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the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 12, 2010 - 08:54am PT
Well i sure the hell am! since pre season began, i have been gearing up for week 1 and beyond..
My Raiders play the Titans today.. Hope Jason Campbell can make it happen this year..

Saints looked good this week- Farve looks 40, LT has something to prove this year..

My pick for the big game: Saints-Jets: Saints will win by 3 or more..


http://www.nfl.com/



Bring it folks..
Kurt (too short for basketball and too skinny for football, thats why i climb rocks) Smith
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 7, 2010 - 01:07am PT
as a Patriots fan since 1961 I've got to say it's going to be an exciting season, already has been... and with Randy Moss' trade it can only get more exciting...

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 7, 2010 - 01:14am PT
How sweet it was watching the UW Huskies quiet the Trojaneum Saturday!
I was pleasantly surprised that we were not accosted on the way out.
I guess the Trojan fans were resigned to their fate. I gotta say they
don't really make much noise there; the place is like a morgue compared to Husky Stadium.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 7, 2010 - 01:18am PT
No. Even I know that it's still baseball season, and then haw-kee starts.
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Oct 7, 2010 - 01:44am PT
Dude we been watching it for awhile now...
Love Barca!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh wait...
you mean that other sport.
Never mind

DD
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 7, 2010 - 01:52am PT
It's amusing that Kurt has it as "My Raiders". A triumph of modern marketing, that some believe that very highly paid, mercenary, professional athletes, other commercial products, and even businesses, are "ours" or "my". We're currently undergoing a marketing campaign, telling us to support "our" Canucks. What a crock!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 7, 2010 - 02:06am PT
I am tangentially rooting for the SF Giants in the playoffs... but I'm not that into it... I don't like negativity so I won't watch the Yankees though I hope the Rays take the ALCS, who knows...

so I'm done with baseball (which made the really bad decision to extend the season into October) they are the boys of summer not the fellows of fall or the guys of spring, after all. Admittedly, if the BoSox had made it I'd be watching... but they didn't and I'm not.

So it is onto Football, American Football, which will be over soon enough...

...there's no accounting for taste.
salad

climber
Escondido
Oct 7, 2010 - 02:21am PT
im in a pool with 70 guys where we pick against the spread with confidence. took first last week for 100 bucks, and finished 4th this week. its early, but after week 4 im in first place over all.

as far my bets outside the pool, ive been lucky so far. ive hit 9 of 12 bets, and am 2 of 2 on parlays.

go chargers, go saints, and go reds. death to the phillies!!!
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Oct 7, 2010 - 11:13am PT
Aww Kid, you're a Raiders fan. When did you suffer the head injury?
Al Davis SuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuX!
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Oct 7, 2010 - 11:45am PT
Just between us Broncos, Chargers and Raiders fans....what's up with the friggin Chiefs? (Chefs)
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Oct 7, 2010 - 11:58am PT
It's amusing that Kurt has it as "My Raiders". A triumph of modern marketing, that some believe that very highly paid, mercenary, professional athletes, other commercial products, and even businesses, are "ours" or "my". We're currently undergoing a marketing campaign, telling us to support "our" Canucks. What a crock!

Well if you think of football as vicarious warfare (which I think it is), wanting our team to pummel the other team into a pulp is perhaps better than looking for another jingoistic war.

KC, 16-0 baby!

well, maybe not.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Oct 7, 2010 - 01:28pm PT
KC 16-0 ha! I know only too well, last year Buncos start 6-0, then finish 2-8.......
the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 8, 2010 - 01:31pm PT
big monday night match up- jets v vikings..
gonna be a real good game..
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Oct 8, 2010 - 01:41pm PT
Good because the Raiders are not playing? Or some other reason? he he
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Oct 8, 2010 - 03:02pm PT
Well, it's good to know that you and I agree on something controversial, Kurt. I still have fond memories of the Raiders teams circa 1970, when they played an exhibition game each year at Memorial Stadium in Berkeley. The interaction between the typical Raiders fan and the typical Berkeley freak (I was both at that time) was something to behold!

That intersection still exists. When Marshawn Lynch was in his last season at Cal, someone asked him to name his favorite NFL team. He responded that he was from Oakland, so he liked the Raiders. The reporter then asked if he'd ever sat in the Black Hole. Lynch replied, "Look, I said I like the Raiders. I didn't say I was insane."

John
Tung Gwok

Mountain climber
South Bend, Indiana
Oct 8, 2010 - 03:40pm PT
Go Irish (They're pros too. Tuition, room, and board is over 50k).
Fritz

Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
Oct 8, 2010 - 08:15pm PT
Well! As long as we are talking college football:

How-bout them Boise State Broncos??

As a U. of Idaho grad, I used to hate Boise State football.

As a resident of a sparsely-populated state, with very little to be positive about:

I'm darn proud of "them Broncos."
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 8, 2010 - 10:07pm PT
Yeah, how 'bout dem Broncos? What the heel they doin' ranked in the top 10
playin' in de minors? OK, I'll give 'em 8th or 9th if I'm feelin' generous.
Besides, I got a headache watchin' dat game with that blue field!
Kalimon

Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
Oct 8, 2010 - 11:03pm PT
Yo Kurt,

Nice to know that you are a fellow Raiders fan . . . I'm probably about 10 years older than you and was fortunate to witness some of the classic Biletnikoff, Branch, Casper, Davis, Guy, Matuszak, Toomay, Shell, Sistrunk, Stabler, Tatum, Upshaw, Villapiano . . . et al. action. The Raiders are not fully appreciated and comprehended in the modern football era. They have been a formidable entity, spanning most of football history . . . much has been forgotten by the modern NFL fan. May the Raiders rise again!

Cheers to The Kid!
Tung Gwok

Mountain climber
South Bend, Indiana
Oct 9, 2010 - 05:38am PT
Kurt, Kalimon, et al,

I am a Chiefs fan from back in the day of the best rivalry in the history of pro football, bar none: Chiefs-Raiders.

Mike Garrett, Lenny Dawson, Otis Taylor (I wore his 89 jersey), Curly Culp, Jan Stenerud, on and on. And I lived in Wisconsin.
the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 9, 2010 - 09:17am PT
Boise looks great! so does Michigan..
Gonna be a good day and can't wait for Sunday..
the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 9, 2010 - 09:23am PT
Kalimon- my dad got a raiders helmet back in the early 80's..
still a fan and someday they will get back to their peak..
AllezAllez510

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Oct 9, 2010 - 01:36pm PT
What's up with a tape delay broadcast of the Oregon game? They're #3 fer Chrissakes!? Another reason to dislike FOX.

I'll have to walk around with earplugs in all day...
Karen

Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
Oct 11, 2010 - 05:07pm PT
No !!!
charley

Trad climber
nw pa.
Jan 23, 2011 - 10:54pm PT
Pittsburgh / Green Bay
GO STEELERS!!
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Jan 23, 2011 - 10:57pm PT
Go Packers!
east side underground

Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
Jan 23, 2011 - 11:14pm PT
GO PACK GO!!!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 23, 2011 - 11:16pm PT
Lifelong Bears fan - Cutler's an effing pussy!
I guess I'll have to root for the damn Packers as the lesser of two weevils.
Rockin' Gal

Trad climber
Boulder
Jan 24, 2011 - 02:28pm PT
May the spirit of St. Vince bring the Lombardi trophy back to where it belongs: in Wisconsin, which is where I'm going to watch the game.
Edge

Trad climber
New Durham, NH
Jan 24, 2011 - 02:33pm PT
As a life long Patriots fan, I found myself not wanting either AFC team to win.

Since that didn't appear to be an option, I found myself wishing for the Jets as a whole to get crushed and humiliated, and for Ben Rothlisberger to get blocked hard into Rex Ryan, crushing Ryan's windpipe and causing Big Ben to need emergency emasculation surgery.

So, ummmm, Go Pack!
Hard Rock

Trad climber
Montana
Jan 24, 2011 - 03:10pm PT
Go Packers.

Been for the Green and Gold since the late 50's. Green grass stains on my shirt and yellow piss on my diapers (cloth).
Carolyn C

Trad climber
the long, long trailer
Jan 24, 2011 - 03:34pm PT
Go Packers!! And what was BJ Raji doing in position to grab an interception - hilarious. Go BJ!
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jan 24, 2011 - 04:02pm PT
How bout them 'Nucks, eh? Top team in the NHL!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jan 24, 2011 - 04:04pm PT
Best day of the year to ski anywhere - Super Bowl SUnday, the slopes are empty. Tape the game to watch it later.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 24, 2011 - 04:07pm PT
haha I'm in agreement with Edge.

I'm rooting Packers, Steelers have too many SB wins, and too many recent SB wins.
M. Volland

Trad climber
Grand Canyon
Jan 24, 2011 - 07:56pm PT
Looks like the Steelers are in it again, Yawn.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Feb 5, 2011 - 12:37pm PT
Here, a thread for all you American football likers, so you don't create another one on Sunday.

Tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your lives. In the case of many football fans, of course, it can be the first day of your lives. Now if only haw-kee season ended when it should...

Let's hear it for the beautiful game!
james Colborn

Trad climber
Truckee, Ca
Feb 5, 2011 - 12:44pm PT
Just watched the greatest comeback in premier league history. Arsenal vs. New Castle utd.

Arsenal was ahead at the half 4-0. After losing a man to a red card Arsenal fell apart and New castle made an incredible comeback.

I'm bored with US throwball.

Come on Fulham!
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Sep 8, 2011 - 07:24pm PT
NFL season begins tonight!!!!

Alas, Cowboys don't play until Sunday.
nature

climber
back in Tuscon Aridzona....
Sep 8, 2011 - 07:45pm PT
Lakers in six.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Sep 8, 2011 - 07:45pm PT
ha ha,goodone Nature!

Anybody have superbowl 2012 predictions>?
P.Rob

Social climber
Sep 8, 2011 - 08:10pm PT
Football the Beautiful game – indeed! Thanks Kurt for this thread. My oldest was playing college ball when he had a serendipitous seizure and was found to have a ganglioglianoma in his left temporal lobe. Successfully got the bastard out (thank you Dr.Verrees) though it has changed his plans for this season he is still holding true to his Packers.

Super Bowl prediction: Jets vs. Eagles in a slugfest.**
**To those who do not care for the game – it just might be true we hate what we do not understand.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 8, 2011 - 10:27pm PT
Ugh!
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Sep 8, 2011 - 10:33pm PT
I recognize only two seasons:

baseball and ice climbing.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Sep 8, 2011 - 11:27pm PT

This man knows FUTBOL!!!!

bergbryce

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Sep 9, 2011 - 02:30am PT
ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBAAAAAAAAAAALLLLL!!!????

http://www.cardboardconnection.com/sports-videos/out-of-left-field-video-of-the-day-chris-farley-as-monday-night-footballs-hank-williams-jr

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Sep 12, 2011 - 10:13pm PT
looks like an ugly start to an ugly season... but I'm not complaining to loudly yet as the Patriots look like they're going to win tonight...
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Sep 12, 2011 - 11:17pm PT
Is that the game with the funny shaped ball, or is it one of the ones played with sticks?
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Sep 13, 2011 - 06:09pm PT
http://www.fark.com/vidplayer/6557245
the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 13, 2011 - 06:21pm PT
Go Raiders!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 13, 2011 - 06:57pm PT
News Flash : Tebow is giving up on football and wants to try baseball but they told him he would have to start with Tee Ball. Oh well, there is always the ministry.
S.Leeper

Sport climber
Pflugerville, Texas
Sep 27, 2011 - 12:16am PT
sloppy cowboys win...
Hard Rock

Trad climber
Montana
Sep 27, 2011 - 10:18am PT
Everytime (including the first) the Packers have won the SuperBowl I have predicted it. I'm predicting them to win again this year.





I pick them to win it every year.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Sep 27, 2011 - 10:25am PT
NOT football related, but check out these baseball reflexes!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tOJ5JXwfeDo
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 11, 2011 - 08:40pm PT
JESUS WINS AGAIN!


Pray hard, and don't forget the snap count. It's working.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 11, 2011 - 08:55pm PT
I concur, Cragman.

I never liked anything about the Broncos ever - even when they had a back-up quarterback named Weese ( my name ) who played in the Superbowl ( the first one they lost ) - but now I'm rooting for them. They're definitely playing the most exciting football in the league right now.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 11, 2011 - 11:00pm PT
They're definitely playing the most exciting football in the league right now.

Against the weakest division in football. They barely beat the Cubs today. <Yawn>
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Jan 13, 2012 - 07:54pm PT
any suprises on who will go to the sooperbore, or will it be the usual suspects?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2012 - 08:55pm PT
^^^ Dood, you smokin' crack? Pats 38 Donkeys 22 (if they're lucky)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2012 - 09:07pm PT
Yes, but they were at home and Rothlisberger musta been on pain meds the
way he was playing. Heck, the whole Steeler team looked to be on ludes.
The Pats are rested and ready, trust me. :-)
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 14, 2012 - 07:39pm PT
Game starts in a few.

Tebow is gonna get owned.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 14, 2012 - 07:48pm PT
Dean, it's nothing personal. Heck, it's just a game.

I live in NH, and have seen Brady play some incredible games.

May the better team win.
Dapper Dan

Trad climber
Menlo Park
Jan 14, 2012 - 08:17pm PT
49ers ! Winning the game of a lifetime !!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 14, 2012 - 08:18pm PT
That was just the first game of the weekend!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 14, 2012 - 08:22pm PT
NE scores in the first two minutes.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 14, 2012 - 08:23pm PT
49ers
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 14, 2012 - 10:38pm PT
42 - 7. The Good Guys are behind.

They're setting up a miracle fourth quarter comeback.
nevahpopsoff

Boulder climber
the woods
Jan 14, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
that's going to take divine intervention, "when God makes the impossible, possible". now the press can find another ass to kiss.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 15, 2012 - 12:55am PT
My prediction of Pats 38 Donkeys 22 obviously gave the Donkeys too much credit.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 22, 2012 - 03:07pm PT
Let's go Pats!
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jan 22, 2012 - 06:05pm PT
"Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy"

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

So I guess the only question is how your god will be smiting and afflicting you all. Plagues? Famine? George W. Bush? Newt Gangrene?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 22, 2012 - 06:38pm PT
wow, still in shock...
that was amazing, what a dog fight

and of course, I'm happy the Pats won in the end, but who could have known that... I'm still waiting for the OT kickoff.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 22, 2012 - 06:50pm PT
I'm glad we were spared finishing a game under those dopey post season overtime rules.

I like sudden-death better.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 22, 2012 - 10:11pm PT
Overtime, in the rain. Winner goes to the Superbowl.

If you don't like this, you're wrong.
richross

Trad climber
Jan 22, 2012 - 10:34pm PT
Way to go Giants!
WBraun

climber
Jan 22, 2012 - 10:49pm PT
Brutal game fought in the trenches.

Teams were pretty evenly matched, and defenses were awesome.

9ers played kind of conservative, no bootlegs.

The game was won by whomever made mistakes.

Manning took a lot of hits and kept his cool.

Brutal game and I got my football here all warmed up.

meet me in the parking lot for the beat down .....
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 22, 2012 - 11:01pm PT
Manning took a lot of hits and kept his cool.

I think that was the difference.
john hansen

climber
Jan 22, 2012 - 11:07pm PT
The two turnovers on punt returns might of had something to do with it.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 22, 2012 - 11:12pm PT
I think that was the difference.

NO WAY!

# 10 was the difference.

2 turnovers by the same freaking idiot. If not for him 90% 9ers would win in the regulation....goddamnit!!!!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 25, 2012 - 08:10pm PT
Does anyone besides the Raiders play on the dirt infield of a baseball diamond?

Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Aug 26, 2012 - 06:39am PT
Are you ready for some FOOTBALL?

No.

I quit watching football after the Minnesota Viking lost the Superbowl four times in 7 years.

The stress and disappointment was unbearable. I have permanent emotional scars.
lubbockclimber

Trad climber
lubbock,tx
Aug 26, 2012 - 08:13am PT
I live in Texas. This is where I come to get away from all the football.
P.Rob

Social climber
Pacomia, Ca - Y Que?
Sep 5, 2012 - 01:41am PT
http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2012/sep/01/warahawks-lose-their-opener-to-everett-66-54/?print=1

Just a happy Pop – not bragging but celebrating the life of his son! A year ago May, my son Brayton had a tumor removed from his left frontal lobe. Fast forward 16 months and he is the starting Quarterback for a little upstart college program in the Olympic Peninsula. They lost their opener but hey they had lots of fun. The score looks like a high school basket ball game …………. He always was to big to climb :0)


p.s. 3 mri's no sign of the tumor returning. With the Titanium plate in his dome I tell his mom's that he can take a hit better than ever ... not sure she believes that
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 9, 2012 - 08:25pm PT
I can't believe NBC is still running with that stupid "waiting all day for Sunday night" opening theme.

Sounds like it was written by Beavis and Butthead.

Al Michaels needs to go too. I get the impression he would be happier calling the horse races or golf, because that's the direction he always steers the conversation toward.
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Sep 9, 2012 - 08:33pm PT
al michaels is an imbecile

football is opium for dipshits. keeps the white middle-class placated, however.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Sep 9, 2012 - 10:26pm PT
I think UCS is overrated at #2. UCLA is vastly improved and will move into the top 25 I think.

Watched the Packers play moatly uninspired against the 49ers today.



donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 9, 2012 - 10:58pm PT
Well....one thing you have to say about NFL players, they leave it all on the field- their life expectancy is 55.
and
for lineman it's 52.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 10, 2012 - 12:32am PT
I'll put my 440 time up against a NFL lineman any day of the week ( even on Sunday ), and I haven't done any running since I ran from the cops when I was a kid.

Those guys didn't start out all that healthy.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Oct 7, 2012 - 01:57pm PT
Manning v Brady Oh Yeah!
Come on Broncos!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 7, 2012 - 04:18pm PT
Pro football sold its soul to the networks. The game has totally no flow
and it is decided by bureaucrats who make up rules to favor the home team.

College football is better but it is being taken over by TV too.
TV timeouts? Really?
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Oct 7, 2012 - 04:21pm PT
Manning v Brady Oh Yeah!
Come on Broncos!

Root all you want, but Brady and the Pats are going to crush Denver!!!!!
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 7, 2012 - 05:18pm PT
I am not so sure Brandon, the Peyton of two seasons ago has been showing up lately
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Nov 4, 2012 - 12:40am PT
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Nov 8, 2012 - 04:37am PT
Football? You mean gridiron

Football was last night, Celtic beating Barcelona, though I support both teams, Celtic since 1969 and Barca since 1982, when I was at the Camp Nou (Nou Camp to some) for the Itlay vs Poland semi-final in the World Cup.

But Celtic beating perhaps the best team in the world... priceless.

Okay, perhaps the Bhoys were a bit lucky against Barca, but luck counts. And Barcelona released a statement saying, Congratulations Celtic.

However, my late brother Mac was a diehard Raiders Fan (even after Al Davis took them south). I saw them in 1967 at the Oakland Coliseum (I think against the Broncos) as a paperboy, a group of us were taken there by the Oakland Tribune.

I like the Raiders, but somehow, I am still a 49ers fan.

Baseball is not my game, but... Go Giants. Mac was also a big A's fan. I like the A's, but they are my second team next to the SF Giants.

I like to see Barcelona beat everyone, except Celtic. Same with the Giants over the A's and the 49ers over the Raiders. Otherwise, go Raiders.

GO GLASGOW CELTIC, GO BHOYS.
Rockin' Gal

Trad climber
Boulder
Nov 8, 2012 - 04:28pm PT
Tim Tebow's email hacked--now that is funny!
Packers have a bye this weekend, which is too bad as the weather will require some football watching.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 8, 2012 - 06:12pm PT
What, you can't see the invisible string on the ball?

Here's the next Messi. I watched him practicing by himself in the rain
and the freezing azz wind in Ushuaia for a few minutes. He was intense.
Of course intense and football are synonyms in Argentina.

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:28pm PT
Forty years ago this week ( mas o menos ), Howard's Halftime Highlights.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:37pm PT
WOW! Anyone catch the last 1/4 and overtime of the Washington/Washington State Game today?

It was an incredible comeback by the underdog.

Washington ranked #25 in the U.S.

Washington State, with an 8-game losing streak and ranked in ESPN's "Bottom-10" list of the worst teams in college football.

SWEEEEEEEEEET WIN WSU!

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=323280265



lick your "leper-wounds" dawgs.

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:53pm PT
I'm trying not to feel too smug over the Patriots v. Jets game last night...
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Nov 24, 2012 - 12:24am PT
Highlights of the Great John Elway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQecaYSKsB0&feature=fvwp
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 24, 2012 - 12:35am PT
Fritz, very kindly would you please











































SHUT THE FOCK UP!

signed,

ye olde Husky letterman :-(
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 24, 2012 - 12:47am PT
Reilly: I am sorry for you and "the-dawgs".


I'm not even a WSU grad, but I lived 13 miles away in Moscow, Idaho from 1967-1983 and enjoyed going to games at WSU to watch "big-time" football and B-Ball.

I do appreciate how much each team wants to win these rival-games.

PS (I also remember the numerous times that Washington beat WSU in an upset in that final game and ruined WSU's chance of going to a bowl-game.)
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 25, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
Fresno State MW champs.

And Go Irish, FIGHT!

philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 2, 2012 - 11:46am PT
How 'bout them Broncos.
The AFC WEST never looked better.


Vin T bikinis
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151098011780163&set=a.111814850162.105452.13137220162&type=1&theater
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 9, 2012 - 08:31pm PT
It's snowing in Green Bay!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 12, 2012 - 01:04am PT
seems like the Patriots won on Monday night...
sort of heard it going in and out on the radio driving back from Pinnacles...

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 30, 2012 - 07:09pm PT
One thing I've never done is I've never tuned into a football game hoping to see Sixty Minutes.

I don't know who does that, but every week they have to say "no, Sixty Minutes will be on when it's always on".
Mimi

climber
Dec 30, 2012 - 08:49pm PT
Several good deciding games today.

Did your team make it to the playoffs?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 30, 2012 - 09:28pm PT
oh ya!
Edge

Trad climber
New Durham, NH
Dec 31, 2012 - 12:34am PT
I was at the Broncos-Chiefs game today. The stadium was electric with the news of the Texans loss, and I was following the Patriots game on my cell phone as they beat up on Miami and secured a first round bye. Go Pats!


Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 31, 2012 - 12:37am PT
Who cares about your sutpid "football", anyway?

Canada totally crushed the USA at the world junior hockey championships today, in Russia at that. Well, OK, Canada beat the USA 2-1, but a win's a win.
http://www.vancouversun.com/Sports/hockey/worldjuniors2013/Canada+remains+undefeated+after+over/7758080/story.html
MisterE

Social climber
Dec 31, 2012 - 12:38am PT
People think about other sports besides climbing here?

Huh, who knew?

;)
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 31, 2012 - 12:41am PT
Edge man you are on the edge.
Edge

Trad climber
New Durham, NH
Dec 31, 2012 - 12:57am PT
You got that right Philo.

The Pats were the last team to beat the Broncos, and I have a sneaking suspicion that they will meet again in the AFC Championship game. Manning looked pretty surgical today, but given his history with New England, I'm thinking he wants to see anyone but the Pats.

My restaurant will be serving up horse burgers in three weeks.

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
WTF just happened!
hopefully not a portent of tomorrows AFC game...
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
What are you talking about? That was a great game! I hope we get three more just like it this weekend.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
^^^^^^^. Ha ha, don't know. Crazeeeeeeeeee. But I'm currently on the East Coast so all happiness here.

Susan
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
it was an exciting game, but how do the Ravens out score the Broncos... at 38 to 35.. you'd think 14 to 10 or something...

john hansen

climber
Jan 12, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
I would like to know, why they took a knee with 31 seconds and 2 time outs.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 12, 2013 - 09:06pm PT
go SEAHAWKS!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2013 - 09:09pm PT
The Ravens wanted it more.


How about the face mask non-call in the Niners game? The ref threw the flag (it happened a few feet from him) and then picked it up! It would have been a travesty to call it a 5 yarder but to pick up the flag? Somebody needs to check that ref's financial situation.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 12, 2013 - 09:13pm PT
"I would like to know, why they took a knee with 31 seconds and 2 time outs."


I think they were tired. Maybe it was altitude.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Jan 12, 2013 - 09:17pm PT
49ers!
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 12, 2013 - 09:19pm PT
Niners are a little erratic right now.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 12, 2013 - 09:33pm PT
God damn best Broncos loss ever!

And K-man throws another to Crab for the td!

Off of Pack turn-over-overs!
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 12, 2013 - 10:03pm PT
seems like Kaepernick has more rushing yards then all of GB
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 12, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
naw, not him. he'd run!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 12, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
I've won more football pools by choosing teams by how cute I think the quarterback is, or how much I liked the uniforms. Drove the guys at work nutz. Would be interesting to see the win loss if the guys picked by hot the cheerleaders are.

Susan
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 12, 2013 - 11:18pm PT
Now if only Seattle can beat Atlanta, we get another home game and a chance at payback.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 12, 2013 - 11:36pm PT
Say there Hocking & Timid--

The K-man's from Turlock High, y'know.

I think it's the same as having old Aaron as a homey if you're from Redding.

I was conflicted about maybe having the Broncs in the same Super Bowl as the Niners. I'm gald I don't have to go thru the same crap as years ago when that happened.

The Niners win! We just watched a total of eighteen hundred yards of offense between two games.

Harbaugh Bowl II coming?
Edge

Trad climber
New Durham, NH
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:12am PT
I'm predicting two straight Belichek/Harbaugh games to finish off the NFL season.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 13, 2013 - 06:23am PT
we get another home game and a chance at payback.

Gud luck with that.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
I'm ready for some football.

Lets go Pats!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
Keyed up for the Bird Bath!

May the Dirty Birds get Mopped Up by the SeaChickens!
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 13, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
Can the Hawks pull off a mirical????
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 13, 2013 - 02:34pm PT
Seattle's getting a little payback in the home town noise department. Still hope Seattle can come back.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2013 - 02:36pm PT
Pete Carrol's play calling is way too conservative. He's not taking advantage of Wilson's mobility, either.

Of course, it would help if NFL refs weren't so consistently favorable to the home team.
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Jan 13, 2013 - 02:59pm PT
I was...but after that first half (Seattle-Atlanta), the only thing I'm ready for is some lunch
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jan 13, 2013 - 03:09pm PT
When does football season start?
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 13, 2013 - 03:33pm PT
4:30 EST.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 13, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
I like The Birds in the early game.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2013 - 03:42pm PT
Are the Seahawks gonna pull off another miracle? 7;23 left but the
little woman is pushing to leave on a hike. I hope my iPhone will get reception.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 13, 2013 - 03:42pm PT
Hawks and Falcons, they're all birds out there...
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 13, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
If Seattle's offense could only step up to the level of their defense . . .
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 13, 2013 - 03:56pm PT
Absolutely agree, they're stepping up way, way late in the game.
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
holy crap, what a GAME Seattle!

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
That's the most ridiculous comeback in history.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
The refs are conferring on how best to steal the game from Seattle.
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:07pm PT
let'sjust hope they can keep Atlanta back.


edit: not looking like it.
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:10pm PT
noooooooooo!!!!!!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
That was quite a game.
Edge

Trad climber
New Durham, NH
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
Cardiac units are mobilizing in both states.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
Was that Vern Fonk standing on the Seattle sideline?
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
damn, so close. what a great game!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:16pm PT
Does anybody but me remember back when this was the easiest week to make a few bucks betting on football? Just take the home teams, and give the points. It used to be so simple.
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:16pm PT
and on to the next game.

Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
Lets go, Pats!
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
Woke up too late.
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:18pm PT
Sorry Seattle fans, I think I jinxed it, calling a premature victory :(

That's what I love about football though.
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 13, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
Ya, gotta go with Brady

Edge

Trad climber
New Durham, NH
Jan 13, 2013 - 05:48pm PT
Houston seems to be struggling with the pace of the New England O.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 13, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
ok, Pats victorious, yeah!, a nervous victory to watch as the comebacks and other ups and downs of the weekend didn't make any lead seem safe...

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 13, 2013 - 09:39pm PT
Patriots v. 'Niners in Superbowl XXXXIV ( or whatever Superbowl's coming up )
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 13, 2013 - 10:03pm PT
Sorry, Chaz, I'm busting that with a Harbaugh bowl.

I have to defend my pose as a prognosticator.
"Giants in Four."--MFM on the Forum before the last World Series (XCVII?).
God knows it's a pose. She just dropped a bundle on the niners!!
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 13, 2013 - 10:16pm PT
I'm on board with a brother bowl. That would be awesome!
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 20, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
Happy Sunday :)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
Pats 27 - Niners 23 Take it to the bank, baby.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:42pm PT
NUTS!!!
Harbaugh Bowl.

If wishes were horses the Niners would have won last year in Jim's rookie season, but I'll take what I get. But I'm not doing any betting...
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
Your odds of a Harbaugh Bowl depend on the weather in Foxboro, which is supposed to not only be freezing cold, but crazy windy.

If the windy weather forces a ground game, Baltimore may have a chance to at least cover the spread.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 20, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
The first quarter lightning strike. Ouch!

And the taking out of the security guard (he was OK) by the Niners defense--no flag, not intentional...another ouch!

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
DT, how is Atlanta's defense gonna get tired with every possession three and out?

SF's secondary is way overmatched. SF's D line is overmatched.
SF's offense ain't built for the big plays they will need to come back.
the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2013 - 03:51pm PT
Lets Go NINERS>>
need to snap out of it and finish this quarter strong..
who's with me..
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
OK, WTF guys?
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:04pm PT
Time to settle in for a horse race--can the mud Falcons keep up with the energy of youth????
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
Noooooooooooooooooooooo

Susan
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
Does Akers have a deadeye or what?
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 20, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo


Susan
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 20, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss


Susan

Edit. Noooooooooooooooooooooooo


Edit. Yessssssssssssssssssssssss
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 20, 2013 - 05:26pm PT
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! WTF.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
Memo to M. Crabtree: That ain't yo mama's loaf of bread, dood.
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Jan 20, 2013 - 05:30pm PT
I think that Harbaugh is still waiting to give the green light to #7


He teased us with a 20+ yarder once...



...now it's time to pour it on

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
Nothing like a homer instant replay, huh? The frikking ball bounced off the turf!
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Jan 20, 2013 - 05:57pm PT
Sooo long, Atlanta
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
^^^^^^^^^^^^. Pleeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzeeeeee


Susan
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
Turnovers will get you every time.

Memo to Kaepernick: Don't overthink it, bro! Run the damn play!
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
Alright, next game.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:18pm PT
This broadcast brought to you by Alofa Bread and Frank Gore's mama (RIP), Reilly!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:34pm PT
Good for SF....it's been some time. Don't think they have much of a chance against either the Patriots or Jaguars.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 06:41pm PT
Any truth to the rumor that Ray Lewis is gonna join KISS when he retires?
He's got the makeup down, eh?
Edge

Trad climber
New Durham, NH
Jan 20, 2013 - 07:03pm PT
Lloyd is too talented and has been underused this season; look for him to have a big night.
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Jan 20, 2013 - 07:26pm PT
Good for SF....it's been some time. Don't think they have much of a chance against either the Patriots or Jaguars.

Quote of the thread!
WBraun

climber
Jan 20, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
It's SUNDAY again !!!!!!

And the little leather ball rooools .....
bit'er ol' guy

climber
the past
Jan 20, 2013 - 09:19pm PT
Football all day

posting all night on ST



KILLER!!!!!!!!
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 09:25pm PT
SF beat the Patriots at home already. Not too worried ;-)
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 20, 2013 - 09:28pm PT
Double Harbaugh Superbowl!

It's over, just keep the clock running.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 20, 2013 - 09:29pm PT
This weekend always reminds me of the job I had printing t-shirts.

Our shop - like most others I'm sure - always printed up a huge run of Superbowl commerative t-shirts every year, which were sold wholesale to places like bars, car clubs, biker clubs, etc. You've seen the type.

This was - and probably still is - totally illegal. But I assume the statute of limitations as far as my participation goes has expired.

As soon as the first game finished, the artist had half his puzzle solved. While the second game was being played, he made up two different designs. One representing either outcome.

About halftime of the second game, we'd gather at the shirt shop and watch the second half on TV. As soon as the outcome was determined, it was START THE PRESSES!, and we'd go all night. We'd pull squeegees like madmen until dawn. Wages were paid in cash.

Right about NOW, there are t-shirt shops all over the country firing up their outlaw runs.
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Jan 20, 2013 - 09:48pm PT
Whooda thunk--defense gets you to the Super Bowl, but then...




























































































































































...watch out for the running QB!
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Jan 20, 2013 - 09:49pm PT
^^^like
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 20, 2013 - 09:50pm PT
BROTHER BOWL!!!!!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 20, 2013 - 09:53pm PT
Ahem...

Niners in four.





















































Quarters.

No points by either losing team in the second half.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 20, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
Pats 67-0 at home when leading at half. Now 67-1.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 25, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
The line in Las Vegas right now has the 49ers a 4-point favorite.

That will likely change as the bookmakers attempt to even out the betting before game time.

Let the bon ton rou-lay!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3PEqasm1WE
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 25, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
9er's

Never lost a Super Bowl
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Jan 25, 2013 - 09:39pm PT
This will be the first!

The curse of E.A.P!
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Feb 1, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
I hope the 49's win......
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Sep 6, 2013 - 02:12pm PT
Peyton is the MANning!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Sep 6, 2013 - 02:15pm PT
Some sort of record last night, no? 7 TD passes in a game? It's been a long time since that happened.

It'll be great when Brady and the Pats humiliate the Broncos this year.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Sep 6, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
Seven TD passes with No interceptions. Only happened once before.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 6, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
What was up with the 45-minute delay in getting the game started?
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Sep 6, 2013 - 05:21pm PT
Yes I am:


COYS!

Couldn't care less about the head traumatized pigskin handlers you guys call footballers.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 6, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
I was sitting in a bar a couple weeks ago, watching a soccer game on TV.

One player got the ball, and started running downfield. Nobody between him and the goal. Finally, I thought, we're going to actually see a score here.

THEN THE REFS BLEW THE PLAY DEAD!

It seems fast breaks are illegal in soccer. Screw that! You can keep it.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Sep 6, 2013 - 06:08pm PT
"It seems fast breaks are illegal in soccer"

It seems you have no idea what you're talking about. The offside rule is just so complicated to understand.

No fast break here at all:

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 6, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
The offside rule is just so complicated to understand.

Well, it does have its nuances in Italy and South America.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Sep 6, 2013 - 08:05pm PT
yay for FUTBOL!!!!!

well, even the 'merican football--keeps a lotta people indoors
on Sundays. . .hee hee hee. . .
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 14, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
Did you know The Seahawks are playing this Sunday?


The Seahawks

Seahawks

The Seahawks

The 'Hawks

Seahawks

Seahawks

Seahawks

Seahawks The Seahawks Twelfth Man



JESUS CHRIST THAT'S ENOUGH ALREADY! JESUS!

That's ALL the local TV news up here can report, for the entire past week. I'm not talking the sports report, but the actual news. Headline, police blotter, human interest segment, weather, the whole goddamn broadcast. All Seahawks, all the time.

I guess it could be worse. I could be in Oregon. Then it would be all Ducks, all the time.
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Sep 15, 2013 - 07:27pm PT
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Sep 15, 2013 - 08:10pm PT


Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree

Sep 6, 2013 - 02:21pm PT

Couldn't care less about the head traumatized pigskin handlers you guys call footballers.

Nobody asked your opinion.

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 21, 2013 - 08:30pm PT
Hell of a game coming up tonight.

1-4 Vikings vs 0-6 Giants.

Week seven, and these two teams have only one win between them.

At least they're evenly matched.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 21, 2013 - 09:25pm PT
American football is getting like Italian or S American . The refs keep coming up with the most
incredibly bogus calls that almost invariably favor the home team. WTF.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 24, 2013 - 08:26pm PT
I love the Broncos and I love the odds.
They are one of the best things about Colorado, besides the climbing, of course.

Odds for them making the Super Bowl are now 3 to 1.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1821408-updated-super-bowl-odds-for-every-nfl-team-heading-into-week-8/page/33

However, I never bet on football--too much can go suddenly south, like if PM got injured, that would have a huge effect on the outcome of any game and probably wreck their SB chances.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 25, 2013 - 12:17am PT
Sunday Night Football:

Broncos 31
Patriots 31

Overtime.

goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Nov 25, 2013 - 12:26am PT
Quite invigorating!
Great game.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 25, 2013 - 12:27am PT
Great day to be a football fan. Some good games were televised this week.
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Nov 25, 2013 - 12:34am PT
I was texting with my Denverite daughter when the Pats were down by 24; my response? "There's a lot of time left..."

I love it when the boys from New England make me look smart. Great game!
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Nov 25, 2013 - 12:36am PT
peyton looks much more fun to play for - brady always seems to be pissed and yelling at people, which is weird when you know he's married to a supermodel that makes more money than he does and he should just just chill out and have fun...

my 2 pesos...
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Nov 25, 2013 - 12:40am PT
I think it's just differing leadership styles.

I imagine a night on the town with Brady would sure beat riding around in Payton's Buick looking for a rousing BBQ with Archie.
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Nov 25, 2013 - 12:49am PT
Uggs is still a pretty boy P*ssy
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 25, 2013 - 12:59am PT
Knife in my heart!

Argh!

Shades of the Forty Niners' ineptitude with kicks!

Still, a fine game, really.

Brady's awesome.

I'll take 9 and 2. Meh...
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 25, 2013 - 01:01am PT
Your 'Niners didn't lose this week. ( yet )
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Nov 25, 2013 - 01:05am PT
Sorry, I quit watching football when the Vikings lost 3 Superbowl games in four years.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 25, 2013 - 01:08am PT
Don't tell lme they play tomorrow night...

Telling the truth, I've only watched one other game this year and that was Broncos and Chiefs last Sunday.

I have been too busy on Sundays and my TV is locked in the closet, so I streamed these two Sunday Night Games.



Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Nov 25, 2013 - 11:50am PT
an interesting game to watch where all the foibles of the two teams were on display... I'm glad that the Patriots "had the ball bounce their way"

the impressive fact was that they didn't succumb to the loss which everyone (including me) thought inevitable at the half... that shows incredible discipline for all elements of the game, offense, defense and special teams, during a game where the smallest of lapses at any of those aspects would be magnified. the patriots' last punt was an example of playing every minute of the game, at that point it was incredible that they might tie it... certainly winning was a distant thought.

the 7 turnovers was also amazing, and once again the patriots somehow came out of the game with +1, after giving up 3 in the first quarter. the elements played a major role.

my daughter texted me, also, but I wasn't watching my phone... which was good because I wouldn't have been as positive as Edge... bad patriot football for the first half against the best AFC team of 2013... and they should have lost. that they didn't made for a great second half (whatever the outcome).

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 25, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
It was a good game that was brought down by winning via a bonehead play.
I don't foresee Ridley and his manos de piedra playing much more for Belichick.
The other negative was having to put up with two bonehead announcers.
Michaels would be bearable without Mr Smarmyworth.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 1, 2013 - 09:27pm PT
I'm pretty sure my Grannie runs faster than Eli Manning, and she's pushing up daisies.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 8, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
SNOW GAME IN PHILLY!!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 8, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
Eli's not paid to run.

He is paid to throw a Giant Bomb now and then, and it's beautiful.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 8, 2013 - 08:31pm PT
Apparently some one forgot to give Manning the "Peyton can't play in cold weather" memo.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 8, 2013 - 08:53pm PT
The NFL needs to look into the finances of the ref who called the pass interference call that
gave the win to the Pats today. It was way beyond just plain bogus.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 8, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
it wasn't the only bad call in the game...
nor the only bad call by that referee team...

...but it is what it is... what about the last play during Pats at Carolina?
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 12, 2013 - 08:07pm PT
Well I'm thinking my Broncos will need at least 45 points to win tonight. Chargers do not suck on Offense.

Wouldn't be surprised to see 100pts of total offense tonight.

Any takers?

Our pass defense is crap. So is the Chargers.

It's been a good year but I fear a sad Playoffs with a defense that gives away 26 points a game.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 12, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
I am not sure what to expect, they did not announce which Philip Rivers was going to suit up tonite. Hopefully not the Rivers that stalls in the red-zone. Can not beat the Donks kicking field goals all night.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 12, 2013 - 08:12pm PT
Red zone offense? Who cares? Redzone starts at about the 50 Yd line Vs Denver.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 12, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
The Chargers in Denver? They've the proverbial two chances - Brrrr! and PhukIt'sKold!

They'll be lucky to score 20 points. 38-20 Broncos
I hope I'm wrong cause I hate Denver, but I'm rarely wrong, about anything. ;-)
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 12, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
Find me a team that didn't score 20 points vs Denver this year.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 12, 2013 - 08:19pm PT
I hear ya but the Chargers never do well at Mile High, especially when it is Koooold!
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 12, 2013 - 08:29pm PT
It's not all that cold here.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 12, 2013 - 08:30pm PT
It is if you're from San Diego.




"Wouldn't be surprised to see 100pts of total offense tonight."

77 of those will be for Denver.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 12, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
10-10

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 12, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
Apparently the Chargers didn't get the memo about passing being Denvers weak point.

Yeah.. lets run on 3rd and 19..Might as well take a knee next time.

StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 12, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
17-10 SD
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 12, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
Well that was an unpredictable game. Except for the part where Denvers defense sucks ass and allows an avg 26 ppg.

I WAS wrong about running the ball against Denver.. apparently the defense sucks against the BOTH the run and the pass.

27-20 Chargers.


Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Dec 13, 2013 - 12:41am PT
Kind of reminds me of all the debates about the "best" quarterback. You can look at stats all day and all night, but when the game is for all the chips, who do you want running the show? Some guy with gaudy statistics? Or whoever is your era's equivalent of Joe Montana?

Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Dec 13, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
first post on this thread. i'm about 45 miles from Auburn; but live on the GA side of the Chattahoochee River.

i have 4 GA graduates in my family who insist i should be a loyal GA fan; but my father was cardiologist consultant for the Tigers in the 60's, 70's and early 80's, so we all grew up Tiger fans. i spent a lot of time in (and under) wooden bleachers that used to be at the west end zone. As we got a little older we got to sit in prime seats on the 50 yd line; my oldest brother got to stand on the sideline with my dad.

i am slow to accept change and stick to my roots. i am not really a big "ra-ra", but i enjoy college football.

i went to FSU for graduate school for exercise physiology, so i favor them as long as far as the ACC goes; but i will have to pull for the Tigers in the championship game.

i imagine that game will live up to it's hype as both are deep in talent, both players and coaches.

Unless the hype goes to far and Auburn has a bad outing and seeing that no team can figure out Malzahn's offense, i believe the Tigers will come out on top after each team puts a lot of points on the board. if it comes down to the need of a last minute miracle for the Tigers to win, i can't imagine them having as much fortune as they have had the last two games; but what do i know?

and for the record, i don't pay any attention to the other professional football league as they are overly paid and with egos matching income. i just can't get into it.

that's my 2¢ worth.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 13, 2013 - 02:42pm PT
they are overly paid

yes, the owners in the luxury boxes should be getting all that money, would be so much more fair.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Dec 15, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
So how much did the Packer's pay Romo to throw the game? Or is he really just hopeless?
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Dec 15, 2013 - 08:27pm PT
Pats loss give Broncos top seed in AFC!
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Dec 15, 2013 - 08:28pm PT
Reminds me of the "Longest Yard" in reverse. Fricking pitiful.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 15, 2013 - 08:33pm PT
Pats loss give Broncos top seed in AFC!

Not gunna matter.. cant win a Superbowl with our crappy defense
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 15, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
Not a big NFL fan but i do get goosebumps when the Cowboys lose.....especially this way.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 15, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
23-0

nothing like bookending a visit to NY with four games at Clink.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 15, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
How 'bout that Eli, huh? Not only can my dearly departed granny outrun him but it appears she can out-throw him, to boot!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 15, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
It's less about Eli sucking and more about playing against the best defense in the world :)
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Dec 15, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
Romo....grasping defeat from the jaws of victory!

He does it with consistency. Gotta give him credit for that. He makes millions and gets away with being the endless goat. Charlie Brown has nothing on Romo.......
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 20, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
Hard not to appreciate this story....


http://sports.yahoo.com/video/derrick-coleman-sound-silence-nfl-003142383.html
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 22, 2013 - 03:12pm PT
Is this a classic trap game for the Broncos?

Schaub has been adequate in the past and back with a chip on his shoulder, and the Texans have something to prove as a team; Denver is piling up key injuries and a few teams have exposed methods for containing them.

Chiefs are down big to the Colts.

Hopefully the networks will show the NE/Baltimore game.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 22, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
Nature, that's deafenitely a fine report on one giant aspect of the success of the Seahawks this season.

Edge, as the third quarter closes in the Texans' attempt to derail the Broncos juggernaut, it's a three point lead for Denver. I'm not watching but I'm still on the edge of my seat.
I thought of you as soon as I was given this magazine.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 22, 2013 - 03:56pm PT
Edge writes:

"Hopefully the networks will show the NE/Baltimore game."


Ha ha ha! Here, L.A. TV decided we need to see the Raider-Charger game instead. I hope you guys in CO have better luck than we do out here.

Raiders-Chargers. That's like the opposite of The Game Of The Week.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 22, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
Didja know the Raiders suck?

And the score in the Texans/Broncos game jumps to 30-13 seemingly like magic!

BOOM!

^^^Da Boom! Virtually the best thing to come out of Oakland Raiders' Futbol. Maybe they shoed try soccer. It wouldn't hurt so much when they LOSE and LOSE and LOSE.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Dec 22, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
Is Arizona about to pull off an upset?

2 point conversion, booya, Nature!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 22, 2013 - 07:14pm PT
I'm almost done with football due to homer refs. I don't have any love for
the Raiders but that was totally a TD - he had control of the ball, he took
two steps, crossed the plane, and the ball came out after he hit the ground.
Then those network retarded apologists said it was a good call.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Mimi

climber
Dec 22, 2013 - 07:18pm PT
Sketch, you're a Carolina fan? Saints blew that one big time.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 22, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
Reilly - did you see the last INT in the 'Hawks game? Looks like the Refs from the Steelers superbowl were also at this game.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 22, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
I am a Chargers fan, but I agree the Raiders got ripped off
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 22, 2013 - 10:04pm PT
Peyton the Greaton.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 22, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
I'd be worried he's peaking too early.

Remember Icky Woods?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 22, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Rachel-Washburn-An-American-Hero/7cdb5171-2955-4c44-8bdf-dc4f145641d8
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 30, 2013 - 12:48am PT
Remember Billy "White Shoes" Johnson?
Ho ho ho and laughing all the way...
97.2 rating.

What's not to like? His chances at the ring?
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 30, 2013 - 12:52am PT
Beyond all the records he left in his wake this season if Peyton Manning wins a Super Bowl with the Broncos he would be the only QB to win Super Bowls with more than one team.

Does anyone still regret getting rid of Tebow?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 30, 2013 - 12:53am PT
Who?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:50pm PT
NFC West Champs.

BOOM!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
Pats are going all the way, they are kicking ass with stars on the DL. Brady is peaking, or has peaked, but is still one of the best QB's ever. Belichick? Don't get me started. The guy has a huge analytical brain, and is cool as a cucumber under pressure.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 31, 2013 - 02:24pm PT
Percy Harvin to practice Thursday. He says to the 12th man - I'll see you in two weeks.


Git Some!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 31, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
Playoffs are unpredictable, my only pick.....Broncos and Seahawks will not meet in the Superbowl.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 31, 2013 - 04:25pm PT
so then Jim... who will the Seahawks be playing?


oh yeah... only prediction. :p
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 31, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
or.....who will the Broncos be playing? They're clearly the two best teams but with parity among the top teams the playoffs are a minefield, New England, San Franciso......
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Dec 31, 2013 - 04:36pm PT
Hawks will win superbowl,
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 31, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
who will the Broncos be playing?

Interesting, but in the second round the Broncos first playoff game will be against either KC, San Diego, or Indy. Two of the three have already beaten them this year.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Dec 31, 2013 - 06:52pm PT
My prediction is Broncos vs. Indy in the Divisional game. KC is fading fast, and San Diego was lucky to get this far...
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 31, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
What Brokedown said +1
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 31, 2013 - 07:04pm PT
I'm good with that prediction.

GB > SF
NO > Phili

SEA > NO
CAR > GB

SEA > CAR
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 31, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
Don't underestimate the 9'ers.
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Dec 31, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
On any given Sunday any team can win.
I want the Broncos to win the SB.
I don't think the Colts will win at Denver.
The weather was a big factor to their loss to the Pats, could be a factor in Jersey SB?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 31, 2013 - 07:43pm PT
I'm not underestimating them. I'm disrespecting them.
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 31, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
My bold and biased predictions for the AFC:

Cincy will beat San Diego, then lose to the Patriots in Foxboro.

KC will edge Indy, then lose (again) to the Broncos.

New England will beat Denver in the Championship game.

Ha!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 31, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
So in other words, Edge... Donini is wrong.

Hawks/Broncos SB.

The best passing offense against the best passing defense.
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 31, 2013 - 08:36pm PT
So in other words, Edge... Donini is wrong.

What? It could happen...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 31, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
Y'all are fiddling while Rome burns

SEAHAWKS!!!!!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 31, 2013 - 09:16pm PT
Y'all are fiddling while Rome burns

SEAHAWKS!!!!!

I should start a Reilly appreciation thread!
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Dec 31, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
Seaducks won't win. the Super Bowl is an away game
Osprey

climber
Jan 1, 2014 - 02:29am PT
Actually, the NFC has home team designation for Superbowl XLVII.

Go Hawks!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 1, 2014 - 02:48am PT
He mentioned Duck Dynasty and I ducked the rest of TB's inertview.

TB Who?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 1, 2014 - 02:54am PT
Broncos. My New Favorite Team.

Go Donks!
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 4, 2014 - 06:07pm PT
KC will edge Indy

I foresaw a win, but holy schnikeys, not this beotch slap down.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 4, 2014 - 06:55pm PT
oh it's a game....
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 4, 2014 - 07:52pm PT
What a comeback.
I thought it was possible but highly improbable.
I almost passed on it and was about to go to the store.
Glad I didn't.

It's not over though....
All the Chiefs need is a field goal at this point.

Hey how about Luck's TD
One of the best heads-up plays I've seen all year.

