Tom to head out there on an FA after he had been climbing for a year or two. Tom was immediately good in slings and obliged.
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Feb 23, 2018 - 09:06pm PT
ST at it’s best, helping me stitch a number of people together in the place we love....thanks to you all.
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
Feb 24, 2018 - 09:40am PT
Royal's notes solve a debate that occurred on the Sacherer Memorial thread.

I remembered we received news in Europe that the climb had been named Sacherer Crackerer but I was overruled on this in favor of Sacherer Cracker.

This shows that the original was indeed Sacherer Crackerer

Thanks Tamara !


Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2018 - 03:19pm PT
Nice catch Jan!
Tamara Robbins

climber
not a climber, just related...
Feb 24, 2018 - 03:41pm PT
Yay, Jan I'm pleased to hear that. Thank you for sharing! If anyone is familiar with a Dennis Bird from Jackson Hole let me know.... I have his red guide...
Ledge Rat

Trad climber
Michigan
Mar 1, 2018 - 09:23am PT
Looks like my copy was once owned by Lewis Clark.


I didn’t know a thing about the man until spending an hour last night researching him. More great climbing history!

Jeff
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - May 28, 2018 - 09:44am PT
Red Guide Bump...
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