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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 18, 2010 - 06:31pm PT
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Bill Amborn just sent me a spare Roper red guide. I had forgotten the superb collection of photographs that grace this edition that the later green guide, by necessity, had to omit. This original guide is so much richer historically for the images.
Bill was instrumental in the production of this original guidebook as he, through slight of hand, bankrolled Roper early on. No mention in the credits and Bill was Bitchin' again!
See the History of Nevada Flake...
Thanks again, Bill!
Second half to follow soon!
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marv
Mountain climber
Bay Area
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Sep 18, 2010 - 07:26pm PT
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bitchin'!
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BBA
climber
OF
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Sep 18, 2010 - 08:05pm PT
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I never looked at it that way, Steve G. But of course you're right.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Sep 18, 2010 - 08:48pm PT
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I like the photos in this guidebook also. Especially those of Slab Happy, upcoming in the second or third part.
I like Al Macdonald's line drawings of the crags, too.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2010 - 08:50pm PT
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As you wish...
The Red Guide also features beautiful illustrations by Al Macdonald of Leaning Tower fame!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 18, 2010 - 08:52pm PT
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I have a mint copy signed by Joaquin Murrieta- what's it worth?
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2010 - 08:57pm PT
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Probably more if you sign it! LOL
Get some more folks to sign next to their favorite FA's in that book and you can make some money...if that's what you are after.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 18, 2010 - 09:11pm PT
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Money? Hell that just takes your eye off of the ball and makes you fat.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2010 - 09:27pm PT
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Just makes the Moose Mangy...
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Sep 19, 2010 - 12:02am PT
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Steve- "As You Wish."
Me thinks you have been watching the "Princess Bride" far too often. But then again, I have probably seen it 30 times, my daughter's fav growing up, and I still enjoy it.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Sep 19, 2010 - 12:08am PT
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I still have my little red guide from 1964.
Many fond memories contained therein.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2010 - 01:04am PT
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I do try to pattern my attitude after Andre The Giant!
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Sep 19, 2010 - 01:22am PT
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Andre the Grossman or Steve the Giant, which?
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Concerned citizen
Big Wall climber
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Sep 19, 2010 - 08:53am PT
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A few years ago a group of the photos (perhaps four) were sold on ebay. To my recollection, they were the originals used when the book was published, because they were mounted onto card with a few notes and blue-lined in the way that publishers prepared illustrations for printing.
I attempted to buy them but was outbid.
I bought my copy in 1969 or so, just after I had started climbing while living in my home town, New York. At that time the accomplishments associated with Yosemite big wall climbing were the ultimate inspiration. I wanted to climb in Yosemite when I had the chance, and a guidebook seemed like a necessity, even though it took a few years before I got there and a few decades before I fulfilled the big wall goal. Of course, the red and green Roper guides were valuable throughout for their approach descriptions, and for their effectiveness in conveying important facts in writing, in the days before topos.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2010 - 10:30am PT
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As you choose...LOL
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2010 - 09:16pm PT
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The Princess Bump...
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 24, 2010 - 08:30pm PT
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Photo Dump Bump!
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Rockin' Gal
Trad climber
Boulder
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Sep 24, 2010 - 11:14pm PT
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I had to get out my copy of the Red Guide after checking in on this thread. Love the B&Ws. I was amazed to see that Roper signed it for me in 1997. Must have been in JTree. Keep em coming, Steve!
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BooDawg
Social climber
Polynesian Paralysis
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Sep 25, 2010 - 02:27pm PT
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My red guide got so beat up from packing it around that the cover got really loose and was about to come off, so my mom who was a librarian and who knew it was my favorite book at the time, had it re-covered with a much thicker, more durable cover and my initials on the spine. I also began to treat it with more care, and the "Green Guide" made the "Red Guide" obsolete for climbing purposes.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2010 - 03:02pm PT
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The second installment...
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Let us know!