Win or lose the Colts really made this a game in the second half. That takes heart.

Wow it looks like The Colts are going to win this game.
Unbelievable

What a total bummer for KC. I feel for them. Really.

Un-frigging-believable
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 4, 2014 - 08:02pm PT
unreal.....


Go Saints! (so you can travel to Clink and get your asses handed to you)
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 4, 2014 - 09:09pm PT
Isn't this suppose to be the high scoring game?
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Jan 4, 2014 - 09:34pm PT
Actually, the NFC has home team designation for Superbowl XLVII.

Don't think it will be the same though :)

Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Jan 4, 2014 - 09:58pm PT
What is the big deal with home field designation in the Superbowl besides getting to wear home uniforms?

The Seacock fans will be rooting for Aaron Rodgers and the Packers tomorrow. Careful what you wish for.

Looking like another Manning vs Luck matchup in Denver next week.

Go Broncos!!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 4, 2014 - 10:18pm PT
Ahhh... a sixty-whiner fan.

Naw... I don't care who wins the GB game tomorrow. Donkey-dick fans will be lucky to be rooting for their team in the SB.

Looks like NO is making the trip to Clink so even if SF makes it out of GB they will be hard pressed to beat Carolina.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 4, 2014 - 10:51pm PT
Edge.....was WRONG!?Tess is rabid about Denver, excuse her manners.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 4, 2014 - 11:25pm PT
Wow! Two outstanding games.

Let's hope tomorrow's games are as good.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 4, 2014 - 11:30pm PT
Wow! Two outstanding games.

Very true. Two excellent games. Pro football at its best.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 4, 2014 - 11:47pm PT
Geez, I quit watching the KC game when it was 38-10. What an epic collapse, but kudos
to the aptly named Luck and crew, eh?
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 5, 2014 - 12:42am PT
Yeah two excellent games..

Man I did not want to see the Colts win. Their pass game matches up way to well against Denvers poor defense.

Hope I'm wrong.
Dave Davis

Social climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 5, 2014 - 03:29am PT
The Super Bowl may be an away game, but you may have noticed that the stadium it's being played in saw a Seahawks, shut out victory earlier in the season. They are actually capable of playing on the road.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 5, 2014 - 02:41pm PT
I predict the Chargers will find a way to beat the Bengals in the second half--only if Rivers and company quit playing so conservative and start really moving the ball with some big plays.

Bengals sure do play good at home


Hey are you ready for some Foosball?


Looking forward to the Packer/49er game.
Deadly global warming conditions.
Sub-zero Pain and suffering...can't wait
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Jan 5, 2014 - 02:53pm PT
"The Super Bowl may be an away game, but you may have noticed that the stadium it's being played in saw a Seahawks, shut out victory earlier in the season".

Because the Giants were a real test this year.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 5, 2014 - 03:00pm PT
The road to the Super Bowl passes through Denver. Never bet against Peyton the Great 'Un.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 5, 2014 - 03:03pm PT
The 40-Whiners are going to freeze in Green Bay!!

"Could be the coldest NFL game in history."
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 5, 2014 - 03:03pm PT
BOLTS! Rivers certainly has good touch. And where did SD rent some D from?

Broke, I hate to break it to you but the Packers actually have a losing
record on the Frozen Tundra in playoff games played when it is below 10F.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 5, 2014 - 03:12pm PT
Likely to plunge below zero at Lambeau today.

That's cold for the crowd dudes. Reeeeeeeeaaaaaallllllllll co.......
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 5, 2014 - 03:14pm PT
It gets pretty cold in San Francisco, too ... in the summertime.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 5, 2014 - 03:15pm PT
The only team that can beat the Broncos at this point of the season is the Broncos.
Avoidable mistakes, primarily on defense, have been their Achilles heal in 2013.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 5, 2014 - 03:31pm PT
The Chargers need some red zone moves if they want to put this game away. Kudos to the Bengals goal line defense.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 5, 2014 - 03:34pm PT
Crappy play calling and Ronnie Brown runs like a girl.
On that last series Rivers did his usual bonehead clock management.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 5, 2014 - 03:54pm PT
Boy, Bengals have a real genius for offensive coordinator - 4th and 3 and
they go for the home run? Really? I guess they haven't heard of the West
Coast offense in Cincinnati.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 5, 2014 - 03:57pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 5, 2014 - 04:12pm PT
Go Packers!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 5, 2014 - 04:17pm PT
Yay Chargers.. Better than the Colts for my Denver next week.

Ron? Any TV will show it.. no need for cable.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 5, 2014 - 04:27pm PT
It's on FOX, if that helps.

Look online for the local FOX station, they may have live feed.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 5, 2014 - 04:29pm PT
Channel 11 (no live stream local) and they have these things called Bars too...
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 5, 2014 - 04:31pm PT
Could be a real classic Ron. What is the point of living in Nevada if you can't go to the local sports book and watch all the folks with tickets cry.

Well sh#t drive on into Reno stop by my place and I'll hand ya a couple cheap beers and we can watch the game.

Or you could get an overseas ip service and get it free streaming but it's a pain in the but and the connections usually suck ass.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 5, 2014 - 04:37pm PT
Seahawks VS Colts SB

jus' sayin'....
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 5, 2014 - 04:39pm PT
Yeah those are scams and virus sites if you have a US intenet provider. Download those and say bye bye to your computer.. lol.. you would be lucky to be able to recover without wiping your whole hard drive.

I'm guessing Seahawks win the SB.. be lucky if my Denver even makes the SB with such a terrible Def and a QB that is brilliant but shaky under pressure.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 5, 2014 - 04:42pm PT
Game snacks...my God Am I turning into a metrosexual?

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jan 5, 2014 - 04:46pm PT
I gave up trying to get a pirated stream for games, all viruses and malware. Listening on the radio is good for your brain. The only option is watching that simul game they have, shows the progress of the ball in a graphic, get to it through NFL.com or Foxsports.com
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Jan 5, 2014 - 04:52pm PT
Naw... I don't care who wins the GB game tomorrow.

Go Packers

Someone is afraid the Seahawks will lose to the niners after all.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 5, 2014 - 05:04pm PT
If it wasn't for how badly the Denver defense sux, I'd be a lot more confident that we're going all the way. As it is, and with Peyton's playoff record, well, who knows? Hope springs eternal.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 5, 2014 - 05:10pm PT
my God Am I turning into a metrosexual?

Uh, maybe a fruit?
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 5, 2014 - 05:14pm PT
I''ll be pleasantly surprised if the Packers win this game. They are way short of their required personnel. They just don't look sharp---especially their offensive line.
9ers are a tough team and well-balanced
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 5, 2014 - 05:18pm PT
Did I mention I think Kaepernick isn't too bright? He is like so many guys
who are too quick to take off - yer brains aren't in yer feet, dude. Steve
Young was the one exception.

Damn, they're already booing in GB?
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 5, 2014 - 05:30pm PT
I'm with Ward. SF is looking tough, solid, and in control. Rooting for them now, but hoping to not face them in the SB. Their defense is worrisome against the Denver offense. They are making Rogers extremely frustrated already!
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 5, 2014 - 05:38pm PT
Packers showing some heart now. With a lotta luck they still can win this.
Their offensive line needs to keep stepping up, give Rodgers more room and time.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 5, 2014 - 05:43pm PT
Oh, how the worm has turned. Interception, and suddenly GB's offense can move the ball. Wowza!
Osprey

climber
Jan 5, 2014 - 05:49pm PT
Given the Niner's performances at the Clink over the past two years, there is no reason for any Seahawks fan to fear that club this postseason.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 5, 2014 - 05:52pm PT
Release the K...raken. Finally in the playoffs been waiting all year for my UNR Alum to get his game on.

Oh really.. SF beat the Seachickens this year.
Osprey

climber
Jan 5, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
You must only follow games at Candlestick.

StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 5, 2014 - 06:05pm PT
Buh bye Bengals. SD already beat the Broncos in Denver this year, should be a good one.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 5, 2014 - 06:11pm PT
These playoff games have been very close so far. Very interesting at GB.

Maybe I'm nuts, but I don't fear the Chargers at Denver. Last time was a fluke. Although, the Chargers' defense looks tougher now. Pressure Manning, and all bets are off. On the other hand (lots of other hands), Manning gets the ball off faster than anybody, and that stat has only improved all year. I think Denver is okay.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 5, 2014 - 06:14pm PT
The Fortywhiners are looking better than I thought they would in GB. Too close to call this one at the half!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 5, 2014 - 06:17pm PT
"Fortywhiners." LOL

Haven't heard that one before.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 5, 2014 - 07:05pm PT
Win or lose that scramble play by Rodgers is the play of the game.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 5, 2014 - 07:06pm PT
I've always been a Packer fan so I'm rooting for them.

The reason I don't really care who wins is because the winner heads to Carolina.

Worried about sixty-whines playing Seattle at Clink? Given the 42-13 crushing last year and the 29-3 throttling last visit... yeah... I'm worried about a team that almost lost to AZ and even better Atlanta the week prior.

Though to be fair if they manage to get through GB, CAR, and then SEA (cuz who really thinks NO is getting out of there) to make the SB that says a lot.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 5, 2014 - 07:48pm PT
Great game.

All four games were
Probably the best wild card round I've ever seen.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 5, 2014 - 07:56pm PT
Indy/Pats game next week is the one to watch.

Car/SF next.

It's hard to see SD doing much in frigid Denver and we've already seen what the hawks can do at home with a NO visit. Healthy with Harvin back. Should be a nice tune up for Carolina.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 5, 2014 - 09:50pm PT
So, Nature, what ultimate match-up are you projecting?
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 5, 2014 - 10:50pm PT
Chargers are sleepers IMHO. I'd be weary if I were a Denver fan. Great coaching, young hungry players.

I think the Panthers are the team to beat. Nails D and a dangerous big play offense.

My team is out as usual, but I'd love to see Niners get by Carolina. If they can, I think they win against Seattle. Just like they did in there last meeting. Just like the Cardinals did (in Seattle) as well.

Seattle are favorites but I bet they blow it. Not a Pete Carroll fan at all so I certainly hope they do. Don't forget, Seahawks have to win as well next week as well. Iv'e got a feeling Brees and Co. won't lay down and die like they did in there last meeting.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 6, 2014 - 01:37am PT
If you saw the replay of Rodgers escaping the niner sandwich you'll notice one of Rodger's lineman with his fingers thru the mask of the niner who was inches away from sacking Rodger's who then threw that bomb to Cobb...The lineman performing the face mask had the niner's head twisted backward and up allowing Rodgers to slip away...Bad no call that kept the packers in the game...
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 6, 2014 - 01:56am PT
Kaepernick is from Wisconsin and Rodgers from Chico,CA, go figure that out,

Kaepernick was put up for adoption by his single mom, how many times have adopted kids turned out to be winners, sports, music, technology,
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 6, 2014 - 01:58am PT
Bad no call that kept the packers in the game...

Yep, that's football. The Niners get away with their share too.

adopted kids turned out to be winners, sports, music, technology,

And like un-adopted a few turn out to be serial killers.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 6, 2014 - 02:05am PT
none here, menso,

Alexander the Great - King of Macedonia, 356-323 B.C.
Andy Berlin - entrepreneur: chairman of Belin Cameron & Partners
Anthony Williams - politician
Aristotle - philosopher
Art Linkletter - comedian
Bo Diddley - musician, performer
Brent Jasmer - actor
Buffy Sainte-Marie - musician, actress
Carl Theodor Dreyer - Danish film director
Charles Dickens - writer
Charlotte Anne Lopez - Miss Teen USA
Christina Crawford - author
Clarissa Pinkola Estes - author
Crazy Horse - Lakota war chief
Dan O'Brien - decathlete
Daunte Culpepper - football player
Dave Thomas - entrepreneur: founder of Wendy's
Debbi Harry - singer
Edgar Allen Poe - poet, writer
Edward Albee - playwright
Eleanor Roosevelt - First Lady
Eric Dickerson - athlete
Faith Daniels - news anchor
Faith Hill - country singer
Freddie Bartholomew - actor
Gary Coleman - actor
George Washington Carver - inventor
Greg Louganis - diver
Halle Berry - actress
Ingrid Bergman - actress
James McArthur - actor
James Michener - author
Jean Jacques Rousseau - philosopher
Jesse Jackson - minister
Jesus - adopted by Joseph the carpenter (Bible)
Jett Williams - country singer and author
Jim Palmer - athlete
John J. Audubon - naturalist
John Lennon - musician
Langston Hughes - poet and writer
Larry Ellison - entrepreneur: chief executive of Oracle
Leo Tolstoy - writer
Les Brown - motivational speaker
Louisa May Alcott - writer
Lynnette Cole - Miss USA 2000
Malcolm X - civil rights leader
Marilyn Monroe - actress
Mark Acre - athlete
Mark Twain - writer
Matthew Laborteaux - actor
Melissa Gilbert - actress
Michael Reagan - dancer
Moses - adopted by the princess of Egypt (Bible)
Moses - Biblical leader
Nancy Reagan - First Lady
Nat King Cole - singer
Nelson Mandela - politician
Patrick Laborteaux - actor
Peter and Kitty Carruthers - figure skaters
President Gerald Ford - politician
President Gerald R. Ford - adopted by step-father
President William Clinton - politician
Priscilla Presley - actress
Ray Liotta - actor
Reno - performance artist, comedian
Rep. Jim Lightfoot - politician
Richard Burton - actor
Sara Gilbert - actress
Sarah McLachlan - singer
Scott Hamilton - figure skater
Sen. Paull H. Shin - politician
Sen. Robert Byrd - politician
Shari Belafonte-Harper - actress
Steve Jobs - entrepreneur: co-founder of Apple computer
Surya Bonaly - figure skater
Tim Green - football player/commentator
Tom Monaghan - entrepreneur
Tommy Davidson - comedian
Victoria Rowell - actress
Wilson Riles - educator
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 6, 2014 - 02:08am PT
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/article/what-can-an-adopted-serial-killer-tell-us-about-the-link-between-adoption-and-serial-killers/index.html

Alex the Great?
Learn something new everyday .
Wonder what adoption agencies were around then?

Richard Burton too? Didn't know that. Wow.

Anywho how did I get into this anyway? Sheez
I have nothing against adopted people. In fact, I feel for them. They've had it tough.Many of them have overcome a bad situation and went on to do great things. All power to them. Their difficulties in that regard were none of their own doing. That's tough for a kid. Real important that they be loved and nurtured by their adopted family. And props to those people who take on the special task of adopting kids. My deepest respects.

BTW I don't consider Bill Clinton as having been adopted. Didn't his mother just remarry?
If Clinton was adopted then so was Ted Bundy.

Wow , Wilson Riles?

(Dang, my one non-football post of the day should have been in the "sex do and don't" thread.)
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 6, 2014 - 01:40pm PT
madbolter:
So, Nature, what ultimate match-up are you projecting?

I don't see NO going into Sea this week and winning.

I know SD beat the Broncos but given the weather and the playoffs I don't see that happening again. Though Manning does know how to choke in the playoffs.

Carolina has been playing really well and has an excellent defense. They beat SF at home and given the marginal victories of SF I don't see them getting out of there.

The Indy/Pats game is intriguing. Hard to see the Pats losing but after that comeback I'm going with Indy.


So:
Car VS Sea
Indy VS Denver

Seattle is a tough place to play and with an inconsistent Carolina defense I give the nod to Seattle.

if it does end up indy/den that would be a really awesome matchup and story. In the end Denver would probably win with that high powered offense. But I think Indy has a chance.

So Seattle/Denver SB - the best defense against a high powered passing game. And a good offense that could have a real weapon back in Harvin VS an OK defense. High scoring SB - Sea 42, Denver 3 (kidding: Denver 35)
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 6, 2014 - 02:02pm PT
I don't see the Pats beating the Colts this time around...in spite of Brady having a hot hand. His favorite receiver is out for the season with a torn ACL. And Luck...is lucky! Indy over NE.

Denver is peaking again, and Manning is on a hot streak. So...Broncos over SD.

Colts vs. Broncos; Manning at home will really be gunning for lots of points early as well as his usual 4th quarter heroics. Revenge is probably another factor. Broncos over Indy 49-35.

In the NFC this weekend, I see Carolina over SF and Seachickens over the Aints.

Carolina has a way of dealing out upsets, so I'll go out on a shaky limb and say Carolina over Seattle in the DC.

SB: Denver over Carolina by 2 TDs.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 6, 2014 - 02:50pm PT
Chance of rain in Seattle this saturday: 100%


Broke: off all the playoff teams Carolina is the I think has the best chance to beat seattle.
Matt

Trad climber
it's all turtles, all the way dooowwwwwnn!!!!!
Jan 6, 2014 - 06:31pm PT
Nature wants to skip past playing the 49ers again- too funny!

No doubt it's a nice advantage to play at home, but GB is historically as tough as anywhere to play a post-season road game.

I'd say Seattle might just fall victim to looking past NO.
On paper SEA wins this week, but keep in mind they have not much playoff experience, as good as they are. Harvin is also questionable.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 6, 2014 - 06:48pm PT
Niners are injury free next weekend, which is a small miracle considering the conditions yesterday. Last matchup against Carolina they had no Vernon Davis and no Crabtree. I think they can win. If they do, they'll be the team nobody wants to face.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 6, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
skip past? they have to win to play. they won't.

and to say that have little playoff experience is silly. Over the past couple years four games to SF's six games.

the 'hawks are doing anything but looking past NO. I'm sure you're not paying attention to that news feed which is fine.

But seriously.... a Dome team playing in the rain in the PNW. Granted it won't be as cold as phily. But that's an issue for their passing game. And last time out the 'hawks gave up almost nothing on the ground. 27-17 hawks.

Harvin Questionable? you have a news feed the rest of us don't have? We should know his status tomorrow but everything I've run across says he's looking good. He'll play....
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 6, 2014 - 07:24pm PT
Nature, I think that's a pretty solid read. Same intuitions as I have, although I tend to not trust them when they are mine. lol

Though Manning does know how to choke in the playoffs.

Heh... truer words were never spoken. And Denver has an amazing ability to suddenly kick into "keystone cops" mode!
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 6, 2014 - 08:20pm PT
9ers vs Chargers in the Super Bowl. WC's will rule.

Yes, I said it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 6, 2014 - 09:36pm PT
Florida St is soo over-rated. Their QB is a moron and throws like a girl.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 7, 2014 - 12:22am PT
Florida St is soo over-rated. Their QB is a moron and throws like a girl.

Looks like the girlz win.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 7, 2014 - 12:24am PT
Hey, I didn't say I didn't like girls, did I?
They only won because of that lame holding call.
Both those teams have lame secondaries that would be the laughing stock
of the Pac-12. And there are 4 or 5 QB's in the Pac-12 better than those clowns.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 7, 2014 - 12:34am PT
Cheers Reilly. It was a good game eh?
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 7, 2014 - 12:51am PT
Hey, who is WML? Seems like a good person. I crack up every time I see that avatar.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 7, 2014 - 01:06am PT
Just read that Jamis Winston got drafted by the Bleveland Clowns...
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 7, 2014 - 02:03am PT
What a pathetic excuse for a football game.

Looked like college ball to me.

Hell the Raiders coulda beat both teams with their second string.

It was a pretty good comedy show at least.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 7, 2014 - 02:27am PT
That's the difference between college and The Pros.

In a Pro Game, pivotal plays are usually the result of superior skill/planning/execution. In college ball, big plays happen when someone f*#ks up.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 7, 2014 - 10:44am PT
Come on Reilly....the Pac -12 is soooo yesterday.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 7, 2014 - 12:38pm PT
Sketch,
First, it is commonly accepted that there is a huge bias towards eastern
and southern teams amongst pollsters.
Second, look at FSU's schedule:
Nevada? Ooooh! Bethune-Cookman? I thought that was a lower GI disorder?
Maryland How does a Terrapin hold a football?
NC State? Who knew the ball was oblong?
Wake Forest? No comment
Idaho? Sorry, Fritz, out of respect, again no comment.
Duke? Again, someone substituted the wrong kind of ball.
What, The Sisters of Mercy weren't available in 2013?

Third, they play Crackerball down there because the admissions departments'
primary criteria are 40 yd times, vertical leap, and BMI. There are more
Nobel laureates at UCLA and USC than all the schools east of the Mississippi
and south of the Mason-Dixon Line and we won't even start to include Cal's,
Stanford's, or UW's. Why do you think Pac-10/12 QB's are so disproportionately
represented in the NFL? Because they have the brains to go to good schools
that play pro-style offenses. Yes, the SEC puts out good linemen and runners
but name me one good pro QB and I'll name you 5 from the Pac-12 or Greater West (BYU).
BTW, how's that Tebow dude doin' these days? He really lit 'em up down yonder.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 7, 2014 - 05:31pm PT
I'd take Chargers vs 49ers in the Superbowl! With 49ers winning another Superbowl!

My prediction

San Francisco 49ers 34-17 Carolina Panthers
Travis Haussener

Trad climber
Salt Lake City
Jan 9, 2014 - 12:03pm PT
Russell Wilson-Wisc
Dres Brees-Purdue
Tom Brady-Michigan

Big Ten Wins

Peyton Manning-Tenn
Cam Newton-Auburn

Sec 2nd

Nuff Said
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 9, 2014 - 12:11pm PT
Sketch, I did note that the SEC produces great linemen and runners and my
assertion of their paucity of QB's was historically. But the best QB's
have ALWAYS come from the better schools, with a few exceptions to prove
the rule, such as Brett Favre. ;-)

And Cam Newton hasn't won diddly yet and Manning is the best ever in the
regular season but his post-season stats are far from scintillating.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 9, 2014 - 07:32pm PT
Percy Harvin will play Saturday:
http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2022635012_seahawksnotebook10xml.html

I hope the hawks win the coin toss. Cuz he's returning kicks.


Matt wrote:
Questionable

bwaahahahaaaaahaaaaa!

Git some!
Dave Davis

Social climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 11, 2014 - 01:11pm PT
When the Seahawks win the coin toss they usually choose to kick so they can receive in the second half...Weather here in Seattle is quite blustery at the present time. We'll see how this plays out...
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 11, 2014 - 01:29pm PT
yeah, looks like a wicked day for a game in Seattle.

It'll be interesting to see the 'hawks strategy if they win the coin toss.

On one hand you'd think they'd want to have the saints play into the wind in the 4th quarter.

On the other hand having Harvin take the opening kick off could really start the game off right for them.
pc

climber
Jan 11, 2014 - 01:55pm PT
Go Hawks!!

Power out all around town, 50 mph gusts... Just hang on so I can watch the game damnit!!
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 11, 2014 - 03:39pm PT
My divisional playoff picks:

Seahawks
Patriots
Broncos
Panthers
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 11, 2014 - 05:20pm PT
SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!
the #1 takeaway D is bringing the lumber!

Brees' small hands clearly can't cope with gloves.

What a bullsh!t holding call on Turbin's run. If Giacomini was holding how did the defender throw a 320 pound dude to the ground?
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 11, 2014 - 05:29pm PT
There's some bad blood between these teams and the Refs are not stepping up to effectively take care of it.
Good game though so far, despite the spread.

Breeeze not having a good game so far
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 11, 2014 - 05:47pm PT
Oh when the Saints,
Go marching home...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 11, 2014 - 06:33pm PT
Wow, the NFL has clearly ordered NO Blowout orders to the refs.
That was so totally a fumble. Do these refs work Italian football in the off season?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 11, 2014 - 07:44pm PT
Wow, that Colston is a real genius!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 11, 2014 - 07:51pm PT
I always thought you were suppose to step out of bounds with seconds left on the clock then Colston throws a foreward pass...Dunce boy...
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 11, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
Welcome to Foxboro, Mr. Luck.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 11, 2014 - 08:25pm PT
Boy, I'm not sure I can put that on Luck. That receiver just got mugged.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 11, 2014 - 08:35pm PT
Well that was tough. What a throw to Amendola. I don't think there is any doubt in my mind that Brady is the best ever.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 11, 2014 - 09:36pm PT
I'm glad this is Dierdorf's last game behind a microphone.

Hearing him go on talking about the safety on the blown punt was about all I could take. Once the ball went over the punter's head, the best of all the likely outcomes was a safety. Colts were going to score at least 3 points off of that, and potentially as many as 8. But instead they were limited to 2! Whether through brilliance or luck, Patriots made the best of it.

He didn't play back before they had to wear helmets, did he? I know Aikman had his bell rung a few too many times, which accounts for the idiotic spew we hear out of him every Sunday. But I don't know what Dierdorf's handicap is.
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 11, 2014 - 09:40pm PT
Agree, Chaz. He has called the majority of Pats games over the last several years, and he has always driven me nuts.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 11, 2014 - 10:45pm PT
Patriots are not the Chiefs
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 12, 2014 - 12:14am PT
Well, here's hopin' for Denver... but there's just too much that has to go right. And, Manning does have a unique ability to clutch in the playoffs. This is made all the worse (assuming we can even get past SD) by his record against Brady. So, I'm forced to predict (against my hopes) that either SD or the Pats turn a season for the ages into a pitifully-sputtering early end (or, right on time, depending upon your view of the Broncos).

(Hopefully, by saying this, I'm anti-jinxing. lol)
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 12, 2014 - 12:08pm PT
The Pats have one big strike against them: this game isn't in Foxboro, where they have a real home field, jinx-the-opponent advantage. Manning didn't clutch in Foxboro, the ball took a crazy bounce and hit a blocker during a punt return.

That said, the Donkeys need to attend to business today and take care of SD first!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2014 - 12:39pm PT
I like the Niners by a field goal because they have an actual running back.

The Chargers' D has played much better towards the end of the season and I
am looking for the upset. I'm not expecting one, mind you, but I am looking.
I also give the Chargers' running game the edge.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 12, 2014 - 02:56pm PT
Some slightly sub-standard officiating going on at the Panther/niner game so far.
I'm calling Carolina to win this game by a slight margin , maybe in the last minutes of the 4th.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:04pm PT
Ward,

Which call are you questioning?
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:08pm PT
Which call are you questioning?


The 12 man in the huddle for one. A total blown call.

Did you see Kapaernick do his Newton thing in the end zone?
And Boldin's antics?

Sf is probably the most conceited team in the NFL. And that's saying a lot.
But...they're a damn good team.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:20pm PT
9ers starting to gain confidence. Probably see a lot of Gore now
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:26pm PT
^^^^^^yup to pretty much what everyone else has said about the 9ers game.
Very enjoyable watch. And to think it's still sooooo early in the day!

Susan
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:26pm PT
Boldin and Gore are money.
Newton ain't too bright.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:30pm PT
Kindly note I made my last comment before Frank ripped that beauty off.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:35pm PT
Gore is the man. Tough as they come.

CK has a clock problem though
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:41pm PT
The officiating sucks....No 3 in the key , traveling , or double dribbling...WTF..?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
A sack is now considered 'roughing'.
That is called moral corruption.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
Nice throw Cam
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
Bad call on the 49er sack...there was no helmet to helmet...then the interception...Cougar Karma...
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:50pm PT
Reilly....Grab me another beer while you're up....
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:56pm PT
Starting to smell a little like a California Superbowl? or maybe just a west coast matchup, that would really annoy the east coast sports establishment

FEAR THE BOLO!
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 12, 2014 - 04:01pm PT
Buh bye Panthers.....

Sea turkeys are next
pc

climber
Jan 12, 2014 - 04:05pm PT
Lookin' forward to seeing the 49ers destroyed in Seattle next week.

Go Hawks!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 12, 2014 - 04:14pm PT
Well, we're about to see if Manning can pull it off when it really counts. FAR too many one-and-outs. This is like a clutch third-down conversion: gotta make it!

Back to the TV....
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 12, 2014 - 04:24pm PT
I always liked Welker, especially when the Pats took him from Miami and turned him into the most prolific pass catcher in the game. I'm curious to see how he holds up, since he makes his bread and butter over the middle and doesn't even need to be targeted to get hit.

Should be a great game, but I'll be watching more out of curiosity as to who the Patriots will be facing next week, and where. Whoever it is will have their hands full game planning against the ground attack, knowing Brady can easily take the game airborne as he has done so many times before.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 12, 2014 - 04:52pm PT
Hey! Is this the DENVER defense? I've not seen them play this way!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 12, 2014 - 04:59pm PT
So far, so good... except for the almost pick.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 12, 2014 - 05:29pm PT
IMHO, that was no fumble. I don't see how they get that, when the ball clearly comes out UPON impact of butt with ground. Not that it ended up mattering, but I see only complete or incomplete: no fumble. Whatever.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2014 - 05:54pm PT
Is this concussion thing part of Obamacare? Geez! I'll give 'em a concussion test:

"Here, show me that you can sign yer pay check. OK, now get yer azz back out there."
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 12, 2014 - 06:00pm PT
Te'o's imaginary girlfriend called in the imaginary concussion on the imaginary injury hotline.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 12, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
LOL... still nervous, but feeling better. Wish we coulda gone into half-time 21-zip, but unless SD reinvents itself in 15 minutes, they don't appear to have what it takes today.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:16pm PT
Go, Donkeys!
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:17pm PT

...How about them Broncos!
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:20pm PT
Never say die, but it's looking a little like we may be going on the respirator unless the Dr. comes thru with some powerful antibiotics.

Come on Bolts, make it happen.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:25pm PT
So, NE vs DEN next weekend?

Peyton may be having a great season, but the Pats can for sure win that game.

NE vs SF in the Super Bowl.

Sorry Donkey fans, but New England is going to emerge victorious.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:29pm PT
If a team is going to win or lose they should just do it big. None of this "very close...keeping the drive alive stuff." Ughhhhhhhhh and why wait til the 4th quarter to PLAY. Jess sayin'.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:33pm PT
It's only a form of entertainment.

Nothing more. Please, don't make it out to be anything other that this.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
Thanks, Jingy.

You can probably sense how I am with competition by now. :))
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:37pm PT
Ain't that a onside kick in the head!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:38pm PT
No way man, I take football so seriously!!!

It's my life!!!

LOL
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
I've been gone from Charger football for 6 years. I can't Believe Hank is still announcing.....
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:48pm PT
WML, I elect you as the most positive football fan of the 2013/14 Season. Congratulations. :)lynnie
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:53pm PT
Sorry Lynnie, one down two to go!
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:56pm PT
Great match-ups next weekend.

I predict its going to be either Seahawks or Niners against either Broncos or Patriots in the Super Bowl .
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 12, 2014 - 07:59pm PT
^^^

Both games should be classics. To my mind, the best four teams are advancing.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 12, 2014 - 08:08pm PT
Sorry Donkey fans, but New England is going to emerge victorious.

Sad to say, but I didn't see anything in this "win" to make me disagree with you. Denver has an astounding capacity to get in its own way at critical times. Stupid penalties, dropped passes (MANY!), and a defense that can always figure out a way to capitulate.

That said, the final drive was a series of important conversions.

But, it's quite frustrating to see the defense show (only) glimmers of a good defensive team. The Pats are not going to make them look good.

What I saw today tells me that it's a virtual miracle if Denver ends up in the Superbowl.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 12, 2014 - 08:13pm PT
^^

But things are as they should be.

Brady v Manning

If Manning wants to make the best statement he could.. this is his opportunity.

Bummer the Broncs can't defend at 20 yds for their lives though. Fortunately SD didn' figure that out months ago like the rest of us.

Thank god we didnt face the Colts today.

NE will score 30 pts.. the question will be Manning.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 12, 2014 - 08:17pm PT
True. But I wish it was more about Manning. Bottom line is that it's the whole team, and the defense has been really poor all season. Unless the defense can get in on Brady and really shut down that offense, I don't see the Bronco offense putting up enough points to offset the inevitable Pats scores, Bronco penalties, coupled with the likes of Holliday stupid moves (he's not a net gain this season), and so forth. The Pats just play a tighter game.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2014 - 08:58pm PT
Seahawks 24 Patriots 22 Take it to the bank, or Vegas.

BTW, do the Clippers know that Doc Rivers was moonlighting as a QB?
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 12, 2014 - 11:51pm PT
No dog in the fight but Hawks lose next week.

Goin' underdogs. Denver vs Niners in the big Apple.



mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 13, 2014 - 01:42am PT
Ready for some basketball, Sand E?

Go, Donkeys!--Mr. Rodger, a bronc fer sure
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 13, 2014 - 02:13am PT
Hawks momentum is back on the upswing, perfect timing,

biorhythm and stadium factor points to total destruction of the visiting team next week,

SF tired after two road playoffs,
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 13, 2014 - 02:44am PT
Eclipze

Trad climber
Morris Plains / Givat Haim Ichud Israel
Jan 13, 2014 - 06:54am PT
Lol sad but true ^^^ It was painful to be an Eagles fan and watch us finally have a season above .500 and then watch the stream end like that. But we did have tge best RB and QB in the league so I'm still happy. Next year with Foles as perm QB and a few tweaks we could have a serious shot. At least the half time show this year has the peppers
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 13, 2014 - 09:46am PT
The best QB? Are you daft man?
Did you actually watch any football this year?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2014 - 10:00am PT
Philo, show some compassion , man, he's an Eagles fan for Pete's sake!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 13, 2014 - 11:38am PT
For once I agree with you Sketch.

On a game.

Go games!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 13, 2014 - 12:32pm PT
Problem is Reilly.....Seahawks aren't getting past SF and the Patriots will fall to Denver.
phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Jan 13, 2014 - 01:28pm PT
There's a lot of bluster going around here about the niners over seattle, but I am a SF fan and I 'll be delighted if they can squeak one by the Seahawks...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2014 - 01:31pm PT
Jim, I'm the problem? No, I think Pete Carrol is yer problem.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 13, 2014 - 04:59pm PT
+10, Locker.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 13, 2014 - 05:16pm PT
I don't know who's going to win or lose, but one thing I do know is that there aren't a bunch of NFL players (and former players) arguing on some website about who will win the Piolet D'Or this year.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 13, 2014 - 05:18pm PT


^^^^^^
nature effin scores. that got me.
Osprey

climber
Jan 13, 2014 - 10:26pm PT
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 13, 2014 - 11:43pm PT

Doh !!!!!

Hate those Niners!!!
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Jan 13, 2014 - 11:59pm PT
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 14, 2014 - 12:21am PT
I don't know who's going to win or lose, but one thing I do know is that there aren't a bunch of NFL players (and former players) arguing on some website about who will win the Piolet D'Or this year.

You never know!!! lol so true...
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 14, 2014 - 01:05am PT
Y'all gotta' remember I lived in Denver when the Broncos were born; granted, I was still at CU then and didn't take them seriously! I seem to recall 1960?

So...I'll say it again: GO DONKEYS!!
Osprey

climber
Jan 14, 2014 - 06:54am PT
The 49ers were established in 1946 and took until the 1980's to win their first ring. You would think they came into the league wearing those by listening to their fans.
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Jan 15, 2014 - 06:40pm PT
http://bradying.com/





mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 15, 2014 - 06:53pm PT
NO POLITBALLS need apply.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 15, 2014 - 07:15pm PT
Proud.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/100145/seahawks-lead-in-ped-bans-under-carroll

KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 15, 2014 - 09:24pm PT
No surprise there. Between that, and Rogaines poster boy Pete Carroll, they've got all the substance abuse covered.

Anybody hear game day status on Percy Harvin? After getting his bell rung twice last week he's gotta be questionable at best.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 15, 2014 - 09:29pm PT
Yep. No one knows how to cheat like Slippery Pete. Just ask the Trojans.
Osprey

climber
Jan 15, 2014 - 09:37pm PT
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 15, 2014 - 09:56pm PT
Osprey

climber
Jan 15, 2014 - 10:16pm PT
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 15, 2014 - 11:37pm PT
The ladies be excitable about football, just like us guys.
Osprey

climber
Jan 16, 2014 - 09:24am PT
Let's take a look at the forecast brought to you by the Seattle Seahawks and the NFL's #1 backfield better known as the Legion of Boom.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 16, 2014 - 11:06am PT
Only in Seattle are there that many different graphics for a rainy forecast...I guess they are like the Eskimos who have so many words for types of snow.

KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 16, 2014 - 12:58pm PT
Seahawks Brass ban championship game tickets sales in Ca. Ha! No Niners fans allowed in Century Stadium. Bitches....

http://m.youtube.com/watch?sns=fb&v=WLv9EzMnvwc&desktop_uri=/watch?v=WLv9EzMnvwc&sns=fb

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 16, 2014 - 01:01pm PT
Denver did the same this week.

And NE did the same the week before. You don't see them whining about it this week.

I guess the only reason the 'niner fans are whining about it is because they didn't get a chance to play at home and do the same thing.

And they didn't (any of the teams) ban anyone. They, within NFL rules, are allowed to stipulate where they sell their tickets.

This is SOP - nothing to see here.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 16, 2014 - 01:07pm PT
got proof? in a press conference with Harbaugh he said he had no problem with it, it's within the rules, and part of the sportsmanship.

Teams have been doing this for years and years. Singling out Seattle just proves niner fans are whiners.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Jan 16, 2014 - 01:24pm PT
This guy has some skin in Sunday's game!!!111


KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 16, 2014 - 01:46pm PT
By the the book or not, I find it ironic that the smack talking Seahawks, fans included, feel the need to stack the deck every way they can to enhance home field advantage. Anything to bring a win to the title starved city of Seattle. Slippery Pete might be a bit nervous about this one.

StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 16, 2014 - 01:48pm PT
Slippery Pete likes to cut corners. You can bet he is nervous.

I heard he tried to get the 9ers banned from the stadium as well, but league told him to suck it up.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 16, 2014 - 01:57pm PT
I heard he tried to get the 9ers banned from the stadium as well, but league told him to suck it up.

make sh#t up much?

proof it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 16, 2014 - 02:03pm PT
Pete and I are both nervous because
A. Those Italian refs might show up
B. The Hawks take too many penalties
C. Sh!t happens

The Hawks' secondary are gonna school the K-bird but Harbaugh knows that and
will give him plenty of short check-offs. The ground games are about equal
although Lynch has more mass and better wheels. However, Gore does get the
job done from within. Seattle has a better return man, if they don't get
caught blocking in the back. Pete is a better coach but he has me a little
baffled. Has he been purposely holding Wilson back so he doesn't beat himself
or has Wilson become more afraid of losing than he is desirous of winning?
Their play calling was way too conservative in the second half last week
although their D pulled 'em through. It should be a legit slugfest IF the
Zebras let 'em play a little.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 16, 2014 - 02:43pm PT
Gore always drops the ball in the money games,
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 16, 2014 - 03:37pm PT

Jinks!!

I thinks its gonna be a great game but I can't shake the feeling that we are about to see just how quiet 69,000 fans at Century Stadium can be.
Matt

Trad climber
it's all turtles, all the way dooowwwwwnn!!!!!
Jan 16, 2014 - 03:57pm PT
^^^ Word ^^^

=)
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 16, 2014 - 04:51pm PT
Nature,

It was a joke. Just having some pre-game, smack talk fun.

Cheers.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 16, 2014 - 05:15pm PT
I thinks its gonna be a great game but I can't shake the feeling that we are about to see just how quiet 69,000 fans at Century Stadium can be.

Hope so...
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 16, 2014 - 05:28pm PT
nature-

Gotta' remember it's the Forty-WHINERS!!
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 16, 2014 - 05:31pm PT
http://m.youtube.com/watch?sns=fb&v=WLv9EzMnvwc&desktop_uri=/watch?v=WLv9EzMnvwc&sns=fb
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 16, 2014 - 06:13pm PT
I guess I'm just so use to whiner fans... well... the jokes on me.

this is pretty good.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/seahawks-to-seattle-fans-shut-the-f*#k-up,34967/





Reilly - I think it was less about holding them back and more about this.
they built a nice halftime lead though not on the greatest offense performance.

in the third quarter they had the nasty wind in their face so they turned to Beast Mode. By the fourth quarter they still had the 16-0 lead so there was little reason to go away from the ground game.

They took their shots in the first half and i expect the same this game.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 16, 2014 - 06:13pm PT
KP that is a classic
Osprey

climber
Jan 16, 2014 - 09:41pm PT


klk

Trad climber
cali
Jan 16, 2014 - 09:50pm PT
i'm just happy that we get to watch two teams that actually tackle.

be even happier if they played the game on something that wasn't plastic.

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 16, 2014 - 09:51pm PT
There's a chance they might be playing on ice.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 16, 2014 - 09:53pm PT
OMAHA.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 17, 2014 - 10:47am PT
All true...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2HD57z4F8E


"but I've been deaf since I was three. So I didn't listen."
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 17, 2014 - 12:11pm PT
Gotta love the chances of smack talk happening in the week leading up to the Divisionals.

100% chance of no gain, some pain, some guy talks about roagaine and seattle pain.
The Niners are so hot they're gonna be meltin' the snow right off Rainier, the place is gonna flood, and then we'll see who's winning & who's whining, YO!
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 17, 2014 - 04:17pm PT
Harvin was just ruled out for tomorrow; he didn't pass the concussion protocol.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 17, 2014 - 04:19pm PT
Harvin was just ruled out for tomorrow; he didn't pass the concussion protocol.

What, he couldn't sign his check?
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 17, 2014 - 04:26pm PT
No, he still thinks he is a barista named Moonbeam.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 18, 2014 - 01:11pm PT
She-hawks better wear their best pumps and tighten down their bonnets, it is going to be a long evening.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 18, 2014 - 01:48pm PT
Stahlbro, yous gots identity issues being a Whiner fan in San Diego. Jess sayin'...
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 18, 2014 - 01:54pm PT
Reilly,

I lived in the Bay Area for while.

I used to be a Rams fan. Then I watched Jim "Chrissy" Everett hook slide 3 yards short of a first down with the playoffs on the line.

Next I watched Steve Young put his head down and go hard to get the first down with the game on the line.

Been a 9ers fan ever since.

Of course I root for the Chargers.
go-B

climber
Romans 5:8
Jan 18, 2014 - 01:54pm PT
Rip rah ree hit um in the knee,
rip rop rasp kick um in the other knee...GO BRONCOS!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 18, 2014 - 03:21pm PT
What a slam on a great lady competitor, the blondiest ever, Chris 'for the win' E...for shame.

Renee Richards, more like.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 18, 2014 - 03:35pm PT
No, he still thinks he is a barista named Moonbeam.

Lol!
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 18, 2014 - 04:11pm PT
You are right Mouse. Chrissy is the real deal.
Matt

Trad climber
it's all turtles, all the way dooowwwwwnn!!!!!
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:44am PT
P S Y C H E D !!!

Let's go 9ers!!!
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:06am PT
I thought football was over for the year a month and a half ago when the Saskatchewan Roughriders won the Grey Cup, but Mimi tells me there's some kind of football league down here in the US and that they're still playing even though it's January. Weird.

I doubt they play at a very high level, but I'm going to go over and watch it with her and Steve this afternoon.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:18am PT
Wish I could join you guys. I know it'll be fun.

BTW... I'm close to finishing Shiro.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:29am PT
You're right ghost, shabby talents these NFL guys. The real ballers play rugby.
I here this on a regular basis from my good friend and employer who grew up in the Fulham district of London.
Still trying to figure a way of telling him he's wrong without getting my wage cut....
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:36am PT
An English friend once told me -- absolutely seriously -- that if you had to pick one sport that generated the overall best athletes, athletes that would excel at any sport they turned to, it would be cricket.

He wasn't joking.

I didn't know what to say.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:51am PT
Ghost, was he on 'shrooms? I could believe him if he had said rugby, or rounders.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:57am PT
That's what I thought. I could understand if he didn't know much about what it took to play NFL football, but surely he knew about rugby and soccer.

And I'll admit I haven't seen hundreds of cricket matches, and I'm sure that the top level cricketers are serious athletes, but...

Edit to add: He may not have been on shrooms, but he was climbing in the middle of winter in Scotland, with me, so he probably was pretty crazy.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:58am PT
WBC Championship, Caesar's Palace, June 1982. There had not been a white world heavyweight champion in 22 years, and Cooney would try to change that. Cooney was cast as "The Great White Hope" in one of the most anticipated fights of the early 1980s.

Holmes: 39-0. Cooney: 25-0.



My point:
Seahawks never have done it. Niners have. This will be a tough game for both teams. I'm looking forward to it.

Seahawks lose in OT.

My God, man! Cricket?
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jan 19, 2014 - 12:23pm PT
An English friend once told me -- absolutely seriously -- that if you had to pick one sport that generated the overall best athletes, athletes that would excel at any sport they turned to, it would be cricket.

He wasn't joking.
Don't know much about cricket, but assuming it's basically the same as baseball from an athletic standpoint, I can believe it.
The NFL players (in some positions) look more like the guy on the cover of a glossy fitness magazine, but the hand eye coordination and speed necessary to hit at the major league level is on a different realm.
weezy

climber
Jan 19, 2014 - 01:35pm PT
what a load of crap^^^

everyone knows that curling produces the finest athletes.



go hawks!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 19, 2014 - 02:44pm PT
Well if Bronco's can keep turnovers to 1 or less and not give away more than a 2 or 3 1st downs on penalties, They really should win.
go-B

climber
Romans 5:8
Jan 19, 2014 - 03:59pm PT
Touchdown Denver!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 19, 2014 - 05:53pm PT
Thats game! Denver on the way. They made no big mistakes and the defense even did very well.

Go 9ers now.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 19, 2014 - 06:05pm PT
Can't wait to hear the Patsy's excuses.
Hard to win when Belicheat and McTrainwreck can't bug the opponents locker room.
Well done Broncos, well deserved!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 06:06pm PT
That's the defense I've been waiting to see!

Yeeeehaw!
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 19, 2014 - 06:10pm PT
GO BRONCOS!!!!
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 19, 2014 - 06:16pm PT
Congrats to the donkeys. 9ers will see you soon.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 19, 2014 - 06:25pm PT
I was ready for some football but I guess Boston wasn't.
No D and too little and too late on the O.

It don't matter to the SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go-B

climber
Romans 5:8
Jan 19, 2014 - 06:29pm PT
BRONCOS=XLVIII
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 19, 2014 - 06:43pm PT
You didn't want that to happen, Seattle!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 19, 2014 - 06:45pm PT
The Seahawks defence has never faced an offence like this.
The Manning led Broncos are 27 & 7 in the last two years. That is another NF
L record.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 19, 2014 - 07:15pm PT
Doc Breelo showing the defense what to do, Anasazi Bowl year of the locust plague.
Little known fact, Cliff Raven won MVPee. Ten feet and six inches into a clay pot!

Seawhocks goin' down!
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 19, 2014 - 07:30pm PT
10-0
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
The Hawks don't seem to be able to fly.

And SF has now clearly demonstrated that they CAN move the ball against the Hawks' defense, even with the 12th man on the field.

SF vs. Broncos.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 19, 2014 - 07:39pm PT
CLEARLY.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 19, 2014 - 07:47pm PT
I don't like the Hawks' play calling. They don't employ Kearse enough on
the quick look-in. Truth be told the O line ain't gettin' it done.
Only giving up the field goal after the big pass was a big pump up for the Niners' D.
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Jan 19, 2014 - 07:51pm PT
omaha !
go-B

climber
Romans 5:8
Jan 19, 2014 - 07:52pm PT
^^^^^
sweet!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 07:52pm PT
Yeah, SF is getting in on Wilson a lot.

Who knows? I expect the Hawks to do better. Still early.

12th man not having the expected effect thus far....
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 19, 2014 - 07:55pm PT
Brutal game. Both teams are moving really fast and hitting really hard. Brutal

Hawks front line offense is being eaten alive by 9er pass rush D, at least up until now. That could change.

Harbaugh= obvious deranged ranting crazy man , as usual.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 08:07pm PT
It could change. You know what the number one topic of "conversation" is going to be in the Hawks' locker room.

Watching Wilson spend his life backpedaling and dodging reminds me of a game of Serious Sam. lol
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 19, 2014 - 08:16pm PT
MB,
Let it play out brother, you're back and forth like a politician.

Trotter,
You'd be a deranged ranting crazy man too if your boys were plagued by dog sh#t calls like that one. What happened to "let 'em play".

Go Raiders!!
Or Niners......

StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 19, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
Home team ref's, meh. Wilson is scared to run it.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 08:20pm PT
Hehe... I'm back and forth because I don't know. But I'm leaning SF.

What I'm not back and forth on is that I believe strongly that the Broncos can beat either of these teams. So, I don't really have a dog in this present fight. We'll see if SF keeps getting in on Wilson.

Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 19, 2014 - 08:21pm PT
You'd be a deranged ranting crazy man too if your boys were plagued by dog sh#t calls like that one. What happened to "let 'em play".

Every team gets plagued by bad calls. Harbaugh is a road rage maniac.

What happened to "let 'em play

That's slowly going out with the new concussion protocols coming in.
The harder the hitting , the more frequent the bullshit calls by refs.
Today's NFL.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 19, 2014 - 08:33pm PT
We got a game .
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Jan 19, 2014 - 08:33pm PT
ok that was huge...
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 19, 2014 - 08:35pm PT
^^^^^. Gulp


Susan
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 19, 2014 - 08:42pm PT
Heavy weight fight, going the distance.....
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 08:50pm PT
Both teams are the real deal. Great game!
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 19, 2014 - 08:54pm PT
Clash of the Titans....
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:00pm PT
That's slowing going out with the new concussion protocols coming in.
The harder the hitting , the more frequent the bullshit calls by refs.

Right, except that all week the refs themselves have said that they would let 'em go.
Ain't seeing it, that's all. Including that weak roughing the punter call against Seattle.
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:01pm PT
can either team handle denver...
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:04pm PT
Right, except that all week the refs themselves have said that they would let 'em go.

The refs were talking about how they were going to call the game ???

Wow , great TD catch.
This is turning into a great game.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:08pm PT
I smell overtime.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:19pm PT
That's right Trotter, the refs have made it clear the they would let 'em play. It's been in the media all week.

Game over....that pick seals it
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:19pm PT
not sure that's what you're smellin ;-)
go-B

climber
Romans 5:8
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:19pm PT
oh my!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:23pm PT
9rs are really getting robbed.

And that knee shot.. yeah.. not good.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:24pm PT
Wow, home town ref's strike again
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:25pm PT
That Seratore ref is a hack...! 3 blown calls..
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:25pm PT
Best player out.

Bad turn of events.....again.

Harbaugh, three years in a row, best team, no gold.

Ain't meant to be.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:26pm PT
Justice
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:26pm PT
what a crazy game.. Karma play
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:27pm PT
that was totally karma...
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:27pm PT
This game is not over.
9ers on the receiving end of some bad calls and they're pissed.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:27pm PT
That was absurd! Terrible officiating!

go-B

climber
Romans 5:8
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:30pm PT
whoop whoop whoop!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:37pm PT
Telling myself to breathe, IT'S ONLY A GAME

Susan

Edit... What's up with Arnold and the table tennis? Headband? Wierd.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:39pm PT
Yeah but what a game!

Ok SF you better unleash the QB..you stopped doing what worked in the first half. Why?

This game was always going to hang on the wildcard..Kaepernick doing something remarkable. Which he has when allowed.
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:42pm PT
susan - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_Borg
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:46pm PT
Damn good point climb2
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:53pm PT
Good job Seahawks

Sherman's a gangsta PED using punk.

Go Broncos!!
bergbryce

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:55pm PT
those seagulls are gonna get skewered. 0/3 in the red zone, without 2 giveaways they woulda lost.
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:55pm PT
wow...
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:56pm PT
The NFL post-season has been GREAT this year.
Great match-up for the Super Bowl

I predict Denver Broncos.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:57pm PT
Take Denver. Give the points, whatever the spread ends up being.

The spread was "pick 'em" a minute ago, but that's going to change.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:58pm PT
A real game! I hope Bowman isn't looking at complete knee reconstruction. That was sickening.

I like this outcome. Now Seattle will have to stop a history-making offense.

Broncos!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 19, 2014 - 09:58pm PT
Sherman wins sportsman of the game award for stripping a bolt and calling Crabtree a bitch on national TV...Too funny
WBraun

climber
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:02pm PT
What a stupid game.

The refs were cheating as usual :-)

I saw .....
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:03pm PT
Seattle cheated.

They snuck in a Thirteenth Man at halftime.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:03pm PT
Donkeys by 2 TDs in the SB!!!!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:08pm PT
What did I tell yous goons?

The Hawks' secondary is gonna school the K-bird.

Thank you.


And the Seahawks will run rough-shod over the Jackazzes who don't have half the Niners' D.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:16pm PT
Everyone squawks.

It was sure a close one.

It was enjoyable.

It was like a good day at the crag.

It's like I told the guy, "Sometimes yer gonna live, etc.," at the Trophy Room.

A Rousing match.

Pip-effin-pip, mates...
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:19pm PT
Reilly..You were right....! For once...
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:19pm PT
Sorry but I for one am not impressed. Neither NFC team showed much to impress me. Reckless and rough shod defence will not be enough to stop the most potent offence in NFL history. If both of these teams could score so many points against each others supposed iron defence then their imagined prowess, like the KC Chiefs brfore them, is doubtfull and Peyton should be able to lay 4TDs and 40 points on the Seahawks.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:29pm PT
Philo, the Hawks are gonna control the ball with Lynch so Manning won't get his grubby mitts on the ball that often. And he only managed 26 points against the Patriots' pathetic secondary.

Hawks 27. HeeHaws 24
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:36pm PT
And the Seahawks will run rough-shod over the Jackazzes who don't have half the Niners' D.

Denver can slow/stop the Hawks' running game. Their passing game is not troubling, and Denver can get in on Wilson. So, the Hawks will put up some points, but they are not going to be able to handle Denver's offense, which is at a whole new level compared to anything these NFC teams have seen. And Denver is peaking (particularly the defense) at the right time.

Kaepernick was able to pass pretty effectively against the Hawks' defense, and he is NO Manning!

SF also made some amazingly bad time-management decisions in the last 45 seconds of that game. You don't go for the bomb with 2 timeouts left and while completing passes closer and closer to the end zone.

Today Denver played like it can dominate. The same cannot be said for Seattle. And bad officiating played a significant role in that Seattle win.

But, it's all talk for now. I'm happily confident through the next two weeks, though. :-)
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:40pm PT
after careful study, I'm going to have to take Buffalo and 27 points...
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:41pm PT
It's the Mary Jane Bowl!

Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:46pm PT

w.r.t. two upthread:
Edge scores!!!! Whatever the outcome of the SB.

Oh, and the Hawks are likely going to have Harvin and therefore a hint of a passing offence.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:49pm PT
The Seahawks have not faced a premier offence all year and Denver has won more games in the last two years than any team in NFL history. Sorry Hawks fans but defence wont win this championship game.
Osprey

climber
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:52pm PT
Its been a great season for the Hawks. Glad to see them Super bowl bound. And to think they spotted the Niners 10 points.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:01pm PT
Seratore...The 12th man....
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:01pm PT

Denver has won more games in the last two years than any team in NFL history.

Phil, maybe I am not understanding you correctly, but I don't think that's true. The Pats went 28-4 over the 2003 & 2004 regular seasons, and won the SB both years. Am I misunderstanding you?
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:22pm PT
I remember Fox putting up a small graphic that I think Philo is referring to. It stated that Denver had beaten the two-year win-loss record with their win over the Pats. I don't remember what the numbers were, and it was only up briefly.

Actually, I HATE Fox's coverage! Their announcers are just terrible, and their graphics are often confusing and even misleading. And they figure out a way to PACK advertising in constantly with overlays, etc., even when having the overlay up cuts into seeing the start of the upcoming play. It goes on and on. So sad that they have the SB.

So, perhaps, perchance Fox just got it wrong.
weezy

climber
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:24pm PT
my heart is with the shehawks, but my money is on the donkeys.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:30pm PT
I wonder if this is the record Fox was TRYING to convey and that Philo is referring to (I believe the number in their graphic was 26-7):

"Career winning percentage, quarterback

"With a two-year mark of 26-7 (.788), Peyton Manning surpassed Jake Plummer (39-15) as the franchise leader in winning percentage by a starting quarterback." (http://www.milehighreport.com/2013/12/31/5255828/broncos-nfl-records-2013-peyton-manning);
Osprey

climber
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:31pm PT
Seattle finished the regular season 13-3 while facing the 11th toughest strength of schedule for 2013. Denver finished 13-3 while facing the easiest strength of schedule in the entire NFL for the 2013 season.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:02am PT
after careful study, I'm going to have to take Buffalo and 27 points...

Thank god! At least one other person here understands what's going on.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:08am PT
I'll let everyone know , within one week, what the point spread will be for the Super Bowl.
Until then you are on your own.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:18am PT
Denver by a touchdown. That'll be the game-day spread.

Take Denver, give the points.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:29am PT
Denver in a walk.

Go climbing instead.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 20, 2014 - 02:16am PT
Ah, not quite.
bearbnz

Trad climber
East Side, California
Jan 20, 2014 - 10:37am PT
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 11:05am PT
opening line was seattle -1.5 but that flipped to denver -1. It's going to be close.

it's laughable to state the donkeys will hang 40 on seattle which was number 1 with 14.4 pts allowed per game. They couldn't do it to NE *IN* Denver and seattle has a much better defense. In particular they have the #1 passing defense and w/o argument that best secondary in the league.

Meanwhile Denver has the #22nd or so ranked defense. Seattle has been playing top five defenses (NO, SF, Car, AZ) and denver hasn't.

Manning is going to get his head taken off. Kap can run and that's a huge weapon. Manning can't and that's a liability.

And stopping Marshawn Lynch. Good luck with that. One of the best just had a 100+ hung on them. They hadn't allowed that all season.

What's really amazing to me is Seattle goes into the superbowl healthier than they started the season. Minus Sydney Rice and Browner this team is healthy. Add back in Percy just-in-time-for-the-superbowl Harvin and Maxwell (who's better than Browner).

Donkeys can't say the same.

And maybe it's just the difference between AFC and NFC but no... it wasn't high profile passing game. It was a beat down of epic proportions. Not sure the donkeys are ready for the smack across the mouth they are about to get.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2014 - 11:19am PT
Nature, thanks for saving me the typing; almost word for word.
You only failed to mention Manning is 9-11 in the post-season with a very
pedestrian QB rating of 86.

You also failed to point out to Philo that he is rooting for a Buick-flogging Republican
and that Russel Wilson is a Democrat.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 20, 2014 - 11:34am PT
Broncos are out gunned.

Love to see them win but don't see it happening.
Roughster

Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
Jan 20, 2014 - 11:35am PT

I was sure I wasn't the only one who saw this during the game. This dude is going to get fined big time.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 11:45am PT
Lane noted the knock down.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2014 - 11:49am PT
Reilly you keep your politics out of my football. Lol :-)



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1929452-no-matter-what-happens-in-super-bowl-peyton-manning-has-answered-doubters


It’s pretty hard to criticize a likeable, amazing player, but Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning still has his doubters. Manning’s performance in cold weather and the postseason have been criticized—even though that criticism often lacks perspective.

With a 26-16 win over the New England Patriots and their quarterback Tom Brady in the AFC Championship Game, Manning has told his critics to shove it where the sun doesn’t shine for the second time this season. No matter what happens in the Super Bowl, Manning’s ability to perform in any situation should no longer be in doubt.

Critics sometimes even noted how the Super Bowl would be played outdoors in the cold weather of New Jersey. That’s funny, because the only way the Broncos could earn a trip to the Super Bowl was if Manning performed in two playoff games in Denver.

Manning threw for 400 yards and two touchdowns against the Patriots after throwing for 230 yards and two touchdowns last week. Even though it wasn’t cold, Manning already answered those critics by throwing for 397 yards and four touchdowns in 18-degree weather in Week 14 against the talented secondary of the Tennessee Titans.

Playoff Struggles???
Game Yards Completion % Touchdowns Interceptions
vs. Chargers 230 69.4% 2 1
vs. Patriots 400 74.4% 2 0
Total 630 72.2% 4 1
nfl.com

Manning also moved to 11-11 in postseason games Sunday, effectively erasing eight one-and-done performances. It will be Manning’s third trip to the Super Bowl in the past eight years.

If you discount the year he lost to a neck injury, Manning and Brady have both made it to the Super Bowl twice in their last seven seasons. Manning was also the last one of the two men to win a Super Bowl, since Brady hasn’t won one since the 2004 season.

If the measure of greatness is Super Bowls, consider that Manning, his brother Eli, Ben Roethlisberger and Brady are the only four quarterbacks to make it to the Super Bowl multiple times in the past decade. Eli has won two, Roethlisberger two, Brady two and Manning one.

Manning has also made the Super Bowl with two different franchises, becoming just the second player ever to do so. If you want to put all the blame on Manning for his lack of postseason success, he also deserves the credit for all that he has been able to accomplish in the postseason.

With just 116 passing yards in the Super Bowl, Manning will pass Brady for the most postseason passing yards in history. Manning will likely get that record in just 23 postseason games compared to Brady’s NFL-record 26 postseason games.

Quarterbacks w/ 20 Postseason Starts
Quarterback Games Comp. % Yards Per Game TD % INT % YPA
Tom Brady 26 62.11% 247.1 4.61% 2.32% 6.76
Brett Favre 24 60.81% 244.0 5.56% 3.79% 7.4
Joe Montana 23 62.67% 251.0 4.61% 2.86% 7.86
Peyton Manning 22 64.05% 286.8 4.29% 2.62% 7.51
John Elway 22 54.53% 225.6 4.15% 3.23% 7.63
Steve Young 20 62.00% 166.3 4.61% 2.76% 7.06
Pro-Football-Reference.com

Of the six quarterbacks with 20 or more postseason appearances, Manning’s 286.8 yards per game passing is the highest mark by nearly 30 yards per game.

Some of that has to do with how the league has changed, but Brady is still second to Manning.

Manning also has the highest completion percentage of any of those six quarterbacks at 64.1 percent. Statistically, Manning has carried over his greatness to the postseason—his teams just haven’t always carried over their success.

Yards aren’t everything, but Manning’s touchdown rate and interception rate are also similar to Brady’s. Manning has a higher postseason touchdown rate than John Elway and a lower postseason interception percentage than Joe Montana.

Manning’s yards-per-attempt average is also much higher than Brady’s by 0.75 yards. Brady isn’t criticized for his postseason performance because he has multiple Super Bowl rings, but there’s really no other reason. Their performances have been nearly the same, and Sunday’s game proved how much their supporting cast plays a factor.

In his career, Manning has had to carry his team a lot more than Brady. The average rank in points allowed of Brady’s defenses is seventh. Manning’s average defense has been 13th in playoff years.

Brady vs. Manning Supporting Defense
Split Brady (Patriots) Manning (Colts/Broncos) Difference
Average Defense Rank (Playoff Years) 7 13 5
Avg. in SB Appearance 6 18 12
Avg. in SB Win 3 23 20
Pro-Football-Reference.com

In trips to the Super Bowl, Brady’s worst defense was ranked 15th with an average ranking of sixth. Manning has now taken two below-average defenses to the Super Bowl, and the best defense he made it with was ranked eighth in the league.

While some may argue that Manning needs to win another Super Bowl to quiet his critics, even a terrible performance isn’t going to change the numbers drastically. He is widely regarded as the best regular-season quarterback of all time, and his performance in the postseason is now starting to mirror that dominance.

A second ring will certainly cement Manning’s legacy, but to say he struggles in the postseason is simply not true. Manning is one of the best quarterbacks ever to play the game no matter when or where that game is played.
TwistedCrank

climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
Jan 20, 2014 - 11:56am PT
It doesn't really matter. Fifteen years from now the players will have brain damage and won't remember a thing anyway. Who the fcuk invented football anyway? Someone ought to tear that guy a new one.
pc

climber
Jan 20, 2014 - 11:57am PT
Manning and Brady have seen their day. It's now time for the super mobile general's to take over. Wilson's equally good arm and mind combined with his mobility give a big edge. Add to that the best defense, by far, Denver will have seen this year...

Nobody will fault Manning for chocking. The Broncos will simply be crushed.

;)

Go Hawks.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:07pm PT
BTW... the mistake they made was interviewing Sherman right after the game. Put a mic under Wilson's face and wait for the rest.

40-10
pc

climber
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:24pm PT
Nature,

I'm sure it wasn't a mistake. As far as the press are concerned it was absolute gold. The Seahawks PR crew might not have been overly happy about it though.

No biggie to me. Sherman's a great character and amazing football player. Stick a mic in his face right after a tussle with Crabtree and probably a lot of trash talk both ways all week and throughout the game...What do you expect?

He probably blew any chance for running for president though ;)

Go Hawks!

pc

ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:34pm PT
Mr. Lynch is going to have Pot Roast for dinner. Wilson looked less and less sure of himself on that big stage when he was running backwards in excess of 20 yrds at a crack, not a clue where his guys were downfield. And yes, the Niners got some really bad calls but Kap's passing wasn't exactly stellar "in the pocket"

OMAHA!!!!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:41pm PT
It sounds like Crabtree was dissing him before the season, during the week and during the game.

After the game Grabtree noted "he made one play". They threw Shermans way twice. First time he got called on a valid holding call. Otherwise Kap was smart not to throw his way. It's BS to say he made one play. Every play he blanketed his guy. That's making plays.

Poor Denver. Manning loves his crossing routes. There isn't a team better at making the WRs pay on crossing routes. Legion of Boom.

philo you can post all those stats and read into it anything you want. Seattle doesn't care about the stats. At all.

Seattle matches up against Denver rather nicely.

They have a the best passing defense in the league by far. They have turned into an incredible run stuffing offense (they completely shut down Gore). They can put a lot of the pressure on the QB and pure pocket passer like Manning becomes a non-moving target. In SF game seattle spied Kap. They don't need to do that with Manning.

On offense Seattles ground game will do just fine against the denver front line. Has Denver ever played against a read-option team? That seattle might run read-option is favorable to the 'Hawks.

And on special teams they have Harvin returning kicks. Though he'll probably only return two or three ;)
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:57pm PT
If the Hawks' defense is something that the Bronco's offense should be so afraid of, then why was Kap (no stellar passer) moving the ball against them most effectively with the pass?

Reilly, where do you get that QB rating in the 80's? Manning has actually set a record for consistently high QB rating (see the link I posted above), and it averages in the 115's.

Comparing the Broncos' scoring against the Pats (a team that has played the Bronc regularly and that "has their number") with what's gonna happen against the Hawks is comparing apples and giraffes.

You can focus on the Broncs not having played this tough of a defense, but I prefer to focus on the Hawks not having played this serious of a point-scoring-machine offense. And, again, Kap is NO Manning, yet HE could pass against them!

Wilson spent most of that game running backward and scrambling around like he was playing a game of Serious Sam. Pretty comical, actually.

Of course, we'll see, but I'm not worried. :-) The number one offense against the number one defense... should be very fun and interesting to watch!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 01:06pm PT
Yes, I too feel defeated when a QB gets positive yards by throwing the ball.

Not sure what you were seeing but Kap finished 16-26 and 153 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs and 56.5 rating. Not sure how that is effective at all. Although take away the rushing from Kap and the 31 total yards in rushing compared, I suppose you are right. Throwing was more effective than rushing.

Manning is twice the QB of Kap. Soo.... 32-52 306 yards, 2 TDs, 4 INTs.


The unstoppable force VS the immovable object.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Jan 20, 2014 - 01:21pm PT
"serious sam" LMAO, haven't heard that one in a long time!

Kap did throw some Jay Cutler (the 18 million dollar man) type int's in that game.

Minimizing mistakes, ball security and on field awareness are often the difference between wins and losses on a big stage. Peyton's got those in spades.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2014 - 01:24pm PT
Madbolter, Wiki, where else?



That worm lives in his brain and it is always gonna turn.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 20, 2014 - 01:37pm PT
Two big plays that killed the Niners, among a few others, were the fourth down 51yd pass play conversion to Baldwin and special teams run back blunder. Plays that you just can't let happen.

I think officiating had little impact on the outcome even though it sucked across the boards.
The one big blown call when Bowman injured his knee was cancelled out two plays later by a Seattle turnover.

Seahawks beat 'em, plain and simple. They played just better enough to get the win.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 02:01pm PT
Kap was more effective passing than with the team-rushing game (excepting his couple of scrambles). My point is that the vaunted Hawks' defense allowed HIM to move the ball passing. And he did throw some just ridiculously bone-headed passes that you won't see from Manning. Age and experience over youth and beauty every time. LOL

If Kap can move the ball passing, Manning can in spades (far better than "double"). And "doubling up" the Kap-passing stats doesn't get you 4 interceptions. It gets you 1 or less.

Passer rating? Okay, here's a few non-wiki points, all from http://www.milehighreport.com/2013/12/31/5255828/broncos-nfl-records-2013-peyton-manning ....

Most 90+ passer rating games.... Manning had 15 such games in 2013, tying the NFL record he set in 2004. Stretching back into 2012, Manning decimated the record for most consecutive 90+ passer rating games in the regular season with 23.

I don't get 86 out of that anywhere. You are looking at pre-Broncos stats, which are pretty meaningless to this present reality.

Passer Rating.... Manning shattered his old franchise mark of 105.8 by posting a mark of 115.1 in 2013.

2012 wasn't his all-time best season, but we're talking about this season. So, again, I don't see anything like an 86 being relevant to THIS present discussion.

Interception percentage (career).... Manning has thrown 21 interceptions over the course of 1242 attempts giving him an interception percentage of 1.69 besting the mark of 1.8 set by Hugh Millen in 1994-95).

Have I mentioned that Kap is NO Manning? The Hawks are not going to be able to expect to get the gimme interceptions that Kap handed them. Manning has the best read of a defense of any QB in history, and he also has the best feel for when to deliver the ball and where to put it of any QB in history. Bluntly, the Hawks just haven't had to defend against the ridiculous depth of weaponry that the Broncs are bringing.

Best defense against the best offense. This could be the best SB ever!

I'm chomping at the bit (pun intended).
John M

climber
Jan 20, 2014 - 02:07pm PT
Reilly's post was a post season QB rating. not season.. He hasn't shined that great in the post season.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2014 - 02:12pm PT
So those stats don't include this season's postseason.
The bottom line is he's 12-11 in the post season with one ring. <YAWN>
And don't talk to me like I'm the Pelut of football, okay?











JUST KIDDING! ;-)
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Jan 20, 2014 - 02:16pm PT
Wilson is going to have to complete some throws down the field. And more designed QB runs to keep the LBs honest. Let them blitz, and throw screens and slants. On D, anticipate those rubs and picks and really lay Decker or Welker out if/when they try it (perfectly legal within 1 yard of the LOS). That is Denver's bread and butter, disrupt it. Lots of blitz packages too, dropping back into coverage isn't going to help you stop Manning, hit him hard, get in his face. He's basically immobile.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 02:19pm PT
Ahh... well, I have readily admitted that Manning's post-season record is really bad (tied for last in the NFL). That's a well-known fact. But, again, this season is a very different season indeed, and on many levels.

If you'll look back upthread, you'll see all the predictions of the terrible demise of the Broncos at the hands of the Pats, and these same stats were trotted out to support those predictions (including, of course, Manning's absolutely terrible record against the Pats). I don't hear those folks retracting anything now that the Broncs handily beat the Pats THIS post-season.

This is a different season, a history-making season. The Broncs have NEVER had such breadth and depth, and Manning is on a roll like no QB in history.

Twain said: "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics." And pointing to past stats to predict future events is always a sketchy endeavor. In this case, in particular, if you look at present realities and how the Hawks played yesterday, I'm feeling pretty good about Denver's offense against Seattle's defense. I predict more Serious Sam for Wilson, and I predict a level of pinpoint pass completions that have Denver scoring against Seattle like they cannot believe.

Of course, that is ALL predicated on Denver's defense playing as well or slightly better than they did yesterday, and on Manning playing like he CAN (which is, with him, always an open question).
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 02:21pm PT
JUST KIDDING! ;-)

LOL... no worries, Reilly. "Pelut of football," indeed.
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Jan 20, 2014 - 02:35pm PT
And he did throw some just ridiculously bone-headed passes that you won't see from Manning. Age and experience over youth and beauty every time. LOL

Kap played well enough to probably beat any other team in the league. That first pick...idiotic for sure but any QB can make mistakes. Sometimes the best QBs (like Manning) make kind of a habit of forcing passes into tight coverage because most of the time they can. Or they throw with such velocity that balls get tipped or bounced around. Point is any QB can throw pics. Kap nearly won that game with his arm, just happened that Crabtree lost that battle in the end zone, lost position, Kap underthrew him, game over.

Manning will probably throw an INT unless he plays with the lead for the whole game. Trying to pass your way back into a game makes you much more vulnerable,
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 02:40pm PT
I think that's a really good summary-analysis, fluffy. Points well taken.

Again, though, Kap isn't Manning, and Kap almost won that game against the most vaunted defense in the NFL. The pass CAN win against Seattle, and if anybody can do it, Manning can.

That said, to me the funnest thing about watching football is seeing the myriad of tiny details that all have to go your way in order to put everything together for a win against a good team. I think this year's SB is going to be a full-blown STUDY in such things, for both teams.
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Jan 20, 2014 - 02:45pm PT
Can't imagine a reasonable scenario where Manning and Co. don't win the SB. Team of destiny, team of immense talent, team that's really healthy, most of all a team that is playing as a team.

I'm just hoping for an entertaining game, SBs can be anticlimactic...we've endured some real snoozefests. Hell lets just hope there's no power outages.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Jan 20, 2014 - 02:57pm PT
Yep ^^^^^

#only11men
Osprey

climber
Jan 20, 2014 - 03:24pm PT
Denver hasn't faced a top 5 defense this year.
Baltimore 12th
New York Giants. 8th
Oakland 22nd
Philly. 29th
Dallas 32nd
Jacksonville 27th
Indy 20th
Washington 18th
San Diego 23rd
KC 24th
New England 26th
KC 24th
Tenn 14th
San Diego 23rd
Houston 7th
Oakland 22nd

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 20, 2014 - 03:39pm PT
O, God!

Save us from, Not just MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKS,

but also from HOLIDAY MONDAY QUARTERQUACKS!


[Click to View YouTube Video]What's it like having Donini clean your climb for you?

madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 03:56pm PT
So, a 37/13 win over the number 7 defense (by your list) means that Denver (now late in the season and MUCH better) is just going to be stymied by any "top five" defense? I'm not convinced.

I didn't see ANYTHING on the part of SF or Seattle yesterday leading me to think that either of those teams would pose a significant problem for Denver's offense. In fact, I'm happier that Denver plays Seattle, because I considered Kap's out-of-the-pocket threats to be huge! Whew... dodged a bullet there... thanks Seattle!
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 20, 2014 - 05:09pm PT
Even though I am neither a Fortywhiner nor Shechickens fan, I felt the Whiners got screwed by questionable officiating. Kaepernick should have been called upon to run more sweeps in the 2nd half; poor play calling combined with some lousy calls that went against SF were enough to derail the BART train on it's way to the SB!
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 20, 2014 - 05:31pm PT
What other "analysts" here at S-T haven't mentioned: NO ONE in football can read a defense better and make adjustments better than PM! Combine that ability with his quick release and accuracy, the SEACHICKENS ARE TOAST!! The two Thomas', (Julius and Demarius) are just too big and athletic to be handled by the Seattle secondary--or linebackers. Don't forget that Knowshon Moreno can catch and run, too. Meanwhile, Decker and Welker have to be covered. Heh, heh!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 05:51pm PT
As "analyst" (LOL), I made that very point upthread:

"Manning has the best read of a defense of any QB in history, and he also has the best feel for when to deliver the ball and where to put it of any QB in history. Bluntly, the Hawks just haven't had to defend against the ridiculous depth of weaponry that the Broncs are bringing."

I'm not ready to call the Hawks "toast," but I think that Denver can bring it against this defense.

Edit: And, hey, what's more fun that being a Monday-morning-QB? It's part of the basic engagement with the game. :-)
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 05:51pm PT
Team of destiny, team of immense talent, team that's really healthy, most of all a team that is playing as a team.


You described the Seahawks.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 20, 2014 - 05:57pm PT
now it is a race to 1, who ever gets the rolls wins,

what kind of aging rock stars do we have to put up with this time?

SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jan 20, 2014 - 05:59pm PT
Went swimming today. I'm now officially over the 49ers loss.
Thank you 70 degree weather for making my swim comfortable in just a shorty wet suit. It was a shorty swim too.

Susan
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
I wonder sometimes how much fans of AFC teams pay attention to NFC teams.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2014 - 06:04pm PT
The Patriots' secondary was atrocious. If you think those guys are gonna
have that kind of day against the Legion of Doom and Pete Carrol y'all are nuts.
Ask Drew Brees. And Drew Brees was able to scramble some. Manning needs a walker.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2014 - 06:10pm PT
That's because the NFC is a league of cretins.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2014 - 06:23pm PT
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 06:26pm PT
Killin' me, philo!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 06:27pm PT
well... at least you confirmed the obvious (about not paying attention).

Osprey has a good post.

Dinking and dunking on Seattle is not a good idea. Keep sending guys over the middle on quick slants and the Donkeys will be using RB's as wide receivers. The B in LOB stands for BOOM. The middle in front of Cam is a bad place to be.

Haha.... good one Philo!


BTW Mad... you really didn't make a case for Kap being able to move the ball through the air on Sea. 156 yards doesn't support your assertion.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 06:53pm PT
BTW Mad... you really didn't make a case for Kap being able to move the ball through the air on Sea. 156 yards doesn't support your assertion.

Perhaps. But my point is that if Kap can move the ball 156 yards through the air, then Manning & co. is going to do far better than that.

Will it be enough? Who knows? All I've been saying is that the idea that Denver is going to get just destroyed is, well, "their demise is a bit overstated."

It's going to be a TOUGH game for both teams!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 20, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
well to be fair 156 is only the 4th worst game of his season.

And Henne did hang 235 on them, Schaub 355, Luck 229, Palmer 258, Ryan 172, Kap 175, Eli 156, Brees 309. so yeah... it can happen. A QB can throw for more than 200 against them.

As good as the Denver offense is this isn't a great match up for them. Kap threw Sherms way twice because he's that good. So consider that side of the field shut down. Seattle probably has the best depth on the DL you'll find. They rotate guys situationally and with a statue back there his OL better hold up or he'll be on his back a lot.

Seattle spied Kap because he's that dangerous. They won't do that one play with Manning. That means the LB gets to drop into coverage and that then means the best safety in the league gets to really be free back there.

And those aforementioned slant patterns. Bad idea if the donkey's want to keep their starting WR's in the game.

Defense wins and this seattle defense is turning into one of the best ever.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 20, 2014 - 08:20pm PT
Defense beats Offense.

This has been proven damn near every time. Seattle has one of the best, if not the best D in the league. Denver has hardly that.

Denver has the most potent offense in the league. Seattle ain't too far behind. Especially if Percy Harvin is cleared. You do the math.

I'd love to see Manning and Co. shred Sherman and the flying rats. Just don't think it will happen.
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Jan 20, 2014 - 09:14pm PT
Boy that Jim Harbaugh sure is a horse's ass isn't he? Act like you've been there dipsh*t

I've been pulling for the Seahawks since the Jim Zorn days, and would love to see them finally get it. One thing they do have is hunger, they've never won it. Will Pete Carroll come up with a better game plan than Bellichunk? Pretty likely.

Pretty piss poor coaching in that game, going for it on 4th down within field goal range is stupid. Especially only down 2 scores. Bad play calling in general. I do think Carroll is a better coach than Fox. Then again Manning is the real coach.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 20, 2014 - 11:18pm PT
Good news for the Donkeys: Knowshon has no broken ribs and probably will play.

Bad news for the Seachickens: Sherman needs to cover D. Thomas, Eric Decker and Julius Thomas, along with Knowshon---all at the same snap of the ball. Demarius Thomas is a BIG dude, and so is Julius Thomas. Prediction: there's gonna' be some hard hittin' goin' on!!
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Jan 20, 2014 - 11:32pm PT
Some strange form of rugby, at best.

Are you ready for some Hand-Egg !
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2014 - 11:43pm PT
Denver has the most potent offense in the league. Seattle ain't too far behind. Especially if Percy Harvin is cleared. You do the math.

I can't believe I just read that, care to compare stats?
It's not that Seattle "ain't too far behind" , its more like they can't be seen in the rear view mirror. To say that the Seahawks offense is anywhere near the Broncos is ludicrous.
You could more easily claim Denver's defense is only just slightly behind Seattle's.


You do the math.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2014 - 11:44pm PT
Defence doesn't win championships, teams do.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 21, 2014 - 12:02am PT
Whaddya mean? Them stadiums are fulla DeFences!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 21, 2014 - 12:33am PT
OMFG WTF plays the spell card. Ha hahah ahhaaahha. So I missed one. Did you not understand my post because of the spelling oversight? Or are you proud of your budding editorial skills? Everyone's got to have a hobby. :-)
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 21, 2014 - 12:56am PT
The real irony is that the grammatical errors in the "critique" (and subsequent post) are far more egregious than that spelling error.

Can't we all just get along?

Nooooo! In less than two weeks... SMASH-MOUTH football!!!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 21, 2014 - 03:05am PT
I was surprised that the Patriots were able to hold the Broncos to less than 30 points... given the numbers the Broncos put up during the season, and the fact that it was a good weather.

The Seahawks have a much better defense than the Patriots, and will probably get pressure on Manning without blitzing... they are also more physical than the Broncos.

I would guess the SB will be relatively low scoring, in much worse weather, and be competitive. The Seahawks O can probably score enough to beat the Broncos...

It will be interesting to see the outcome (I'll probably be climbing that day though... no dogs in this fight).
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 21, 2014 - 06:19am PT
fOR LOLLIE, if she ever watches American style.Why on earth would anyone bet against the Broncos in the Stupor Bowl?

Just layin' out the facts:
No experience vs. much experience.

Need not say more.
Osprey

climber
Jan 21, 2014 - 09:33am PT
Seattle hasn't faced a defense as bad as Denver's since week 11 vs Minnesota and still came out of the regular season with the 8th ranking offense.

But Denver has been out scoring its opponents at a rate unparalleled to any team in NFL history, right? And while Denver's fanbase has been enamored with Manning and the their fantasy all-star offense, they have not noticed the defensive efficiency of Seattle. Who, by the way, ranks second at 1.3 points per game behind Denver in average scoring margin during the 2013 season.

Seattle played a lot of ball control and didn't have to press themselves to score points. Looking at stats you have a #1 defense vs a #1 offense which should balance out somewhat. And then you have Seattle's #8 offense vs Denver's #22 defense which is where I believe the advantage weighs toward the Hawks.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 21, 2014 - 11:04am PT
To say that the Seahawks offense is anywhere near the Broncos is ludicrous.

Keep telling yourself that Philo,

Check post above and re-do the math. It's easy to look good against low ranking D's. Thanks for doing the homework Osprey.

edit: Again, I hope Denver crushes them.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 21, 2014 - 12:55pm PT
All I really want in the SB is a competent officiating crew that stays out of the limelight and makes judicious calls correctly. Let the players PLAY FOOTBALL...
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 21, 2014 - 04:08pm PT
Denver Passing offense: #1
Sea Passing defense: #1

Denver Rushing Offense: #15
Seattle Rushing Defense: #13

Seattle Passing Offense: #25
Denver Passing Defense: #27

Seattle Rushing Offense: #4
Denver Rushing Defense: #8

Seattle Points allowed: #1 14.4
Denver Points allowed: #21 24.9

Denver points: #1 37.9
Seattle points: #8 26.1

Strength of Schedule:
Seattle: #10 (51.6% win %)
Denver: #32 (43% win %)
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 21, 2014 - 06:59pm PT
The Bronco receivers better know this could easily be them.

Pothole number 1


Kam is the size of a linebacker but has the speed and moves of a DB. The enforcer at SS.

Those manning slant routes over the middle are a bad idea.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 21, 2014 - 07:06pm PT
Seattle is indeed dangerous. However, everything talked about here, the coaches all know. So, the question comes down to: Who can execute the plays that the coaches decide upon?

Manning and co. can certainly execute. So, comments like "_ is a bad idea," while true, are known to be true. And Manning and co. will execute different things.

Seattle is dangerous, but so is Denver.

:-)
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 21, 2014 - 07:08pm PT

that's gonna leave a mark
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 21, 2014 - 07:18pm PT

Can you believe that West Bromwich Albion tied Everton yesterday!?


madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 21, 2014 - 07:20pm PT
ROFL, Darwin
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 21, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
What was the over-under on that West Bromwich Albion / Everton game? One?
SicMic

climber
two miles from Eldorado
Jan 21, 2014 - 09:17pm PT
I hope to see a good game. Most SBs are snooze-fests that are over by halftime.

Does Denver have enough offense? I think so. Does Seattle have enough offense? Remains to be seen.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 21, 2014 - 09:45pm PT
Chaz; It was 1.1!

Madbolter1; Can Arsenal stay on top? (now you might have to rotfl a second time with that question)

philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 21, 2014 - 10:32pm PT
Hey WTF go hump someone else's leg.


Pinkos? WTF?
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 21, 2014 - 10:56pm PT
Chaz and Darwin both... pushing for the spew out my nose.

But I'm braced for ya now. Not gonna happen.

Got it?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 22, 2014 - 12:04am PT
Hank.... glad you had lunch with your friends and got set straight. This isn't a defense to mess with. In case your bro's missed anything allow me to share my perspective.

I've been a 'hawk fan since day one. It's my opinion that this is the best team they have ever assembled. I'll skip out on the yapping about the offense but let me point out why their defense is pot holes for every team they play.

It starts in the middle.
Earl Thomas III is considered by many to be the best FS in the game. I agree with that assessment. He runs a 4.37 40. His speed allows him to roam a little more and make up for it on the end. He missed the deflection on that last 9ers TD but not by much.

Next is Bobby Wagner - his tackle totals speak for itself.

In the middle on the D-line is Brandon Mebane and a number of hawks players feel he's the best nose tackle in the game.

Moving back to the secondary at SS is Kam Chancelor. He's a safety in a linebackers body. Cross the middle and don't duck quick enough and you'll be done for the day. He hits harder than any SS in the game. No debate.

Then there are the corners. I don't need to say anything about Sherman - his play speaks for itself. The strength here is their depth. Maxwell is starting but Thurmond and Lane easily could start as well (and would start of almost every team in the league). Big, fast, lanky and they play ball the same way. It's why the LOB is the best secondary in the league.

the outside linebackers are another strength. KJ Wright is big and fast and can shut down any TE in the league. Opposite side is Bruce Irvin. Originally drafted as a DE they converted him to WOLB and he's done very well. Malcolm Smith who filled in for KJ would start on most teams.

Then there is the D-line. It took them a while to figure things out. They depth here is why they simply cannot be worn down. On first down it's Mebane at NT, McDaniel next, Chris Clemons on one side for pass rushing just in case, and Red Bryant who use to be a tackle but got moved to end. He's huge and quick for his size. If it's a passing down Avril and Bennett sub in and then usually McDonald for Mebane.

Point being is they have the depth and skill set for any situation and that keeps them fresh. When the season started and they had all these guys on the DL they had to figure out how to play them in the best combo. They have done that.

You'll mostly see the base formation - 4/3/4. If the denver OL can't protect manning with a four man rush it's a long day.

A digression away from defense but one other strength for the 'hawks is special teams. Most teams don't play their starters. Seattle does for the most part. Watch out for that.

The weather is going to be a huge x-factor. Crappy weather favors the 'hawks.

By the way, the last time the Seattle Seahawks and the Denver Broncos played each other in the playoffs was Dec. 24th, 1983. Seattle won 31-7. Anyone remember? I do. I was at the game.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198312240sea.htm


Go 'Hawks
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 22, 2014 - 12:38am PT
By the way, the last time the Seattle Seahawks and the Denver Broncos played each other in the playoffs was Dec. 24th, 1983. Seattle won 31-7. Anyone remember?

Nature, I was right with you until the quoted line. I agreed with everything and thought it was a really, really prescient analysis. Had you stopped there, I would have been only impressed.

Why I mention the quoted line is that this is a common sort of argument floated in this thread, and I just don't get the relevance. The matchup in 1983 is much like comparing caveman tooling to Samurai swords. This whole line of argument just goes nowhere, and in this particular case actually undercuts the force of everything else you said.

So, I'll now proceed by ignoring that line, sticking strictly to the other great analysis you did, and simply say, "I'm more afeared for my Broncs than I was before. Hope nobody gets seriously messed up!"

Thanks for a really great walk-through!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 22, 2014 - 12:44am PT
Mad! I didn't write that for any kind of comparison. My goodness.. I'd be the worse hypocrite. The most ridiculous part of the entire 9er/hawk rivalry is the 9ers spraying about the rings they have. The past means nothing in that sense.

I only added that part because it's fun. I actually remember 30 years ago and I knew where to find that ticket from that game. And really... what did Krieg ever do after that. Geeezus.... even Elway did better by moving on to become a new car salesman ;)

Funny thing is there's not a mention anywhere out there about that game 30 years ago. I'm sure we'll get some of it as game time approaches.

But really.... 100 level in the kingdome for 18 bucks. That's kinda awesome! (actually my dad had a friend with season tickets so we didn't pay a dime for them).


Edit: next week on the Boulder Cruiser ride I'm dressing up.... As a full-blown seahawk fan.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 22, 2014 - 12:53am PT
Brian Billick on Fox Sports today rolled out the same arguments I posted here yesterday: The Denver receivers are all very physical as well as adept at catching the ball.

Julius Thomas and Jacob Tamme are some big, physically bruising tight ends who can hit as well as take some pounding. Welker and Decker are very fast and aren't easily intimidated. I look for lots of screen passes to Knowshon Moreno, and the big wide receiver Demarius Thomas won't be stopped by Sherman; he's too tall and is also a basketball player...er...was in college; he can certainly do the "jump ball" trick.

I don't think the game will be low scoring, but there will be lots of field goals as well.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 22, 2014 - 12:58am PT
If Demarius Thomas is covered by Sherman I hope that Manning throws that direction every time.


Vernon Davis is BIG:



How many concussions has Welker had in the last 2+ years?
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 22, 2014 - 01:00am PT
This is my "P.S."

I've bee a Broncos fan for as long as they've been around, but even more so after living across the street from Rulon "Mongo" Jones, #75 in the "Orange Crush. He was a great guy in the neighborhood and all the kiddos idolized him. I moved away to Wyoming because of my job, and he moved on to raising horses.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 22, 2014 - 02:01am PT
Points taken, Nature.

Well, it's certainly going to be smash-mouth football.

I'll be surprised if either steamrollers over the other. Gonna be a tough fight the whole time.

Actually that'll make the trophy all the sweeter for whichever team gets it. Both will have hoed a tough row!

I'm hoping for Manning, largely because you just gotta like him, and he's running out of time to have a season for the ages finish up as it really should!
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 22, 2014 - 02:31am PT
It was billed as a battle between two great gunslinging quarterbacks: an aging John Elway vs. young hot shot, Brett Favre.

Super Bowl 33 1998. Heavily favored Packers lose to the underdog Denver Broncos.

Different dynamics this time around but history has a way of repeating itself.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 22, 2014 - 02:32am PT
I'm hoping for Manning, largely because you just gotta like him

WTF? The dude flogs Buicks! He should be honest and flog Bentleys.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 22, 2014 - 02:47am PT
Sherman is gonna get his ass handed to him for being such a smack head,

as for bad ass hits?

Ronnie Lott use to hit 10 times a hard,

i had the Hawks winning the Cannabis Bowl back on page 3 but i am changing it to Denver as i can feel the tide draining out of Puget Sound, all that is left is toxic mud and brackish waters,
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 22, 2014 - 08:49am PT
coarse and brutal features, neanderthal,
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 22, 2014 - 09:02am PT
I'm hoping for Manning, largely because you just gotta like him.
WTF? The dude flogs Buicks! He should be honest and flog Bentleys.

Nobody says you gotta like Peyton. Just try to accept the beating, Reilly.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 22, 2014 - 09:57am PT
That hit on Talib was light.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 22, 2014 - 10:55am PT
Nature is right, my Mom hits harder than that, trust me.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 22, 2014 - 11:05am PT
It's easy to understand why many don't really know what the hawks bring to the table.

Holy crap! Demarius Thomas is a beast!

Baldwin and Welker are a lot alike. So seattle knows how to play against a guy like that. They get it all the time in practice. I'm not sure they've gone up against a Demarius Thomas. He's sorta like Bolden except younger and faster. Seattle does have the size to match up though.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 22, 2014 - 12:28pm PT
Nature I truly do appreciate your passionate belief in your home team. They are a damn good football team and I really like Wilson as a player and a person. The Seahawks should have a bright future ahead of them. I have been a Bronco fan since moving to Colorado in the mid sixties. Watching the then Desperate Donks play their heart out with inferior talent was one of the few things my old man and I had together. Ive watched them ever since. Band Wagon fans can spew what nonsense they will, it won't matter one whit to diehards. There's been many a year that I pleaded to the football gods to let the Broncos just beat the damn Raiders.
Years where a sweep of the Raiders meant a successful season regardless of the W/L record for the year. Now to see them play with such precision and pure domination is a treat beyond measure. I can't help but think they are a team of destiny and this is their year, Peyton's Year, Champ Bailey's year, Our year. But hey win or lose the big game doesn't really matter they are still Champions to me for the way they have persevered and prevailed. Besides they beat the Raiders. lol
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 22, 2014 - 12:54pm PT
Well said, Philo! That's heart!

And nobody can single Manning out for special condemnation for being a pitchman. All athletes that can do pitch products they would never use in a million years. Do you really think that Nastia Liuken regularly eats at subway? Hehe....

I actually find his Papa John's commercials far more ridiculous. But, then there's Aaron Rodgers and those discount daaable-check... ahhh... gag... uhhh... excuse me... had to cough up a quick hairball... commercials!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 22, 2014 - 01:23pm PT
Yer taaangs r in yer seat back welcome to grill claaass.


Can't take away from his football play because of his business ploys.
Athletes and celebrities make bank on endorsements all the time.
Doesn't mean I am going to run out and buy a Buick to pick up a Pappa Johns pizza.
Bob Hope shilled for Texacco fer gawds sake and it didn't make him any more or less funny just shrewd.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 22, 2014 - 02:56pm PT
To my mind, the best commercial of this football season is....

"What's that? A loofah?"

"No! It's a queeno!" ("Tastes like a dirty, old tree branch.")

I can't think of it without chuckling.
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Jan 22, 2014 - 10:04pm PT
Here is Dick Sherman getting punched in the face. :50 seconds.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Go Broncos!!!
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 22, 2014 - 10:23pm PT
Awwww.


From, http://seattletimes.com/html/picturethis/2022721817_shermandrawsdoublecoverage.html
Osprey

climber
Jan 22, 2014 - 10:53pm PT
Good defenses cause mistakes. The Denver/New England game didn't have any mistakes because both team's defenses suck. Both those teams are built toward offensive efficiency and are part of the pussyfication of football. If you don't like watching good smashmouth football then you will be better off playing fantacy football with your wife than witnessing a defense win a football game. LOB!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 23, 2014 - 12:28am PT
"pussyfication of football"

LOL... good one.

Well, good offenses cause mistakes also!

Witness Manning drawing the Chargers off-sides four times in quick succession. And that's just one example.

It's a two-sided game. Defense does not trump all. If that were the case, then why are the odds-makers (last I checked, and it does change as the game draweth nigh) at present slightly favoring Denver? They make a living getting such calls generally right.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1933198-super-bowl-odds-2014-latest-spread-and-prediction-for-seahawks-vs-broncos
weezy

climber
Jan 23, 2014 - 12:34am PT
all that is left is toxic mud and brackish waters

all is fair in love and war.


go hawks.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 23, 2014 - 12:57am PT
My moola is on the Seahawks

you have glue and rubber. moola?

BTW... this is embarrassing...



as for bad ass hits?

Ronnie Lott use to hit 10 times a hard,

Ronnie Lott use to play for the 49ers. Neither of which are playing in the Super Bowl this year.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 23, 2014 - 07:54am PT
Nature you may want to reconsider riding around in your Seahawks regallia. You may end up sleeping with the fishes. lol
Osprey

climber
Jan 23, 2014 - 08:09am PT
Just to recap the NFC Championship game.
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Jan 23, 2014 - 10:04am PT
From the wayback machine--Steve Largent shows the world (and the Broncos) how to a be a receiver when not catching a football....



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Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 23, 2014 - 10:28am PT
Largent was The Man - inch for inch and pound for pound the best receiver EVAH!
And a class act the whole way, especially off the field.
Osprey

climber
Jan 23, 2014 - 11:15pm PT
About 2.5 years ago I remember watching an aging Payton Manning on the NFL network hopping across the country looking for an owner to put a high price on him like some sort of an Antiques Roadshow. I think it is time to show him that this is...
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 23, 2014 - 11:19pm PT
"Ronnie Lott use to hit 10 times a hard"



Ronnie Lott hit that hard in practice. Ask the guys who played with him at Eisenhower High.
Osprey

climber
Jan 24, 2014 - 12:22am PT
Hankster, you old coot. Is the pace breaking your hanky panky heart? Football will be over soon.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 24, 2014 - 12:38am PT
...looking for an owner to put a high price on him like some sort of an Antiques Roadshow.

Such a flagrantly ridiculous comment, given this history-making season, that I call TROLL!

Pathetic
Osprey

climber
Jan 24, 2014 - 12:50am PT
It really did remind me of Antiques Roadshow. Christ, the guy was 36 years old at the time.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 24, 2014 - 02:04am PT
When I was 36, I could run from Happy Isles to the top of Half Dome and back in just under four hours. Depending on your history, genetics, and conditioning, even late-30s is FAR from "antique."

And hasn't he proved as much this year? I mean, "for Christ's sake," as you say, what would it take???

Regardless of team comparisons, bagging on Manning isn't going to get any traction. Even his peers rate him (by almost four times as much as the next-closest contender) as the most respected player in the NFL, as well as the player that they would chose as their number one player upon which to build a brand new team.

You'll be taken (a tiny bit) more seriously if you turn your attention elsewhere.
Osprey

climber
Jan 24, 2014 - 08:54am PT
I see the humorous “Antiques Roadshow” cheap shot was understandably not taken well by Broncos fans. But is there actually some validity to the comment? While it has been documented that people run marathons well into their 90’s (Francics Albaugh is running Ultras at age 90), only 8 QB’s in the history of the NFL have played into their 40’s. Besides the most recent example (Brett Favre) all have been as backups, clipboard holders on the sidelines, only playing scrap minutes and as injury replacements. Football is a different beast than running. So at his age Manning is an antique on the field. Several articles as of late have mentioned he may retire after the season regardless of the outcome of SB48. He no longer throws deep balls with the tight spiral of his youth. The nerve damage he suffered from the herniated disk that was pressing up against his nerve has not been fully repaired through the four neck surgeries he had in 2011. This has affected his grip on the ball and now several NFL analysts are reporting a distinct wobble in his throws. He walks with his shoulders slumped. He doesn’t possess the arm strength he had as an NFL newbie. It is visible from even a cursory glance at the TV screen. As per his contract, doctors will determine his eligibility next season through medical evaluation of his neck this March. He is at the point where his god given genetics which use to be a football strength is becoming a liability and his continued playing time won’t be a football decision but a medical one.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 24, 2014 - 09:49am PT
^^^ Well that explains why he had his worst year ever. Except he didn't.
I'm sure Peyton can decide for himself when he will retire regardless of what the babbling heads of sports blogs think or say.

I have been immensely amused by all the naysayers predictions about Peyton Manning. The fact that he keeps proving them all wrong has been one of the best parts his last two NFL seasons for me.
Osprey

climber
Jan 24, 2014 - 10:09am PT
Wrong Philo
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyton-manning-retire-offseason-neck-injury-denver-broncos-super-bowl-win-lose-011214
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 24, 2014 - 11:20am PT
I'm not worried about swimming with the fishes (besides, my twelfth man flag will be flying off the back of the sushi cart).

IF I was in Denver it might be a different story but it's Boulder...


ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Jan 24, 2014 - 11:32am PT
^^^^
Yep, the way you've got that Seahawk decked out in boa feathers, it definitely looks like a "prancer", probably go over fine in Boulder.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 24, 2014 - 12:36pm PT
Wrong Osprey. The post season exam was a stipulation in his contract. He is under NO obligation to retire after this year. He has agreed that if the Docs say no go then he will hang up his cleats. But if they give him the go ahead then WHY should he retire? He has the best team he has ever played on, an executive manager in Elway who is shrewdly positioning the Broncos for the future and he is playing lights out! By far the best football of his illustrious 16 year career. The babbling heads of sports media and their mouth breathing knuckle dragging fan base need something to talk about. This post season appointment with the docs is a formality that has been a non story since halfway through the 2012 season when he showed the world that you should never count an old dog out. Have you not noticed he broke a couple of records this year?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 24, 2014 - 12:40pm PT

"The weather isn't going to decide the game."--Eli
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 24, 2014 - 12:46pm PT
Peyton Manning did complete 39 passes for 397 yards and four touchdowns against Tennessee last month when the temperature at kickoff in Denver was 18 degrees.

I guess he didn't get the "Peyton can't play in cold weather" memo.
It was probably sent via the same fax machine that ruined Elvis Dumerville's career.
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Jan 24, 2014 - 12:46pm PT
If there's anyone in the world who is completely irrelevant right now it's Eli Manning

It's cute they're trying to give him some of the limelight and all but really it's just scraps

You're going to tell him about the secrets of the wind? lol I'm not sure I'd be taking advice from Mr. INT.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jan 24, 2014 - 12:50pm PT

IF I was in Denver it might be a different story but it's Boulder...

Yep, one thing you can count on with pro sports events in Boulder--usually more people rooting for the non-Colorado team.

I was skeptical of bringing in Manning, but what can you say, I was wrong.
He may be "old" from an NFL perspective, but how old was Smell-way was when he won his two Stupid Bowls.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 24, 2014 - 12:51pm PT
Remember when the "experts" were saying Peyton can't play with a glove on his hand?
Well news flash he is 10 & 3 wearing a glove for Denver.
You Seahawk fans are amusing not quite as pathetic as Patsy fans but you are working at it.

Nature at least you will be SheHawk Prancing in Liberalland Boulder.
Some kid in Seattle got fired for wearing a Broncos jersey to work.

philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 24, 2014 - 01:20pm PT


nuff said
scaredycat

Trad climber
Berkeley,CA
Jan 24, 2014 - 01:34pm PT

Hey Philo,

I guess pot is pretty easy to get now in Colorado?
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 24, 2014 - 01:42pm PT
Osprey, I don't think that the Manning subject is just about "Denver fans." Across the NFL and the fan-base, there is tremendous respect for Peyton. He is BY FAR the most respected player in the NFL.

Had your comments been something like, "I was amazed to see him try to come back at his age, but he apparently knew what he was doing," or some such, you would not have gotten a reaction, certainly not from me.

Look, there are plenty of goofballs to diss on throughout the NFL. Peyton is one of the good guys. So this is a case of, "If you can't say something nice...."

I won't even complain if you diss on the Broncos. Plenty of people here have called them basically pantywaists that won't stand up to the way-awesome Hawks. Fine, NP. Time will tell, and they may well be right.

Another point is that how this SB turns out will reveal something about the characters of the people on this thread. We'll see the sore losers and the graceless winners. We'll also see gracious losers and graceful winners.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 24, 2014 - 01:54pm PT
Yeah all in all even if he wins the SB and is awarded the SB MVP there will still be detractors out there. I mean really this season has all ready been a failure to the bandwagoneers. I mean he didn't go undefeated, he let is old team get him all teary eyed so he'd lose to that upstart Luck, he didn't run for as many touchdowns as he threw for and oh yeah he didn't lay down at mid field and birth the baby jesus. What a slacker.



You know I got to say that perusing the sport blogs recently I have come to the realization that StuporTopo politurd threads are actually a well spring of intellectualism by comparison.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 24, 2014 - 02:10pm PT
LOL Hank. Real LOL.


Kiszla: Broncos' Champ Bailey is far from the "I'm finished" line


Read more: Kiszla: Broncos' Champ Bailey is far from the "I'm finished" line - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/kiszla/ci_24882260/mark-kiszla-broncos-champ-bailey-not-finished#ixzz2rLR4hrRL
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http://www.denverpost.com/kiszla/ci_24882260/mark-kiszla-broncos-champ-bailey-not-finished

Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey knows what people think: He's washed up. Old. Broken down. A step slow. A 12-time Pro Bowler reduced to a defensive liability.

"I've listened to the radio. I've read the newspaper. And I've heard all these things: 'He's done. He's lost a step. Yada, yada, yada,' " Bailey told me Thursday. "It's funny. Because those people don't know me, they don't understand me, and they don't know what it takes to play in the NFL. So I took it all in stride. But it's all motivation. I used every little thing I heard as motivation. Did I ever think I was done? Hell, no."

For 14 NFL seasons, Bailey was the league's premier shut-down corner. He threw a blanket on the best receivers in football with the flair of a matador, and made his artistry look effortless.


Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey. (Joe Amon, The Denver Post)
Then something funny happened to Bailey this year. The bull got Champ. His body betrayed him. And it hurt.

Check that. For Bailey, his 15th NFL season hasn't been the least bit funny.

"I'm not going to cry about it. It was bad. But I feel good now, and I'm ready to go," Bailey said. "A lot of my motivation for getting back to playing had nothing to do with anybody around me. It was just me. It's just the way I am. You're not going to tell me I can't do something."

At age 35, Bailey got torched deep by Father Time. During the team's second game of the preseason, the turf in Seattle bit Bailey in the foot. It was a Lisfranc sprain, which causes pain in the arch with every step a man takes. It's an injury that has been cursed for centuries, all the way back to a time when calvary men in Napoleon's army suffered the curse of Lisfranc, the prescribed remedy was amputation.

"I had a million thoughts go through my head with this injury. And I've never had to deal with something like this. This was definitely my toughest challenge of my career. I wanted to see if I could overcome it," Bailey said.

In the most obvious of ways, this is the worst football season in Bailey's brilliant NFL career. He couldn't get on the field. In 16 regular-season games, Bailey made only 14 tackles. Reduced to a footnote on Denver's 13-3 record, he lost his starting job at outside cornerback, a position built on equal parts swagger and skill.

In a more subtle way, however, this season reveals why Canton, Ohio, eagerly awaits the honor of swinging wide the front door to welcome Bailey's entrance into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

From fighting the betrayal of an aching body to suffering the indignity of standing on the sideline in his uniform at Kansas City as the Denver defense hung on for a 35-28 victory against the Chiefs, there were ample reasons for Bailey to cry tears of self-pity. But the best defensive player in franchise history refused to let any of us see him sweat.

The grace with which Bailey has stared down his athletic mortality is the very definition of mental toughness and a testament to his professionalism.

"It hasn't been easy," Bailey said. "I was ticked. I was frustrated. But I live with it. So I'm going to make the best of it."

When San Diego beat Denver 27-20 on Dec. 12, Bailey didn't play a down. But, to the credit of the coaches and the veteran cornerback, the Broncos have figured out a way to do right by Bailey and improve the team's maligned defense at the same time.

Bailey has moved inside to nickel back, reducing the number of snaps he plays in a game, while leaving the task of running stride for stride with receivers on the outside to Chris Harris Jr. and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie in a Denver secondary that extensively employs man-to-man coverage.

"I've always been a mainstay out there on the field, but it's not like that now. I accept it," Bailey said. "I'm not going to sit here and predict what's going to happen next year. But I expect to start every year."

Early in 2011, shortly after John Elway returned to the Broncos as vice president of football operations, Bailey could have left the team. He decided to stay. Loyalty in pro sport? It's rare. But it still exists.

"I could have run out of here. I was a free agent," Bailey said. "But I wanted to be here in Denver. And Elway wanted me to be here. I wanted to be a part of what Elway started with this team. I didn't see this guy touching anything and being a loser. He hasn't lost in football."

At age 35, Bailey knows the end to his career is inevitable. But he's not done yet. Far from it.

For starters, there's a Super Bowl to win.

Mark Kiszla: mkiszla@denverpost.com or twitter.com/markkiszla



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fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Jan 24, 2014 - 03:06pm PT
lol @ 'Payton' if that doesn't just scream bandwagon fan...

It's really funny when one team's fans try to claim moral superiority

They're all professional athletes I'm sure 99% of them are equally classy

Some pro athlete ran his mouth on TV about another pro athlete that runs his own mouth constantly

Professional sh*t talkers, all of them. And America pretends to be outraged lolz
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Jan 24, 2014 - 03:46pm PT
Yeah anyway the whole story is here

Basically Sherman tried to congratulate Crabtree and got shoved in the face for his trouble
Osprey

climber
Jan 24, 2014 - 03:56pm PT
Philo. That's what I said.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 24, 2014 - 04:24pm PT
From what I've read he really does sound like a great guy.
He just got caught rippin' a guy a new one with some eeeeemotional smack talk.
I hold the network responsible for shoving the mike in his face seconds after the win.
Give the man some air please.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 24, 2014 - 04:40pm PT
Jeez compared to the smack I see on these forums that guy was an amateur sh#t talker.

I have no clue who is gunna win this game. Interesting matchup, normally I'd pick the best balanced team which is Seattle.. normally defense wins championships, but the NFL rules have changed to favor offense and Denvers is an amazing offense.

It's a great matchup and I hope it's a great game..

Been a fan of Manning since he played for the Vols. I want him to win and kick ass, I think he's the best QB ever, which folks can argue I'm sure. Up to him to prove it this SB.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 24, 2014 - 04:43pm PT
Some kid in Seattle got fired for wearing a Broncos jersey to work.

not exactly true, philo. the notice was to wear your team jersey. on that day he came in with a Thomas jersey on and his boss didn't approve of his work attire and sent him home to change. The kid didn't return to work and was subsequently relieved of his duties at the establishment.

I've never dissed denver and wouldn't. I am certain that this is the best and toughest team they will play this season. I'm also not going to overlook the strength of schedule.

I hold the network responsible for shoving the mike in his face seconds after the win.
Give the man some air please.

Exactly.

Sherman came out of Compton finishing second in his high school class. He went to Stanford for four years and finished the last year working on his masters. I believe he finished in the top 5% of his class. His coach at Standford did not have positive things to say about him coming out for the draft. He fell to 5th round. He will never forget about that. His coach was Harbaugh.

He also has a foundation - http://www.facebook.com/ShermanBlanketCoverage

Personally... I think he's the best corner in the league. but what does that really mean anyway. I do know that he can be left on an island and get the job done.
go-B

climber
1 Corinthians 8:6
Jan 24, 2014 - 05:46pm PT

Broncos Return To Practice (MAKES PERFECT!) In Frigid Temps...

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/01/23/broncos-return-to-practice-in-frigid-temps/
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 25, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
On the Thursday night Cruiser Ride I'll be making Bronco Sashimi. Seems fitting because by the end of the game the Broncos loss will leave a whole lot of fans feeling very RAW.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 25, 2014 - 08:24pm PT
Denver will practice at altitude,

Seamonkeys practice at sea level in Seattle,

you do the math,

coming down the hill to NYC will be like a shot of EPO,
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 25, 2014 - 10:14pm PT
Recorded commercial by record-setting Broncos QBs. [Click to View YouTube Video]
Back to back.
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Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 25, 2014 - 10:16pm PT
Latest on Yardbarker: Demaryius Thomas says he really is looking forward to playing against Sherman, and find out who's any good. That will be a memorable matchup!
GO DONKEYS...er...BRONCOS!!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 25, 2014 - 10:19pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 25, 2014 - 10:30pm PT
I've been to Omaha.

I would never shout that at anybody I wasn't trying to scare or piss off.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 25, 2014 - 10:36pm PT
Nature, sushi? Really? They're dead meat, if only just.
MisterE

climber
Jan 25, 2014 - 11:08pm PT
I gotta say, I am pretty excited about a Superbowl for the first time in years!

I'm with Nature - a Hawks fan.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 25, 2014 - 11:43pm PT
Nature-

I'm getting ready to grind down the end on a piece of rebar to make a Seahawk spit. They're big enuf, but are they fit to eat or are they just fulla schitt!

;)

P.S. I just can't help myself when the Donkeys are involved. See ya' at a Boulder HH whenever we have another one!
Osprey

climber
Jan 26, 2014 - 12:07am PT
scaredycat

Trad climber
Berkeley,CA
Jan 26, 2014 - 02:19am PT
too bad the Broncos and their fans are such cheaters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Game

I've never forgiven them for that.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 26, 2014 - 07:12am PT
That's too funny scaredycat. An incident that happened nearly 30 years ago that had nothing to do with the team has you brand them "cheaters".

FYI that snowball incident was taken very seriously and has never happened again. Broncos fans were shamed on National Television for their desperate behavior in that game.

So all these years later and you can't let that go.
Speaking of real cheaters how bout them Patsies? apparently they can't win the big games without resorting to cheating. But you probably still think BelliCheat is the greatest NFL coach ever.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 26, 2014 - 10:24am PT


Seahawks, I hear they taste like chicken.
Osprey

climber
Jan 26, 2014 - 11:42am PT
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 26, 2014 - 12:02pm PT
Wholly Bucking Broncos, that was cutting below the belt. :-)
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 26, 2014 - 02:02pm PT
Snowballing is illegal in the bible belt...
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 26, 2014 - 02:11pm PT
Snowballing should be illegal everywhere. You can put an eye out with one of those things.
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Jan 26, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
Keep them snowballs out of the freezer...



Pro-Bowl tonight--will the new "draft" format keep anybody tuned in past the First quarter???
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 26, 2014 - 07:55pm PT
then it's hysterical!!!

THAT was hysterical!!!

Ho-hum-bowl. Won't watch any of it.... Actually probably already missed it. Don't even know or care.

It's worse than wrestling for being nothing but an "exhibition match." Something's gotta hang on a game for me to care about it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 26, 2014 - 08:34pm PT
One more week of unadulterated self-deluded bliss for the Donkeys.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 26, 2014 - 08:36pm PT
I watched about five seconds of the Pro Bowl.

Long enough to hear Al Michaels ( my least favorite broadcaster - in any sport ) say "Lets look at the Defense on the Sanders Team". That was enough.

I wish I had been tuned in when they did the shark jumping. That would have been worth watching.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 26, 2014 - 08:55pm PT
on the Sanders Team

Yeah, especially from him, that would have been more than enough. A program featuring the artistry of fingernails on chalkboards would be better.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 27, 2014 - 12:37am PT
Peyton Manning of the Clan Manning there can be only one.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 27, 2014 - 05:56pm PT
GO



Hurry, hurry.


Osprey

climber
Jan 27, 2014 - 10:59pm PT
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Jan 27, 2014 - 11:32pm PT
I've never forgiven them for that.

Yeah but throwing food on Navarro Bowman as he was carted off with a ruined knee was totally legit right. Pure class.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 27, 2014 - 11:43pm PT
^^^ plus one.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 27, 2014 - 11:52pm PT
you shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you,

humans are so stoopid,



no wait, i'm not warner,
Osprey

climber
Jan 28, 2014 - 12:03am PT
It was terrible. That's as low as it gets.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 28, 2014 - 12:16am PT


KP and philo, I hadn't heard that about Bowman and the fans, and for now I don't believe it without further evidence. Regardless of allegiance I'm sure we were all horrified by that injury and appalled by the terrible call. Even as a Hawks fan, I was relieved when the Beast fumbled it right back. OK, also glad that the Niners didn't come back and score with it.

Regardless of what scardycat saw, I saw the snowball hit in front of Wersching on TV way back in the day.

Hey, but on a really worrisome note, can Everton even eke a tie out of Liverpool tomorrow?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 28, 2014 - 12:23am PT
Darwin... Food was thrown on Bowman as he was going into the tunnel. I saw the video. To me it looked like one person threw a handful of small candies of some sort. Maybe 20-30 pieces.

To blame it on the fans (plural) would be wrong. I think it's pretty clear that it was one person. One person with zero class.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 28, 2014 - 01:19am PT
Joe is from Denver. He lives with Irene, who's in a wheel, and he's going to Denver with his sister, from Modesto.

I invited Irene to go to Reinero's Trophy Room/Italian Restaurant tonight to see the Super Bowl, since they have such a screwed game plan, just because they cant't take her in the Toyota with them because of the wheel..

Irene's reply, a resounding, "Heckyeah?! Really, Mouse?"

It made my day as much as a Super Bowl win for the Gradisharites.



Ronnie Lott was hot, but Randy was horny.
Irene is hot, but there was a serious incident of a knife going to a gunfight in the Hotel Tioga this afternoon, involving the 7th Commandment. We assessed what we were contemplating and decided that God might approve if we wore orange.

It's nice to have great neigh-bors.



Denver Broncos Championship History

Post Season Play Championships

League Championships 2 - 1997 (Super Bowl), 1998 (Super Bowl
)
Conference Championships 6 - 1977 (AFC), 1986 (AFC), 1987 (AFC), 1989 (AFC), 1997 (AFC), 1998 (AFC)

Division Championships 9 - 1977 (AFC West), 1978 (AFC West), 1984 (AFC West), 1986 (AFC West), 1987 (AFC West), 1989 (AFC West), 1991 (AFC West), 1996 (AFC West), 1998 (AFC West)

Playoff Appearances 16 - 1977, 1978, 1979, 1983, 1984, 1986, 1987, 1989, 1991, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2004
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 28, 2014 - 01:20am PT
I do stand corrected, from other sources, too, nature. Crushed. I hope Bowamn heals up in any case. As I said in the other thread, have fun skiing tomorrow.

As Werner might say (has said?): Football is stopid!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 28, 2014 - 01:30am PT
WBraun doesn't know beeswax about anything but electronix, clinbing, zen, cats, living in vans, so WTF doo wee care what he thinks about FOOD BALL?
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 30, 2014 - 11:28am PT
Giddy up bump.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 30, 2014 - 11:34am PT
Birds eating raw donkey meat like it's sashimi bump
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 30, 2014 - 11:36am PT
Seahawks taste nothing like chicken, gotta say that.

Good for gourmet wings, though.

Gonna leave a pile of wing bones for the Panthers and Lions to chew on.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 30, 2014 - 01:28pm PT
The Donkey calendar is made up of a bunch of women in eskimo outfits. Go figure, right? (NTTIAWWT)
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 30, 2014 - 02:53pm PT
Yeah but how good was the Deion Sanders interview with Marshawn, boss? Good questions and he knew when to cut it off.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 31, 2014 - 10:43pm PT
Boeing capitalizes on football fever...

McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jan 31, 2014 - 10:55pm PT
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 31, 2014 - 11:02pm PT
the curtains do not match the drapes on girl #3,
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 31, 2014 - 11:39pm PT
Okay...okay

What you've been waiting for:

Broncos by a TD and field goal.

Now.

Go place your bets.

Get outta here.

Don't make me repeat this.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 31, 2014 - 11:54pm PT
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/GovHickenlooper/CBON/1251650094013


Gov. Hickenlooper renames Colorado's 14ers to honor the Denver Broncos


DENVER — Wednesday, Jan. 29, 2014 — Gov. John Hickenlooper today announced a proclamation that temporarily renames Colorado’s tallest majestic mountain peaks -- also known as 14ers -- after individual active players on the Denver Broncos football team. The mountains will go by their new names for one day only -- on Super Bowl Sunday.

The full text of the proclamation:
WHEREAS, the State of Colorado is confident that the Denver Broncos will beat the Seattle Seahawks in Super Bowl XLVIII; and

WHEREAS, the Denver Broncos gave Coloradans a lot to be proud of this season, including becoming the first team in NFL history to score more than 600 points in a single season and winning the AFC Championship; and

WHEREAS, Seattle makes some, well, OK beer; and

WHEREAS, the Seahawks have a 12th man, whatever, while the Denver Broncos have the greatest fans -- men, women and children -- in pro sports; and

WHEREAS, we are proud of the majestic mountains in Colorado, which is home to 53 14ers – the same number of players on the Denver Broncos’ active roster; and

WHEREAS, Peyton Manning bears a symbolic resemblance to Mount Elbert, the tallest 14er in Colorado, because he stands tall as an extraordinary leader of the Broncos; and

WHEREAS, Matt Prater kicks the football long – an NFL record 64 yards long – and could be compared to Longs Peak; and

WHEREAS, the Broncos offensive line stands together, like our Collegiate Peaks, rooted into the earth and preventing anyone from getting to Peyton Manning; and

WHEREAS, there are many other connections between other 14ers and players as referenced below;

Therefore, I, John W. Hickenlooper, Governor of the State of Colorado, do hereby hurry up and proclaim Sunday, February 2, 2014,

DENVER BRONCOS-MANIA DAY

Here is the full list of mountains (ranked by size) and the active players the peaks are being renamed for:

Mt. Elbert Peyton Manning.
Mt. Massive Terrance Knighton - AKA POT ROAST.
Mt. Harvard Zane Beadles - He, along with others on the offensive line, are as formidable as the line of Collegiate Peaks.
Blanca Peak Mitch Unrein - He blocks and tackles.
La Plata Peak Jacob Tamme - Just as this is an impressive peak among the Collegiate Peaks, this tight end is an impressive addition to the offense.
Uncompahgre Peak Steven Johnson - His defense is straight forward and uncomplicated.
Crestone Peak Steve Vallos - Like this peak, which is surrounded by other looming 14ers, this center is the rock of impressive offensive lines.
Mt. Lincoln Winston Justice - His name itself, and his humanitarian work in Uganda and Haiti, reflect the name of this majestic peak.
Grays Peak Eric Decker - Grays and Torreys are right next to each other, like the dynamic duo of Decker and Thomas.
Mt. Antero Malik Jackson - This defensive end watches everyone's back.
Torreys Peak Demaryius Thomas
Castle Peak Duke Ihenacho - Because only a duke could vanquish a castle-like offense.
Quandary Peak Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - His coverage proves to be a quandary for opposing quarterbacks.
Mt. Evans Nate Irving - This linebacker forms an imposing backdrop to opponents just like this peak does to Denver.
Longs Peak Matt Prater - He kicks ‘em long (set an NFL record with a 64-yard field goal vs. Tennessee).
Mt. Wilson Shaun Phillips - Leads the Broncos in sacks this year and will be taking down Russell Wilson.
Mt. Shavano Marquice Cole
Mt. Belford Andre Caldwell - Like this peak’s inclusion with other Collegiate Peaks, he joins an imposing offense.
Crestone Needle Brock Osweiler - At 6 feet, 8 inches', he makes all opponents appear as thin as this 14er.
Mt. Princeton Manny Ramirez.
Mt. Yale Louis Vasquez.
Mt. Bross Jeremy Mincey.
Kit Carson Peak Aaron Brewer - His long snaps find their path just as Kit Carson found paths through the frontier.
Maroon Peak Mike Adams - He maroons opponents due to his tackling prowess (posted a game-high nine tackles and intercepted a pass that led to a Broncos touchdown in Houston).
Tabeguache Peak Chris Kuper.
Mt. Oxford Chris Clark.
Mt. Sneffels Zac Dysert - In the shadow of Manning, the QB may be sniffling for not playing, but is tops nonetheless.
Mt. Democrat Tony Carter - Working on a second degree in political science.
Capitol Peak Champ Bailey - Rated the most difficult peak on 14ers.com.
Pikes Peak Joel Dressen - A Colorado Mountain for a Colorado State University Ram and only player on the roster to graduate from a Colorado university.
Snowmass Mountain Wesley Woodyard.
Mt. Eolus Sione Fua - An eloquent name, like this peak.
Windom Peak Ronnie Hillman - This runninng back runs like the wind.
Challenger Point Montee Ball - He was a challenger for the Heisman Trophy in 2011.
Mt. Columbia Orlando Franklin.
Missouri Mountain Sylvester Williams - He was born in Missouri.
Humboldt Peak Knowshon Moreno - He "bolts" off the line (Ranked fifth in the NFL in scrimmage yards at 1,586) and tied for fifth with 13 scrimmage touchdowns in 2013. Became the first player in franchise history to record 1,000 rushing yards and 500 receiving yards in a single season in 2013.
Mt. Bierstadt Robert Ayers - Just like the way that Ayers makes tackling look easy, this peak is one of the easiest peaks to summit.
Sunlight Peak Omar Bolden - He is known for his power of positive thinking and is not blinded by any sunshine in his tackling prowess.
Handies Peak Quentin Jammer - This defensive player is known for giving a hand to his teammates and those in need through his Jammer Family Foundation helping foster teens.
Culebra Peak Michael Huff.
Ellingwood Point Britton Colquitt - He would be able to land a punt on this point.
Mt. Lindsey Paris Lenon.
Little Bear Peak Trindon Holliday - He’s 5 foot, 5 inches, but is as tough as they come.
Mt. Sherman Wes Welker - Let’s see Richard Sherman cover Wes. Right, good luck with that.
Redcloud Peak Virgil Green.
Pyramid Peak Danny Trevathan - Like the Pyramids of Giza, Danny Trevathan's defense is a wonder of the world. He posted a team high 129 tackles, beating his next closest teammate by 44 and is 11th best in the league.
Wilson Peak Brandon Marshall.
Wetterhorn Peak Vinston Painter.
San Luis Peak Kayvon Webster.
Mt. of the Holy Cross David Bruton - His alma mater is Notre Dame.
Huron Peak C.J. Anderson - Another impressive peak included in the Collegiate Peaks, he is a fine addition to the offense.
Sunshine Peak Julius Thomas - because he always makes himself available to find the sunshine through the defenders and make the catch.

philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 1, 2014 - 04:26pm PT
Bronco bump.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 1, 2014 - 04:40pm PT
Post #911

That's the same number Seahawk fans should program into the speed dialers of their smartphones before Super Bronco Bowl Sunday. They will need it 'cause they are gunna feel robbed.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2014 - 05:27pm PT
Philo, I hope you don't run out of elixir before game time.

Ghost, any truth to the rumours that the 747 will do a victory barrel roll over the parade?
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 1, 2014 - 05:50pm PT
any truth to the rumours that the 747 will do a victory barrel roll over the parade?

Yeah, right.

I think the only place that bird is headed in the near future is to storage at MWH. Brand-new 747-8F that's never flown in commercial service.
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Feb 1, 2014 - 06:16pm PT
It's the year of the Horse, so yah know the Broncos have that going for them.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2331196/Gong-Xi-Fa-Cai-Year-of-the-Horse

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2014 - 06:17pm PT
Alas, hope springs eternal. Tightbutt execs know damn well a heavily loaded landing is
more stressful than a barrel roll. And what cachet that hull number would have!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 1, 2014 - 09:24pm PT
At Eldora today. I caught a lot of sh#t. It was awesome!



Go 'Hawks!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 1, 2014 - 11:42pm PT
Caught a lot of sh#t eh. Was it bird sh#t?
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Feb 2, 2014 - 12:52am PT
No, it was horse sh!t!!!!!

Go 'Hawks
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 2, 2014 - 02:37pm PT
Seahawks.
Seahawks run.
Seahawks run into Orange wall.
Seahawks fall down.
Seahawks go boom.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 02:45pm PT
Seahawks go boom.

Yes, Philo, they will,




IN YO FACE!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Feb 2, 2014 - 02:48pm PT
Now we test the old cliche, "Defense wins championships"


I hope not. perhaps things have changed with the all the new offense preferred rules.

Overall the Seahawks are a better team. Good offense,incredible defense great kicking, But that Bronco's offense is ridiculously good. Good enough today?

If I were the Hawks I'd sell my soul to get hits on Manning. A good plan takes away the best weapon.

I hope the officiating is good.
Osprey

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 02:49pm PT
go-B

climber
1 Corinthians 8:6
Feb 2, 2014 - 03:25pm PT


GO BRONCOS!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 2, 2014 - 03:34pm PT
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Feb 2, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
it's gonna be BGL and company

(Beak Giving Lips = John Elway)

KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Feb 2, 2014 - 04:02pm PT


You be the judge....
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 2, 2014 - 04:03pm PT
Forecast for the SuperBowl,
Lots of Thunder in MetLife stadium.




GO BRONCOS!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 2, 2014 - 04:14pm PT
Side bets?


I'll bet it's sometime in the second quarter when one of the usual posters on here chimes in and reminds us all that he went climbing today and had the place to himself.

mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Feb 2, 2014 - 04:19pm PT
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Feb 2, 2014 - 04:19pm PT
lol

Won't be me Chaz, I will have the remote control and a 750ml of cold belgian ale all to myself though.
Osprey

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 04:27pm PT
salad

Big Wall climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 04:33pm PT
I teased Seattle and the Under. So I have Seattle +9, under 54.

Also a myriad of ptop bets: orange Gatorade, 'Omaha' being said under 27.5 times, tails on the toss, Renee will be wearing gloves when she sings, over 2:25 on the national anthem... that's all I can remember at the moment.
Osprey

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 04:46pm PT
Just a little known fact. Peyton was named the NFL MVP last night and since 2001 NFL MVPs are 0-5 when reaching the Super Bowl:

2001-Kurt Warner (lost to Patriots SB36)
2002-Rich Gannon (lost to Bucks SB36)
2005-Shaun Alexander (lost to Steelers SB40)
2007-Tom Brady (lost to Giants SB42)
2009-Peyton Manning (lost to saints SB44)
2010-Tom Brady (lost to Giants SB45)

At least he still has Papa Johns, who by the way found good use of that ridiculous red spot on his forehead.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 2, 2014 - 04:47pm PT
I'd take seattle and 9 in a heart beat.

obama predicts score will be 24-21

Sorry Mr. President. I'm taking the over.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 04:50pm PT
obama predicts score will be 24-21

Glad they put Obama on pre-game ---it allowed millions of people to race to the store for extra beer and chips.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 2, 2014 - 05:24pm PT
Somewhere today, money was won and lost gambling on the outcome of The Puppy Bowl.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 05:30pm PT
Just went to the store - 2 hours before kickoff. Geezus, I've seen more
civil demolition derbies. Those wimmen were crazed! I stayed away from
the avocado section.
WBraun

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 05:32pm PT
The final score of today's game is already known.

Wait for it when it's over and you'll see .....
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 2, 2014 - 05:38pm PT
Quacking off. Hurry hurry.


In honor of the "Super Bowl" between the two legal pot states shouldn't kick off be at 4:20?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 2, 2014 - 06:35pm PT
Every coach I ever had, no matter the sport, preached KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE BALL.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 2, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
How many seals did Joe Namath club for that coat?

And it is 49 degrees!
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 06:39pm PT
I'm not really a big pro sports fan, I didn't even know who was playing till a week ago.

But, the stuper bowl is fun to watch.

Shall we say that was a less than auspicious start for denver...
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Feb 2, 2014 - 06:46pm PT
How many seals did Joe Namath club for that coat?


Loved the commentator "Joe's the only guy in the stadium who wishes it was colder".
Someone gave Joe some really BAD advice.

Susan
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 06:47pm PT
I don't know what you call the guy who hikes the ball, but what is he going to say to his coach?

"Whoops!"
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 06:52pm PT
Nature, get over to Philo's and see if he's still breathing.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 06:52pm PT
Hey, people, this is "Broadway Joe"
He's been like that since he was still a player in the 60s and 70s
It's his image.


Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 06:53pm PT
Joe is still the best arm we've ever seen.
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 06:57pm PT
And apparently a serial cross dresser...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:13pm PT
The FIRST pick. Seriously, Nature, get over to Philo's.
You do know CPR, dontchya?
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:13pm PT
Man oh man where is the Denver offense?
Still on the team bus it looks like.

Seattle TD.

Things are starting to look mighty meager for the horses.

If they don't get on the board before the half ,it's over.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
Lynch WALKS in. I might have to go for a walk.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:25pm PT
Well Locker, the score is 15 - 0, so I guess it is possible . . . just not for the Broncos . . .
WBraun

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:25pm PT
Games over

Denver's is playing like stooopid .....
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:30pm PT
First DOWN Denver!!!!
go-B

climber
1 Corinthians 8:6
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:37pm PT
I'm ready, lets go Broncos!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:38pm PT
Nature, call 911!!!!
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:38pm PT
There's the game right there.

WBraun

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:41pm PT
Game is over

Manning is toast.
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:42pm PT
Denver didn't show up tonight, they had a more important flag football game in the Pee Wee league.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:43pm PT
Denver will get that reviewed call.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
Manning is now 11-12 post-season. Greatest ever? Yeah, right.
WBraun

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
Blowout man.

Bring on the 49ers again instaed it would be a way better game.

AFC Denver dogs

Bah humbug .....
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
VW ad was great though.

Denver is fukked into a cocked hat.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
Is this game rigged?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:46pm PT
If you think the Legion of Boom was teeing off up til now, just wait...
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:56pm PT
Seattle defense is on display , big time...everyone can see it now.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 07:56pm PT
First half SHUTOUT! Can you say '85 Bears?
WBraun

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:00pm PT
Sh!t ...

They should just suit up Elway for the second half ....
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:03pm PT
Joe is still the best arm we've ever seen.

I was a jet fan then.

Sonny Jurgenson.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:11pm PT
football has lost all charm for me.

Everything about it reminds me of what is wrong with America.

Luckily, it's only a game and ultimately means nothing in the over all scheme of things, and so.... I can tolerate the talk, and general chatter about the game and peoples thoughts on the subject...
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:16pm PT
The Denver offense is playing like high-schoolers. Keystone cops. This is absurd. It's like they all had brain transplants. And talk about a classic Manning clutch!

Seattle's defense is good, but they are not causing THIS level of stupidity.

Denver doesn't deserve to come back (even by some miracle) and win this.

This wasn't "best offense" against "best defense." The "best offense" decided not to play. I'm with folks that seriously question the rigging.

This was supposed to be a close game. Instead it's a thoroughly anticlimactic end to the whole season.

I was seriously good with either team winning... IF it was a GAME. But this, well, this is just a pathetic excuse for a "super" bowl.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:18pm PT
Maybe Denver can get Bruno Mars to play for them next half.

Everything about it reminds me of what is wrong with America.

Hey no one gives a sh#t right now about what you "think" is wrong with America, okay.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
Aint heard no phat lady sing so it ain't over.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
Glam rockers at the Superbowl? WTF?
Now the Chilis ain't half bad.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
Can someone in CO please check in on Philo, and see if he's OK?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:20pm PT
Are the commercials available online yet?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:21pm PT
Philo, it's gud to hear yer voice. I was getting worried.
But I see you're now on Phat Lady Elixir. Give it up, bro, it ain't healthy.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:23pm PT
Aint heard no phat lady sing so it ain't over.

That's the spirit!!!
There's a whole half left.

Never say die.

Just look at some of the other post-season play.
WBraun

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:26pm PT
Are the commercials available online yet?


I'm watching the whole game online free

Fox sports online superbowl live stream
WBraun

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:29pm PT
Did Philo ever play football?

The way he talk looks never ....
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:30pm PT
Man, I almost feel sorry for that sorry duo of Buck and Aikman. They
gonna have to try and make the second half interesting. Hell, they couldn't
even make the monster first half interesting. Those two are loozers.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:31pm PT

"Did Philo ever play football?"


He played back before helmets were part of the game.

I hope he's OK. He's off to a rough start to the second half.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:31pm PT
ARE YOU PHUKKING KIDDING ME?

That phat bitch be howling now!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
Fat lady is singing
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
The fat lady just opened the second half.

Its over fer sure.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:33pm PT
It's official...Bruno Mars has suited up for the Broncos!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:34pm PT
Isn't this against the Geneva Convention?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:35pm PT
This one's worse than the Doug Williams Superbowl: Redskins 55 / Broncos 10

The Donks scored in that one. Twice.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:35pm PT
Kickoff return for TD!?!

Uhhh... the fat late is morbidly obese, and she's screaming at the top of her lungs!

Done. Boxed and packaged. This is shaping up to be a complete shut-out, and that's really the only remaining challenge for Seattle now: Hold Denver to zip.

At this point I hope to see it happen.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:35pm PT


ok, that could have gone worse. :-)
John M

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:38pm PT
Not watching the game but from the sound of it the fat lady ate the broncos starting line and this is just some guys off the street.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
Someone's having fun!
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
I'm busy mopping the floor, literally.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
Now the corrupt refs are gonna start calling phantom calls to keep it only pathetically embarrassing.
You notice they didn't show a replay of the 'holding play' that nullified Wilson's run?
That's a dead giveaway.
Lollie

Social climber
I'm Lolli.
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
I have high school memories of American football.
The truly amazing feeling with those games was that it was pitchblack as a winter night, but it was hot. One didn't even need a sweater. Blaring lights, jangling tinny loudspeakers, noise, friends, coke, and something going on down there on the field. Guys running with a funny ball and orange-blue pom-poms. But the warmth. So cool. That feeling has followed me through life. That's what much my travelling is about. The sub-tropic climate with heat in a winter night. Of course it was the same other evenings too, but it somehow got heightened being out with friends.
Almost the same with the baseball-games. In those it was the red earth. Very different colour. And the heat of daytime. The American South, it's very special, and Pensacola is really in the heart of it. The panhandle isn't Florida, it's the South.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:54pm PT
Too bad Bruno Mars didn't play because he couldn't get a helmet over his hair.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:55pm PT
Where's Chris Berman?

FUMBLE!!!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:56pm PT
Donks finally got something going!!!!! .... and .... DOH! Interception - AND 15 yard penalty.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 2, 2014 - 08:59pm PT
LOL... the fat lady ATE the Broncs on their very first play. Exactly right.

I have NO idea who is in there wearing those jerseys.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:01pm PT
The dog ad with Sara Mclaughlin was great.




PHUCK!

Again???
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:03pm PT
HUSKIES!!!!!

Oh, sorry, I got a little carried away.
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:03pm PT
That one guy who didn't vote for Manning for MVP is looking pretty smart right now, huh?
go-B

climber
1 Corinthians 8:6
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:03pm PT
dirtbag

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:03pm PT
yawn
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:06pm PT
Side bets:


What was the over-under on the number of Bob Dylan commercials? It couldn't have been TWO. Could it?
WBraun

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:06pm PT
Dirtbag never played football either.

Football is all American.

Dirtbag = terrible American
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:06pm PT
Second hand smoke has stoned the Broncos .
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:07pm PT
Bob Dylan trying to sell cars as "American"?

Aren't the sub-assemblies built in like 20 other countries?
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:09pm PT
I don't watch much, but this is the worst football game I've ever seen.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:10pm PT
Well, rlf, obviously you don't appreciate great D. I feel for you.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:10pm PT
This sort of garbage seriously makes me just not want to follow football anymore.

It's not just Denver losing; I thought that was a real possibility. But the (statistically speaking) NUMBER ONE offense in history getting SHUT OUT!?! Uhhh... something is VERY wrong with this picture. The Hawks are not THAT good, and the typical Denver team (God knows who THIS is that's playing) is not THIS bad!

Otherwise you've gotta say that the NFC/AFC spread is so wide that the AFC might as well not even be playing the game. I mean, clearly the AFC is so pathetic that it's a bunch of high-school teams compared to the real pros in the NFC. Right?

No, something is very, very wrong with this picture. This sort of blowout just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and it's going to linger for a long, long time.
Yak-Chik

Trad climber
Phoenix
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:12pm PT
mercy score allowed for broncos. uhh!
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:12pm PT
somebody wake me when the Broncos show up.






















Never mind.




















I want those 4 hours back.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:13pm PT
Man, you stoners can't even be gracious in defeat and admit that y'all got
manhandled by one of the greatest defensive teams in history? Get real!
It would have been even worse if the Denver D hadn't played so well in the
first quarter.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:13pm PT
CRAP! Now it's not even a history-making shut-out game, given Denver's score.

Now's it nothing but purely pitiful.
Gene

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:13pm PT
Momentum swing. Watch out. :)
dirtbag

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:15pm PT
Dirtbag never played football either.

Football is all American.

Dirtbag = terrible American


Hey Werner...

The "Yawn" was a comment on this game..

Not on football, which I have played...

But all the same...



























































madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:21pm PT
Man, you stoners can't even be gracious in defeat and admit that y'all got
manhandled by one of the greatest defensive teams in history?

Man, you Hawks fans can't even be gracious in victory and admit that there is NO way that the Hawks are THAT much better. Not ONE pundit or odds-maker (the people that do this for a living, rather than backseat wannabes) even IMAGINED a game like this.

So, Reilly, you really ARE saying that the NFC is THAT much better than the AFC? Or can you just admit that the real Denver team never even showed up? Come on... at least get REAL in your victory.

I'll agree that this is a CLASSIC Manning choke. I even in the back of my mind expected it, and hoped against it. You can even find upthread where I said that Manning might well choke, as he is well known to do.

But I've watched EVERY Hawks game this season, and they just are not THIS good. Period. This is a case of Denver being THIS bad in this particular game. From the very first play, which Seattle had nothing to do with, Denver just hasn't been present and accounted for.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:22pm PT
Anybody who has a problem with the NFL's newfound concern with concussions, and the caution now shown toward minimizing head injuries need only listen to the insane sh#t Troy Aikman says all game long. Rambling about nothing, confusing one team name for another, etc.
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:23pm PT
I have no problems with a good defense, or a good offense, but when one team completely fails to show up, the game is basically no fun to watch.

The only other game I watched this year was with whoever Seattle won against to get to the stuper bowl.

Now that was a game.
go-B

climber
1 Corinthians 8:6
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:23pm PT
How about those...










































































...TV commercials!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:25pm PT
Congrats to Seattle fans. Been a long time coming.

Guess it's true

Defense wins championships.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:32pm PT
Congratulations to Seatlle Seahawks.
Great defense, offense, and special teams.
Great coaching staff led by Pete Carroll.

Really tough for the Broncos. A game to go like this for any team is bad enough in the regular season, but in front of the world it's gotta be really rough.
Otherwise , congrats on a great season nonetheless.
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:35pm PT
I figured it out.

The real Broncos are starring on tonight's episode of Downton Abbey, and the Downton cast is playing at MetLife stadium wearing orange. Violet, Dowager Countess of Grantham, is at QB.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:47pm PT
Send in the cheerleaders to finish 'em off!
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:51pm PT
I could care less about which team wins, but this is just sad to watch.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:51pm PT
Funny, Cragger. What a rout
go-B

climber
1 Corinthians 8:6
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:52pm PT
For Pete's sake Seahawks win XLVIII, congratulations!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:53pm PT
Nostradamus said this sh#t would happen....
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:53pm PT
Seahawks earned it!

Broncos didn't deserve it.
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:56pm PT
No questions, Seattle deserved it!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 2, 2014 - 09:58pm PT
My hat is off to the Seahawks on a remarkable victory. They earned it and I am humbled.
That said I want to reaffirm what I've said all along.
Win or Lose these past two years with Manning in a Bronco uniform have been some of the most enjoyable seasons for me.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 10:01pm PT
Doritos, Jaguar, and the Clydesdales for the win!
At least some horses showed their stuff.

As a UW Husky letterman I hated Pete for his ability and his teams.
As a Seahawk fan I was real happy to get him.
He is now in an elite trio of coaches who have won the NCAA Championship
and the Superbowl.
WBraun

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 10:01pm PT
Damn good game.

Quit yer whinny talk.

The Seahawks were going full on all cylinders.

Broncos were not as good as they thought .....
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 2, 2014 - 10:02pm PT
Didn't Pete Carrol trash USC's football program before he left...?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2014 - 10:06pm PT
No, RJ, Mike Garrett did. I have NO love for the Trojans but them are the facts.
hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Feb 2, 2014 - 10:11pm PT
Let the rains begin
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 2, 2014 - 10:14pm PT
I would not expect a former Husky to like University of Spoiled Children...
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Feb 2, 2014 - 10:33pm PT
Obviously the Seahawks have better weed.
Of course the way the Broncos were playing...maybe theirs is stone-E-er...
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 2, 2014 - 10:56pm PT
Can you pass me a quote, Reilly? I've followed this really closely, and I must have missed his prediction. And, if so, his was anomalous.

This was supposed to be the best against the best, and sweepingly the predictions were for a very close game.

If the NFC really is this much better than the AFC, then the NFL has a big problem. I really have no interest in following football if the disparities can be THIS huge. There's not point to the word "best" in a case where the "best" offense is really a bunch of keystone cops.

We all knew that Denver's defense wasn't the "best," but you would think (and virtually everybody DID) that Denver's offense could produce a much better (more interesting) showing than this.

So, if you attribute THIS much of a disparity to just how way-awesome Seattle's defense is, then, as I said, the NFL has a big problem. (Oh, and teams should really take this as a heads up and spend most of their money on their DEFENSE rather than attempting to build great offenses!)

And if you attribute this much of a disparity to the "offense" team just totally blowing it (the famed Peyton clutch), as I feared might well happen, then you lose ALL ability to predict much of anything in football (hence, odds-makers are unable to make a living, lol), because you SHOULD not have to continually imagine that one of the teams just doesn't show up.

In the end, Seattle totally earned it and just smacked down a team that couldn't be bothered to show up. Congrats to them and their fans!

Meanwhile, there are some HARD questions to be asked and answered in Denver (and, perhaps, in the whole NFL).
TwistedCrank

climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
Feb 2, 2014 - 10:57pm PT
There was a game tonight?
weezy

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 11:04pm PT
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 2, 2014 - 11:07pm PT
Hey Randisi

What does Superbowl Sunday look like where you are in China? Does anybody there know what's going on over here? And does anyone who isn't American or related even care?
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Feb 2, 2014 - 11:08pm PT
Pete Carroll bitches

He got em ready

Can you really lose a game on the first play?

Yep
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Feb 2, 2014 - 11:08pm PT
Omaha Omaha Hurry Oh F*#k!
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 2, 2014 - 11:11pm PT
Congrats to the Seahawks & their fans!

I was more or less neutral on this game between my two fav. NFL teams, but after watching the rout starting, I then realized that I wanted the Seahawks to finally win the Super Bowl.

I feel a little bad for the Broncos, but I'll get over it. It's been a long time coming for Seattle!

I was a huge Seattle fan in the late 70's & 80's------and finally one day------I gave up on pro-football and started watching college football.

Otherwise, I don't watch much in the way of team sports.

Congrats to the Seahawks!
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Feb 2, 2014 - 11:13pm PT
^^ I can't speak for China but here in Delhi most (American)football fans got up early (5:00am)to watch. Many headed over to the Embassy club for a killer breakfast and two large screens. Bloody Marys and mohitos were being served though after that first 20 sec. I don't think anyone bothered.

There was a fairly even split between Seahawk fans (big military up that way right) and Broncos though for some strange reason one side was pretty quiet.
MisterE

climber
Feb 2, 2014 - 11:14pm PT
Man, there is a party in the streets in Seattle tonight.

Wish I could teleport myself to Pioneer Square for the night...

Congrats to the Seahawks - a long time coming, and a decisive win.
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Feb 2, 2014 - 11:26pm PT
It may be that we're back to those years when the NFC was much better than the AFC. Seattle and San Fran were clearly the two best teams this year.
I wasn't sure about it before the game, but Denver's offense seems to have had very padded number this season. The didn't play any defenses rated in the top five and most of their games were against teams in the bottom half defensively. Apparently that's why their numbers were so good.
speelyei

Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
Feb 2, 2014 - 11:35pm PT
It was nice to see the Chili Peppers performing their 23 year old hit...




No it wasn't.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 2, 2014 - 11:51pm PT
So some of us Seattle Stuportopians got together today for the Super Bowl. We had a great time, but I guess we'll have to do it all over again when there's a real football game to watch.

I'm not a fan of any particular team, just someone who likes to watch a good game. But in order to have a good game, two teams have to show up, and tonight that just didn't happen.

Where was the Denver team that set the league on fire for the last five months? Did they think they'd already won, so they could just mail this one in?

Not to take anything away from Seattle, but this was bizarre.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 3, 2014 - 12:12am PT
Yes, it was bizarre although I'm not, like, crying about it.
Look, this is the first major sports championship for Seattle,(*1) and I'm pretty happy about it.

Now on to Downton Abbey.


(*1)
OK, the Sonics:
{ an un-permitted direct quote from Tony:
the Supersonics won the '78-'79 NBA title. The coach was Lenny
Wilkens. ....
}

in edit: The Seattle Storm won two WBA championships, 2004 and 2010. That's an embarrassing slip on my part. I remember listening to games from both of those while on the way to climbing trips. I was a fan of Bird, Jackson and Lennox(only the first on).
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2014 - 12:17am PT
Ha, Darwin, I was in Alaska on a sufferfest when the Sonics won. What a bummer.
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Feb 3, 2014 - 12:36am PT
Oh darn that didn't turn so well.
MisterE

climber
Feb 3, 2014 - 12:36am PT
I'm not a fan of any particular team, just someone who likes to watch a good game. But in order to have a good game, two teams have to show up, and tonight that just didn't happen.

Yeah, it feels like a gloat, not a win. Especially with the history.

Still, the Seahawks failed to fall apart late game, so those of us that remember count that as a different, additional victory.
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Feb 3, 2014 - 12:38am PT
Glad I'm not Floyd mayweather.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Feb 3, 2014 - 12:44am PT
Predictable.

Superbowl was two weeks ago.

Emotions said horses, money said coffee geeks.

Thank you Seattle talents, tonights rounds are on you.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Feb 3, 2014 - 11:53am PT
GO BLAZERS!!!
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Feb 3, 2014 - 12:16pm PT
From the first snap, I started drinking heavily. Ugh!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 3, 2014 - 12:29pm PT
The team of destiny just ran into a team that is way better than them.
jstan

climber
Feb 3, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
Hard to watch that game without thinking it would be nice to be young. Those kids were so fast, so quick, and so into what they were doing. You never saw a Denverite carrying the ball who did not have every Seattle player within range charging toward him at warp speed. Not so with Denver. That part of the game was a treat.

Have not watched FB in years. The reduction in head butting was very evident. The game has gotten better.

The ads and the half time? Who the heck do they think is out here watching? Good grief! The pigs I used to feed would have turned their noses up at the half time.
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Feb 3, 2014 - 01:27pm PT
Seattle's 12th man comes through

12 seconds into 1st half = Safety
12 seconds into 2nd half = Touchdown
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Feb 3, 2014 - 01:27pm PT
The team of destiny just ran into a team that is way better than them.

That kind of sums it up. There were so many facial shots of Peyton. I don't recall hardly any of Bulletman Wilson.

Earlier in the day I said to a friend in Alberta, "go Hawks!" Well before the game, I got back to him and said " May the best team win...or something like that."
go-B

climber
1 Corinthians 8:6
Feb 3, 2014 - 01:32pm PT
There's the West Coast Offence,

now there's the Pacific North West Defence!
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Feb 3, 2014 - 01:34pm PT
There's the West Coast Offence,

now there's the Pacific North West Defence!

Pacific Northwest Defiance! We were smokin without smokin!
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Feb 3, 2014 - 01:51pm PT
I suspect that nature is the only man that could pull off wearing an obnoxious feathery light up Seahawks hat and Wilson jersey in Bronco country and actually be CONGRATULATED and thanked for being such a good fan by random Broncos fans on the street. All the other Seahawks fans we ran into last had been kicked out of multiple bars, had drinks thrown on them and threatened with ass kickings...
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 3, 2014 - 02:04pm PT
The reduction in head butting was very evident. The game has gotten better.

That's because the NFL has been overreacting to all the horrified ninnys and gold-digging lawyers out there who don't understand or even really like football, or who want to browbeat the NFL into ponying up more cash. If it weren't a popular sport these ninnys wouldn't give a rats rear end about helmet hits or anything else about how the game is played.

The game has not gotten better, just slightly neutered , essentially in a blow-over attempt to please a bunch of ninnys and legal consultants.


Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Feb 3, 2014 - 02:06pm PT
Man City v. Chelsea today.

Hell yeah I'm ready for some football! (not this boring ass american "football" bs where they play for 12 seconds then walk around slapping each others ass and yelling out Da Vinci codes for 6 minutes between "plays").

Mourinho and the rest of the blue racists need to get put in their place. Not a fan of Man-Sheik-y, but better the citizens than the chavs.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 3, 2014 - 03:03pm PT
Denver thought that their finesse offense was just gonna keep working, but it was only gonna work against the Hawks if the o-line held. And Denver's o-line just got smacked down! Badly!

I was always worried about Denver's defense, and I was not surprised at how it played. This was either going to be a high-scoring game for BOTH teams, or Denver necessarily would lose. I thought Denver's o-line would do MUCH better than it did, so I though it would be a close game with a (just barely) Denver win.

But Denver's offense didn't come to PLAY, as many have noted here. Denver thought it would just (apparently easily) out-finesse an in-your-face team, which was ridiculous. Give Manning even a second more in the pocket, with receivers determined to make that extra half-yard or yard per play (instead of running the wrong way, trying to break out for the BIG play), and you've got a very different game. Denver had to be MUCH more "in the trenches" to win this.

The ironic metaphor to me is that the Broncos thought they would soar above, and the Hawks came prepared to harness up and drag heavy loads through deep mud. The physical sloggers proved their will and prowess, and the "lofty" Broncs got their "wings" clipped off!
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Feb 3, 2014 - 03:18pm PT
Remember that Manning pass where his arm kept going forward and the ball had been stopped by defense early in the pass attempt? That was interesting to see.
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Feb 3, 2014 - 03:32pm PT
the big problem for the O line was the receivers couldn't get open

normally with those picks and rubs manning needs only a few seconds to dump it off

Carroll et. al took that away and it exposed Denver as being very one-dimensional

surprised that Fox didn't have more tricks up his sleeve? I'm not.

where were the constant audibles Manning is known for? he did none of that. well except the first play of the game when he audibled a safety for Seattle lol

credit the game plan and the execution for making Manning look like a shadow of his former self
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 3, 2014 - 03:42pm PT
From what I could see, it may have been too damn LOUD for Manning to do all that scrimmage-line grab-ass he normally does, because nobody could hear a thing he was saying.

The fans sounded like a they were at a home game at The CLink.

Manning may as well have been IN Omaha, for all the good shouting "OMAHA" was doing him.
jstan

climber
Feb 3, 2014 - 03:54pm PT
The game has not gotten better, just slightly neutered

Perhaps it is a matter of what one likes? I thought the broken field runs by Seattle were little shy of impossible. Very exciting. You have to be smaller and fast to do that. If seeing three hundred pound guys being carried off with a fork lift excites one....I suppose. Quadriplegia is no fun though.

Ice hockey can be an even faster and more exciting game. As long as it is not footballed to death. What we need to do though is develop a system wherein spectators can be brought on field when the audience wants to see a ten foot long red streak on the barrier at field's edge. If we put up point sensitive microphones that sweep the seats recording which members of the audience most want to see blood, we would even have a good way to select volunteers. Just an idea for your consideration.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 3, 2014 - 05:15pm PT
If seeing three hundred pound guys being carried off with a fork lift excites one....I suppose.

That doesn't "excite" me. Just as it wouldn't excite me to see yourself rolled out on a gurney by paramedics after a stroke or heart attack---a unwilling victim of the game of life.
At least it can be said that footballers have a choice in the matter. At least they do for now, until or unless more ninnys and lawyers can mobilize to proscribe that freedom.

Football is a brutal game , no getting around it---the wicked appeal of which declines inversely with evaporating testosterone levels.
I doubt if many football , or hockey ,fans are gorging themselves on gladiatorial blood, as you maladroitly suggested.( You may have been watching a film with Russell Crow instead of the Super Bowl ---check your listings)

Sports fans are in general mostly like many of the posters on this thread: appreciative of a good game strategically played by talented and dedicated athletes and coaches who have worked surprisingly hard to reach the highest level in their difficult, dangerous, and rigorous sport.

And you can add to that what a famous American general who helped to defeat Hitler once said:

" Americans love a winner... And will not tolerate a loser"
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 3, 2014 - 05:33pm PT
This explains everything


climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Feb 3, 2014 - 07:47pm PT
It's all pussy ass sh#t compared to the real games. Considering that, I do not see much reason not to enact rules in what is basically a dumb entertainment venue to reduce risk to peoples parents and children.


In the real world Denver had a great year better than all but 1 team and that ain't nothing to cry about. It was a pleasure to watch, Peyton is still one of the best to ever play the game. Seattle looks well built for years to come.. I really expect them to be a force again next year.

Looking forward to next year.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Feb 3, 2014 - 07:53pm PT
Time to bring back Tebow!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Feb 3, 2014 - 07:56pm PT
Tell me what team would not be improved by having Manning as their starter. Take any player you want from Denver and they are still in the Superbowl, except for one.

I can only think of three teams that might not take him because they are built differently or have solid QBs already. But I wouldn't bet the farm on them not taking Peyton either. Except for the patriots.

He is clearly one of the two best QBs playing today and those two are easily among the 5 best that have ever played.
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Feb 3, 2014 - 08:04pm PT
Manning is old. Maybe one to two more years at best. So at the least, I can think of 6.

Seattle
San Francisco
Green Bay
Indianapolis
New Orleans
New England

The first four have good young QBs. New Orleans and New England have good older QBs. Arguably you could add Philip Rivers, Alex Smith, Cam Newton and Peyton's brother to the list.
WBraun

climber
Feb 3, 2014 - 08:09pm PT
All the football science guys got taken to the cleaners yesterday .......
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2014 - 08:12pm PT
Uh,uh, me and Nature were the cleaners.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 3, 2014 - 08:14pm PT
I hope I didn't use to much starch on those shirts.
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Feb 3, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
the greatest super bowl ad you didn't see because you don't live in savannah, ga

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr2gdPY-88w


two minutes during the super bowl!
go-B

climber
1 Corinthians 8:6
Feb 3, 2014 - 08:25pm PT

...don't worry kid, there's always next year!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 3, 2014 - 08:29pm PT
The science guys were busy crunching numbers while the Sea Hawks and that one ref were crushing the Niners...
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Feb 3, 2014 - 08:40pm PT
My list of greatest QBs

1. Steve Young
2. Joe Montana
3. Tom Brady
4. Peyton Manning
5. Dan Marino
6. John Elway

The first three distinguish themselves most because under pressure they got better. Rare trait. Interestingly enough Peyton's little brother is like that. Better under pressure.
WBraun

climber
Feb 3, 2014 - 08:56pm PT
Greatest Quarterback

Kenny Stabler

Drunk all night womanizing and kickin ass next morning on the field.

Madden was freakin out and and Stabler nonchalantly says "Don't worry coach we'll get lots of touch downs".

Those crazy ass raiders from back in the 60's were the bomb ......
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Feb 3, 2014 - 10:30pm PT
Stabler was mostly a 1970's QB for the Raiders... (70-79)


Love the stories of his past team mates who said he reeked of booze in the huddle on game day :-)
krahmes

Social climber
Stumptown
Feb 3, 2014 - 11:19pm PT
HEY PHILO...
SORRY I'M LATE.... DINNER IS SERVED.....


paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Feb 3, 2014 - 11:37pm PT
...so glad I took buffalo and the points...
Da_Dweeb

climber
Feb 3, 2014 - 11:50pm PT
43-8.

it was a nice day for a Red Superbowl.

The Lannisters send their regards.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 3, 2014 - 11:55pm PT
Wow, krahmes. I wish I had a dead crow. They make great scarecrows. I'm not joking. Hang one on a fence, and the whole rest of the flock will stay the F away.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 4, 2014 - 12:00am PT
mad, I don't believe that it's the NFC being that much better than the AFC.

I'm sure this was pointed out many times during the game but i'll restate it anyway. something like 27 of the players on the 'Hawks were not drafted. Their franchise QB was taken in the 3rd round and makes $800K or so. Compare that to Manning who makes $21.5M. That's a lot of money to spend.

There was also a poll of the players in the NFL and something like 27% of them said they'd prefer to play for PC. Avril took less money on a shorter contract to go win a superbowl. In a sense the ring on his finger cost him $10M or more.

PC and JS have done a brilliant job of managing the salary cap. On top of that they know talent. I believe that that because of the way PC recruited at USC (read: he recruited everyone) he knew the players in the drafts better than anyone.

When it comes to the draft they go against convention. They traded away their #1 pick for Harvin. With their #2 pick they took a RB named Christine Michael. Yet they have Marshawn and Turbin. I could go on but the point is they are building a team in a way that once some of the guys want too much money they have the next guy already on the squad. I wouldn't be surprised if next year is Marshawn's last on the squad (Clemens, Miller, Rice are probably gone or re-structuring).

Sherman, Wilson, and Thomas III will need to be paid. They will extend Thomas III in the offseason. Wilson can't talk contract until after 2014 and I think he'll will give a huge home town discount. Sherman will probably play out his deal and worse case scenario get slapped with the franchise tag. Kam is locked up until 2018.

Other NFL teams see what Seattle is doing and will copy. But when you have a contract like Mannings on the roster it's a lot tougher.

So it's not that the NFC is better than the AFC. It's just that Seattle is way better at everything than any other team in the league.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 4, 2014 - 12:02am PT
BTW.... I can't believe Man City lost to Chelsea at home!




Playoffs are unpredictable, my only pick.....Broncos and Seahawks will not meet in the Superbowl.

and somewhere up thread I predicted 40-10.
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Feb 4, 2014 - 12:04am PT
It's just that Seattle is way better at everything than any other team in the league.


rub it in why doncha ;-)

post a pic of that hat...
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 4, 2014 - 02:52am PT
So it's not that the NFC is better than the AFC. It's just that Seattle is way better at everything than any other team in the league.

Thank you for the detailed and very thoughtful response. Everything you said made a lot of sense and worked for me as a partial explanation. But this last sentence doesn't seem to me like a conclusion that really answers my overarching question. Let me restate it in another way.

Okay, you claim that Seattle is that much better. But, really, SF almost went to the SB instead of Seattle. Surely you'll admit that it was at least close. At least you'll surely admit that SF was a FAR stronger team than was Denver. It seems from watching SF and Seattle play, that either would have given Denver a similar stomp-down, and, honestly, I thought that SF played better in the NFC championship game, except for some oddities, than did Seattle. Until right at the end, I fully expected to see SF play Denver.

So, you've got at least two teams in the NFC that are better than the best team in the AFC. But the stats are even worse. The NFC has beat the AFC significantly more in the SB. They also (prior to the lame change) beat the AFC more in the Pro Bowl.

I could go on and on. It just seems pretty clear that the NFC is stronger than the AFC. In this case, this SB in particular, the disparity was SO great that the "best" against the "best" was laughable. And that's what bothers me.

I, among many Denver fans, was not sitting around feeling like, "Oh yeah! We've SO got this!" I KNEW that Seattle (or SF) was going to put up an amazing fight and that such a strong defense was going to pose a SERIOUS problem. (Apparently I took this more seriously than the Denver team did. lol) But, I had hopes (not confidence, mind you) that Denver's offense could pull it off (barely, according to the odds-makers). So, imagine my shock to see such an amazing blow-out.

And THAT is what begs the question: Exactly HOW can the blow-out be that bad? And that leads to the fork in the road....

1) Denver basically didn't show up (for some reason), making Seattle look even better than they are.

2) Seattle really is that much better than Denver.

If (1), then the problem is localized to the Denver team and management, and they can sort that out as they please. I have no ax to grind there.

If (2), however, THIS is where my overarching question becomes pressing! I then want to know HOW the two sides of NFL get THAT out of whack. And then, your above answer strikes me as a very, very inadequate account of the situation.

Sorry for being long-winded, but it's hard to craft the nuances of what's bothering me here. I hope this makes a bit more sense than the earlier way I cast my question.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Feb 4, 2014 - 04:31am PT

post a pic of that hat...

Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 4, 2014 - 10:05am PT
I was going to post thoughts similar to madbolter. As in, if it was simply the case that Seattle is "way better at everything than any other team in the league" then they would not have almost been beaten by SF a couple of weeks ago.

Which raises questions like:

If Seattle really was that much better than Denver, they would be hanging 100 points on teams that Denver scored 40 or 50 against. Is that really the case?

Would SF (or even New Orleans) have beaten Denver almost as easily?

If the Super Bowl were played fresh ten times, would Seattle flatten Denver exactly the same way every time?

Whatever is going on, that was one strange football game.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 4, 2014 - 01:45pm PT

The World Cup begins in June in Brasil!!!!

That's gunna have some REAL FUTBOL!!!!
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Feb 4, 2014 - 02:07pm PT
What I think is a little messed up is that both SF and SEA are in the same division. Seems like both of those teams will be just as strong as this year during the next season. Even though it will be interesting to watch them play each other twice after what happened during last two seasons, but I think it will be a little unfair that one of them will have to be a wildcard team to make the playoffs. SF had to win two road playoff games to even get to Seattle. That's a lot of extra work for a team that would otherwise be rewarded a home field advantage and a first round BYE..
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 4, 2014 - 02:39pm PT
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E51jwDH7hNY

Maybe the Broncos lost because they are such unbridled Republican capitalists.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Feb 4, 2014 - 02:48pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 4, 2014 - 02:55pm PT
I stopped watching that ridiculous video after the first "example".

shoulder pad to helmet. it was the right call and blatantly obvious in replay.

Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Feb 4, 2014 - 03:26pm PT
Seems like NFC East and North will be VERY weak compared to South and West. South will have Carolina, NO and Atlanta fighting for the #1 spot. And in the West with SF, Seattle, and Arizona it will be a group of death. St. Louis Rams is not a particularly light team neither. I think if placed in NFC East all 4 of those teams would have a really high chance of taking the #1 spot. Just not a very balanced league.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2014 - 03:55pm PT
Without reading the article I am here to tell ya those were standard USN
carrier LSO hand signals for

"YOU'RE TOO FAST! WAVE OFF! WAVE OFF!"
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 4, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
In 2010 Seattle won the NFC West with a 7-9 record. It was the worst division in the league. A few years later it's the best.

The salary cap is designed to try and achieve parody. When a team wants to start over and cut bait it gets nailed the first year. After that it can start to build up.

The Seahawks are so dam good right now because they started with a lot of cap space. They manage it very very very well.

As far as my comment: It's just that Seattle is way better at everything than any other team in the league.

I get to say that cuz they gots the hardware to prove it.

I could go on and on about what seattle is doing right. But when you have idiots like Jerry Jones and Daniel Schneider that think they know what is best for their football team you will have teams that suck.

Mr. Kraft has been winning in NE because he knows his place. Paul Allen is the same - he leaves it to JS and PC and those two guys are kicking some serious butt right now.

If there is disparity it's less about how the NFL is set up and more about the way individual teams are run.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 5, 2014 - 01:57pm PT
There are currently between 300,000 and 500,000 lunatics lining the street below my office window to watch as the Seahawks parade from the Space Needle to the Clink.

They've come from all over the Pacific Northwest and Southwestern BC. Some started staking out positions yesterday evening and spent the night on the street, despite the fact that we had record cold temps. When I cycled through that area at 08:00 this morning they were out in full lounge chair and picnic mode. In sub-freezing weather.

Lunatics
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 5, 2014 - 03:46pm PT
SPD says there are 700,000 lunatics out watching the parade, boss.


woooohooooo....


Go 'Hawks!
Roughster

Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
Feb 19, 2014 - 01:15am PT
Can't resist posting this:

http://vimeo.com/86925492

Not you tube but Vimeo so you'll need to click on the link. Not anything malicious I promise! Well...unless you are Denver Broncos Fan!
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Aug 28, 2014 - 05:18pm PT
To his credit Goodell apologized for the weak reaction and they are instituting tougher penalties for all nfl personnel.

I'd like to see something done about the low hits to the knees we are seeing too much of. Now that hits to the head are so restricted. As they should be. Yes that leaves a narrow field to hit but a full force blow should only be to the torso.

Levis stadium the "field of jeans" is an oven. I wonder how much of it is due to the huge wall of glass luxury boxes reflecting sun onto the visitors side?

Anyway I also want to bump this thread with the true sport of football in America. What "football" is in any particular country is what is the most popular form of football in that country. No Americans go to England and demand association football should be called soccer there.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 28, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
I posit that when America's pastime is mesmerizing the masses their asses are growing at an accelerated rate......the offensive lineman look is in!
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Aug 28, 2014 - 07:15pm PT
According to USA Today, Condoleezza Rice, former Sec. of State, is a member of the thirteen person college playoff committee. Maybe she is there to keep the peace. Maybe she loves football. It will be interesting to hear what she has to say about it months from now.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Aug 28, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
Well, I guess it didn't take long for her to speak up.


NEW YORK—Saying that she could use a short reminder of why she has a significant sway in the shaping of the collegiate sports landscape, sources confirmed that former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice spent the first 15 minutes of a College Football Committee meeting Monday asking board members to explain what the f*#k she was doing there. “Before we get started, I just want to quickly ask: Does anybody have a reasonable explanation for why I’m sitting here to deliberate the rankings of a bunch of football teams?” said Rice, adding that she was hoping for further clarification on what possible aspect of her decades of work and life experience made her appear remotely qualified, or even interested in, a job that entails determining whether LSU is a better football team than Michigan State. “Just to clarify, they decided to replace a computer algorithm with 13 people from across the country, and that group needed to include a former Secretary of State and a retired lieutenant from the Air Force. And now, I’ll be relied upon every week to hash out the relative strengths and weaknesses of each team in the SEC, ACC, and Pac-12. That make sense to anyone?” Sources confirmed that a visibly frustrated Rice then leaned back in her chair and asked to see the chart of offensive efficiency ratings so she could “get this stupid f*#king thing over with.”
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Aug 28, 2014 - 07:28pm PT
The previous was from the satirical "The Onion". Still, pretty funny.
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Aug 28, 2014 - 08:35pm PT
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Aug 28, 2014 - 09:22pm PT
^^ haha that would be suitable for many Raiders fans.

Where will the raiders be next year, now that their lease is up? LA would privately finance a stadium. The As are in Oakland for a while, but the warriors are leaving for SF, maybe they'll build a new stadium in Oakland? Going to San Antonio would suck. Texas has enough football teams.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Sep 4, 2014 - 07:27pm PT
Fail mary revisited.
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Sep 4, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
Portland Raiders!!!!

Salt Lake Raiders!!!!!!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 4, 2014 - 10:47pm PT
What's the record for consecutive games in which the defense scores a safety? It can't be more than two, can it?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 19, 2014 - 06:14pm PT
If I'm coach of the Seahawks, we spend all day tomorrow doing the keep-your-eye-on-the-ball drill, where a ball is placed on the floor and the team spends three hours staring at it.

I can't stand Jeff Fisher, but that deception on the punt return was brilliant.
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Oct 19, 2014 - 06:43pm PT
509 for Peyton.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 25, 2014 - 10:09pm PT
HEADS UP!!

Football starts tomorrow at 6:30 am ( Yosemite Valley Time ).

Fox is televising the Detroit-Atlanta game live from England.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Nov 2, 2014 - 06:15pm PT
life is sweet...

Broncos v. Patriots... let it snow, let it snow, let it snow...
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 23, 2014 - 07:51pm PT
Holy crap

http://www.redeyechicago.com/sports/breaking/chi-odell-no-no-way-beckham-really-made-this-catch-right-20141123,0,686771.htmlstory

johntp

Trad climber
socal
Nov 23, 2014 - 10:07pm PT
Cowboys pulled it off. Seems like Romo has a front line that can do the job. Nice pass protection.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Nov 23, 2014 - 10:08pm PT
Is it baseball season yet?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 23, 2014 - 10:15pm PT
Beckham totally committed offensive pass interference.
It was amazing but poetic justice that they lost.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 27, 2014 - 12:13pm PT
Robin Williams' football career was not as stellar as his acting career.

Turns out he was a juggler, too.

You were the funniest man alive, Robin. RIP and thanks for the laughs and tears.
[Click to View YouTube Video]

With a quarter left to play, Detroit leads the Bears 31-17.


Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 27, 2014 - 12:20pm PT
Mouse, those aren't the Bears. They're Los Ositos.
Captain...or Skully

climber
in the oil patch...Fricken Bakken, that's where
Nov 27, 2014 - 07:00pm PT
Football is the strangest religion ever. Fricken weird, is what.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 27, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
It's preferable to gladiator battles, isn't it?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 27, 2014 - 08:43pm PT
Marshawn Lynch 19 carries, 101 yards rushing. #Seahawks lead at SF 19-3, 3 minutes left. Stadium already as empty as a turkey carcass.--comment from the internet, not my own

I loved the metaphor's aptness, but I doubt it's the commentator's own original idea.

I didn't watch--I don't have TV. I simply check scores.

I'm not religious about football--I don't pray for victory. I takes away from the individual players and the team's efforts.

"'Weird' is a weird word.'"--someone must've been quoted as saying this before, too
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 27, 2014 - 08:44pm PT
Kaepernick got schooled, again. Dude isn't Phi Beta Kappa.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 27, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
More like Turkey Tech. (CSU STanislaus' nickname). That's in his hometown of Turlock.
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Nov 27, 2014 - 10:46pm PT
Reckon they shouldn't have given up on Alex Smith. Kapernick was terrible. Those two pick by Sherman weren't good plays by Sherman. They were bad throws, as were just about everything he tried longer than 5 yards.
That was ugly.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 4, 2014 - 11:27am PT
Ryan Leaf got out of jail yesterday, not for long I suspect.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 4, 2014 - 11:35am PT
Jon, I read that as part of his parole he has to move down here
and live with Todd Marinovich.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 4, 2014 - 01:04pm PT
"Ryan Leaf got out of jail yesterday..."

And signed with The Raiders.
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Dec 4, 2014 - 01:14pm PT
Captain...or Skully

Football is the strangest religion ever. Fricken weird, is what.

Not really a religion but for myself it reminds me of fun times spent with family and friends that may not be around anymore. If Detroit wins I know that would make my Dad happy, and that makes me happy.

Who doesn't enjoy listening to a ballgame either baseball or football on the radio while working in the garage. Or taking a lazy weekend off and teaching kids how to throw and catch a ball. It's one of the great things about America like freedom of speech, the right to bear arms and making fun of Canadians.
skitch

climber
East of Heaven
Dec 4, 2014 - 03:55pm PT
Anyone want to help me with my Fantasy lineup for this week?

Should I play Romo or Rivers???

What about: Isaiah Crowell vs Tre Mason Vs Kenny Stills for the Flex???
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 7, 2014 - 04:40pm PT
Memo to the Eagles: You were late to school today.

Oh, yeah, BREAK UP THE RAIDERS!
Osprey

climber
Dec 7, 2014 - 07:52pm PT
The Eagles played a hurry up, three-and-out, offense today.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 14, 2014 - 04:25pm PT
Hey, Niners, how's that offense workin' for ya?
Special K: 10 completions for 127 yards? Really?
My mom could do that! OK, not against the Seahawks.
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Dec 14, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
The niners vs. the hawks is a tough one for me. Th 49er's are the YNP team for sure, and the Seahawks are my local team. So, I hate either team losing and cheer either winning! Go Hawks (I guess)!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 18, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
StinkerBowl tonight!

These two teams have played a combined 28 games this season - and won four of them put together.

Should be a good match-up though.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 18, 2014 - 09:22pm PT
I haven't been paying much attention to this thread, because I mostly focus on real football, oh and the SF Giants. But

Are there any Az. Cardinal fans on the Taco? It's a pretty big game this coming weekend. I have too many friends who REALLY CARE about the Seahawks to not root for the Hawks, but if the Cardinals manage to pull it off with a Nth string quarterback, more power to them.
coolrockclimberguy69

climber
Dec 18, 2014 - 10:13pm PT
GO RAIDERS
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 20, 2014 - 07:07pm PT
Must-win game-one in a series, and Dago's finished by halftime. That saves them a winter trip to Denver or Massachusetts.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 20, 2014 - 11:17pm PT
Dem Bolts ain't dead yet, chalk this one up as the best come back in Charger history, or the worse meltdown in Niner history

Crazy game
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 21, 2014 - 10:10am PT
Break up the Niners!

The Eagles had a gud day too, eh?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 21, 2014 - 01:22pm PT
ho man, the Pats won a totally ugly game in the Meadowlands... smashmouth would be a too elegant description, but in the end, they managed to hang on and let the clock expire with a point lead...

all that matters is the W (though the defense has been very stingy on allowing any touchdowns in the second half, they shined again today)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 21, 2014 - 05:27pm PT
Lord, what did I do to deserve Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth?
Thank you for at least putting the Mute button on my remote.

17-10 Seahawks
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 21, 2014 - 05:31pm PT
Bob Costas or Dan Patrick. I don't know which one I dislike more. NBC just needs Erin Andrews, and they'll have every turd in football broadcasting.

Al Michaels sounds like he'd be happier covering horse races for the Food Network.
Gearhead

Trad climber
Novato Ca
Dec 21, 2014 - 06:55pm PT
Steelers are in!!
Osprey

climber
Dec 23, 2014 - 05:19am PT
Watching Payton Manning is like watching Antiques Roadshow. Which really is too bad because he has had such a brilliant career.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 3, 2015 - 01:34pm PT
I can't believe the Kitty Kats are favored over the Cardinals, even if the
game is in their house. But since the NFL refs are such homers I guess
Vegas figures that into their odds. I guess I will too.

I was gonna take the Steelers but without Bell I think I'm going with the Ravens.

The Bengals have the proverbial two chances.

Lions will give the Boys a hard time but the Boys have the better running game
and the better QB. They're also at home.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 3, 2015 - 01:41pm PT
Larry Fitzgerald deserves to win a Superbowl before he retires,

maybe he'll end up with the Patriots...
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 3, 2015 - 04:48pm PT
Go Ducks!!
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jan 3, 2015 - 05:01pm PT
I posted this last night on the FNPWDT, but this is a far better place.

I was drinking at the time.

Kudos to the Pac 12 Conference, which has the best record of any conference in bowl games this winter.


Only two Pac 12 teams have lost a bowl game this winter: Arizona & Washington.

And of course mighty Oregon knocked off the reigning national champ, Florida State and it looks like they will rip Ohio State a new one for the National Championship!

Woohoho to the Pac 12 & Oregon!

sluurp.

and of course lowly Boise State was one of the only two teams to beat a Pack 12 team in a bowl game.

and of course, the one they beat-----Arizona, was the only team this year that beat mighty Oregon.

Go Oregon.

sluuuup.

How bout them BSU Broncos?

By the way!

I drink to the SEC having one of the worst bowl-game records of Power-Five conferences.

FUK those SEC puffed-upped-redneck-uppity-Dooedes & the Alabama they rode in on!
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 3, 2015 - 05:05pm PT
I'm disgusted.
Goodbye Larry.
Cardinals, we'll see . . .
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 3, 2015 - 05:24pm PT
Fritz, I have said for a long time those Cracker sckools are such a joke. First, their admission
standards are pathetic. Second they shamelessly pad their schedules with week after week of
The Sisters of Mercy and East Southern Vocational College of Major College Wannabes.

There were some great bowl games, with the notable exception of Okie State/Washington.

OK, back to my Green Flash Brewery Double Stout and the Steelers/Ravens. For the record
I think John Harbaugh is the far superior coach in the family. Sadly, it is Al Michaels and
Chris Collinsworth so the Mute will be on. They should change their names to Belabor The
Obvious and Beat A Dead Horse.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jan 3, 2015 - 07:04pm PT
Reilly! You are preaching to the choir about the "red-neck wonder"----the now mostly-defeated and unlamented, once mighty SEC.

Here's what ESPN had to say on the subject today:

Remember the SEC West? It was the conference that a handful of people, including myself, were enamored with for so long. But after Alabama's 42-35 loss to Ohio State in the Allstate Sugar Bowl, which officially knocked the SEC out of the national title hunt, the SEC West dropped to 2-5 in bowl season.

and more---- http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/96259/the-sec-west-fails-to-live-up-to-the-hype
SC seagoat

Trad climber
In What Time Zone Am I?
Jan 3, 2015 - 09:17pm PT
Steelers lose. Heartbreak for this native Western Pa girl.


Susan
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 3, 2015 - 10:12pm PT
Alabama hasn't been the same since Forrest Gump graduated...
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 4, 2015 - 11:35am PT
Bump bump Bumpplay off time half time ,
Colts vs Bengals
SicMic

climber
across the street from Marshall
Jan 8, 2015 - 06:17pm PT

Rustlin' up some cheer with the Pony Express.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 8, 2015 - 06:28pm PT
I'll pick the Patriots over the Ravens

Broncos over the Colts

Seahawks over Panthers

Packers over Cowboys ( this match-up of all the 4 is the one with the most potential of going either way)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 8, 2015 - 06:39pm PT
I'm afraid that I agree although I'm hoping the Colts win. The Broncos' D
is superior to the Colts' so that's where my money will be. On paper the
Packers/Boys looks good but those Tejas pussies will not fare well on the
Frozen Tundra.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 8, 2015 - 06:50pm PT
It has to be Brady against Manning in the AFC finals.

Wilson against Rodgers in the NFC.

Long term prediction: Broncos and Seahawks in Super Bowl . If not then Patriots and Seahawks.

Seattle could go all the way again.

But I hope it's Denver. I'm a Manning fan and don't see him playing many more years and so I'd like to see him get another Championship.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 8, 2015 - 06:58pm PT
Ain't gonna happen, bro. The Broncos can't win in Foxborough; Manning is
washed up. Just give the damn trophy to the Seahawks now already! ;-)
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 8, 2015 - 06:59pm PT
I want Manning to win another ring.. but I suspect it will be Brady this year.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 8, 2015 - 07:14pm PT
Well now , Brady is no hot wad of gumbo in the longevity department either. The Patriots have not impressed me this year . Despite their offensive line being in good shape , their overall play has been sketchy and inconsistent. Not the overwhelmers of yesteryear.

If it's the Patriots and Seahawks in the SuperBowl I'm a-pickin Seattle.
Ol' Brady will have huge problems with their pass defense.


Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 8, 2015 - 07:20pm PT
Brady may be on the downhill side but he is still more mobile than Manning
and can certainly take a hit better. While I haven't seen too much of the
Pats from what I've seen their D has improved and Belichek is not to be
under-estimated. It doesn't really matter though, does it? The Hawks are
peaking and Pete Carroll is at least the equal of Big Bill tactically and I
suspect he is a far better motivator, not that pros should need motivating,
but we're not talking about Cal Tech educated Navy Seals.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 8, 2015 - 07:30pm PT
Brady is nursing an ankle injury he sustained back in October. His mobility is a big question going into this post season. He has been going pretty good on it so far. But If it blows then goodbye New England.

Besides, Carroll dresses better than Belichek.

FULL PARTICIPATION
QB Tom Brady - Ankle

You do not want your QB on any injury report going into these type of games.

If you did have to have your QB on the lnjury list you couldn't do better than Tom Brady , that's for sure. One of the all time greats.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 8, 2015 - 07:53pm PT
Ward, Brady is listed with some injury or other every week, part of Belichek trying to keep the opponents guessing. Brady has never been mobile, so even if the ankle is still or ever was an issue, which I sincerely doubt, then he can still be effective in the pocket. The O line was dialed in mid-season and was protecting Brady quite well before injuries necessitated a change, but the bye week will help that whole situation.

A healthy Gronk in the playoffs is going to be fun to watch. I just hope the big meathead doesn't hurt himself again.

I got Pats over Seahawks in the big game.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 8, 2015 - 08:00pm PT
No one in the NFL is fooled by injury reports. All the leagues defenses know that Brady is slow off the dime since Oct., the Ravens know it.
You are right , the Pats offensive line has performed very well this year and have stepped up marvelously the last few games. Unquestionably one of the best O lines this year.

It would be fun to watch Gronkowski up against the Seahawk pass defense in the Super Bowl

I'm still rootin' for the Broncos as a dark horse in all this.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 8, 2015 - 08:20pm PT
I got Pats over Seahawks in the big game.

Yer like those doods that didn't take bivy gear on Mt Alberta!
God loves a barmy optimist!

The Hawks' D is the best in the last theee decades along with the Ravens' a few years ago
and the Super Bowl Shuffle Bears. I'm giving 9 points to whoevah plays the Hawks.
Who wants my money?
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 8, 2015 - 08:56pm PT
I'm afraid that I agree although I'm hoping the Colts win.

In the gym last weekend I was warming up on a stationary bike. All the stationary bikes have TVs on them. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing from a training perspective, but I did get to watch some of the Colts/Bengals game.

The one thing that struck me above all else was watching Andrew Luck stand around in the pocket for pretty much as long as it took for one of his receivers to get free, and then toss a pass. Every time I saw that, I thought "What is he gonna do when he faces a team with a real, NFL-level defense?"

John M

climber
Jan 10, 2015 - 01:27pm PT
I'm looking forward to watching the Ravens and Patriots. I haven't had TV in over 20 years. Kind of weird.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 10, 2015 - 01:36pm PT
The Patriots and Ravens is going to boil down to the pass rush from the Ravens against the Patriot offensive line. If the Ravens cannot put credible pressure on Brady in the pocket then the Patriots pass game is gonna eat up the Raven secondary.

This years most improved offense since the the season opener has definitely been the Ravens. Flacco only gets better.Probably best QB on the road in the NFL.
John M

climber
Jan 10, 2015 - 02:08pm PT
got to love a guy named gronkowski
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 10, 2015 - 02:55pm PT
As I said, its a matter of the Pats being able to pick apart the Ravens secondary. If Brady's offensive line can still manage to give him the time he needs then the Patriots will keep scoring on possessions.
Pats defense is also looking better in quarter 2. They are showing some awesome coverage in their secondary and have forced the Ravens to the run, at least for now.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 10, 2015 - 04:06pm PT
Well, Edelman was a QB at Kent State after all
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 10, 2015 - 04:37pm PT
Great game. Even the staffs and bench on both teams got big smiles on their faces. They know they're watching and part of an excellent game.
John M

climber
Jan 10, 2015 - 04:39pm PT
Yes.. this has been a fun game to watch.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 10, 2015 - 04:55pm PT
Anyone still in a seated position?
I'm running pass routes in my living room
John M

climber
Jan 10, 2015 - 04:59pm PT
ugh.. interception. Patriots will win.

Wow… what a game. I didn't want either team to lose. I couldn't figure out who to root for. That was the super bowl.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 10, 2015 - 05:01pm PT
Congrats New England Patriots.
A beauty of a game.
Has the fat lady sung?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 10, 2015 - 05:01pm PT
They're both winners. Patriots play next week, and the Ravens covered the seven-point spread.
John M

climber
Jan 10, 2015 - 05:03pm PT
can't believe they didn't run out the clock..

one last hail mary for the Ravens..
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 10, 2015 - 05:41pm PT
I'm glad that little gorilla is off the Pats back. I had a pretty good feeling that they would win even through both 14 point deficits, but that last drive was more than a little nerve wracking knowing that the Ravens had four downs to gain 10, touchdown or bust.

Gronk's inexperience at defending the Hail Mary showed; in the replay it shows him cupping his hands to catch the ball. C'est tres dangereux! He did take up a lotta space in there though.

Props to Baltimore, who always play tough in the playoffs. Bring on Denver!
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 10, 2015 - 05:52pm PT
Yeah what a game. Such different strengths. Pats O line so much weaker, no run game, but its so hard to stop Edelman and of couse Gronk.

That lack of PI call on Gronk on a third down was a horrible non call.

The pass from Edelman was a hoot.

Panthers hanging in there so far.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 10, 2015 - 07:58pm PT
Russell Wilson is 8 for 8 on third down?
Isn't that called M O N E Y ?

Hawks now have embarrassed the league in their last
5 games 55-ZERO? Are you kidding me?

Edit:
Ooops, I blinked, make that 62-NADA!
Roughster

Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
Jan 10, 2015 - 08:47pm PT
SEA....HAWKS!!!
Roughster

Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
Jan 10, 2015 - 09:12pm PT
Dave Davis

Social climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 10, 2015 - 09:27pm PT
Kam Chancellor-Wow!
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 10:41am PT
Today's winnner picks:

Packers (only if Rodgers can overcome his injury)
Broncos
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Jan 11, 2015 - 10:57am PT
Hey Tad,

how's life in the recliner? Bloody Mary's on tap again today? I'm there baby!

Now that the Seahawks have advanced to the championship, it's all gravy today. The Chowboys look like the team to beat next weekend.
John M

climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 10:59am PT
Packers (only if Rodgers can overcome his injury)

Yep.. the cowboys seems to have a knack for winning.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 11:04am PT



Yep.. the cowboys seems to have a knack for winning.

You better save that talk for Seattle if the Cows win today.
John M

climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 11:08am PT
LOL.. nah. I'm not a cowboys fan. Except back when Roger Staubach played. They do seem to have a knack for winning.

Plus my family is from Texas. My uncle use to live across the street from Roger. But I like Green Bay.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 11:38am PT
One of my best friends at work was a huge Cow fan and back then I was a Colts fan. Whenever those two teams would play we would pull all sorts of practical jokes on one another for a week ahead , as well as start all kinds of betting pools.

Good times.
Norton

Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
Jan 11, 2015 - 01:18pm PT
Packers Seattle game, next Sat or Sunday and what time eastern?
GLee

Social climber
Montucky
Jan 11, 2015 - 01:26pm PT
Sunday January 18 3:05 PST @ CenturyLink Field......
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 11, 2015 - 02:47pm PT
GLee, you neglected to mention : For the NFL title.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 11, 2015 - 03:06pm PT

For the NFL title.

Not without a Pat on the back first.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 04:04pm PT
Could it be the Bronco's offense has finally showed-up for the game towards the end of the 3rd quarter?

How dare any team ruin my playoff prediction record so far!

Now that the Broncos offense is showing something-- this has allowed the Bronco D to get some rest and now they're doing what they're capable of.but I fear it's too little too late.

This game is over with.
Congrats Indianapolis Colts.
They played some very sound football today.

( I was really impressed with the Bronco's field goal kicker. On two 40+ Yd field goals he looked effortless. Both kicks were perfect.)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 11, 2015 - 04:29pm PT
Could it be the Bronco's offense has finally showed-up for the game towards the end of the 3rd quarter?

What offense?
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 04:32pm PT
The same offense that won 12 reg games
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 11, 2015 - 04:36pm PT
They won 12 games by scoring 13 points? Pretty sure they didn't win one that way.
WBraun

climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 04:37pm PT
Manning ... what a boring one dimensional quarterback.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 04:38pm PT
However many points they put up on any given day they're still the same team.thems is the breaks . That's football.

Werner , you need to keep rooting for #3 rated Oregon Ducks and leave the Pros to thems that knows.!?!


Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 11, 2015 - 04:40pm PT
^^^^^^^^ Thank you, Werner, I was about to say he's the most over-rated QB in history.
Five time league MVP and he has one ring? No wonder he sells Buicks.
WBraun

climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 04:42pm PT
Gimme a J.J. Watts any day over this boring stork .....
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 11, 2015 - 04:43pm PT
Manning ... what a boring one dimensional quarterback.

Didn't he show a second dimension in the Superbowl last year?
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 04:46pm PT
JJ Watts is not a QB
Learn to never compare a defensive end to a offensive QB
WBraun

climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 04:48pm PT
I'll make him into one.

He wants to be one.

The stork manning is going home.

it's over ....
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 05:03pm PT
Broncos have a pretty sucky home crowd .

Just thought I'd throw that into the mix.Alright.
WBraun

climber
Jan 11, 2015 - 05:05pm PT
Can't wait till the real pros start playing next weekend.

J.J. Watts will kick ass ...... :-)
hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Jan 11, 2015 - 05:05pm PT
I'm stoked for next week--I hate every team playing! So in order of contempt:
New England and Seattle--Belechek: Mr. Happy

Seattle: Who'll stop the rain-and I hope it rains all winter long. The Seetles have had an easy play off ride. They beat a sub 500 team.

Indianapolis- I doubt they can beat N.E at home.

Green Bay? They'll need to have a shoot out in Seetle and that will be tough against that D. But they can run and they can pass. The question is can they contain R.Wilson? I hope so.

But what a boring S.B. with New England in it again. Oh Boy! Tom brady threw another 4 yard pass.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 11, 2015 - 05:28pm PT
Just saw the Dez Bryant catch that was disallowed.
Shameful homerism reffing. Just disgusting.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 11, 2015 - 05:32pm PT
^Looked like a catch to me. Pretty sutpid rools.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2015 - 05:26pm PT
QUACK! Ducks by 8, call yer bookie NOW!

Man, that's the crappiest color guard I've evah seen!
Even I was better than that.

Are those refs on the take or are they just blind?
Jeez, Stevie Wonder coulda called that 'fumble'..

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2015 - 05:44pm PT
I think Mariota is the best QB I've ever seen, period.
Unbelievable composure and every possible skill, not to
mention great personal integrity. I wish I was his agent.
WBraun

climber
Jan 12, 2015 - 06:04pm PT
Somebody say DUCKS !!!!

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 12, 2015 - 06:07pm PT
quack!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2015 - 06:58pm PT
Those hillbilly refs from the Big 12 are disgraceful. That so-called interference call in the end zone was bull. They're letting the OSU offensive linemen grab, hook, and hold like crazy.
It would help if the Oregon receivers looked the ball in before turning to run. The Ducks
freshmen d-backs are also costing them. I don't like their play calling either.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2015 - 07:43pm PT
Nice hold on that long running play to start the second half. The fix is in.

Oregon better get a TD from this turnover or it is over psychologically.
OSU is out-muscling them.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2015 - 08:01pm PT
FUMBOO!. Now we're talkin'!
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 12, 2015 - 08:03pm PT
As a rule (guideline?) I never watch college ball, but this game is pretty tolerable.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2015 - 08:07pm PT
I really don't get those Oregon running plays. When your offensive line can't get off the ball
you don't call slow to develop plays which give the D linemen time to penetrate, like on that
first and goal play.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2015 - 08:30pm PT
Ain't gonna happen. The Oregon D line is gassed and being owned. Game ovah.
That last Oregon possession was sabotaged by another crappily designed running
play on first down.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 12, 2015 - 08:51pm PT
Those Pac-12 d-backs are way soft....
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Jan 12, 2015 - 09:02pm PT
Oregon made too many mistakes, and a few bad play calls. Those two drops in the 1st quarter killed them.
But credit to Ohio State, absent the turnovers, their offense was never really stopped by the Ducks D.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2015 - 09:06pm PT
RJ, they weren't as soft as rhey were confused. They didn't look organized and, more
importantly, because they were playing 7 D backs at times they were hung out to dry
by the lack of linebackers when Elliot busted through. The OSU lines owned the line
of scrimmage; good old-fashioned smash mouth ball. That OSU QB is mediocre at best
so I hope he actually gets a degree.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 12, 2015 - 09:51pm PT
College Football sucks because we don't see two good teams match up until the last game of the year.

These two should have played each other in September. But they were too busy playing schools like Ball State and Slippery Rock. And Army.

Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jan 12, 2015 - 10:38pm PT
I agree that OSU was impressive in the win over Oregon, which I thought would win in a laugher victory for Oregon.

The real victory here: is the great football programs outside the South, which hopefully may be spared ESPN & other media touting the SEC as the dominant conference in the US, in the next football season.

Chaz: after a short search, I find that Oregon did play IAA South Dakota in an early game this fall. Otherwise, Oregon & OSU played major conference teams & OSU played Navy as a significant independent.

It's the SEC teams that play two or three small colleges to rest their players & pad their numbers.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 18, 2015 - 11:54am PT
Take the home teams - give the points.

Last time I checked, Seattle was favored by 7 1/2, and New England was giving 7.

I love those half-points, but I'd feel a little better if it were 6 1/2
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 18, 2015 - 12:00pm PT
okay barely finished the National anthem,
all by my lonesome for game one,
as to what and who that's easy.. isn't it ?
the two younge guys will both lose
Seahawks vs Patriots
Tom Brady's swan song?!
in things not climbing related I may return to change that depending on the results!


I think Aron Rodgers is hurt and should sit down.

traded interceptions, what fun this is going to be!,
Pac.
showing no kool at all!
Pac strikes first.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 12:09pm PT
Winner picks :
Seahawks over Packers , But I'd like to see the Pack win

Patriots over Colts.

The unsport conduct against Packers that just happened was an example of stupid football.Right in front of the official. Dumb
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 18, 2015 - 12:23pm PT
the Pacs strike but wait...
John M

climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 12:36pm PT
whoa.. the seahawks dodge two bullets. This could come back to haunt the packers.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 18, 2015 - 12:40pm PT
this may turn out to be a good one, the Pac is getting the bounce that they need . . .
And I'm out of. . . w.
well that and that I've been hogging the tablet so see you after the half .....
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 18, 2015 - 12:52pm PT
Um, will someone please tell the Seattle defense that: THERE'S A FOOTBALL GAME GIOING ON!!!!

I MEAN REALLY?

Hey Nature, what's up????
John M

climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 12:54pm PT
Got a question for those who like the Packers. There was something about Brett Favre that I didn't like. Not sure what. False humility perhaps. Did you like the guy?
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 01:00pm PT
So far it's the Seahawks offense that hasn't shown up.

Favre's personality was abrasive and he didn't smile very much in interviews, but he was Hall of Fame all the way. A top notch QB
John M

climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 01:04pm PT
Abrasive doesn't always bother me. When its put on like a suit of armor I don't like it. Like Rockjox glorifying it, but otherwise it doesn't really bother me. And I do agree he was a hall of fame quarterback.



Seahawks are really digging themselves a hole.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 01:11pm PT
If the Hawk's offense keeps leaving the field early their defense, great as it is, is gonna start getting tired.

Buuuut, the Pic they just got might be the lift they need right now.
If Hawks offense can stay out on the field then we might have a game. Still a lot of football to be played

Seattle with 5 turnovers in the half so far.

Packers D really having a fine game, so far.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 18, 2015 - 01:12pm PT
If you like the weather in Seattle, just wait a few minutes, because pretty soon it's going to suck.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 18, 2015 - 01:25pm PT
I've gotten less neck strain watching tennis games.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 01:33pm PT
No matter how the game is going Rodgers is as cool as a cucumber. The dude has poise. What a great QB
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 18, 2015 - 01:48pm PT
Seahawks are going to need a 13th Man.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 18, 2015 - 02:06pm PT
Well so that was good, lets see, third week quality football by both Qbcks?
I have snuck on to her computer ....
I'm WHIPPED ...Bye
John M

climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:05pm PT
Seattle gets the onside kick.. whoa.. going to be sad for Green bay if they now lose it.

How many of you are still watching.. haha
John M

climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:10pm PT
Seattle takes the lead

2 point conversion. Everything is going Seattle's way now.

22-19.. 1:25 left.. hard to believe.
John M

climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:13pm PT
with 5 minutes to go I thought this game was locked up. man!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:14pm PT
I smell Overtime.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:19pm PT
Really wow!! so cool, but wait...
my wife just sent the kids in to tell me;
"dad cook dinner"
has me on hold
but I will now go see!!
John M

climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:19pm PT
good call Chaz.. woot! I'm glad they came back.

Overtime!
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:28pm PT
That was some game.

Some of you (you know who you are) will appreciate this Rodgers story.

During his weekly radio show in Green Bay, reigning NFL MVP Aaron Rodgers told a story of how he received the first 'F' of his academic career (outside of elementary school) on a paper in the University of California course, which, unsurprisingly, had about ten other football players enrolled. After his study group received a failing grade for incorrectly citing sources in the paper, Rodgers went to talk to his professor about a rewrite and found himself on the other end of a lecture.

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"She went into this tirade about athletes and entitlements and whatnot. She basically picked on the wrong person in the class because I was probably the best student out of the 11 football players in there. I was second-team all-academic at Cal, if you do your research there," Rodgers explained. "She's looking at me, condescending, talking down to me. And she says, "What do you want to do with yourself?"I said, "I want to play in the NFL."She laughed. She laughed at me. It was a condescending laugh and she said, "You'll never make it. You'll get hurt. You'll need your education, and you're not gonna make it through school here."I said, "OK. I don't agree with any of that."I just want to tell this to you today. "Thank you for adding to that chip on my shoulder and I hope that you're a fan."

Well, the professor was correct about one thing. Rodgers didn't make it through school in Berkeley. He left campus without getting his degree at the end of his junior year, where he would be a first-round draft pick in the 2005 NFL Draft.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:30pm PT
I'm sick.



Susan
John M

climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:31pm PT
I'm confused. I thought they played a whole quarter. Not sudden death. I hate sudden death.
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:34pm PT
Are you ready for some FOOTBALL?

I'm ready for some defibrilation!

WOW
John M

climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:34pm PT
stinking sudden death.. bah..
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:35pm PT
CLASSIC!!!!
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:46pm PT
One of the best games ever.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 03:51pm PT
The Packs D and O and special teams all made key errors in that final few minutes Reg and overtime.
The Seahawks had some luck and some heads-up play during that same time frame, especially with their O and Wilson coming alive.
It was a perfect storm for them.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 18, 2015 - 04:00pm PT
They have to be going nuts in Seattle.


They're crazy there at the start of pre-season. I can only imagine the level of insanity now.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Jan 18, 2015 - 05:01pm PT
Boo hoo. Didn't know it would be sudden death either. Mixed it up with soccer rules.
Darn darn.
I just can't get behind the Hawks. Not sure why but I just don't have a resonance with them.
I had a nephew play for the packers a number of years ago so I was hoping....


Susan
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 18, 2015 - 05:23pm PT
The 'hawks are an absolute lock to repeat.

LOL... HAS to be a troll post.

Not even a trueblood member of the "legion of whimper" (as they were in this game) can be that arrogant after that Keystone Cops showing!

The Seachickens were gifted that game.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 18, 2015 - 05:41pm PT
The Seachickens were gifted that game.

Hmmm. Sort of. But by the same token you have to say that the Packers threw that game away.

Maybe it was one of those games that neither team deserved to win.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 06:19pm PT
I'm calling New England Patriots as Super Bowl Champs.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 18, 2015 - 06:35pm PT

colt

/kōlt/

A young, uncastrated male horse.

I dunno, they looked pretty castrated to me..
John M

climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 06:43pm PT
The colts thought they said..

Are you ready for some FOOSball?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 18, 2015 - 06:57pm PT
Super Bowl XLIX - Take New England. Give the points.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 18, 2015 - 07:07pm PT
Maybe it was one of those games that neither team deserved to win.

I'm good with that. Although, I will say that some of the post-game commentary revealed the extent to which Wilson just would not give up and kept his team fired up. I do have to respect that fire and leadership!

Fire and an unwillingness to give up is the essence of greatness, regardless of outcome. Kudos, Wilson.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 18, 2015 - 07:47pm PT


Sorry Y'all and Susan; There is a general warm glow of happiness in Seattle tonight, and it's not just from the legal pot. All games can go all ways, and I was nervous before today's game, and I'll be nervous before the Bowl but: I wouldn't count the Seahawks out of anything.


I like to find forces of evil in opposing teams from New England and Anaheim, so Quote from Wikipedia:
"In an incident dubbed "Spygate,"[21] on September 9, 2007, NFL security caught a Patriots video assistant taping the New York Jets' defensive signals from an on-field location. Jets coach Eric Mangini, a former Patriots assistant, tipped off league officials that the Patriots might have been filming their signals. After the game, the Jets formally complained to the league.
On September 13, the NFL fined Belichick $500,000—the largest fine ever imposed on a coach in the league's 87-year history,[22] and fined the Patriots $250,000. Additionally, the Patriots forfeited their first round draft pick in the 2008 NFL Draft. Goodell said that he fined the Patriots as a team because Belichick exercises so much control over the Patriots' on-field operations that "his actions and decisions are properly attributed to the club." Goodell considered suspending Belichick, but decided that taking away draft picks would be more severe in the long run.[23] Gary Myers, New York Daily News columnist, stated Belichick should have been suspended by Goodell for the Patriots' next game against the Jets.[24]"
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 18, 2015 - 08:08pm PT
I'll be nervous too, but it was a pretty decisive win by the Patriots today, giving up 1 touchdown against the up and coming Colts... oh, they scored a bunch of points too and the game should have been called at the end of the third quarter, it was well over by then.

As for "evil," come on Darwin, it's just a game... oh, and the Patriots didn't really seem to be bothered by the 2007 scrutiny, they did pretty good in 2007 if I recall, though they didn't win the big game.

My nervousness will be about how the Patriots will pull off a win against a good Seahawks club.

You can have your points... Go Patriots!
Osprey

climber
Jan 18, 2015 - 08:37pm PT
Dangeruss Wilson throws four int's and goes to the Superbowl anyway.
Roughster

Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
Jan 18, 2015 - 09:04pm PT
Go HAWKS!
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Jan 18, 2015 - 09:18pm PT
Big bummer for me. No excitement on Super bowl Sunday for me.
Can't get any further West or East so it is nice that both sides of the country are represented but neither team was "mine".

I do bet Seattle is celebrating. That was quite a comeback.

Susan
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 18, 2015 - 09:37pm PT
Pats looked impressive. Pete Carroll will have Wilson ready and he won't
almost beat himself again. The only if is whether they come out too slowly
and rely too much on their D. Hawks don't want to get in a shootout with
the Pats. It should be an excellent game with the Hawks' D prevailing, I hope.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 18, 2015 - 09:58pm PT
If both teams play the game they are capable of, it's hard to call the outcome from here!

Does anybody else think of teams' coaching staff, "I don't get paid millions of dollars a year, and I could make consistently better calls than these guys?" Then, after a loss, the coach is interviewed saying that their mistakes were essentially exactly what I had been yelling for two hours. Yikes! It's maddening.

Of course, sometimes plays just blow up. But it is often the case that I watch defenses using consistently stupid formations that are not working, for quarters on end, and I just think, "How can nobody on staff see what I'm seeing?"

Millions of dollars a year... I just don't know.

LOL... It's just a game, I know.
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Jan 18, 2015 - 11:21pm PT
That fake field goal was awesome!
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 19, 2015 - 12:11am PT
The boys certainly pulled off the improbable.

But while they may have gotten away with that against an injured Rogers, it won't work against Brady; he'll eat them alive unless they come out playing well from the minute they hit the field.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 19, 2015 - 12:38am PT
is bellichick gonna storm off the field again without shaking hands after he loses the superbowl, the little wimp?

hawks give you the most game for your money, but the superbowl will be anticlimatic compared to today's game,



Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 19, 2015 - 01:16am PT
That was the super Sunday ! the Big games.

The Super Bowl will still be a great game. Not anticlimactic at all, the game will not mesure up to the Packers/SHawks game but will be fun.
The Vegas line is nearly equally, SHawks,by 2.5 !
The two teams that played through a very real grind will face off each has strengths and weaknesses.

This could be the Tom Brady swan song. Was His last successful Super Bowl performance
ten years ago?
I think it is his sixth trip and would it be the fourth ring?

The SHawks are going to come out on the attack. that has always been the Pats. weak link the first twenty min. will be telling.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 19, 2015 - 09:18am PT
The Sea Hawks are a shoe-in if the NFL allows Lynch ( the best interview in the league ) to wear his golden cleats...
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 19, 2015 - 10:22am PT
It probably is Brady's swan song, and it will be glorious.

Go Pats!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 19, 2015 - 07:49pm PT
BJ, don't be naive, those refs are professionals at keeping games close, as the NFL wants.
And the network never shows the plays they 'missed'.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 19, 2015 - 08:29pm PT
Well, of course they couldn't keep it close last year, they have to be relatively discrete.
Besides, it wouldn't have been deemed seemly to have the refs changing Manning's Depends.
Osprey

climber
Jan 20, 2015 - 01:56pm PT
The Seahawks will punch the Patriots in the face with their physical style and run away with the Lombardi in front of a loud pro Seattle crowd. Mark it Dude.
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Jan 31, 2015 - 07:37pm PT

GO SEAHAWKS!

The Seahawks logo and name, unlike the other Washington's' team, adds to the spirit and thunder this great team has up here by all people.

http://www.burkemuseum.org/hereandnow

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 31, 2015 - 08:09pm PT
I hate New England.. but they will win.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 31, 2015 - 10:57pm PT
Gotta go with the superior defense and the better running game.
Not to mention Russel Wilson's ability to scramble.

Interesting articles today in LA Times about auto collision rates of teams in
the Super Bowl as well as DUI's. More interesting was that flu deaths
went up in the Super Bowl team cities in the weeks right after the game due
to people double-dipping the guacamole and passing germs on to their homies!
PEOPLE, DON'T DOUBLE-DIP!
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 31, 2015 - 11:06pm PT
The pats secondary can shut down the hawks receivers so the d line and backers can focus on the run from either beast mode or Wilson.

A lot will come down to how well Blount runs. If he has a good game the hawks D will need to focus on him, and Brady will be able to play action sneak it to Gronk and Edelman to make some medium to long plays.

Pats 23 to 20 in OT.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 1, 2015 - 08:02am PT
Willson for SB MVP. Willson with two L's.

The key to the 'hawks winning is having a weapon emerge that wasn't planned for.

Or maybe Norwood has a breakout day.

On the other side of the ball I just don't see NE scoring.

27-17 'Hawks
hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Feb 1, 2015 - 08:13am PT
haters gonna hate- Let it snow out east and rain NW
Go Vikings
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Feb 1, 2015 - 08:22am PT
Pats 34-24

Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Feb 1, 2015 - 08:25am PT
is football season starting?
WBraun

climber
Feb 1, 2015 - 08:57am PT
It would be nice if it goes into overtime both tied.

Then they keep playing all night long into the next morning and everyone finally collapsed on the field drooling with the score STILL tied ......
John M

climber
Feb 1, 2015 - 09:15am PT
nd everyone finally collapsed on the field drooling with score the STILL tied …...

LOL.. reminds me of a tennis match Karl and I and a couple of friends had in Wawona. We played 7 sets and were tied 3 sets a piece when it got dark. We had to line up our cars along the court so that we could continue playing. Total fun. I never laughed so much in my life. Part of thats because we had changed the rules. We played Wawona rules which allowed 2 hits and one bounce in any order. That made for some interesting plays. My friend Mark once tried to lob one over Karl's head. Karl was at the net. His partner Chris was also at the net after making a diving play for the ball. So Karl sees the lob going over their heads and knows he can't get it, so he throws his racket up and hits the ball. The ball drops straight down and bounces and Karl catches his racket and hits the ball to me. I was so overwhelmed by laugher that he had actually hit the ball that I couldn't return his shot.


I have no idea who is going to win this game. I suspect the Pats are but wouldn't put money on it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 10:06am PT
It would be nice if it goes into overtime both tied.

Yes, I hate it when they go to OT with one team leading. ;-)

The Pats' running game will be the key to this game, other than a few individual plays
like a Pick Six.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Feb 1, 2015 - 10:15am PT
Agreed Reilly; but the quick dump offs to the receivers can also be considered as running plays.

I'll be keeping an eye on special teams as well.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 1, 2015 - 12:42pm PT
That probably depends on when the zeebs start drinkin?

Werner, re your lack of knowledge of the game's fundaments...are you a stupid American Conference fan?

Or what?

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 01:01pm PT
Edge, of course but I'm pretty sure the Hawk CB's will be looking to make a Pick Six on one of those dump-offs.

Hocking, don't think the Zebs will need to intercede to keep this game close, as long as
they allow the DB's to play.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 1, 2015 - 01:23pm PT
Lightning bolts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9mH0MA_HxE
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 1, 2015 - 03:04pm PT

IZ Lionel Messi playin' today????

'just sayin'
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Feb 1, 2015 - 03:11pm PT
Pats came out to sabbath.. They're gonna win for sure. ;)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 03:25pm PT
Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth? Hey, we're all down with hiring the handicapped, right?

Oh, and will someone tell Michelle Tafoya that HD is not her friend?

BTW, did you know that the Grand Canyon can hold 9 trillion footballs?
Fully inflated, I assume.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 1, 2015 - 03:35pm PT
"Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth? Hey, we're all down with hiring the handicapped, right?"


Add Dan Patrick and Bob Costas to that short bus.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Feb 1, 2015 - 03:46pm PT
I could care less about the two teams playing but the unlimited wings and pizza at McStiffs in Moab works for me.


Susan
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 03:54pm PT
DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!

Seahawk LB's are either playing too close to the line or reacting too soon
to the run or Brady's play action fakes.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 1, 2015 - 04:06pm PT
The refs gave the hawks their first gift by missing the roughing the kicker penalty...oops...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 04:18pm PT
Oh, please, he barely touched him.

Hawk linebackers are sucking. Hawk offense is too conservative.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Feb 1, 2015 - 04:26pm PT
Go Dodgers!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 04:37pm PT
Hightower is hurt by Lynch's savageness, you can see it in his eyes,
but Belichek won't let him get looked at.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 04:49pm PT
WTF you putting a LB on Gronkowski for? You trying to beat the spread?
John M

climber
Feb 1, 2015 - 04:57pm PT
Ooooh, Katy and Lenny....Super Bowl '15' Illuminati pawnstars !

Give us a good all seeing eye! Some tongue, diamond glitter, triangle hand signs and flames. Show us who your masters are!
Can they top Madonna's show?

OMG dude.. that got me rolling. way too funny.
John M

climber
Feb 1, 2015 - 04:59pm PT
14-14..

we got a close one.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 1, 2015 - 05:08pm PT
Seattles defense spent too much time on the field...They'll probably be flat come the 4th quarter..?
John M

climber
Feb 1, 2015 - 05:18pm PT
whoa.. I see what you mean. Those llluminati have some big..

beach balls. ..
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 05:20pm PT
Did they actually pay for this show?
Why don't they just turn it over to some Brazilian?

I hope the Hawks' trainers are administering smelling salts to Bobby Wagner
cause he got smoked!

Refs did ok except for letting Arrington's hands to the face of Baldwin go.
Apparently nobody in the NBC trucks noticed it either, not that they ever
show up the refs.
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 05:35pm PT
The Pete Rose commercial made me LOL
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 05:36pm PT
I'm happy for Pete.


BEAST MODE!!!!!!!!!!!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 1, 2015 - 05:37pm PT
I left the bar...may have been the dullest first half I've ever watched.

And the snackage was just awful, with no half-time hot grub like last year.

And I just can't drink beer like I once could.

Enjoy the rest of the game, for sure.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 05:48pm PT
That wasn't grounding? Are you kidding me?

Bobby Wagner obviously benefited from the smelling salts! WOOT!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 1, 2015 - 05:53pm PT
SEA ... HAWKS
WyoRockMan

climber
Flank of the Big Horns
Feb 1, 2015 - 05:59pm PT
2 picks so far...
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 1, 2015 - 06:00pm PT
Sea Hawks have over-inflated the ball...cheaters...
John M

climber
Feb 1, 2015 - 06:07pm PT

jeremy lane injury..
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 06:33pm PT
OK, I'm officially nervous. Hawks have to score on this drive, and I don't mean three.

Wow, how do you miss that trip? Time for a makeup call.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Feb 1, 2015 - 06:36pm PT
Go Pats
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 06:38pm PT
The referee brush of the defender followed by touch-down catch was perfection.
John M

climber
Feb 1, 2015 - 06:40pm PT
Wow, how do you miss that trip? Time for a makeup call.

Oh, please, he barely touched him.

heh heh.. :-)
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Feb 1, 2015 - 06:50pm PT
Just walked in the door from a SPLITTER day at Woodson. What are you guys up to?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:01pm PT
Pete Carroll, you're a phukking idiot, period.
You don't get points for being too cute.
John M

climber
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:02pm PT
yep….. that was a bad call.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:03pm PT
2nd and goal at the 1/2 yard line. Let's throw a pass! Dumbest ass play call ever.
John M

climber
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:04pm PT
encroachment.. good grief..
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:08pm PT
Congrats New England Patriots

The Seahawks just ended a charmed post season with a bad play call.

That's football.

All my post season predictions were correct except for the Bronco loss.
hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:10pm PT
good game
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:13pm PT
Marshaun Lynch..." Coach give me the ball.."
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:13pm PT
Stoked
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:14pm PT
pete carroll should resign

But, better than average Super Bowl, that's for sure!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:16pm PT
Game Leaders
NE
PASS: T. Brady 37-50, 328 YDS, 4 TDS
RUSH: L. Blount 14 RUSH, 40 YDS, 0 TDS
REC: J. Edelman 9 REC, 109 YDS, 1 TD
SEA
PASS: R. Wilson 12-21, 247 YDS, 2 TDS
RUSH: M. Lynch 24 RUSH, 102 YDS, 1 TD
REC: C. Matthews 4 REC, 109 YDS, 1 TD

It looks like Brady is believable. It must be the garlic.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:20pm PT
pete carroll should resign

My thoughts exactly, he's lost his cred. He's like yer belayer who's
sparking a spliff while yer taking a monstrous whipper.
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:25pm PT
Cool that Brady set a new Superbowl records for pass receptions!

Well deserved win, but who makes a pass call on 2nd and 1/2 yard with :35 left and 2 time-outs?

Then the off-sides - falling apart...

Good game!
this just in

climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:26pm PT
I heard Pete Carroll will be the next Arsenal coach. Arsene is gone.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:27pm PT
The poor guy that intercepted that lame-ass pass was still in shock...? MVP...? Carroll gets to wear the dunce cap...
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:34pm PT
This commercial cracked me up...

[Click to View YouTube Video]
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:34pm PT
worst is they threw it down the middle. not a fade route to a corner.

edit: it was a good game that went down to the wire.
east side underground

climber
Hilton crk,ca
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:41pm PT
ha ha seahawks your coaches are idiots, f*#k belicheck, Brady and the rest of the cheating patriots
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:41pm PT
Carroll is an excellent coach. He's not going anywhere because of a bad play call. Everyone makes mistakes , that doesn't mean you are suppose to start crying and quit. One bad play doesn't nullify all the great plays that went before ,which got the team there to the Super bowl in the first place

The difference between being a goat and being a hero is just a few inches either way. If the receiver would have caught the ball everyone would be saying how brilliantly Carroll and his offensive coaches called the play. Personally I think Wilson could have made a better throw , but I'm just guessing.

That's football.

Also, Werner is a duck...am I right, am I right ?
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:52pm PT
okay. Your right. But it was a mistake and the world knows that. 2016, here we come!
WBraun

climber
Feb 1, 2015 - 07:56pm PT
Julian Edelman is power house wide out with unreal evasive moves.

It's a shame Sea hawks fuked up in the end.

They where only 1 yard away .....
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 1, 2015 - 08:46pm PT
Insanely bad play call. Just astounding that the Hawks didn't win that game at the end. You've got the Beast who basically doesn't fail (TWICE IN A ROW) to make 1/2 yard, you WANT to suck up every last bit of clock you can anyway, and you THROW... to the INSIDE!?!

Well, hundreds of millions were at stake in Vegas. Who knows what "reality" is?
Dave Davis

Social climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 1, 2015 - 08:56pm PT
This is gonna put some of the locals over the edge. Was a great game other than the final outcome. I agree with Ward that Carrol's not going anywhere. It's always easy to second guess another man's decision, however goofy it seems.
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Feb 1, 2015 - 08:58pm PT
hideous play call at the final moments. Hard to forgive.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 1, 2015 - 10:58pm PT
Butler has to recognize the play get in position and make the catch, dropping the ball stops the clock on the incompletion... his not falling down in the end zone after the interception could have been bad too... a safety would make it 28-26, a free kick from the 20 by the Patriots might be returned close enough for a field goal and a 28-29 Seahawks win...

after watching as many super bowls as I have, the ones with the Patriots involved often come down to some very improbable play being important. While I enjoy the outcome, it was a very close game and could have easily been a Seahawks victory. A rushing touchdown from that position is something like 60% likely... which means that there was a not so bad chance for a stop and the clock expiring.

rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Feb 2, 2015 - 09:59am PT
How about Edelman's hit on Lane taking him out of the game? I thought that sent an early message.

Sounds like the Falcons are under investigation for cheating re stadium noise. Pats, Saints, Falcons, but my guys are clean I just know it because they haven't gotten caught yet.

Pete deserves all the bad press he gets, but at least when he makes a mistake he doesn't hit the ground.

pc

climber
Feb 2, 2015 - 10:03am PT
Still shaking my head this morning but even if we'd won, I'd be bummed the season is over. GoHawks!

steve shea

climber
Feb 2, 2015 - 12:00pm PT
According to the experts he made right call but it went bad. Belichik had his bigs in just for a Lynch run. Carroll recognized the package and made the call with three receivers set. The Pats' Browner recognized the the formation and motioned to Butler to go for the ball. Browner moved so the receivers could not set the pick. Kind of like NBA pick and roll. It worked. The Pats made one more play, that's it. Great game. Carroll said in his press conference, he figured he still had two times out and two downs to run the ball. Bultler said post game they practiced this very goal line defense on thurs. Belichik out coached Carroll. Its athletics! Great Game.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Feb 2, 2015 - 12:02pm PT
^^ +1

EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Feb 2, 2015 - 12:05pm PT
"Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!"
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 2, 2015 - 12:22pm PT
And that wraps up our Monday Morning QB Show.

Nice to see the zebras were sober.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Feb 2, 2015 - 01:13pm PT
his not falling down in the end zone after the interception could have been bad too... a safety would make it 28-26

Actually, falling down in the end zone after the interception would've been the best scenario. Touchback, Pats ball on the twenty, game ends one play earlier.

Great game though. Now the Seahawks know what the Packers felt like two weeks ago when they gave the game away.

That picture above of Sherman is hilarious.
Bet he comes back next season without his pretty pony tails.

Edit: I just watched that play again, you're right Ed, Butler made the pick in the field of play which could've resulted in a safety. All's well that ends well is the way I see it.
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Feb 2, 2015 - 03:23pm PT
"It's a very hard lesson I hate to learn the hard way."

What lesson did Pete Carroll need to learn in order to not make that play call? It sounded to me like Carroll was saying that he got it wrong because there was a lesson that he had not yet learned.

Sorry for you Seahawks fans tough way to lose.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Feb 2, 2015 - 03:59pm PT
The NCAA would never tolerate such garbage

LOL. Go Heels!
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Feb 2, 2015 - 04:59pm PT
this pretty much sums it up ;-)

Osprey

climber
Feb 2, 2015 - 06:38pm PT
YOU GOTTA RUN THAT SH#T!!!
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Feb 2, 2015 - 08:28pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Feb 2, 2015 - 08:41pm PT
LOL "...Richard Sherman's girlfriend gave birth to a wide receiver"
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Feb 2, 2015 - 09:15pm PT
Terrible result but a great game. Best super bowl in quite a while. We need more like this one. A true contest.
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Feb 2, 2015 - 09:20pm PT
I didn't care, or could care about who one or lost. All's I know is that game was great. Total nail biter to the end.
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Feb 2, 2015 - 09:26pm PT
Both teams delivered, that's undisputed! GO SEAHAWKS!
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Feb 2, 2015 - 09:37pm PT
Well, maybe next year. They certainly played well. Both teams deserved to win that one.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 3, 2015 - 12:53am PT
Before the game I was saying Blount and Gronk were reasonably containable and the entire game would hinge on our ability to deal with Edelman. Personally I thought the real insanity was having Simon trying to cover Edelman who was totally robbed of the MVP.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Feb 3, 2015 - 03:15am PT
Seatle definatly needs a bit of work in the class dept.
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Feb 3, 2015 - 08:46am PT
The more I think about it, the interception was so improbable, the Pats had practiced that exact play on Thursday!, Browner knew the play and motioned to Butler, Butler timed and jumped the route so perfectly. It's almost like they knew it was coming ... Let's add that to the list of Patriots cheatgates, those cheaters.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 3, 2015 - 10:53am PT
you forgot to draw the routes the two took to the ball, a triangle!
oh wait, does that make the Kearse/Browner collision the all seeing eye?!

If the Super Bowl is super, that requires great performances from everyone... and Butler's play was a great one, and not just an individual effort but a true team effort that got him on that spot to make the play.

When you watch the video you see so many things happening... like the way Butler drives his left shoulder into Lockette knocking him completely off his feet while catching and protecting the ball...

the Seahawks didn't even know who he was... "that guy made a great play"

for a long time Patriots fan, seeing the defense step up and make a crucial play like that in the big game was a an equally long time coming.

Maybe I'll get to go to SuperBowl L in Santa Clara and see the Patriots play in another competitive game with ?

Maybe L can get me in!
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Feb 7, 2015 - 09:28pm PT
Love the latest deflategate speculation, that only one of the balls was 2psi under (the one that went to the colts sideline?) and the others were all just marginally under 12.5 psi after being inflated at higher temp and deflating in lower temps. Esiason saying that it was a conspiracy of Colts and Ravens to discredit Brady. Weird that I never even heard in the national news that Carolina had violated ball handling rules earlier in the season by warming balls in cold weather game after being reminded of rule before the game, but you know, sex sells. The punishment? A warning. My hero Jerry condemning the cheaters and then admitting that he cheated with stickem, then reaffirming his condemnation of the cheaters. Gotta love our human belief processes. Praise Jesus!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Mar 1, 2015 - 04:10pm PT
a friend of mine asked how long the "SuperBowl hangover" lasts...
I notice it is slightly attenuated... just a data point.

incredible game, it's weird how close the outcome was to being completely different...
...Brady kneeing and taking it all in before shaking Sherman's hand at the end was as eloquent a statement of that randomness as any.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 10, 2015 - 07:13pm PT
Sunday Night Football? It doesn't seem like Sunday. WTF happened to my weekend?
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Sep 10, 2015 - 07:59pm PT
It's good to be Gronk.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 10, 2015 - 08:05pm PT
Yous guys are testing my forebearance - I cut the cable a few months ago.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 13, 2015 - 10:03am PT
Our long national nightmare is over.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 15, 2015 - 10:37am PT
Somebody was ready on Monday night.I didn't see the game but am not surprised at the score.

A link that's several years old. Coach Bolden is still running things.
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2011/09/18/football-coach-enraged-by-jesus-chant/
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 24, 2015 - 04:47pm PT
Terrorism reaches the NFL:

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 24, 2015 - 05:34pm PT
What's with the stupid camera angles?

There was just a blocked punt - but live action missed it because someone decided the best place for the camera was on the turf, directly behind the punter.

TV used to be The Best Seat In The House. But not CBS.
Dave Davis

Social climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 26, 2015 - 10:07pm PT
Pretty hilarious Reilly. I spit my beer out...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 27, 2015 - 04:57pm PT
I told y'all years ago Kaepernick didn't have the smarts.
Look for Da Bears to trade for him.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Sep 27, 2015 - 05:25pm PT
I don't have cable. Just an antenna to pull in free HD sports. Everything else is Netflix or Amazon streaming.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 4, 2015 - 06:52am PT
The games start early this week.

Dolphins - Jets are playing in London RIGHT NOW.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Oct 4, 2015 - 07:45am PT
Am I ready? No, but the World Series will do just fine, thank you.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 5, 2015 - 07:51am PT
Cal 3rd down draw play gains 36 and first.

http://twitter.com/SBNation/status/650680060266065920?t=1&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjc18y&sig=4e1444c817b7b92d2a42286af9cff8100f253404&al=1&refsrc=email&iid=1ca7f47aade54f95a6f77b39b3202c0f&autoactions=1444051190&uid=533402368&nid=244+590
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 18, 2015 - 01:26pm PT
CBS is the f*#king worst.

Broncos-Browns game goes into OVERTIME, and right then CBS switches coverage to the goddamn Chargers game!

WTF? Does the name "Heidi" mean anything to those ass-holes anymore?

Besides, the Seahawks-Panthers game is the one to watch this afternoon - another CBS failure.

TV used to be "the best seat in the house". But who the f*#k leaves a game in OVERTIME?
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Oct 18, 2015 - 02:25pm PT
I was hoping for a tie in the Broncos/Browns game. Neither team deserved to win.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Oct 29, 2015 - 07:02pm PT
Like shooting Dolphins in a barrel.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 29, 2015 - 07:11pm PT
I'd pay big bucks to see a game played without TV timeouts. I bet few
playas would last beyond the second quarter. And this bullsh!t helmet
radio thing is just ridiculous.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 31, 2015 - 09:41pm PT
Programming Alert:

The games tomorrow start at 6:30 AM ( Yosemite Valley time ).

Lions vs Chiefs, live from London England. Not exactly the Game Of The Week, but what the hell?

If you forget to set your clocks back tonight, you'll be an hour early.
philo

climber
Nov 1, 2015 - 06:11am PT
Tonight at 6:30 pm Mountain Time the 6/0 Packers V the 6/0 Broncos at MileHigh on the day that long term owner Pat Bowlen gets inducted in the Broncos hall of fame. Any predictions out there?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 1, 2015 - 07:01am PT
There should be a 6:30 game every week.

It throws off the dogs' schedule, and they're confused. But they'll live.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 1, 2015 - 11:13am PT
Niners over the Rams 3-2 in the 2nd quarter, or is it the 2nd inning?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Nov 1, 2015 - 11:27am PT
Getting rid of Harbaugh really turned it around for the Niners , eh !
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 1, 2015 - 12:11pm PT
Part of the problem is that somebody has to convince Kaepernick to lay off
the ludes on Saturday night.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Nov 1, 2015 - 12:50pm PT
Packers over Broncos. They have a defense AND an offense.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Nov 1, 2015 - 12:53pm PT
Now I need to figure out how to watch NFL network free online. Since they don't have Thursday night football on cbs anymore. Not buying satellite for one game a week.
philo

climber
Nov 1, 2015 - 09:03pm PT
Well now that was something. The Broncos smoked the Packers like a bowl of chronic.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 12, 2015 - 10:16pm PT
OJ will be eligible for parole in two years but maybe the Bills won't need him back?
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Nov 13, 2015 - 05:02am PT
Panthers 8-0
Tigers 9-0

Go Cats!
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Nov 15, 2015 - 04:57pm PT
As a Patriots fan living in Bronco country:


I think Payton is the one playing with deflated balls.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 15, 2015 - 05:52pm PT
Did ys see that retard trip up Amendola on that punt return? Holy phuk, what a moron.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Nov 15, 2015 - 05:53pm PT
Reilly, they were just managing the clock...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 15, 2015 - 08:34pm PT
SEAHAWKS BRINGIN' THE LUMBER!

This better not be reversed or I fear for the refs.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 15, 2015 - 08:46pm PT
WOOT! SEAHAWK LUMBERYARD SALE!

Phuk faking it to Lynch you morons!
Just give him the damn ball!
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Nov 15, 2015 - 09:15pm PT
Wtf happened to hawks?

Tanked it?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 15, 2015 - 09:18pm PT
Whoa. Gotta hand it to the Cards. Great call.
Seattle's offense sucks. Defense can't carry 'em the whole way.
That's their season.
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Nov 15, 2015 - 09:39pm PT
I have not seen such a rigged game since Seahawks vs. the Steelers. And they want $250/ticket for a stadium paid for with public funds.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 15, 2015 - 09:42pm PT
Isn't Seattle still making payments on the Kingdome roof?
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Nov 15, 2015 - 09:58pm PT
It was paid off 15 years after demolition.
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Nov 15, 2015 - 10:20pm PT
Vikings are in first place. Not Green Bay. SKOL!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Nov 16, 2015 - 05:17am PT
Lynch got a bad batch of skittles..Just wait..
monolith

climber
state of being
Nov 16, 2015 - 11:21am PT
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Nov 16, 2015 - 02:37pm PT

Yup!
The US Men's National team plays Trinidad/Tobago tomorrow for
their second World Cup qualifier!

FUTBOL!!!!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 16, 2015 - 07:15pm PT
Seahawks won't make the playoffs, but they're still the best 4-5 team in Football.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 16, 2015 - 07:24pm PT
Hawks need major improvement in O line plus Wilson needs to grow about 3".
I don't think he's really 6'. He needs better targets, too.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Nov 16, 2015 - 08:25pm PT
Did Cincinnati think this was the playoffs?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 16, 2015 - 08:29pm PT
Nobody there was able to perform the Heimlich?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 26, 2015 - 10:21am PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Dec 10, 2015 - 07:59pm PT
Ok, the Cardinals are seriously legit this season. This game with the Vikings is a little too close for comfort. Their running game is amazing.
Sh!t, they just tied it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 10, 2015 - 08:01pm PT
Yeah, the Cards were impressive in Seattle last month. But after what the
Seahawks did to the Vikings last week the Cards aren't impressing tonight.

And how much of a disgrace is the NFC East? If one of those losers wins
that division with a losing record they shouldn't even get a wildcard berth.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Dec 10, 2015 - 08:04pm PT
I'm pretty impressed with the Vikings tonight. Both teams are playing really well.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Dec 10, 2015 - 08:15pm PT
DEFENSE!

YES!!!!!

11 - 2 Baby, 7 in a row.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 17, 2015 - 10:21am PT
Programming note:

Saturday Pro games start THIS SATURDY. Jets at Dallas, 5:30 pm.



Programming prognostication:

Too soon to know yet, but if CBS follows its season-long pattern of choosing the week's worst game to televise, it'll broadcast the Dolphins-Chargers game instead of the Broncos-Steelers on Sunday.

Steelers + Broncos = 18 victories

Chargers + Dolphins = 18 losses

My money says CBS goes with the loser match-up this weekend. Again.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 17, 2015 - 11:03am PT
Chaz..... your probability right on that one... or for some reason we will be watching Tennessee play ??????
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Dec 17, 2015 - 11:13am PT
Seahawks won't make the playoffs, but they're still the best 4-5 team in Football.

That was a great line, Chaz! Made me snort. LOL

Hey, on that note, perhaps there should be a second path to "greatness" for teams like these. You take all the wannabe wildcard teams that didn't make it to the playoffs, and you have "playoffs" among them.

And then you have a second "superbowl," call it something like "The Special Bowl."

It would be fun to see who is the winner among the losers.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Dec 17, 2015 - 11:20am PT
The Broncos have an absolutely astounding ability to lose to teams they should handily beat.

Yeah, the Pats were injured, but so were the Broncs. WHAT team was it that beat the Pats? It was NOT the same team that lost to the Raiders!

The Broncos are LIKE a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 17, 2015 - 12:23pm PT
Well, Pats clinched their division with a bunch of injuries.

See you in the second round, haters.

Seriously, so many people like to hate the Pats. Why? Cheating? Nope. Winning? Yep.

EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Dec 20, 2015 - 02:12pm PT
14-0

Go Panthers!
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Dec 20, 2015 - 06:26pm PT

Congratulations to East Nicolaus High, out of Sacramento, on winning the Div. 5 State Championship.

They squeezed out a hard fought win over the Coronado Islanders in a rain storm.



the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Dec 21, 2015 - 12:26am PT
Our small town school won the division II state championship. A good program can do wonders.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Dec 21, 2015 - 04:07am PT
We are hosting the Super Bowl this season and the new stadium will be easy for visitors to find. Follow the sucking sound to Levi's Stadium.

BigB

Trad climber
Red Rock
Dec 21, 2015 - 06:23am PT
Steelers coming on strong!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 21, 2015 - 07:50am PT
Nothing but crickets from those Broncos fans, eh? Does nobody in Denver work after lunch?

GO SEAHAWKS!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 21, 2015 - 11:57am PT
GO SEAHAWKS!


Oh yeah all the way to the Superbowl!

Again...
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 28, 2015 - 12:35pm PT
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/12/28/10672676/2015-nfl-standings-week-16-vikings-jets-steelers-cardinals-falcons

As a big Broncos fan, I am ready for an end to the nail-biting.

That happens tonight.

Go Denver Go!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 28, 2015 - 05:41pm PT
The only time I ever root for the Bongcos is when they're up against the Raiders, and they rolled over for the Raiders a couple weeks ago. Thanks, guys!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 28, 2015 - 09:03pm PT
17-20 Broncos in OT.

AWESOME in a low-key way.

Osweiler had nearly 300 yds passing.

The party's over, but the real GALA, Post-Season is about to begin.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 10, 2016 - 10:21am PT
Frozen Tundra....

It always killed my Rams in the past.

It will kill these Seahawks ....

It hurts to sit here and watch.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 10, 2016 - 10:39am PT
Bud Grant is wearing a T-shirt, just to remind his team "it's not cold" ...

Fans with no shirts, drinking beer .... Hawks walking around in a daze.

its almost unfair.


johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 10, 2016 - 10:47am PT
I'd like to see some football if they could fit some in between the commercials.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 10, 2016 - 10:55am PT
the Bengals really fuked up last night thank's to a couple of dip sh!ts.

Point gun at foot... pull trigger.

Its the curse of Ohio.

enjoy the game.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 10, 2016 - 12:32pm PT
While I was doing chores, the game was on hold ,
So now I'm back picking up at the sad interseption that came at ten minutes into the second half.
I saw the one handed Seahawks catch, but it is the fate of the west coast teams who can never handle the tundra, oh well
No skin in this one.
Last nights steelers win was absolutely Karmic. In the opening minutes of that game the stripe shirts showed favoritism to the Bengals, man took off his helmet after getting away with a blatant late hit out of bonds on the Steeler side line, then the grey haired hall of fame coach got flagged for?. . . .grabbing an arm? Seemed weak from there on out I'm no fan of either team, although Ohio seemed due, oh well maybe if they grow up by next year will
Show some poise, it will happen for them.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 10, 2016 - 12:34pm PT
GO SEAHAWKS!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 10, 2016 - 12:36pm PT
Yeah, Go Hawks
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 10, 2016 - 12:38pm PT
wow... go to the store to get stuff for Chili.... and its 9 to 10...

a game, yes.

Gome, the Refs last night were horrible... this whole "hit to the head rule" is still not understood by them. (the refs)

I mean players do wear helmets.

Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Jan 10, 2016 - 12:51pm PT
Yeah, and three of seven Seattle players are out with concussions.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 10, 2016 - 01:03pm PT
WOW... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 10, 2016 - 01:11pm PT
Gonna be a rough locker room stint. Woofed a 23 yarder.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 10, 2016 - 01:12pm PT
So again with the favoring the home team
Just before the Seahawks TD on the broken play turned into the set up,
That was a blatant. Head hunting/horse collar tackle as the Seahawks player was already out of bounds & no Flagg?

I no longer watch football with my kids, the level of imbalance maybe just the appearance
Of favoritism in the calls, well more the No calls sends me off the couch.

deffinatly go Seahawks

Edit :
Score 10 to 9 Seahawks @5:49 of the 4th. . .


to say I'm still watching so thems spoilers hurtz, but still. . .
I'm gonna watch it
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jan 10, 2016 - 01:14pm PT
Heart ache. Really heart ache.

But last night's field goal win made me very happy!


Susan
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 10, 2016 - 01:25pm PT
Time to go make another Bloody Mary......


Go Packers.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 10, 2016 - 01:36pm PT
Poetic justice for the BULLSH!T interference call. The receiver runs into the DB and it's not
offensive interference? The DB is not obligated to get out of his way. Wow.
The NFL is so corrupt.

BTW, if you look at the kick slow-mo you can see Walsh mis-judged his
approach to the ball and had to stretch with his plant foot which put him
in a lower angle to the ball which would often result in a push but in this
case I think he over-corrected to avoid that.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 10, 2016 - 01:43pm PT
Too bad it is not in Green Bay.
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Jan 10, 2016 - 02:13pm PT
Go Packers! (vs. Epithets)
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 10, 2016 - 02:17pm PT
I'm starting blood pressure meds one football game too late.

Truth is I'm almost looking forward to the end of the 'hawks season. I really need all the time I can come up with to get my business off the ground.

The comeback wasn't a surprise. Letting them get into field goal range a heartbreaker. But dam... whiffing that 23 yard... I feel bad for the guy.


And as far as last nights game that was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen on the gridiron. Pathetic on almost every level. Since the refs handed the Stealers the SB against the 'hawks I've despised that team more than any other. But last night I was glad to see them beat the Bungles. And Suisham is the only player in the game that can hold his head high. The rest of 'em can suck it.

But now the stealers get to travel from Denver so we all get to enjoy watching them lose.

Rodgers looks like crap. Let's just hope these guys keep it a little chippy with out crossing the line. GB defense looks good - this could be a fun game.


Go 'Hawks!

guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 10, 2016 - 04:07pm PT
I really need all the time I can come up with to get my business off the ground.

Sushi By Nature?

Packers starting to figure it out.... Tribe not out of it yet.

This is a good one.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 10, 2016 - 04:21pm PT
Tribe not out of it yet

Maybe not technically but the Phat Lady is in full voice now at 32-18!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 10, 2016 - 04:24pm PT
Guy - nope.

Imagery, Modeling and Inspection using small Unmanned Aircraft (sUA). Our company has an FAA 333 Exemption which allows us to operate commercially. I'm a written test and a checkout ride from having my private pilots license. We're entering a 5.5 billion dollar market by 2020. I'm $25K in so far - sh#t got real.

http://www.dtaerialphoto.com/

and though that's not exactly what I want to do with this technology it's a start. If I believe one thing it's this technology can save lives - both animal and human. For instance, one of my sUA is equipped with a FLIR for Search and Rescue (I volunteer when it comes to humans).
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 10, 2016 - 04:27pm PT
Looking forward to next weekends Pats game.

Wait, remind me why they're not playing this weekend?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 10, 2016 - 04:33pm PT
They've not said anything but has four road teams ever won all of the WC games?



Cuz the Cheatriots even have it going for them when it comes to seeding. They are one and done, however.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 10, 2016 - 04:53pm PT
Nature
Best of luck with that, looks cool.
Why limited to Boulder, SLC?
Lots of things all over the planet, historical mapping maybe?
if someone has the $$$$$$$ go anyplace needed.

Maybe go work for the Patriots? Get others formations in practice, they will pay for that.



Tribe is cooked, next year for them.




nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 10, 2016 - 05:04pm PT

Thanks Guy. We're only starting there. We also plan to expand to Seattle as we know a few pilots there.

Problem is we're boot strapping this which makes it tough. Especially since i'm still working my day jerb.

And thanks - I'm really excited.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Jan 10, 2016 - 05:15pm PT
Cheatriots.............LOL.



Nature I agree,Pittsburgh did not win that game ,Cincy Lost it.


Good Luck.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 10, 2016 - 05:23pm PT
We also plan to expand to Seattle as we know a few pilots there.

Let me know when you're headed up this way. We'll do some drone testing -- as in: "Let's see if that thing can pick up a beer and deliver it across the yard."

edit: I don't have a TV, but I popped over to Steve & Mimi's place this morning and Watched the Seachickens scratch out that win. Weird game.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 10, 2016 - 05:28pm PT
and once delivered we'll drink some of the best beer you can find anywhere.

Will do!

One of my rigs can lift a gallon of water or a 12 pack. Not sure that's allowed under our blanket COA so this will have to be a non-commercial operation.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 10, 2016 - 05:33pm PT
When you get a drone that can pick me up in Bellevue and drop me (gently)
at Port Townsend then you'll have something.

Seahawks will make Cam Newton look silly next week. The Panthers barely
beat the Hawks in the early season while the Hawks were still in a swoon.
Panthers had a ridiculously weak schedule.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 10, 2016 - 05:38pm PT
Reilly - here you go


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/ces/12086173/Chinese-company-unveils-passenger-drone-prototype.html

Not sure how psyched I'd be to see it kick into low voltage return to launch mode, however. The whole point of these in my mind is to save lives, not risk them!

And yeah, I too expect the 'hawks to make Cam look silly. They are a stout team but that 'hawk defense is championship caliber. Won't be the same game.

34-23 'hawks.


All Road teams won. Wow!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 10, 2016 - 05:59pm PT
DOOD! Nice weed-eater!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 10, 2016 - 06:02pm PT
Multiple props == really loud upside down lawnmower.
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Jan 12, 2016 - 06:02pm PT
About to be official:
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 12, 2016 - 11:41pm PT
Rams go to L.A.

Send the Raiders to San Diego, send the Cardinals back to St Louis, and send the Chargers to Phoenix.

That should make everyone happy.
JC Marin

Trad climber
CA
Jan 12, 2016 - 11:49pm PT
And please, please send the 49ers back to San Fran......
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 13, 2016 - 07:39am PT
Rams to LA again?

Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jan 13, 2016 - 08:46am PT
I hope that after the vote and the owners left, someone at that hotel counted the silverware.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 13, 2016 - 09:03am PT
Do not want the Lambs back.... I got over that bitch splitting town on me 21 years ago. It took therapy, a 12 step program and some electro shock treatments before I could watch football without without crying.

Now she is knocking at the door and wants to waltz back in, no way... at least not without some great make-up sex, a Superbowl win or two...



Looking forward to this weekend games, IMHO its the best weekend, 4 games of pretty well matched teams.

enjoy

crusher

climber
Santa Monica, CA
Jan 13, 2016 - 01:14pm PT
Can we have the Cardinals instead? Please?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2016 - 02:21pm PT
Could we have something that actually generates worthwhile jobs without
an enormous outlay of public funds? I'm not denigrating selling $10 beers
but I really don't think it benefits society all that much.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 13, 2016 - 04:20pm PT
The new stadium is privately financed. The guy who owns the Rams has billions from development and marrying a Walmart heir.

$2B for the stadium and $15B investment in the whole project.

Inglewood can use all the help it can get.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2016 - 04:30pm PT
Oh yeah, now those Inglewood kids have a good incentive to study hard so
they can become beer hawkers. Suweet!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 13, 2016 - 06:56pm PT
A little off-topic here:

'Hawks 27-13
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 14, 2016 - 07:10am PT
Natty, given the Hawks' slow starts and scoring difficulties, I wish I shared yer confidence.
Now, maybe Pete has been having Wilson Rope-A-Dope it, but I doubt it. Hawks 23-20
Keith Leaman

Trad climber
Jan 14, 2016 - 08:24am PT
Nature, best of luck with the new business adventure! I'd like one of those EHangs. Wonder how they would maneuver over a 9,000' mountain range.

Looks like LA might get the Rams and Chargers?

Go 'Hawks!!
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 14, 2016 - 09:06am PT
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-la-chargers-rams-20160113-story.html

Check out the last photo gallery 2/3 of the way down the page. "Photos of the construction taking place in Inglewood at the Hollywood Park site where an NFL stadium could be built."

It's easy to see why this proposal was approved over the Chargers/Raiders one in Carson. Well apart from the back room politics that goes on. This place is going to be NFL Disneyland. They'll move NFL Films and other media entities there. Plus make huge $$$ of the other development there. It'll be interesting to see what it does to Inglewood which is a pretty bleak area. I went to the Forum (right by the site) on New Years and they did a great job on the remodel. The people working there were super cool and I never felt unsafe in the area, but of course didn't travel off the beaten path.
zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 14, 2016 - 06:57pm PT
Spanos indicates that a $350 million public investment in his stadium is insufficient. Estimates are that the actual cost of public contribution to Spanos stadium approaches $1 billion dollars.

2014 attendance for Charger games 523,457 (average = 65,432). Population of SD county approximaely 3.2 million.


WHAT
The
F*u*CK?

Oh yeah, maybe SD could host a Superbowl and that brings how many (marginal) dollars to San Diego?

Go Chargers

to L.A.

So putting all the taxpayer dollars together, we’re talking potentially a public investment of between $881 million and $997 million in a new stadium.

Disclaimer: I did not do the research. I'm just calling them out as I read them.

Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 14, 2016 - 08:29pm PT
And now. Back to football being played this weekend; Broncos over the Steelers; my prediction (usually full of sheet): Broncos 24, Steelers 10.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 15, 2016 - 07:39am PT
I dunno. The Packers offensive line seems lame these days. Rodgers gets the crap beat out of him every game.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 15, 2016 - 09:13am PT
Tad... thanks for the schedule....

Toss up games all of them.

So whats on the BBQ?

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 15, 2016 - 11:34am PT
Thanks Keith!

Sh#t just got really real. My work that I've been at for 8+ years with salary is cutting me down to 20 hours. Essentially that means I'm about to lose 60% of my income.



And to answer the original question - YESSSSS!

Beast Mode looks to be playing. Unknown X-factor for that game Willson.


Go 'Hawks!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 15, 2016 - 12:03pm PT
Seattle's defense fully staffed.

What's that make the over-under on number of footballs the Panthers pass out to little kids in the end zone?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 15, 2016 - 12:14pm PT
Two, if they're lucky. The Hawks will pick the Newt twice.
I'm having a hard time believing Lynch will be in Beast Mode after
such a layoff but his backup has been pretty decent.
Hawks also have the coaching advantage, as long as Pete doesn't
out-think himself.

23-20 Hawks
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 15, 2016 - 01:37pm PT
Tad.... think i'll fly up to you place to eat... LOL....


Brisket (i am getting pretty good at these- figured out how to get the bark, the smoke and the juiciness. It did take me about 1.5 years and about 10 of them turned into dog food to get this down pat)

Red Neck Beans ..... Beef, smoked Ham hocks, Mahogany Smoke house Bacon, and tons of Onions, garlic and more... This made Frummy stop with the vegetarian diet.

Potato Bombs ..... hollow out some baking spuds, stuff with roast beef, blue cheese and wrap with Bacon.

All washed down with copious qty of Sculpin Ale ....



Picks.... Chiefs over Pats, AZ over The Pack, Hawks vs Panthers .... to close to call, might just be epic. and Steelers over Broncos

Yea im ready for some football



tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 15, 2016 - 01:45pm PT
Pats are all beat up. they are fizzeling out when the chiefs are surging...
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 15, 2016 - 02:06pm PT
Sh#t just got really real. My work that I've been at for 8+ years with salary is cutting me down to 20 hours. Essentially that means I'm about to lose 60% of my income.

Sorry to read that nature. Me too, got laid off in 8/15.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 15, 2016 - 02:38pm PT
Tradman you may need to turn in your NE card. Lots of key Pats are coming back from injuries and the others had a bye week to heal. Pats defense has been almost as good as chiefs and their offense have many of their players that make them so dangerous. O line is still weak but Brady will be able to get rid of the ball much quicker with Edelman back and others more healthy. Chiefs offence is suspect. Could go either way but Pats may be themselves again if so they'll make it happen.

Steelers are in trouble with Ben hurt and brown out. Unfortunately.

Hawks are surging. Beast mode is back. That will be an interesting game.

Pack is also a bit in trouble unfortunately.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 15, 2016 - 03:19pm PT
Picks.... Chiefs over Pats, AZ over The Pack, Hawks vs Panthers .... to close to call, might just be epic. and Steelers over Broncos

With Brown out and Big Ben nursing a bad shoulder I simply don't seem the beating the Donkeys even with Noodle-arm at QB.

Love the Chiefs pick!


And it's all good on the job thing. Just need to get DTAP off the ground.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 15, 2016 - 03:22pm PT
Yea, I am curious to see what sort of team the Pats trot out on to the field. The team that put up ~130 yards passing on the Dolphins would get destroyed but the Pats are getting players back while KC lost their #1 WR. KC probably has to win the turnover battle to win. Could happen.

I would like to see Denver lose, but I just don't think that happens without Ben being able to go downfield. Brown out is a huge loss.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 15, 2016 - 06:28pm PT
I would hesitate to count Big Ben out - he's a gamer and does seem to come up big in
big games. The Steelers also got a lot of pride and a stud for a coach. They'll make a
game of it.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 15, 2016 - 09:17pm PT
And man that Bryant catch was incredible. If you do a flip holding the ball on your taint you deserve to win.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 16, 2016 - 01:32pm PT
Take the Home Teams. Give the points.

Easiest week of the season to bet.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 16, 2016 - 01:44pm PT
How does THAT taste, KC?

I don't really care who wins today, but I do like to see a team who wins the coin toss - and decides to kick the ball away - get scored on.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 16, 2016 - 02:31pm PT
Chiefs have 'em right where they want 'em.

Amendola shoulda been tossed
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 16, 2016 - 02:52pm PT
Chiefs need to open their playbook and quit the dumb penalties.
Smith 8 for 15 for 33 yds? Seriously?
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 16, 2016 - 03:24pm PT












(go Pats!)
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 16, 2016 - 03:25pm PT
Right there with you Loran, GO PATS!
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 16, 2016 - 03:32pm PT









(I just have to be careful, living here in the heart of Denver Pony country.)





(Go Stillers tomorrow, too.)
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 16, 2016 - 03:35pm PT
go Pats!

still a whole lot of football, but having Alex Smith play from behind is a good strategy...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 16, 2016 - 04:04pm PT
Who's the offensive coordinator for KC, Forrest Gump?
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 16, 2016 - 04:53pm PT
At least Forest finished. Worst clock management.

Did KC throw the game?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 16, 2016 - 05:00pm PT
who was the team no one wanted to meet in the playoffs?

hmmmm.

good win, hope the defense didn't get too banged up for next week.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jan 16, 2016 - 06:55pm PT
How bout them Packers? Eh!
zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 16, 2016 - 07:00pm PT
Denver for sure. Not to mention it has the best airport.
-Ernie Ladd


Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 16, 2016 - 08:28pm PT
R-E-L-A-X

Somehow it appears we're heading to overtime.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jan 16, 2016 - 08:30pm PT
Yessssssssssss!!!!!

Not to mention it has the best airport.

It's run by DNC. It may have to be renamed to New York or sumting.

Susan
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 16, 2016 - 08:33pm PT
I hope no one took my advice from earlier this afternoon to bet the home teams, because no matter what, there's no way Arizona will cover the seven point spread.

Seven points is a Mafia spread ( 3, 7, 10, 14 ... and don't even dream about getting a half-point on a Mafia card )
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jan 16, 2016 - 08:37pm PT
Oh dear


Susan
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Jan 16, 2016 - 08:41pm PT
Sukkitt
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 16, 2016 - 09:15pm PT
Yeah baby

Bring on them 'Hawks . . .
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jan 16, 2016 - 09:20pm PT

Jan 16, 2016 - 08:38pm PT
That was the most amazing end to a playoff game ever!!!



Yes! The playoffs have been very exciting. Although I was rooting for GB. I had a cousin play for them in the 70s. I didn't watch the Pats game.
The Vikings game didn't work out for me. I don't like the Seahawks.
The Steelers game came out the way I wanted. Now tomorrow...

Susan
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 17, 2016 - 07:57am PT
super psyched for my friends in AZ - what an exciting game!

I'm over exciting close games. time for a Seahawks and Donkey beatdown.

who was the team no one wanted to meet in the playoffs?

they play at 1:05 Eastern. Here kitty kitty kitty kitty...
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Jan 17, 2016 - 08:00am PT
Cats like to eat poultry.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 17, 2016 - 10:01am PT
well it seems the Steelers are decimated at this point... we'll see but I expect a relatively easy Broncos win...

But Carolina is playing well and Seattle will pose an interesting test for them.

It was fun to watch the Pats control the entire game, in a workman like manner, taking apart the NFL's third best (?) defense... there was one mindblowing pass to Edelman where Brady threw the ball down a tunnel of Chief defenders in between the numbers...

practice makes perfect I guess.

Sort of reminded me of last year's SB, especially the 4th quarter where the Pats took apart the NFL's best defense, in both hard-to-score games the defense kept them in... in the SB the defense won the game.

I am looking forward to watching what happens in Denver next week...

what's with the animal names anyway? does anyone know what a sea hawk is? and a Cardinal is hardly a 'Zoni match... they should rename the team the Wrens... and change the team colors to mottled browns, think desert camo... the dark eye mask makes a compelling match to the traditional football mascara... think Grace Jones... or Pris...

just sayin'
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 17, 2016 - 10:11am PT
Good move Seattle. Win the coin toss, and elect to give the ball to Carolina so they can score.

It's stupid every time they do it. What's the point of winning the coin toss?
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 17, 2016 - 10:17am PT
Looks like the Panthers came to play.

John M

climber
Jan 17, 2016 - 10:18am PT
the point is so that you receive at the beginning of the second half. Often puts the other teams defense on the field longer in the second half, which is a big key to a powerful 4th quarter.

Looks like kitty is having bird for lunch

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 17, 2016 - 10:22am PT
Is that worth starting the game behind by a touchdown? Because that's what KC and Seattle both got for giving away the ball after winning the coin toss.
John M

climber
Jan 17, 2016 - 10:24am PT
Another reason to kick is if you have a strong defense and can shut them down early, then you get to play a short field. Ie.. kickoff.. 20 yard line… hold them to 3 and out and then they punt. You get the ball at the 30 or 40 instead of receiving a kick off and averages say you get the ball at the 20. Then you just keep doing that and you get to play short field football.

Of course that depends on your defense. Get beat by their offense and you look the fool.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 17, 2016 - 10:50am PT
Seahawks will make Cam Newton look silly next week. The Panthers barely
beat the Hawks in the early season while the Hawks were still in a swoon.
Panthers had a ridiculously weak schedule.

Are we having fun, yet?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 17, 2016 - 10:52am PT
If this were a normal Sunday, Fox would have switched their telecast over to a more competitive game.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 17, 2016 - 11:04am PT
I was just gonna say the hawks might have a chance still, but. . .


Looks like Cardinals at Panthers, sure to be a better game than the Superbowl.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 17, 2016 - 11:07am PT
When I played.... we always wanted the ball first. Then we would do "the plan"..... kick ass.


You can put a fork into the hawks... they are done.

johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 17, 2016 - 11:08am PT
Gonna be hard for the Hawks to dig out of this one, but the fat lady hasn't sung yet.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 17, 2016 - 11:10am PT
Please stop kicking about kicking or not kicking...it's called FOOTBALL!

Just sayin'.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 17, 2016 - 11:18am PT
did someone mention a beat down?
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 17, 2016 - 11:21am PT
Do you want butter on your toast?
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jan 17, 2016 - 11:44am PT
Just got back from a spin class. I know NOTHING. Shower, then watch.
Rainy Sunday. But I'll go to yoga tonight to either assuage or zen out my exuberance.
Go go go Steelers!
Susan.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jan 17, 2016 - 11:59am PT
Glad I forgot to watch the Seanots. For hard-core fans, here's a not so reassuring fact:

According to ESPN Stats & Information, in the last 15 years, teams that have trailed by 31 points at any point are 0-325. The Seahawks trailed 31-0 going into halftime.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 17, 2016 - 12:05pm PT
Buffalo overcame a 32 point deficit to beat Houston in the playoffs. That was before the two point conversion.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jan 17, 2016 - 01:14pm PT
Good.


Susan
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 17, 2016 - 02:07pm PT
Story of the Hawks' season: too conservative and not focused during first half. I put that
largely on Pete.
Glad I went whale watching instead.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jan 17, 2016 - 02:17pm PT
Go Steelers! Yup. Yup. Yup.


Susan
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 17, 2016 - 04:13pm PT
Wow, can NFL reffing get more suspect? Pretty damn quiet in Mile High!
BwaHaHaHa!
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 17, 2016 - 04:13pm PT
I can appreciate either a good defensive battle or offensive shootout.

This game is neither.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 17, 2016 - 04:40pm PT
Big Ben goes down!

zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 17, 2016 - 04:41pm PT
DENVER si, Steely Ben no!




nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 17, 2016 - 04:43pm PT
wooohooo.... noodle arm takes down the Stealers.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 17, 2016 - 04:43pm PT
Happy Birthday, Rodger!
Dave Davis

Social climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 17, 2016 - 05:21pm PT
Seahawks made a pretty valiant effort at a comeback after not showing up for the first half. I'm not sure they have ever played so poorly on both sides of the ball. Probably Lynch's last game as a Hawk...
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 17, 2016 - 05:56pm PT
Ed Hartouni, tongue in cheek, no doubt, asks

what's with the animal names anyway? does anyone know what a sea hawk is?

From a Seattle fan:
http://blog.nwf.org/2014/01/is-the-seahawk-a-real-bird/

zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 17, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
At Irvine (Anteaters) I hung out with Smallfire Hawk, but he was a man not a bird. Rumour is that he could become a bird, but I never asked him to show me.

Zot? I ain't sayin'.


SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jan 17, 2016 - 06:03pm PT
Wha. Whaa whaa

Susan
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 17, 2016 - 08:05pm PT
Thanks Mouse for the Seahawk explanation, entirely correct. Too bad for my team, though.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 17, 2016 - 08:10pm PT
That was a hell of a comeback effort. They get the onside kick and it's overtime.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 18, 2016 - 07:10am PT
While Ospreys are nice little hawks THIS is a sea eagle, Steller's to be precise.
He would have an Osprey for a snack.

Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 18, 2016 - 09:34pm PT
Go Broncos! (Gloat) Uh...until next week.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 20, 2016 - 01:18pm PT
Anybody interested in the games this weekend?

Broncos versus Cheatriots? Oucome depends on the sort of game we'll see; defensive struggle? Broncos win! Offensive free-for-all? Cheatriiots.

Cardinals versus Panthers? Panthers have an awesome offense, but have given up a lot of points on defense. Cardinals? Seem to be a very balanced team. Hard to pick in this one! I'm calling it a tossup.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 20, 2016 - 01:29pm PT
The Super Bowl, #50 will be contested between the teams whose names start with "P".... jess saying. My prediction only.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2016 - 01:39pm PT
Patriots will beat the Donkeys. Five weeks ago the Cards beat the Seahawks
in Seattle in an impressive manner. The Panthers barely beat them at home.
Cardinals are going to the Super Bowl.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 20, 2016 - 01:58pm PT
For Denver, it depends which Peyton Manning shows up: the multi time MVP with great field savvy, or ol' noodle arm. Also depends on whether Belicheck can get someone to properly deflate the footballs...

;)

I suspect Reilly is correct, and the Cardinals will take the Panthers.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 20, 2016 - 05:22pm PT
It also depends on how much HGH Peyton's wife gives him...

Pats have already won the social media war.

Broncos cornerback Chris Harris Jr. was asked this week how to tackle Gronk, and his answer centered around one glaring weak spot for the tight end. “You gotta hit him low, man — hit him in his knees,”

Gronks response: Heard their whole team is good at giving low blows 😜🏈

I like Peyton but some of the other Brocos are lame. Go after a guys knees who's had knee injuries? That's like saying we're going after Peyton's neck. Weak.

My predictions last week were on. Save the Hawks struggling.

I'm going with Pats and Panthers in the big game. But I wouldn't be surprised if Cards pull it out.
zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 20, 2016 - 06:36pm PT
I'm trying to get over to La Jolla to see who Mitt is picking.



Mitt Romney's [NCAA] bracket ended up in the 99.9th percentile of the entire ESPN Tournament Challenge.

Romney shared his bracket with the Huffington Post on Sunday, and it is absolutely absurd. Here it is, in all its glory. To wit: Mitt correctly picked 23 round of 64 games, 10 round of 32 games, and six Sweet 16 games. After the Sweet 16, he picked every Elite Eight, Final Four and national championship game winner correctly.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 20, 2016 - 08:50pm PT
The Peyton Manning HGH story has been thoroughly discredited by the source: Al Jazeera; the accuser has withdrawn the tale, and there was no evidence other than an accusation--probably as an attention getting device.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2016 - 10:31pm PT
Yeah, well something has to explain his flogging Buicks.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 20, 2016 - 11:04pm PT
What about the other well placed source for "Ashley mannings" hgh?
But manning wasn't one of the 7 broncos busted for PEDs since 2012 right?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 24, 2016 - 12:41am PT
The spread:

New England favored by 3 over Denver, Sports Authority Field at Mile High, Denver, Colorado.

Carolina favored by 3 over the Cards, in Charlotte.




The second game's easy: Take Carolina, and give the points.

The first game: I want to take The Home Team AND the points, but that's what The Mafia wants me to do, so I'm going the other way.
Take the visiting Patriots, and give the points.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 24, 2016 - 06:44am PT
So, the state bird of North Carolina is . . .




















































The Cardinal!
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 24, 2016 - 09:51am PT
As much as I'm a big Broncos fan, they will have their hands full this afternoon, stopping Brady and Gronkowski. If it does happen to rain as is forecast (showers), that will be advantageous for Denver's running game.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 24, 2016 - 10:13am PT
If it does happen to rain as is forecast, that will be advantageous for Denver's running game.

“Bill read off a stat today,” safety Devin McCourty recalled. “I think it was 10 games where they rushed over 100 yards — they won nine of them. That’s a great stat for an offense and I think it’s big for us to go out there and play well and stop the run because when they run the ball well they usually win. It’s kind of a direct correlation for us that we’ve got to make sure we go out there, play well in the run game. I think that will set up the rest of our defense.

“If they’re able to run the ball and get five or six yards on a first down, move the chains on a second down, it will be a long day for us because they have a quarterback who can drive the field and make plays, make the right decisions to score points on us. I think we’ve got to try and get them behind and try to play good defense on first down and not let them just pound us and be able to pound the ball.”
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/ron_borges/2016/01/borges_how_peyton_manning_makes_broncos_run_game_even_better


edit: Yes, indeed, Ed, it's still just a silly game, like climbing.
Neat reminiscence--thanks!
It will be fun watching, no matter what happens,
if only to scratch that itch to see if Noodles can bring it one time!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 24, 2016 - 10:47am PT
it seems rather interesting that there really isn't any good analysis of who might win or loose, or why...

in the AFC both teams are significantly banged up. significant because the play of various talented individuals might tip the scale to the advantage, or disadvantage of their team.

weather is another factor all together, and while it is common to assign advantage to the running game, the Patriots' offense doesn't seem to be too much affected by the weather. I don't know enough about the Broncos', but Manning has never been a good foul weather footballer.

it might not even be a great game if the weaknesses of one team are exposed early. but we'll soon see. most coaches will admit that it's up to the players... and while coaches are responsible for preparing the teams for the games, the players have to execute and adapt...

so in a couple of hours we'll see.

it is odd that tribal instincts seem so strong, I've never fully understood how this is, but have sensed it. In 2003 I bought tickets to the three games played in Oakland for the AL playoffs (note the change of sports). My daughter thought I was crazy since she didn't see it lasting for 5 games, the A's were streaking hot that year and the Red Sox were the Red Sox... the first two games proved her point, both losses for the BoSox. I went climbing that weekend, crazy act number two which I explained as not caring what happened as only one outcome would be satisfactory, that the Sox win both games in Boston forcing the last game at the Coliseum in Oakland for our viewing enjoyment.

The Sox delivered, I got to climb, and we were going to see baseball to decide who was going to go on.

Pedro was facing Barry Zito... The A's got on the board in the 4th, Manny hit a 3 run home run in the sixth, with 'Tek also helping out with a home run... the A's chipped away and had the bases loaded in the 9th. Williamson walked Hatteberg and Guillen and was pulled and replaced by Lowe, who was not a happy camper that season (and left the next). A sacrifice bunt advanced the base runners to second and third with one out.

The Colliseum was full 49,397 attended, and the A's fans sensed victory. Lowe struck out Melhuse (who batted for Dye, never understood that move) walked Singleton to load the bases. The first pitch was a called strike, I couldn't see home plate too well, looking down from the third base side...

...the Oakland fans were going crazy throwing Babe Ruth candybars into the Boston dugout...

second pitch was a ball, the third pitch was close enough to be fouled off, 1 ball, 2 strikes...

and then the most amazing thing I've ever experienced in watching sports happened.

The entire stadium went quiet for the 4th pitch... and it was totally quiet, 49,000 odd people, you could feel the straining attention on the next pitch, but not a sound.

Lowe delivered the pitch, the ball popped in 'Tek's glove, the umpire called "strike", Lowe pumped his arm and we covered up our Red Sox clothing and made for BART... I never saw the alleged rude gesticulation that Lowe was accused of making towards the Oakland dugout... but everything was chaos at that point... and maybe the fist pump had more on the upswing than was allowed in polite company.

Even though Fevered Pitch told me not to say this, it is just a game. In Oakland, the team seems to morph by the month during the season, so few players are there a long time (though there are a few).

So it is tribalism without tribe members... same in football.

I root for the Patriots because they were the first pro football team I ever saw play, in their first year in the AFC. And 20 years of truly terrible teams have given way to a nearly 20 year dynasty that will end with the retirement of either Brady or Belichick, and that will be within the next 5 years for sure. I even remember some of the old team...

but it is still just a game.

So have fun, and hope for some really good football. The Patriots of late have giving good games... let's see if the Broncos can deliver. If they do, we'll have a game worth watching.

Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 24, 2016 - 11:25am PT
This is actually football at it's finest: the best playing the best. I'm also pulling for the Cardinals, and keeping this as a Western US championship series.
d-know

Trad climber
electric lady land
Jan 24, 2016 - 12:46pm PT
Go broncos!
American football
is lame but my
granny is from
denver and a
die hard
broncos
fan.

So that's
my team.

How do
you pick
yours?
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 24, 2016 - 01:26pm PT
Defense wins championships! Go Broncos!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 24, 2016 - 01:32pm PT
Neither of these teams stands a chance against either of the NFC teams.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 24, 2016 - 03:33pm PT
How the hell did the Broncos get away with double covering Edelman AND Gronk?
Shouldn't that leave at least one guy wide open?
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 24, 2016 - 03:35pm PT
Go Broncos! Super Bowl!!
fragglerockjoe

Trad climber
space-man from outter space
Jan 24, 2016 - 03:40pm PT
Go Denver
Go Carolina!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 24, 2016 - 03:41pm PT
what a game... we'd still be playing if weren't for the missed point after... that's close.

both defenses were pretty awesome.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 24, 2016 - 03:44pm PT
Now I'm picking Arizona. Don't know how much more cheap excitement I can stand. Denver-NE was definitely memorable.
fragglerockjoe

Trad climber
space-man from outter space
Jan 24, 2016 - 03:47pm PT
I got a dollar to bet on Carolina
John M

climber
Jan 24, 2016 - 03:56pm PT
And I would add,
at this level BIG Business, it's all about the buck Chuck.


seems like they would have spread the playing times out a bit. we almost had an overtime game to watch.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 24, 2016 - 04:43pm PT
Panthers are looking great! Cardinals suck...
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jan 24, 2016 - 04:50pm PT
I'm struggling getting into this 2nd game. Neither team is "grabbing" me. I went into it rooting for Arizona. Hopefully they can do something exciting.

I've never been a strong Broncos fan but I detest NE so I'm pleased with the result.
And it turns out I now have some Colorado friends coming to our local Super Bowl!

Susan
zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 24, 2016 - 04:52pm PT
Like Ed said, good defenses. Should have taken the under on that over/under of 44-45.

johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 24, 2016 - 05:29pm PT
Palmer needs to get it together.
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Jan 24, 2016 - 05:50pm PT
Great win by the Broncos! That fierce pass rush allowed the to double Gronk and Edleman. They only rushed 4 most of the time and hit Brady often.

Funny to see Jim Rome call out the classless Seattle Seacocks during the CBS pregame - Richard Sheman's are you mad bro and Doug Baldwin's bathroom end zone celebration in last year's Superbowl. What a disgraceful thing to have done in front of millions of viewers around the world. Surprised they didn't mention Bruce Irvin's ejection as well.

Unlike the Seacocks, the Patriots displayed great sportsmanship at the end of a hard fought game. That is one class organization.

GO BRONCOS!
zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 24, 2016 - 06:39pm PT
Palmer needs to get it together.

U$C


Shades of Reggie. Someone is coming clean about CP's payola and his Heisman is going back?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 24, 2016 - 06:41pm PT
Poor Denver. Carolina is going to destroy them just like 'Hawks did two years ago. And I'm not exactly a Panther fan. Might even end up the same score.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 24, 2016 - 06:45pm PT
So, given that the Seahawks and Cardinals are both pretty good football teams, what will happen in the Super Bowl? 70 to 0? 200 to 0?
john hansen

climber
Jan 24, 2016 - 06:50pm PT
Panthers look pretty good.

Paul, I agree about NE, after the game I saw at least six or seven Pats talk to Manning. Including Belichik, Brady, and their defensive coordinator.

Like Ed said,, one PAT,, and who knows. Good game.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 24, 2016 - 06:52pm PT
Ghost - 43-8
zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 24, 2016 - 07:00pm PT
Yeehaw


monolith

climber
state of being
Jan 24, 2016 - 07:06pm PT
Looks like the year of the Panthers.

Manning can at least go out getting his team to the Super Bowl.
zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 24, 2016 - 07:21pm PT
Google has paid $3 Billion for the rights, but for 2016 they are lending them to someone else.

So, welcome to the 2016

"Federal Reserve Bank Super Bowl 50"
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 25, 2016 - 12:46pm PT
As a lifelong, diehard Broncos fan...this looks to be the year of the Panthers. Totally awesome play, both sides of the ball.

That said, I'll still be rooting for my Broncos! The way they played NE was a surprise, as was how poorly the Cardinals executed against Carolina. Turnovers usually aren't good for a team, and stupid turnovers allowed a big momentum surge for the Panthers. (Trying to run with a punt before securing the ball?). Forcing an early turnover after a big play to near the red zone? Other than the stupid backwards pass by Manning and Hillman's mistake in not covering it up, the Donkeys played a mistake-free game.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 25, 2016 - 03:42pm PT
Broncos defense really was effective against the Patriots. Impressive. And Peyton looked good and even scrambled off a decent run at 17 mph. They earned that win. It was a good game.

I was rooting for the Cardinals (I'd like to the see the guys who've been around a long time, Arians, Palmer, Fitzgerald get their shot at the SB) but knew the Panthers are just firing all on cylinders right now. That was NOT a good game. Blowouts are boring.

I'm hot n cold about Cam. Sometimes he's way too cocky and talks low class to be "cool". But after the game he was well spoken, respectful, and made it about the team, not himself. And the whole giving away touchdown balls to kids thing is AWESOME. The little blond girl last week just lost her mind, so cute!

So I'll be doing the same thing in the SB. Rooting for the Broncos, knowing the Panthers will probably take it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 25, 2016 - 03:49pm PT
Yeah, I hate to admit it but he is showing some class. I wish the Seahawks
had a QB who could see over the defensive linemen, let alone knock 'em down!
zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 25, 2016 - 07:07pm PT
2015-2016 College Basketball Season Is Complete Chaos

In January of 2016 alone, top-10 teams in Division 1 college basketball have lost 14 times. The current No. 1 ranked team in the country, Oklahoma (18-2) has lost twice in the month of January (109-106 to Kansas on 1/4, 82-77 to Iowa State on 1/18). In all, five No. 1 teams have already lost during the 2015-2016 college basketball season, the first time such a case has occurred since 1949.


I've always been more of a round ball fan than foosball, but doncha get the feeling that these so-called sports are getting way more attention than they warrant?

.




EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 26, 2016 - 07:45am PT
Now there's a petition to ban Cam Newton from Century Link Field.

http://www.supertopo.com/inc/postreply.php?topic_id=1266197&tn=1660

LOL

pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Jan 26, 2016 - 08:26am PT
Can people stop with the conspiracy theories why the New England Patriots lost to the Denver Broncos? I am a huge Pats fan and can be seen and heard screaming at the TV every Sunday when they are on (I live in SoCal). Here is WHY they lost. 1. NO RUNNING GAME, 2. 2 INT, 1 at a very crucial time, 3. Von Miller, 4. Opting NOT to kick a field goal in the 2nd half when their D basically owned the Denver offense. Kick the field goal, kick off, stop them again, march in for a TD like they did, game over 22-20. The Patriots got out coached on Sunday. That is it. Go Pats!!

PYRO
JC Marin

Trad climber
CA
Jan 26, 2016 - 08:31am PT
^plus the Denver D put the hurtin' on Brady knocking him down like 20 times. Not sure I've ever seen Brady rag dolled like that.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 26, 2016 - 09:58am PT
I wish the Seahawks had a QB who could see over the defensive linemen, let alone knock 'em down!

You mean like the Forty-niners?
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 26, 2016 - 11:23am PT
I'm from New England and a Pats fan from way back. But I wasn't too disappointed in that game. It was a good, competitive game. Broncos defense was on fire. Peyton played well. And as mentioned too many mistakes by the Pats.

I don't know enough about the Broncos and their defense to really know how they can stop the run, but it seems Stephen Jackson was effective on that TD run. He had a few runs stopped after that, but it seems they should have tried the power running game a few more times to see what they could do with it.

And the Pats were really missing Dion Lewis. James White just isn't as quick and dependable. Too many wasted downs trying to get him going.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 26, 2016 - 12:59pm PT
No, Ghost, he also needs a brain, which Cam Newton appears have.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 26, 2016 - 01:06pm PT
I'm still good with shorty and he's 4k+ passing yards as well as QB rating - both team records.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 26, 2016 - 01:08pm PT
Well, Shorty is a good person and he has a brain, although apparently it
hasn't been programmed for four quarters, yet.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 26, 2016 - 01:12pm PT
Two good quarters outta him is better than four quarters outta 2/3rds of the QBs in the NFL.

Though I think to be fair it's been the run first mentality. and when that doesn't work shorty starts hucking it. With what appears to be the retirement of lynch and a WR squad that is no longer pedestrian next year should be different. maybe we'll see 2.5 quarters.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 26, 2016 - 01:17pm PT
Those were some good games.... unless you were rootin for the Cardinals.


If the same Denver Defense shows up... Denver will have a shot at winning this. The Panthers do have Cam...a much different animal than Carson Palmer.

PM is not going to hand it over because of getting panicked, he is to good and seasoned to do that.


to early to predict, lets see who heals up, who gets arrested before we plunk down $$$$$$$$


whats the line now 3.5??? to close

the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 26, 2016 - 01:23pm PT
It's funny when someone (5'11") who is 1.5" taller than the average American male (5'9.5") and is considered "shorty".

It's even funnier when you see a 5'8" running back next to a 6'6" tight end.

At least in Football, at least there's some positions which don't require only tall people.

I always liked Wilson because I'm the exact same height. I think it's awesome that someone who "shouldn't be there", is.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 26, 2016 - 01:24pm PT
wasn't that the line two years ago?

I'm thinking the same result.

Maybe Cam will get arrested and the Donkeys will have a chance.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jan 27, 2016 - 01:25pm PT
I'm just hoping for a good, competitive football game I want to see "The Sheriff" walk off into the sunset with his head held high from a great final game to his awesome career. I just don't see Peyton risking it all for another year. He has enough money to last 10 families a lifetime or 2.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 27, 2016 - 01:51pm PT

SUPER BOWLL!

Brought to you by Chevrolet.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Prediction:

A blow-out, Mustangs 49 - Corvairs 0.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 1, 2016 - 02:50pm PT
Well, looks like I misspoke about Super Bowl L. I had no idea the NF had dropped the L and subbed #50.

This should make the LEO boys happy.

http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/features/why-the-nfl-ditched-roman-numerals-for-super-bowl-50-20160201

"Make book, Danno."
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Feb 2, 2016 - 11:22am PT
Going to Super Bowl Party at my daughter's house for Sunday. Bringing lots of alcoholic beverages to either celebrate the Broncos victory or drown myself after defeat. Either way, I have a hangover....
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 6, 2016 - 07:03am PT
1. LAMBEAU FIELD — GREEN BAY PACKERS — 80,735

This is truly the NFL’s only historic gem, the only one that would appear on a sports bucket list. All the other stadiums are either new or concrete bowls from the 70s that have concourses as narrow as Aaron Rodgers’ passing lanes. There’s really nothing more exciting to an NFL fan than hearing “January game at Lambeau.” Also, as an aside: Green Bay has just 25,000 more residents than that capacity of Lambeau Field, which — mind blown.

25. QUALCOMM STADIUM — SAN DIEGO CHARGERS — 70,561

“A dump” without any “panache” full of “apathetic” fans who “won’t give two shakes of a rat’s tail” if the team “moves to Los Angeles” is how Qualcomm was described to me by a San Diego resident
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Mar 6, 2016 - 12:37pm PT
Eli still uses Omaha. Classy for Peyton to retire on top.

I can't imagine qualcomm is worse than Oakland. That place is a dump and horrible design.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Mar 29, 2016 - 09:56am PT
Looks like the Washington Redskins are finally changing their name.

Their old name was offensive to lots of people and brought to mind all sorts of negative connotations.

So now to avoid the association with politicians they will now be called the Maryland Redskins.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 29, 2016 - 10:00am PT
A more truthful name would be the Washington Prevaricators and their mascot could be a large slug.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 29, 2016 - 06:41pm PT
Broncos QB situation depends on Kaepernick?

Apparently. Seriously hampered by the salary cap this year in finding a good enough candidate to replace the AWESOME (but now retired) Payday Manning, Mr. Elway-in-Chief has work to do.

http://www.9news.com/sports/nfl/denver-broncos/broncos-mailbag-who-will-be-the-qb/108835787


Since the Osweiler snub, the Broncos have re-signed running back C.J. Anderson on a deal that will pay him $6 million this year, and added right tackle Donald Stephenson for $6 million in 2016 pay and left tackle Russell Okung for $5 million. That’s $17 million. The Broncos offered $16.5 million a year to Osweiler.

As they sit here today, the Broncos rank 32nd in the 32-team league with less than $2 million in salary cap space.

So the Broncos cannot afford Kaepernick at his current 2016 rate of $14.3 million (which is comprised of an $11.9 million salary, a $2 million roster bonus and $400,000 workout bonus). To be clear, a trade for Kaepernick does not happen unless Kaepernick reduces his 2016 money.

In fact, that’s the biggest hang-up to a potential deal. It’s such a hang-up the Broncos and 49ers have not even seriously exchanged trade proposals involving draft picks. For now, Kaepernick’s $11.9 million salary is guaranteed. It officially becomes guaranteed Friday but the 49ers won’t cut him because Kaepernick is not healthy. He has injury protection in his contract and recent surgeries on his left shoulder, left knee and right thumb. Ka-ching!

The Broncos need Kaepernick to think long term. He can either, one, collect $12.3 million this year but follow the lead of Robert Griffin III and sit out 16 games. The 49ers would probably sit Kaepernick rather than pay him the additional $2 million roster bonus that’s tied to the game-day roster. Or, Kaepernick can play 16 games at a reduced rate for the defending Super Bowl champs. With Kaepernick at the helm, the Broncos would be a top five favorite to win Super Bowl LI.

And then Kaepernick cashes in big in 2017. For now, Kaepernick wants out of San Francisco but does not want to take a pay cut. Eventually, he will realize he can’t have both.
--Matt McNeil



Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 29, 2016 - 06:54pm PT
Eventually, even he will realize he can’t have both

There, I fixed that last sentence.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Sep 8, 2016 - 04:08pm PT
Season opener tonight, GO BRONCOS!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Sep 8, 2016 - 04:13pm PT
They are going to have a tough time repeating. Not sure Trevor is the answer but I suppose he throws better balls than the ducks Manning was tossing at the end of last year.

Happy for all my friends that are Broncos fans around here and looking forward to an ass kicking of the Panthers. I want to see Cam pout again.


Go Seahawks!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 8, 2016 - 04:58pm PT
Go Seahawks, indeed! Although where they're going without Beastie
is the million dollar question.

Oh, Go Huskies!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 8, 2016 - 05:37pm PT
Our long National nightmare is over.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Sep 8, 2016 - 07:05pm PT
Wow! This is just like the last meeting. 😎
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 8, 2016 - 08:55pm PT
Wow! Before the game I would not have bet on the Donks to win, new quarterback, and all.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Sep 8, 2016 - 08:58pm PT
Better game than the StuporBowl.

Both teams were surprisingly offensive.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Sep 8, 2016 - 09:09pm PT
Maybe the Broncos can be something this year after all. Cam was impressive and always dangerous. Bronc-def was lackluster, imo. Broncos will get better on both sides of the ball. But their play was good news here in Denver. Siemian showed amazing poise and intuitions. We're smiling here. :-)
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Sep 8, 2016 - 10:37pm PT
Good game, Broncs! Right down to the last second. Hardly gets any better.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 11, 2016 - 05:24pm PT
When I suggested Beavis & Butthead write NBC a new football song, I was just joking. I didn't think they'd actually do it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 11, 2016 - 05:31pm PT
Looks like the Seahawks' offense is as offensive as it was last year.
Didn't see the game but I don't think the Dolphins' D is that good.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Sep 11, 2016 - 08:35pm PT
Great game in the Valley of the Sun.

Nicely balanced, complete game by the Pats. QB controversy brewing?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 12, 2016 - 08:19am PT
Controversy brews most Monday mornings in season.

The Raiders squoke by yesterday. This ties them with the Broncos & Chieves in the West.
And over a delicious El Cap omelet, I learned of this tough loss by El Capitan HS over the weekend.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 19, 2016 - 06:24pm PT
My stomach can't handle Da Bears after that Seaskwacks game.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Sep 19, 2016 - 06:39pm PT
I'll be watching once the Red Sox finish off the Os.

Porcello is one out away from a complete game four hitter, win 21 on the season.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Sep 19, 2016 - 07:48pm PT
At least Chicago has the Cubbies this year.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 19, 2016 - 07:53pm PT
He's a stud, and a smart one at that.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Sep 22, 2016 - 06:09pm PT
It's almost criminal how many QBs New England have, and how McDaniels adjusts the offense to suit.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 22, 2016 - 06:27pm PT
Well, Edge, it's like the old Boston offensive coordinator Whitey Bulger
was fond of saying:

"It's just business, ya know what I mean?"
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Sep 22, 2016 - 07:46pm PT
End of the third quarter and the Texans just made their first play on the New England side of the field.

Houston will sleep with the fishes.


Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 25, 2016 - 05:14pm PT
Sorry, Hocking, you're only batting 50% today cause the Seahawks played their
varsity squad, finally, or are the Niners that bad?

Speaking of which, the Lambs can't even get a break from Ma Nature even
though Pete Carrol gave them one last week by playing the JV's.

What the hay happened to the Steelers? Did anyone call 911?
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Sep 25, 2016 - 09:35pm PT
I was worried that my Broncos would be down the tubes this year without Peyton Manning, but their new rookie QB dude threw 4 TD passes against the Browns in Cleveland today. So far, they're 3 W and 0 L.
Gilroy

Social climber
Bolderado
Sep 25, 2016 - 09:46pm PT
Kubiak is a genius in handling quarterbacks. He and Elway are looking good so far choosing the rookie to start. Go Donkeys!!
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Sep 26, 2016 - 08:07am PT
Brokedown, I agree, except that it was the Bengals not the Browns. Ahhh, those Ohioans, they all look alike! :-)
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 2, 2016 - 06:24am PT
Programming alert!

Today's games start at 6:30 AM ( Yosemite Valley Time )

Colts - Jaguars in the UK on CBS
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 2, 2016 - 07:50am PT
GO HUSKIES! What?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 2, 2016 - 08:16am PT
"The new rookie quarterback dude..." NOT!Brokedown, shame on you!

Too bad for Z. The ape man is swinging along nicely. Siemian? Seimian?
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Oct 2, 2016 - 08:19am PT
Ready for some football?

Yesterday was phenomenal.

Go Heels!

Go Tigers!

Go Vols!

Go Michigan!

Go Lamar Jackson! Sorry you lost.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 2, 2016 - 12:38pm PT
Holy Jeebus! What did somebody put in the water at the Bills' training center?
The Pats were 1 for 12 on third downs? Are you kidding me? Maybe they
do need that Brady boy.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 2, 2016 - 01:08pm PT
ugly loss by the Pats, who managed to keep the Bills to 16 points, but didn't have any answer on offense...

yes, TB12's return will be very welcome, going 3 and 1 is better than the initial expectations, the Pats generally learn a lot from their defeats...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 2, 2016 - 01:32pm PT
Raiders are rolling!

Seahawks seem to be hitting their stride! Suweet!

Neiners 14
Cowgirls Zip!

There are two franchises drifting perilously close to the Bearly Mendoza Line.
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Oct 2, 2016 - 02:49pm PT
Don't forget that the Seahawks usually look good at the beginning of the season. They'll choke again in the playoffs. Legion of boom? Remember 31-0 at halftime last year? Tom Brady dissects them late in the 4th quarter the year before?

Cowboys have a bright future with their new QB Prescott.

Lynch in for the Broncos. He looks good!

Go Broncos!

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 9, 2016 - 01:32pm PT
^^^^certainly everyone is entitled to an opinion... and the free expression of it...

On another note, seems like the Patriots are back with their third quarterback of the season, who displayed a bit of rust, but managed to navigate the offense to a solid win.

Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Oct 9, 2016 - 03:05pm PT
The fact that Brady can come back after missing four games and zero practice with his receivers, only to throw for 400+ and 3 TDs, just proves that he is another pedestrian Belichek system quarterback...

Apparently the Falcons are unaware of the 'no fly zone' over Denver's secondary?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 23, 2016 - 06:11am PT
Programming alert:

Today's pro games start at 6:30 AM California time.

The Rams are in London England to get beat by the Giants.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 23, 2016 - 11:33am PT
Wait, the Lambs scored a TD?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 23, 2016 - 12:00pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 23, 2016 - 01:48pm PT
The Browns are almost halfway to a perfect season!
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 23, 2016 - 02:02pm PT
Early line at Caliente has Utah over Washington
-El Capitan

BTW zBrown has a perfect picking season so far, no errors to export!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 23, 2016 - 02:09pm PT
Utes haven't seen a D line like Washington's yet. They have a good run game
but no air attack so we'll be able to pinch in a bit tighter. Browning WILL
light up their secondary and when their LB's drop off to cover then Gaskin
and Coleman will burn them. We've outscored opponents 200-24 in the first
half and Browning has thrown 26 TD's with TWO INT's!

Huskies by 17
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Oct 23, 2016 - 02:11pm PT
Patriots already have 11 first downs against 10 total offensive plays by the Steelers.

14-0 in Pittsburgh.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 23, 2016 - 05:24pm PT
I don't know why it bothers me so much, but NBC's football song is the absolute worst.

Carrie Underwood's a hell of a singer, and to give her a turd like that stupid Sunday Night Football song to sing is like making Lewis Hamilton drive a Dodge.

Jesus!
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Oct 23, 2016 - 06:43pm PT
We have a hockey score going up in the Valley of the Sun; 3-0 approaching halftime.

I'm glad to see the Vikings fall, so the media can drop the whole 'undefeated' thing. They looked quite pedestrian today.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 23, 2016 - 06:47pm PT
D-Backs are up 3-0 on the Mariners.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 23, 2016 - 08:04pm PT
Effing Mariners' offense SUCKS!
Four first downs in a whole game?
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Oct 23, 2016 - 09:11pm PT
That's a nice tie you're wearing, Seattle and Arizona.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 23, 2016 - 09:15pm PT
OF COURSE!

GAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

I'll take the tie.













































And some Pepto


Go 'hawks!
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Oct 23, 2016 - 09:18pm PT
Seattle chokes again.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 23, 2016 - 09:19pm PT
If the 'hawks are serious about winning this year they need to ship a 2nd round pick to the Browns for Joe Thomas. That would turn a shaky offensive line into at the very least a solid one. The inside guys are maulers. Week spot is the LT. Gilliam should be playing better. He did play RT last year and was more than serviceable.



Edit: Both teams choked. Seattle never should have had the chance to choke. Tie feels almost like a win. But not really.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 23, 2016 - 09:20pm PT
I couldn't take any more of it - too painful. Before the game C Michaels was exclaiming what
"a brainiac" Wilson is. Well, maybe he is but that doesn't necessarily carry over to the game.
He locks in on receivers, if he can even see them over his linemen, and holds the ball too long. Of course, it would help if they had a running game and if the NFL refs weren't such homers.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 23, 2016 - 09:22pm PT
Sorta hard to use your "brainiac" when the left side of the O-line crumbles like soggy graham crackers
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 23, 2016 - 09:37pm PT
I think that was a great game.

Not the best played - by a long shot. But a good game to watch.
Game Four of a day that started before it was light out going to the bitter end of overtime is as good as it gets.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 23, 2016 - 09:40pm PT
Granted, but there are things like traps, delayed handoffs, and screens that can compensate,
if not capitalize, on that porosity, to a point. I also put a good portion of this on Pete and his
OC. What, three or four of those linemen are new, right? I have to believe they have the
physical skills so are they too dense to figure things out or are Pete and his OC making things
too hard for them?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 23, 2016 - 10:05pm PT
Their starting center is Britt who started RG last year and RT two years ago. He seems to be settling in and getting the line calls right.

Their LG is Glowinski who is in his second year and only played one game last year. He's a mauler and part of a bright future.

Ifedi was drafted in the 1st round and is the RG. He got hurt late in training camp and I think this was only his 3rd game. He's got a wicked nasty mean streak. He'll be the starting RG for years and years.

Gilliam is back at RT but was suppose to move to LT. Guess he regressed a little bit. undrafted rookie 3? years ago.

Sowell is the starting LT but he's just overmatched. He went out near the end of the game and was replaced by Fant who is a project convert from the DL. This is why they should/could be tempted to go after Joe Thomas from Cleveland. Not sure he's ideal for the zone blocking scheme but if he is he'd be worth the 2nd pick from my arm chair GM position.

a lot of people bitch and moan that they didn't invest in their line. I'm not one of them. If they invested in the line than that defense wouldn't be as talented.

They also just went up against a fast and talented defense.

The line play will get better. Hopefully before RW is broken into two pieces. and speaking of... his high ankle sprain and MCL sprain are still a factor. He makes everyone better when he can run. Which clearly he cannot.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 23, 2016 - 10:08pm PT
Thanks for the excellent beta. My attention is monopolized by my Dawgs. ;-)
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 23, 2016 - 10:28pm PT
7-0
#4
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 23, 2016 - 10:41pm PT
Like best QB in major college football - 26 TD's against 2 INT's!
Gonna pummel #15 Utah Saturday. OK, so the Pac 12 is weak this year but
the Dawgs are legit. They would destroy Clemson or Michigan and we just
might get to see how Bama fairs against a legit pro type offense, albeit with
a few Boise St tricks thrown in.

signed,
OG Husky letterman
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Oct 24, 2016 - 12:20pm PT
Last night featured the #4 and 8 defenses and some pretty established, above average quarterbacks.

Tonight's defenses rank # 2 and 6; with lesser QB talent. I'd wager on a scoreless tie if it wasn't for the huge potential for pick-6's.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 30, 2016 - 06:31am PT
Programming alert:

The Pro Games start at 6:30 AM today, Yosemite Valley Time.

Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Oct 30, 2016 - 11:55am PT

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 30, 2016 - 01:32pm PT
Browns are half way through a perfect season!

Seahawks continue to unimpress.

Pats - "It's just business."
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Oct 30, 2016 - 02:15pm PT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 30, 2016 - 03:06pm PT
RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!! (if yer into that sort of thang)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 31, 2016 - 07:28pm PT
Da Bears are rollin'! I think this could be a cosmic convergence
with Da Cubbies!

Does anybody have a quicker release than Jay Cutler?

BTW, raise yer hand if you've seen Da Bears at Wrigley Field!
Me! Me! Me!

More Bears in Da Hall of Fame than any other team. RESPECT!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 5, 2016 - 09:08pm PT
Dawgs looking past the Bears. Pretty sure that's Aaron Rodgers in Webb's
uniform.
zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 5, 2016 - 09:14pm PT
Woof woof

Barely handledUtah

Could be the night W loses that #4 spot

Pee Wee Ross is mighty quik
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 5, 2016 - 09:21pm PT
I'm looking forward to Washington & WA State meeting for the Apple-cup in late Nov., which is an annual, mutual hate-fest game.

Hopefully, both will still be un-defeated in Pac-12 play.

Go Cougs!
zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 5, 2016 - 09:27pm PT
I'd heard it called the Road Apple Cup.

GoBears
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 5, 2016 - 09:34pm PT
Husky D will assert itself in the second half. We will run the ball down
their throat in the second half. It won't even be close. Utah was much
more physical. Those guys were tough. Da Bears are talkin' shite without
having the game to back it up.

Cougs can score but their D sucks. They barely got past Oregon St.

BTW, how bout Navy putting a hurt on Notre Dame today? Proud!
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Nov 5, 2016 - 09:55pm PT
The Raiders are showing so much promise this year!

Big game against the donkeys tomorrow will illuminate where they are really at as a team . . . should be interesting, if of course, you are in to that sort of thing.

I really am not a big football "fan" either, the Raiders, however were never a conventional team and I grew up in the Bay Area watching them play.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 5, 2016 - 10:07pm PT
What did I tell y'all? 49-20
zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 5, 2016 - 10:15pm PT
^ well from now on I'm gonna buy lo and sell hi

I can live with Washington

If it wasn't for Rep. Bob Wilson who my dad met in the war I'd probably been born there


And who can forget Jimi.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 6, 2016 - 03:23pm PT
Niners standing in there against the Aints!

What's become of the Packers? Down by 14 to the Dolts at home? Hoh, man!
No amount of Old Milwaukee can fix that!

Browns still purrfect - meow.

Rams and Pussycats engaged in a scoring fest - 7-0 after 3 quarters.
Newton is another NFL QB bust from the SEC.

GO RAIDERS!!!!!

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 6, 2016 - 03:26pm PT
How come no one gets to watch the decent game?

You got the 49ers. I got a choice of either the Rams or the Chargers. Rams have the stupidest coach in the League, and the Chargers are just bad.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Nov 6, 2016 - 03:43pm PT
None of today's games seem very interesting; with the Patriots on a bye week I just watch games where I want specific teams to lose. (take that, Pittsburgh! Step it up, Green Bay!)

I'm most interested in tonight's game.

Go Raiders!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 6, 2016 - 03:46pm PT
Niners need more than a dead goat. I just don't get why teams continue to
get QB's with more legs than brains. It's no longer debatable that yer legs
will get you out of trouble but they won't get you much further in this league.
Ya gotta stand and deliver the ball!


BREAKING NEWS!
The Rams scored a field goal with 3 minutes left! Pour it on, boys!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 6, 2016 - 04:07pm PT
The Rams would have just tied the game, if Jeff Fisher hadn't stupidly gone for it on fourth down in the first half instead of kicking an easy field goal.

They did the same stupid thing a few weeks ago, which cost them the game, and afterwards Fisher said something like "that's just who we are" when a reporter asked him how anybody could be so f*#king stupid.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Nov 6, 2016 - 04:28pm PT
Why Oak. and not Denver?

I just can't get my arms around the team or any of the players. As a 50+ year Pats fan, I built up a love-to-hate thing with PFManning, so when he was brought in I transferred those emotions. Lord Vader says I am getting stronger in the dark ways of the force.

I also listen to a bit of sports radio, but the one and only station in the area is all Broncos, 365 days a year. Rockies win a double header? Nuggets win in overtime? All buried in the 27th minute after full coverage of an off season Bronco hangnail. It's obnoxious. Besides, they fear Tom Brady and call him 'Uggs.' That parts just pathetic. Try a couple years of yapping about Tim Tebow and John Fox after surviving the Boulder floods and its a wonder I didn't use an ice pick to the ears.

If I'm going to live in Colorado as an ex-pat Patriots fan, I at least want a relevant rivalry for the local team; something to make blood boil and bones crack like the Raiders/Broncos of old.

So yeah, go Rrrrrrrraiders!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 6, 2016 - 04:36pm PT
Yeah, Chaz, Jeff Fisher will never be confused with Belichick.
I think he thinks he's coaching in the Mid-Atlantic League, or Kanada.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 6, 2016 - 04:42pm PT
The Vikings? They're in a horrendous tailspin.
Da Bears are gonna roll with a healthy Cutler and a newly discovered RB.
zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 6, 2016 - 04:43pm PT

Just in. Chargers are still ahead. Two minute warning.

You have been warned.

The origins are from the days in the NFL when the official game time was kept by a member of the officiating crew, with the stadium clock being unofficial. Its purpose was a checkpoint to ensure that the teams knew how much time remained in the game. Since the late 1960s the NFL stadium clock has been official, but by then television was an important factor in the NFL, so the two-minute warning was retained as a commercial break and to serve as "tension building" time, and thus has become an important part of the game's flow


The Chargers won. Beat the spread = 4. O/U 47. Huh?
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Nov 6, 2016 - 05:49pm PT
So I have to ask, can any of you Bay Area peeps explain this? Is this the current style there?

scaredycat

Trad climber
Berkeley,CA
Nov 6, 2016 - 06:14pm PT
totally rooting for the Raiders against the Denver Geldings. I know I'll pay for that, probably when the Broncos come back and kick ass, but I will still will be rooting for the Raiders. It'll be sad for me when the Raiders leave Oakland.
zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 7, 2016 - 08:15am PT
Washington's "Pee Wee" Ross is from Long Beach, Jake Browning is from Folsom

What's a mother to do?

Interesting that they only list weights, not heights (in what I saw)

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 7, 2016 - 09:10am PT
The only reason we got Browning is that he wanted to play for an offensive genius who could
make him an NFL QB. He is almost there as a soph - 34 TD's vs 4 INT's? SICK!

While Ross has the burners I think Pettis is a better all-around receiver. He's tough enough
to run crossing routes and take the punishment. He's got better hands, too.

That Darnell kid at USC is looking really good, too. Should be a good game. UW 45 USC 27
The bad news for SC is our two ace injured LB's, Victor and Wooching, are expected to play.

What happened to the Super Bowl champs last night? Oh, yeah, they played a really good team!
Is Derek Carr that good? I think he is. Is the Raider D that good? Um, sort of but the Donkees'
offense is offensive. Zilch running game and while Siemian is smart, he did go to Northwestern
(I was the first in two generations not to go there-where's the skiing?), he doesn't have that
great of an arm.

Is Sea Sqwab on the menu tonight? They should easily take care of the Bills at home but
they've already lost a number of gimme games.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 7, 2016 - 06:14pm PT
Wow, we got us a ball game in Seatoo! Great to see a healthy Graham!
Really impressed with Bills' O line. Bills really scored picking up Incognito! He's a stud!
zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 7, 2016 - 06:26pm PT
Pettis, San Clemente.

Funny, Ross listed at 190, Pettis at 188

(Jake @ 209)



Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 7, 2016 - 07:03pm PT
Holy crap! What did Jimmy Graham have for lunch?
He is sick tonight!
Seahawk D is coming to life. It's ovah.

This ref crew had phunny mushrooms for lunch. Disgraceful.
zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 7, 2016 - 07:12pm PT
blocking from the back/rear
-Downtown Brown (born August 7, 1948 - jeez we're all getting old)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 7, 2016 - 08:11pm PT
Bills' secondary is just awful! The rest of the team is pretty good although I'm not that impressed with their QB.

Dumb challenge, Pete.

Respect to Buffalo - for a team with no passing game they made it interesting.

Seahawks' O line less than impressive - passable pass protection but zilch run blocking, not that having a running back named Cristine is likely to strike fear in opposing defenses.

Richard Sherman, along with the zebras, should have been ejected.
zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 8, 2016 - 09:52am PT
Cuba Si, Robots No? (apparently Columbus chose the americanized spelling of robots).


Mark Cuban: I Banned Those ESPN Reporters To Win The War Against Robots


http://deadspin.com/mark-cuban-i-banned-those-espn-reporters-to-win-the-wa-1788686916
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 12, 2016 - 04:59pm PT
Dawgs bite first!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 13, 2016 - 10:17am PT
Thanks a lot RAMS, for ruining L.A. TV Football.

Instead of televising one of the many good games going on right now, our only football choice in the Entertainment Capital Of The World is Rams vs Jets.

Five minutes in, and I quote one of the TV announcers "Both teams are bad, but the Rams are especially so".

So why even televise that sh#t? This isn't Thursday night.
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Nov 13, 2016 - 02:09pm PT
Yeah, regional programming sucks. Up here in the Northwest, we are force fed the most annoying team in the NFL, the Seacocks.

I am looking forward to the game tonight. Hopefully Seattle tries to have a little class this time. Last time they met in the Super Bowl we had Baldwin pretending to take a dump in the end zone and a sore loser getting ejected with a b'jillion people watching.

Go Broncos!

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 20, 2016 - 08:56pm PT
Browns really have a shot at a perfect season. Neiners looking impressive! Packers just blow!
Russell Wilson caught his first TD pass. Another Pats-Seahawks Super Bowl?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Nov 20, 2016 - 09:09pm PT
Niners still have a chance...Be patient..!
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Nov 21, 2016 - 09:55am PT
What kind of football?

Go Raiders. And 49ers

Go Barca.

Go Celtic.

And San Jose Earthquakes, and I guess the Seattle Sounders and Vancouver Whitecaps.

And it's nice, Nice is top of Ligue 1. Great town.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 21, 2016 - 06:06pm PT
Looks like the NFL didn't give away enough tickets in Mexico City. I'd say
Azteca is only 60% full.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Nov 21, 2016 - 06:10pm PT
Hey Reilly

come down around my town, Wexford Youths (what an effing crap name) are being relegated.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 21, 2016 - 06:17pm PT
I'd love to Paddy, I love 'lower' division ball!
I likes Wexford, too! I stayed at a farm near Wexford. The farmer 'imported'
a certain crop from France. ;-)

Osweiler is showing why the Broncos let him go: slow delivery, no mobility,
elevator doesn't go to the penthouse.
zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 26, 2016 - 07:44am PT
St.John Bosco looked good last night. High school ball is much more interesting to watch (IMO?).

http://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/varsity-times/la-sp-centennial-st-john-bosco-20161125-story.html

Big Michigan day.

Michigan over Ohio (4 dead right?)
Michigan State over the Sandusky nitwits


Mich game is a cliffhanger double OT



johntp

Trad climber
socal
Nov 26, 2016 - 01:24pm PT
Ohio State for the win
zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 26, 2016 - 03:19pm PT
Quite a game - OT's are strange.

On another front. As of November 25, 2016

Ron Dayne, Wisconsin, 6397
Ricky Williams, Texas, 6279
D.J. Pumphrey, SDSU, 6127
Tony Dorsett, Pittsburgh, 6082

Local D.J. Pumphrey likely gonna move up to #1


NCAA list sports-references.com list

Ron Dayne, Wisconsin 6,397 1. 7,125 Ron Dayne, Wisconsin

Ricky Williams, Texas 6,279 2. 6,526 Tony Dorsett, Pitt

Tony Dorsett, Pitt 6,082 3. 6,279 Ricky Williams, Texas

DeAngelo Williams, Memphis 6,026 4. 6,245 Charles White, USC

Charles White, USC 5,598 5. 6,026 DeAngelo Williams, Memphis

Travis Prentice, Miami (Ohio) 5,596 6. 5,596 Travis Prentice, Miami (Ohio)

Cedric Benson, Texas 5,540 7. 5,589 Archie Griffin, Ohio State*

D.J. Pumphrey, SDSU 5,383 8. 5,540 Cedric Benson, Texas

Damion Fletcher, So. Miss. 5,302 9. 5,387 LaDainian Tomlinson, TCU

LaDainian Tomlinson, TCU 5,263 10. 5,383 D.J. Pumphrey, SDSU

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 27, 2016 - 01:34pm PT
The Browns scored a TD!

Neiners actually came close and Super K played pretty well. Who knew?

Seahawks off to their usual slow start. WTF?
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Nov 27, 2016 - 03:24pm PT
And the NFC frontrunner - the 10-1 Cowboys!

Seacocks looking inconsistent like usual.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Nov 27, 2016 - 05:55pm PT
I certainly hope the NBC camera operators are rolling up big phatties while that blond waste of bandwidth is singing that embarrassing song. I can't figure out any other purpose for including it.

No offensive TDs in Mile High tonight, I betcha.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Nov 27, 2016 - 07:16pm PT
We don't have a television, but I do like good football, so, once in a while, instead of catching fifteen minutes at the bottle shop, I beg an invitation to a friend's house for a full game.

Like today. Seahawks at the top of their game facing the rapidly improving Buccaneers -- gotta be the game to watch.

Boy, was I wrong. What a shitfest. Seriously, if I was a Buccaneer, I sure as hell wouldn't brag about beating the Seahawks. At least not whoever it was in Seahawks uniforms that was on the field in Tampa.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Nov 27, 2016 - 07:50pm PT
I got to watch DJ Pumphrey play at SDSU 2 years ago San Diego...That guy is tiny but fast...
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Nov 27, 2016 - 09:28pm PT

Doink!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 27, 2016 - 09:30pm PT
WTF was Kubiak thinking trying a 62 yarder in that air? The cold more than offsets the altitude.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 4, 2016 - 10:49am PT
A minute into quarter #2, and The Patriots have covered the two-touchdown spread.

Out of the eight pro games going on right now, FOX decides to televise the biggest mis-match of the week.

And the NFL wonders why its ratings are in the shitter.

I feel sorry for THocking, though. Every time L.A. gets stuck with a Rams game, he has to watch the 49ers.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 4, 2016 - 10:53am PT
Pretty boring season. Could we just get on with it and hold the Pats-Cowboys Super Bowl now?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Dec 4, 2016 - 11:07am PT
SJB ( my alma mater ) clobbered Mater Dei last night at Angel stadium to win the CIF southern section cahmpionship...
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 4, 2016 - 11:33am PT
"The Patriots have run more plays than the Rams have yards."

 one of the TV announcers at halftime.





30 million TVs within range of the transmitters atop Mt Wilson, and FOX squanders it by televising crappy Ram games every week.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 4, 2016 - 11:38am PT
Letters to the LA Times are verging on terroristic threats agin the Rams' management.
One guy went off about $100 for parking! Are you kidding me? You couldn'y pay me $100 to go see those clowns!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 4, 2016 - 11:48am PT
Go Pats!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 4, 2016 - 11:49am PT
Everybody thought "I'll go see a Rams game" when there was talk of bringing the Rams back to town.

Tickets are over a hundred dollars each, and parking is another 100. A Rams game will set you back a thousand dollars!

Last time I saw anything at The Coliseum, it was a Dead concert. I paid $10 to park at an apartment complex up the street. For $10, The Hoover Street Crips watched over my car, so it was safe while I was at the show.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Dec 4, 2016 - 11:55am PT
Doesn't the Rams new market have legalized recreational Mary Jane now?

There's got to be a solution here. Bud (not weiser) vendors in the stands for starts. TV viewers need to make a game out of it and take a bong hit every time the Rams get a first down; you might get a good buzz going, but nothing too intense.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 4, 2016 - 11:58am PT
Went to a Trojan-Huskies game a few years ago and the official parking was like $20!
The NFL is a criminal organization.

20-3 Pats with 3 min left in the third? Is Brady playing with one eye closed?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 4, 2016 - 11:58am PT
"TV viewers need to make a game out of it and take a bong hit every time the Rams get a first down"



What are you trying to get us to do? Quit?

I don't think The Rams have any first downs yet today.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 4, 2016 - 06:05pm PT
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 9, 2016 - 10:08am PT
FINAL SCORE: Chiefs 21, Raiders 13

The Chiefs are now 10-3, but won the season series against the Raiders, which puts them in first place in the AFC West.

Will the AFC playoff path run through Kansas City?

It’s starting to look that way.

Derek sucked yesterday.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 9, 2016 - 10:31am PT
Old skool frozen tundra smash mouth football the way it is sposed to be!
Poor little Raider receivers couldn't hold onto that cold little ball!
Hank Stram liked it!
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Dec 9, 2016 - 12:35pm PT
I don't have any fondness for the Raiders. But as things stand, the Raiders are 10-3 and the 5 seed in the playoff standings and would play on the road.

The AFC south leader is 6-6 and would play their first game at home.

I think this seeding by divisional winner is crap. Good chance Denver, or another team, has a better record than the AFC south but misses the playoffs.

Until proven otherwise, I think the AFC playoffs go through Foxboro.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Dec 10, 2016 - 03:02pm PT
Army ahead of Navy 21 to 17 with 6:00 in the 4th, Navy won last 14 games!
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Dec 10, 2016 - 03:14pm PT
Army wins takes a knee!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 10, 2016 - 03:51pm PT
Man, my Middies have collapsed the last two games, but this really SUCKS!
Proud effort by the Black Knights - full respect.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 11, 2016 - 01:31pm PT
Ten seconds in, and The Falcons have the point spread covered.

Thanks a lot, FOX. For televising another turd game ( when the obvious game to watch is Seahawks in Green Bay )
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Dec 11, 2016 - 02:16pm PT
the obvious game to watch is Seahawks in Green Bay

It's a good 'un. The Pack just took advantage of a turnover and scored a TD. 14-3.

Since we have no cable available in the mountains, we have to use satellite. We ordered the NFL package so as to watch all of the Patriots games, and can surf between any game we want.

Snowy Sundays would lose all meaning if all I could watch was the Lambs.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 11, 2016 - 02:44pm PT
It's a lot like watching the Harlem Globetrotters, with the Rams playing the part of the Washington Generals every week.

I'm trying to figure out which one of the Falcons is whistling "Sweet Georgia Brown" right now.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Dec 11, 2016 - 03:52pm PT
Well I thought I was watching Seattle v Green Bay, but my satellite seems to be broadcasting the Pack against the Browns...
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Dec 11, 2016 - 03:57pm PT
LOL Edge.

4 interceptions. 3 points. The Browns aren't that bad.
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Dec 11, 2016 - 10:17pm PT
Amen . . . GBTRaiders!
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Dec 12, 2016 - 07:59pm PT
I think that was Cyrus Jones' last chance on the Patriots.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 12, 2016 - 08:15pm PT
Bet Edge is a bit on edge - Ravens have made a game of it. Good 4th quarter.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 15, 2016 - 05:45pm PT
It's Rams vs Oregon Ducks tonight.

Ducks are favored by two touchdowns.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 15, 2016 - 05:47pm PT
I was ready for some football, just not sure the Seahawks are.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 15, 2016 - 05:58pm PT
My Dad's probably monkeying with the tint and color wheels on his Magnivox right now, trying to get the picture right.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Dec 15, 2016 - 06:39pm PT
The last time I saw that color, I was laying face down in a puddle of my own vomit in some unknown persons darkened dorm room, following the Great Hawaiian Punch Party at the women's dorm, New Hampshire Technical Institute, 1981.

Best forgotten, like this game.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 15, 2016 - 06:42pm PT
It is good if your picking up trash at the side of the road. At night...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 15, 2016 - 07:01pm PT
Sea Squabs have lost their mojo, especially to be leading the Lambs by only a TD at the half!
SHAMEFUL!
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 15, 2016 - 07:08pm PT
New Hampshire Technical Institute, 1981

From my two years in NH I think I recall that being sort of a locals-only version of Dartmouth, am I right?
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Dec 15, 2016 - 07:25pm PT






From my two years in NH I think I recall that being sort of a locals-only version of Dartmouth, am I right?

More like a Faber College


https://goo.gl/images/Z9R5uS
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Dec 15, 2016 - 07:59pm PT
Looks like Kermit the Frog playing quarterback for the Seahawks.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 15, 2016 - 08:10pm PT
Wilson can only get the ball to Graham once in 3 quarters? Really? I take no solace from this game.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 15, 2016 - 08:45pm PT
I finally tuned into Seattle/Rams late in the 3rd quarter. After a few minutes of eye adjustment for Seattle's Chatruse costumes, I enjoyed the laugher.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Dec 18, 2016 - 09:50am PT
Resting up for the Patriots v. Broncos after an early morning, 5 degree walk in the woods and snow.


Go Pats!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Dec 18, 2016 - 10:31am PT
Fritz...Osha forced Seattle to wear the high visibility clown costumes...Something about workers comp lawsuits..?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 18, 2016 - 09:32pm PT
Pats v Broncos...

old school game
and the starkest contrast between what a "team win" is, comparatively

the Pats gave up 3 points, they had won the game at the half... who knew...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 18, 2016 - 10:02pm PT
Broncs are done. Browns looking gud! Chiefs really choked.
The route to the SB passes through Foxboro and Dallas.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Dec 20, 2016 - 12:43pm PT
Security guard caught masturbating to cheerleaders at the Charges game? WTF!?

65,000 people there and he thinks this is a great place to rub one out?

When asked for a quote he said "Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, ‘cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time."
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 20, 2016 - 06:27pm PT
The product is beginning to fray around the edges and the TV ratings show it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 22, 2016 - 02:18pm PT
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- Austin authorities say a woman's exuberance over the
Dallas Cowboys winning their football game Sunday night led her stepson to
fatally stab her. Court documents reviewed by Austin television station
KEYE (http://bit.ly/2haZSxm ) show Magdalena Ruiz was ''gloating'' about
the Cowboys' victory over Tampa Bay after watching the game on TV with her
husband. Detectives say her stepson, 20-year-old Pontrey O'Neal Jones,
believed she was disrespecting his father so he walked behind a couch,
lunged at his stepmother and stabbed her several times. The woman's
husband stepped in to stop the attack and Jones fled. Police later found
him nearby. Ruiz was pronounced dead at a hospital.

Jones is held on a $500,000 bond and charged with murder.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Dec 22, 2016 - 05:48pm PT
Trust no bitches....
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 25, 2016 - 08:25am PT
Looking grim in Oakland.
A black hole has gone suddenly even murkier, just when there was light at the end of the Posey Tube.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000763435/article/bruce-irvin-on-carrs-injury-it-feels-just-like-we-lost
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 25, 2016 - 09:32am PT
I actually feel the Raider Nation's pain. Never thought I would utter those words.

Sea Squabs suck. Their D can't stop the Sisters of Mercy and their O doesn't know there are four quarters.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 25, 2016 - 09:35am PT
Can't trust those Penguins, neither.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 25, 2016 - 01:21pm PT
well a good thing it was a break and not a knee...

but I was watching it happen and it did make my heart sink, even though I dreaded the thought of a Raiders v. Pats "Snow Bowl II" AFC playoff...

though the "redemption symmetry" might have been highest had the Pats won that contest, and then went on to beat the Giants in the SuperBowl...

Brady could retire then...
slabbo

Trad climber
colo south
Dec 25, 2016 - 01:55pm PT
Pats on a roll #1 defense and #1 offense ? Home field?? Seems good to me


F the Donkees
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Dec 25, 2016 - 03:22pm PT
Watching the start of the Raider game yesterday I was thinking they looked pretty good, not someone I'd like to see the Pats have to Meet in the playoffs. Even I felt bad when I saw Carr go down; his injury has to be gut wrenching for Raider Nation.

Pats on a roll #1 defense and #1 offense ? Home field?? Seems good to me


F the Donkees

That's the spirit, John!

How's the weather down your way? My daughter and I need to find a road trip destination for several days mid-week to get on some rock.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 26, 2016 - 05:54am PT
The Broncos are not in the same class as the KC Chiefs, as we saw last night.

I only saw the last few minutes of the second quarter, missing all the scoring,
and the rest was so damned boring that I found myself snoring
and left them to root for their sorry selves.

slabbo

Trad climber
colo south
Dec 26, 2016 - 11:20am PT
Sent a pm edge.


Manassa is the place to be..south facing. 30-60m high and 5 minutes from the road.

pretty sure all the snakes are asleep too
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Dec 31, 2016 - 02:57pm PT
Roll Tide
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 31, 2016 - 06:04pm PT
Fiesta Bowl

First time under Meyer the Buckeyes have been scoreless in the first half -- that's 67 games.

Two chances to score, came away with zip.

Tigers lead 17 - 0

"The chips fell where they Lay, under the table,
but Bandito the Bulldog ignored them,
intent on the burrito lying unattended
on the ottoman while his master was arguing
with his mistress over the referee's call."

edit: Shutout, 31 - 0
Gearhead

Trad climber
Novato Ca
Dec 31, 2016 - 06:28pm PT
Steelers Cowboys Superbowl! Go Steelers Go!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 1, 2017 - 04:32am PT
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18386081/clemson-tigers-rematch-alabama-crimson-tide-college-football-playoff-championship-fitting-finale

January 9 -- National Title rematch

Tigers vs. Tide

"These are clearly the top two programs in college football. For the second consecutive season, they will play for the College Football Playoff National Championship Presented by AT&T (8 p.m. ET Jan. 9 on ESPN/ESPN App) with just one defeat between them."
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 1, 2017 - 10:35am PT
Huskies scored first and then went way conservative even when it became painfully obvious
that the game plan wasn't working. This was exactly what happened when USC beat us. Hard to believe this is the same Peterson that made such a name for himself at Boise St.
We were in it right til the end of the first half when Browning made that horrible decision.
Bama's offense only scored 17 on us. I can see Clemson beating them.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 1, 2017 - 06:13pm PT
After delivering some serious whupass on the Raiders, Broncos' head coach Gary Kubiak says he's gotta leave becuz of health concerns.

All the best, Coach!!!!!

http://nesn.com/2017/01/nfl-rumors-gary-kubiak-expected-to-resign-due-to-health-concerns/

Ring out the old, ring in the new.
We Broncos fans love that orange and blue.

http://sports-rings.com/wordpress1/2016/02/02/the-championship-rings-of-gary-kubiak/
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 3, 2017 - 06:19am PT
How 'bout that Lane Kiffin... mercenary piece of sh#t.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 3, 2017 - 06:49am PT
What are they feeding the Penn State cheerleaders? Krill? Alfalfa?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 3, 2017 - 10:00am PT
Chaz, they like 'em with handles back there.

Best Rose Bowl since '78 UW vs Michigan.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Jan 7, 2017 - 02:39pm PT
http://www.nfl.com/schedules
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 7, 2017 - 04:28pm PT
Raiders - one and done.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 7, 2017 - 10:02pm PT
Wait, the Sea Squabs do have a running game? That sneaky Pete has certainly
kept it well hidden all year, hasn't he? Oh, wait, they were playing the Lie-Ons.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 8, 2017 - 03:41am PT
Sorry about your raiders. tough break losing the QB
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 8, 2017 - 12:16pm PT
Can we get a real football game this weekend? One with, you know, competition?
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 8, 2017 - 12:29pm PT
The sports team from my area is more worthy of adulation than the sports team from your area!
John M

climber
Jan 8, 2017 - 03:15pm PT
that was incredible, but how do you allow that?
WBraun

climber
Jan 8, 2017 - 03:32pm PT
Unreal wasn't it!

Defenders have to simultaneously keep an eye on the ball and the receivers.

They missed seeing the ball at that moment ...
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 8, 2017 - 05:11pm PT
I did not realize it, but the Texans could be the first team to play a Super Bowl in their own stadium.
east side underground

climber
paul linaweaver hilton crk ca
Jan 8, 2017 - 05:13pm PT
go pack go
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 8, 2017 - 05:15pm PT
The Dallas/Packers game should be interesting,
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 8, 2017 - 05:20pm PT
Next week should be entertaining.

NFC
Cowboys v. Packers. Cowpokes will fall back to earth, Cheeseheads will rejoice.

Falcons v. Seahawks. Falcons take advantage of seabird injuries and win with home field advantage.

AFC
Chiefs v. Steelers. I see a lot of field goals, Chiefs victorious in a squeaker.

Patriots v. Texans. In Foxboro. Ahahahahaha!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 8, 2017 - 05:26pm PT
At least next week's games should be interesting for a couple of quarters,
except for the Pats and the Patsies.
Gearhead

Trad climber
Novato Ca
Jan 8, 2017 - 06:38pm PT
Steelers- Conboys Superbowl!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 9, 2017 - 05:52pm PT
I wonder what the average GPA of those two teams is.
And half an hour to play 10 minutes of actual ball? Really?

Now it is 2 hr 45 min to play 35 minutes of ball. Boy, those advertisers are loving this!
Are those guys even breaking a sweat?
crusher

climber
Santa Monica, CA
Jan 10, 2017 - 01:33pm PT
Good college championship game last night. Still think Rose Bowl was best and most exciting though (disclaimer - I'm a lifetime USC football fan)!

I still can't believe that Leon Hall (Giants) wasn't ejected from the game (against the Packers) after that blatant and damaging helmet spearing into Jordy Nelson's ribs...They apparently deemed it an illegal hit after the fact so he'll presumably get fined. Good thing the Packers won what was the only good game of all 4 wild cards.

Really sorry for the Raiders this year too...maybe next year!

slabbo

Trad climber
colo south
Jan 10, 2017 - 01:58pm PT
As a long time Patriots fan, the best thing for me is seeing all the really depressed Bronco fans around !!! I think 50% of the state wears some official gear...all that sad orange......

Steelers choke

Falcons choke

cowboys choke

Seahawks/Pats again
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 10, 2017 - 02:29pm PT
Rah Tigers!
Revenge is sweet.

"Fun finally won.
It wore down a stomping giant on a cool night in Florida,
quarter by quarter, drive by drive, play by play.
And afterward, it sang and gyrated for the world to see."
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 14, 2017 - 06:36am PT
Haven't watched much NFL this season.... except for my Panthers sucking hind tit.

Looking at the spreads, every game (except NE vs. Youston) is gonna be close.

Should be a good weekend for football.

Atlanta vs. Seattle? Go Raptors!!!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 14, 2017 - 07:25am PT
PROGRAMMING ALERT:

Sunday's early game start time has been moved to 5:20 pm ( Yosemite Valley time ) because of ice in Kansas City.

Ice. What a hell hole. I'll be watching the game outside, sitting on the deck enjoying a margarita, watching the K.C. fans freeze their asses off.




Vegas Odds:

Falcons favored by 5 over Seattle

Patriots favored by 15 1/2 over the Texans

Cowboys favored by 5 over Green Bay

K.C. favored by 1 over the Steelers

I'm going with the underdogs - except for the Patriots
slabbo

Trad climber
colo south
Jan 14, 2017 - 08:58am PT
Chaz--i don't know if you saw the Onion special report? ALL 32 teams moving to LA for next season !!!!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 14, 2017 - 09:18am PT
If the Rams and the Chargers pooled their wins together this season, they'd have almost enough to make the playoffs as a wildcard.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 14, 2017 - 01:17pm PT
I'm going with the underdogs - except for the Patriots.

It's the Patriots. Way.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 14, 2017 - 01:24pm PT
chaz... I think you have it figured out.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 14, 2017 - 02:15pm PT
NFL rules are so stoopid. Richardson should have been given the TD.
And thebrefs are so morally corrupt in favor of home teams. They call penalties that don't affect the play like Hester's punt return and then they don't even say who it is on.
This is the playoffs! Let 'em play fer crise sakes!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 14, 2017 - 02:59pm PT
I haven't seen Atl - they are impressive. Great O line, good receivers, Ryan is smart and has an adequate arm. The D ain't great but decent. Can they beat Dallas or GB? Yes.
Sea Sqwabs' D is a shell of itself - no rush, mediocre LBs, over-rated pass D. They're done.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 14, 2017 - 03:17pm PT
East , West face off match, Two 'birds of prey' teams too!
Falcons versus Sea Hawks( who have some hometeam mojo )

I was supposed to cut the chiken but the 1st 1/2 of game was just to good,

What's with that?
Refs,
"
No touch down for U .??
"
Hester's run back nullified ! ,?-?

At the half I put the game on hold & went to get on to getting dinner for the spurts.
It was still well before 6, dinner time.
So now I'm back,
I may not look back here I don't want to know what I might have missed.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 14, 2017 - 04:47pm PT
Seahawks?

Not ready!
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 14, 2017 - 05:50pm PT
Reilly ^^^ said it well. Without the Raiders, I'll have to root for the NFC (OK, I might be a bit squeamish about Dallas). I'm sorry that the Hawks lost, but they just didn't seem to play that well today

In edit: I would totally root for the Texans under some circumstances . Lightnin' Hopkins would.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 14, 2017 - 07:09pm PT
17-13? Are the Pats on Ludes?
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Jan 14, 2017 - 07:20pm PT
Pat attack!
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 14, 2017 - 07:31pm PT
17-13? Are the Pats on Ludes?

Houston has the highest ranked defense, by far, of any team playing this weekend. New England's D is next.

NE will still cover the spread (15.5?)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 14, 2017 - 07:36pm PT
I gotta admit I've not seen them or ATL. D wins championships, as long as you can also score.
I just figured Brady was keeping the spread down for next week.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Jan 14, 2017 - 07:36pm PT
Pattywhack!
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Jan 14, 2017 - 07:56pm PT
Pats take in slack!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 14, 2017 - 08:20pm PT
Texans may be down by 18, but they're just a field goal away from covering the spread.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Jan 14, 2017 - 08:23pm PT
Pats will be SB51 Champs!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 14, 2017 - 08:28pm PT
Anyone here check out the astounding Bama versus Clemson championship game? It doesn't get much better than that one.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 14, 2017 - 08:29pm PT
Wow a record 6 straight AFC championship games for Pats.

Amazing sustained excellence.

But as we saw tonight anything can happen on a Sunday. Any of the teams left could win the SB.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 15, 2017 - 08:34am PT
Sea Sqwabs' D is a shell of itself - no rush, mediocre LBs, over-rated pass D. They're done.

Naw... I suspected a year like this with their O-line issues. They've got $38M ( http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/cap/2017/ ) in cap space next year (and hardly any dead money [less than $1M]) and the only significant free agent is Hauschka (who they might just let walk as he's no longer "money" it seems). They have four good looking RBs (Rawls, CJ, Pope Collins), RW is still a stud and the receiver group with a ton of upside (like with the emergence of PRich). Even their OLine has a lot of upaide. Ifedi is a mauler and so is Glowinski. Britt switched to center and played at a near pro bowl level.

Not sure how you call Wagner (who set a team record for tackles this year) and KJ mediocre. Though the lose of Irvin hurt that unit it did allow Clark to get on the field and he played lights out.

It was only three years ago that they were one of the youngest teams to win a superbowl.

They've got all their draft picks this year with probably an extra 3rd, 4th and 6th compensatory, no cap issues at all, their core of pro-bowlers still in their prime. Plus they play in the NFC west and about the only team with a chance to catch them is the Arizona team with a washed up Palmer as QB. Naw... this team is anything but done.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 15, 2017 - 09:00am PT
Well, braj, I agree that on paper they look good, but on the field they didn't get it done. I know
they had some injuries but they weren't playing that well before those. And the offense's
seeming inability to grasp that it is worth scoring in the first half also mystified me all year.
I also think Russel needs a couple of months in a cave in Tibet to clear his mind. Why does
he have such a hard time making decisions? With his mobility he shouldn't take any sacks.
Maybe he needs to grow a few more inches to see over those big guys?

Oh, I only meant they were done by the middle of the second quarter. I have faith in Pete
to improve things next year although I believe their season long first half scoring probs are
due to his misplaced faith in his D's ability to keep them close in the first half. They went to
the well in the second half way too often. An improved run game next year should greatly
help.

GO HUSKIES!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 15, 2017 - 09:58am PT
Gotcha and agreed. M's might even be worth following this year.

Woof woof - Go Dawgs!
slabbo

Trad climber
colo south
Jan 15, 2017 - 11:58am PT
I like how ESPN saying Pats "got by" the Texans..granted a lot of mistakes, but they did win by 18 and cover the spread with a sub-par offensive effort
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 15, 2017 - 01:54pm PT
I like how ESPN saying Pats "got by" the Texans..granted a lot of mistakes, but they did win by 18 and cover the spread with a sub-par offensive effort...

against the top ranked defense in the NFL built on the very plan of how to defeat a "Tom Brady" get after him and make him "uncomfortable." They succeeded in that, and the result?

The second ranked defense in the NFL is the Pats'...
so it would seem that they have an edge in the always random outcome of the playoffs.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 15, 2017 - 02:56pm PT
Radio silence ?
The Patriots. Texans game was great. But (as always?!) , I thought the Refs were ridiculous, not making the call till Brady's head bounced off the turf.




Green Bay / Dallas

The Cowboys just scored, to take their score to 10,
That is an 11 point deficit with 6 minutes left to play in the 1st half.
The score
Green Bay Packers 21, Dallas Cowboys 10

(Arron Rodgers with / Jared Cook has been dominating the field)

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/watch-aaron-rodgers-put-clinic-first-half-vs-cowboys-011517

Well,
I've stayed away from a fairly regular thing that happens for most any sportz event.
It is just down a short street. This game time was a test of the true party football fans on the street, our passivity to fan zeal is well noted. I make up for it by being the designated pre-dawn dad at the bus stop. I had to be there for the a Pats. Texans game last night.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 15, 2017 - 04:36pm PT
Witten's mittens, 'boys!
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 15, 2017 - 04:39pm PT
Dallas left too much time for the likes of Rogers; with four downs and his experience at clock management, he just has to avoid any picks.

Edit: I get a certain enjoyment out of watching Jerry Jones lose in gut wrenching fashion. Go Pack!
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 15, 2017 - 04:40pm PT
Tied at 28 with 4:00 min. to go in the 4th,
Go Packers!!!

Yup! Great game.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 15, 2017 - 04:48pm PT
Pack up by 3 now.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 15, 2017 - 04:56pm PT
Haha! Roll tied! (OT)
WBraun

climber
Jan 15, 2017 - 05:10pm PT
OMFG !!!!! can you believe that 4th quarter !!!!!

YOWZA !!!!!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 15, 2017 - 05:13pm PT
Refs effed up another good game. That was a totally bullsh!t call against the Boys. I like the
Pack but I'd really like to see an honestly reffed game, just once.

GO CHIEFS!
zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 15, 2017 - 06:59pm PT
Semi-serious question, but how many times do y'all experience déjà vu whilst watching football?



"it's good though, huh?"


Number 19, number 19, number 19 ...


Remember this?


Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 15, 2017 - 07:06pm PT
but how many times do y'all experience déjà vu whilst watching football?

With every gawd dammed futher mucking commercial. I purposely avoid products whose commercials I find obnoxious.

New England winning the Super Bowl also inspires deja vu, but the good kind.

So far my picks from last week look pretty good, as long as KC can get going offensively.


Jan 8, 2017 - 05:20pm PT
Next week should be entertaining.

NFC
Cowboys v. Packers. Cowpokes will fall back to earth, Cheeseheads will rejoice.

Falcons v. Seahawks. Falcons take advantage of seabird injuries and win with home field advantage.

AFC
Chiefs v. Steelers. I see a lot of field goals, Chiefs victorious in a squeaker.

Patriots v. Texans. In Foxboro. Ahahahahaha!


Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 15, 2017 - 08:06pm PT
Refs phuk up another game.
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Jan 16, 2017 - 01:28am PT
Holding on the Chiefs on the potentially game tying 2-point conversion?

There goes Reilly's theory of home field refs being morally corrupt.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 16, 2017 - 04:00am PT
That was a good call. That jersey got jerked and that's that. Alex took it like a man, too, I thought.

Small consolation, but it's only a game and there are rules and blatant is blatant, no matter the consequences.

I thought the game was essentially boring as sh#t.

The Pats will roll over the Steelers if they meet.
slabbo

Trad climber
colo south
Jan 16, 2017 - 06:40am PT
Steelers will need a lot more than 3 pointers to win in Foxboro
Gearhead

Trad climber
Novato Ca
Jan 16, 2017 - 09:07am PT
Chiefs redzone d is a lot better than the Pats. Steelers win by three.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 16, 2017 - 10:30am PT
2016 the Pats' D was ranked just above the Chief's in Opponent Red Zone scoring percentage (TDs only):

19 New England 55.17%
20 Kansas City 55.56%

so I don't think that it will be much different. That and the fact that the Pats have the highest ranked scoring D...

what will be interesting in the kicking game will be the possibility of another "center-leap" field goal block by the Pats... two this year I believe... especially on the long attempts... scoop-n-score?

Pats D is allowing 1.6 TDs per game this year, and 2.2 pt/attempt for field goals (tied for 2nd with 5 other teams), KC was 2.6...

on 6 attempts KC would have expected 15.6 pts, (got 18) and at NE you'd expect 12.6

so we'll see... I think the Pats D has not been talked about a lot this year... they gave up a total of 250 pts in the regular season... Steelers D gave up 327 (the second best for the surviving playoff teams)
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 22, 2017 - 09:11am PT
The home teams are favored in Vegas this week.

Falcons 5 1/2 point favorites over Green Bay.

Patriots only 6 over the Steelers.

I like the Patriots and the Packers.
WBraun

climber
Jan 22, 2017 - 10:00am PT
I snow plowed 11 hours yesterday.

Today it's raining.

No need to plow today :-)

So it will be watching "Football !!!!"

Cool .....
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 22, 2017 - 10:14am PT
For all you do this one's for you,
the Duck what got stuck behind the plough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqckfI8yg8

This game will be the STeelers' turn to bow to defense.

It's fate, I'm tellinya.
John M

climber
Jan 22, 2017 - 12:00pm PT
Werner.. why is Badger closed? Is it that crazy out there? or did a plow break down?
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 22, 2017 - 12:05pm PT
Ok.... the best weekend for pro football.

I am happy its raining, I was able to turn down the offers to go climbing without guilt and get down to some good ball.

I predict .... Atlanta over Greenbay ... by 14!

Pittsburg over New England ... by 2 at the end.

lets go!

WBraun

climber
Jan 22, 2017 - 12:08pm PT
John

I don't know what happened to why Badger was closed.

But on 120 it got so bad the plows couldn't keep up so they closed 120.

Yesterday was an awful lot of snow to be removed just in the Village area.

We were running out of places to put it.

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 22, 2017 - 12:51pm PT
So where's the ball spotted? The one? The twenty?

Ass holes on FOX went to commercial without letting anyone know. Gotta run those commercials. The game? Who cares?
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 22, 2017 - 01:08pm PT
Packers D is non existent. Too much time at the bar last night?
John M

climber
Jan 22, 2017 - 01:57pm PT
did Green Bay not get their wheaties this morning? 2 guys couldn't tackle that receiver?
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 22, 2017 - 01:59pm PT
Wow! I'm checking in, That clip of the 9ers come back, if anyone can turn on a glory switch its
(Say Hail Mary) Aron Rodgers.
I'm checking out, but enjoy !
these games have been good.

Notice the ten count that the stripe shirts are taking to
call the Touch Down? 'NeW, ( to me ) it used to be much more instant. Dramatic, force full tight jump and the double raised hands, now the is a long pause while the ref eyes down the player in the end zone. The resulting signal is still dramatic and since instant replay is coming.
& it's between plays it on the refs. time.( tv time too )

This season I've been very critical of the ~ All-over the place, lack of or over-control ~ all inconsistent ~ sometimes event changing ~ refereeing !
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 22, 2017 - 02:27pm PT
They don't want to admit when they're sick, but Green Bay looks like sh#t today
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 22, 2017 - 02:29pm PT
Atlanta missed the extra point - things are starting to go Green Bay's way!
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 22, 2017 - 02:31pm PT
R-E-T-C-H
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 22, 2017 - 02:39pm PT
Just cracked open the first beer.... time to take a walk in the rain.

Packers.... where did you guys go???

hopefully New England will show up, I know Pittsburg will....



Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Jan 22, 2017 - 02:42pm PT
WTF?

The refs got that 1st quarter fumble recovery correct. He was down but not touched until he rolled into the end zone.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 22, 2017 - 03:02pm PT
Ouch.
WBraun

climber
Jan 22, 2017 - 03:42pm PT
Tough game for Green Bay but Falcons were on top today and unbeatable.

Next up are the Steelers who called New England aholes lol.

Should be real good game on that one?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 22, 2017 - 05:08pm PT
The flea flicker? Whoo-hoo! ZAP!!!
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 22, 2017 - 05:55pm PT

This bend-don't-break defense gives me a little heart attack every game, but they always get the job done.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 22, 2017 - 06:20pm PT
I only got to see snippets of the Atlanta/GB game, but from what I saw...

Well, maybe the best way to put it is that Green Bay made the Seahawks look pretty good.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 22, 2017 - 06:29pm PT
Two blow outs!!!!

Pitts D secondary... could not stop anything. Looked to me like they played soft all day.

LI .... looks like a good even match up.

See you all Feb 5th.

johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 22, 2017 - 09:18pm PT
NE vs Atlanta? I think I'll be getting my nails done.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 24, 2017 - 08:28am PT
http://www.ajc.com/news/national/super-bowl-2017-what-time-what-channel-live-stream-lady-gaga-halftime/J0BCu5ruAAyKZQirkz48pJ/

What about the pre-game show?

It is set to start at 11 a.m. ET on Fox.

The coverage will include a sit-down interview with President Donald Trump.

Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly will conduct the interview, and, according to Fox, it should air around 4 p.m. ET. The interview will be conducted a few hours before it is aired.

Game starts 6:30 ET.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 24, 2017 - 09:38am PT
Could actually be a gud SB. Both teams have good D although the Pats have the edge on
offense, but not by much. 24-20 Pats

Disclaimer: I've no idea what the official 'line' is.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 24, 2017 - 10:14am PT
I predict...... an Upset stomach... from all the pre-game eating and drinking.

I will make final prediction, the day of the game. I messed up last time, I didn't know that 12 Steelers.... HAD the FLU!!!!


Good that the BIG GAME is starting late... will have plenty of time to go climbing in the morning till the arms won't work anymore.


the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 24, 2017 - 11:14am PT
Tomlin had a nasty drip under his nose the whole night.

They caught Brady farmer's blowing on the sideline. Great TV!

With Bell out the steelers didn't stand a chance. Plus Brady burning their CBs over and over.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 24, 2017 - 12:30pm PT
Snot rocket.

That's what it's called in New England.
slabbo

Trad climber
colo south
Jan 25, 2017 - 06:36am PT
looked like some good ones too!!!

The over/under is 59..among the highest ever for an SB....maybe, but I don't think so.

I just want to see Brady give Goodell the finger.
Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
Jan 25, 2017 - 06:58am PT
I'm with you brother John. I see that you may have left New England but are still a New Englander at the core!!!! Go Pats.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 5, 2017 - 08:38am PT
What's on yer Super Bowl menu?

I don't know what our SuperTopo host & hostess have on the menu, but I've been told I have to bring plenty of this:

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 5, 2017 - 08:49am PT
When I think Pigeon Point Brewery, I think of these guys:

http://www.highway1brewing.com/

Because they're right across the street from Pigeon Point.


I doubt they have a TV ( at the brewery ) so no game there today. No phone reception and no wifi. They want people to talk to each other, like you're supposed to in bars.
slabbo

Trad climber
colo south
Feb 5, 2017 - 09:36am PT
Small group (6) and I'm making some pizza,,,green chili/chicken and mushroom/sicilian

The beer selection will be pretty good too


Pats 20-17
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 5, 2017 - 10:04am PT
while I'm rooting for the Pats, due to being a long time (since 6 years old) fan (which spanned at least 30 years of truly terrible teams, including a memorable SBXX, woeful, which I fortunately did not see as I was traveling to Europe on that day), the SB seems so random in so many ways that I find it impossible to actually give a prediction.

I do wish the SB wasn't so commercially attractive that a 1 hour 15 minute game + timeouts takes over 4 hours to unfold... but that's living in the US for you.

for your reading enjoyment, Judy Macur's piece in the NYTimes sport page is a fun read:

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/05/sports/football/new-england-patriots-super-bowl-cheating.html

The flip side is the natural tendency for losers to attribute the winners' success to some unfair advantage. In particular, alleged cheating that, in the end, doesn't actually obtain an advantage may not be cheating after all. But it can deflect the embarrassment of having one of your offensive linemen picked up and pushed into your scrambling quarterback inducing in a fumble viewed by a large number of people at primetime on Thanksgiving... maybe it's mean to bring that up.

In the two most publicized accusations of the Patriots, neither seemed to gain an advantage, while both were violations of the rules (at least in letter). The team has succeeded even after these activities were discovered, albeit with the suspicion that they are somehow so deceptive that they must be cheating somehow...

And it is also a consideration that in both cases, when denied the cheating scheme, that the team seemed to carry on its winning ways. In particular, the deflated balls (if that is what happened) didn't seem to affect the outcome, or the performance of the Pats, in that infamous game against the Colts; the accusation of cheating coming from the former General Manager who couldn't believe his team sucked as badly as it actually did, because, after all, he considered himself a football genius.

Oh, and the headsets seemed to work in Gillette stadium a couple of weeks ago.. when the team that tipped off the Colts' GM of the possibility of nefarious deflation played... hmmm.

But I am not objective in this regard...



mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 5, 2017 - 10:42am PT
Give me a Pee...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
but I'm with Tad.

Go Birds!
slabbo

Trad climber
colo south
Feb 5, 2017 - 12:04pm PT
Trump signed THE Doug Flutie for a crazy amount ( i think $5 m) and then wanted $$ from the other teams because "I did it for the league".

The biggest problem for the Pats is the EagleBrook Saloon, a few miles from the stadium. I used to live nearby and man o man a lot of drinking goes on there !
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 5, 2017 - 12:13pm PT
The game will hinge on whether the effing refs will let 'em play and whether
the Pats can stop da Boids' running game, which is moderately impressive.
There could be some other factors, too, depending upon how desperate Lady Gagme
is to attract attention. I'm leaning more towards da Boids than I was but
I think the B-man will prevail - he and his crew just seem to play smarter,
even without any untoward advantages.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Feb 5, 2017 - 12:20pm PT
Watching at home with my wife, who has prepared a favorite artichoke dip to go with chicken & portobello enchiladas. I like to focus on the game, and can't stand watching with other people who want to talk, so I am allowed full hermit status on such occasions. I'm only moderately interested in the commercials, and have no interest in watching or listening to Lady Gaga drone on.

I have the Pats 34-20. All of their previous wins have been within three points, and I think Brady takes advantage of an inexperienced secondary and weak pass rush. Pats D is disrespected despite leading the league in points allowed, and Ryan will have to figure out what scheme the Pats are throwing at him fast with his All Pro center playing with a broken fibula.

And why is it Super Bowl LI? Did Trump get to name it after his administration?
slabbo

Trad climber
colo south
Feb 5, 2017 - 12:27pm PT
i remember a quote from the Great john Mallery from El Cap Meadow "what's with these F#%$&*ng Falcons Man ?"
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 5, 2017 - 12:39pm PT
Edge, it's part of the BIG LI.

And enjoy your enchiladas. I already devoured my green pollos AND six rollie-pollie tacos. Saving the burrito for the game.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 5, 2017 - 01:33pm PT
It ain't rocket science - stop Edelman and Amendola and you win the game, don't stop them and you lose it.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Feb 5, 2017 - 03:00pm PT
After carefully thinking about it..... going with my gut football feelings rather than my emotional ones...

New England ...30

Atlanta ...24


Brisket, Potato Salad, Veggie Chili, shrimp cocktail and more....


everybody have fun.

StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 5, 2017 - 03:08pm PT
And stop Blount too. Makes it a little harder.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 5, 2017 - 03:42pm PT
Guess I got my answer about Pat's run D
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 5, 2017 - 04:19pm PT
Game over - Pats can't stop the run. Boids shouldn't throw another pass, until the Pats
overcommit to the run.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 5, 2017 - 04:34pm PT
"They shouldn't throw another pass."

Don't think they're hearin' ya.

8:48 left in the half.

14-0
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 5, 2017 - 04:42pm PT
Ticky tack hold - the NFL hates a blowout
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 5, 2017 - 04:46pm PT
It's ovah now. Time for short ribs and Chateauneuf du Pape.

Finslly a decent ad! Alfa Romeo, baby!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 5, 2017 - 04:57pm PT
Will the Pats avoid the ignominious stain of a blowout?

Will Lady Gaga's hair be all blown out?

Ask Terry at halftime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=xT85CFxs-lM
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 5, 2017 - 05:29pm PT
Nat Geo wins the ad battle!

Geez, people pay money to watch that bimbo?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 5, 2017 - 05:40pm PT
"Who could have predicted..."--JoBuck

Who could NOT have predicted that JoBuck would have said what he said about that?

Here comes NE after a 36-yd run-back.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 5, 2017 - 05:48pm PT
Joe Buck is the poster chile about the perils of nepotism.

Wow, another ticky tack pass int call. I guess the NFL doesn't love the Pats.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 5, 2017 - 05:58pm PT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 5, 2017 - 06:07pm PT
DOINK! That sums it up.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 5, 2017 - 06:22pm PT
It's Karma for New England.

Their quarterback, coach, & owner have all been vocal Trump supporters.

Trump mentioned his friendship with their quarterback & predicted a Patriots win.

Bad Karma.

Sluuuuuurp------Smirk
John M

climber
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:05pm PT
Is a missed extra point going to matter?

Tie Game!
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:08pm PT
Admittedly not going the way I thought, but how can you end debate about Greatest Evah without overcoming a 25 point deficit?
John M

climber
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:08pm PT
superbowls are won in the 4th quarter..
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:09pm PT
I think the Pats are feeling it.
Told ya not to count the B-men out.
John M

climber
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:14pm PT
Told ya not to count the B-men out.

hahahaha.. really? back edit?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:15pm PT
From worst SB evah to best?

John, go back two pages.
John M

climber
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:20pm PT
One page back you said its "Ovah".. hahaha.. You one of dem flip floppers?

Can;'t remember.. is overtime sudden death or full quarter or some variation?
John M

climber
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:28pm PT
I love seeing comebacks, but I was rooting for Atlanta..
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:28pm PT
Patriots will be congratulated in the Kremlin.

MLB season not far off. Thanks, Obama!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:29pm PT
It's Karma for New England.

Their quarterback, coach, & owner have all been vocal Trump supporters.

Trump mentioned his friendship with their quarterback & predicted a Patriots win.

Thanks, Fritz.

We will have so much winning when I get elected that you will get bored with winning
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:45pm PT
Cosmic & Chaz:

I am happy for you folks, even though you support the forces of evil, who are enjoying the end result of the game.



Which doesn't mean that I have to enjoy it as much as you folks & Trump do.


Sluuuuuurp.

MountainShark

Trad climber
Camarillo, Ca
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:55pm PT
I'm pretty sure they cheated
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Feb 5, 2017 - 07:58pm PT
First Bud I've had in 25 years.
WBraun

climber
Feb 5, 2017 - 08:13pm PT
Fukin Awesome game!!!!

Even halftime was awesome!!!

Gaga crushed it !!!!
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Feb 5, 2017 - 08:23pm PT
photo from the Super Bowl party at the Mar-a-Lago


the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Feb 5, 2017 - 08:41pm PT
I appreciate the way the Pats play football and try to ignore a few of them
Supporting trump. I'm sure most of the team does not like him

What a frickin game.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 5, 2017 - 09:15pm PT
As I said, it ain't rocket science.
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Feb 5, 2017 - 09:23pm PT
Fukin Awesome game!!!!

Even halftime was awesome!!!

Gaga crushed it !!!!


hahahaha

'merica rises like never before
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Feb 5, 2017 - 09:27pm PT
Happy Cowboy

Social climber
Boz MT
Feb 5, 2017 - 09:33pm PT
Hey, what a game
I'm drunk now for I gave up on the game till my team won.
I see no political conection, I'm a hopeless hippie and always been aBelichek/Brady fan.
Brady "I do what coach says" and Coach B's "do your job" are words for the strong to live by.
Every athelite on the field warrants a huge ego. I like seeing the best team win!
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Feb 5, 2017 - 09:36pm PT
I'm sure most of the team does not like him

they may not like his support of Trump but I bet most would take a proverbial bullet for him.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 5, 2017 - 10:59pm PT
Brady surpassed Kurt Warner’s prior record of 414 pass yards and finished the game 43-of-62 passing for 466 yards.

Patriots are the first team to come from ten points back to win.

First Off-Topic Super Bowl evah!

First QB to win five Super Bowls.

"It's hard to imagine us winning..."

All respect and admiration for Tom Brady...but did he deserve his 4th MVP award as much as James White, who set Super Bowl records with 14 catches and 20 points? The twenty points were, of course, a large part of New England’s furious comeback.

And there was the little Thing about the two-point conversion that kept it going, which his TD set up.

And White went into the end zone for a record-tying third time to seal the game.

So, there's a full plate for Monday Morning.

Thanks to Chris Chase at Fox Sports for bringing this to the table, not me.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 5, 2017 - 11:28pm PT
Edelman's been robbed again - should definitely have been MVP in the 2015 superbowl.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 6, 2017 - 12:30am PT
well that was pretty unbelievable...

still not sure what happened... but having the ball for 40 minutes seemed like the strategy they were talking about, albeit not playing from behind.

the Pats' stout defense kept the Falcons to 21 pts... and seemed to do most of what they were hoping for, limiting the big offensive plays and coming up with some of their own.

I'm sure a lot will be written on this Super Bowl, maybe I'll even understand it, someday.

Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
Feb 6, 2017 - 05:20am PT
AMAZING!!!! It really was 2 different games--3 quarters of one game, one quarter and a bit more of a totally different one.

Well Slabbo/John, Brady didn't give Goodell the finger (at least that we could see) but Robert Kraft did a pretty good approximation--good enough for me.

On to next year. Oh, first there are the Sox.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Feb 6, 2017 - 08:20am PT
Unbelievable game..... Falcons crushed it for 3 QTRS then checked out...

Brady makes a statement....

and its got nothing to do with politics...


OK.. so it time for Batter UP!

Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Feb 6, 2017 - 09:07am PT
I'm enjoying watching the shock waves ripple across Broncos nation; a total of four Coloradans now admit that Brady might be better than Elway.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 6, 2017 - 09:54am PT
Toss this old Broncos fan into the mix on that thinking.

You think about how many times the defense hammered Brady early in the game...jeez, what determination.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Feb 6, 2017 - 11:10am PT
I just rewatched Gaga's entrance. Live I wasn't really sure what was going on, I didn't get she was on top of the stadium at first, they had the roof closed previously and I didn't realize they had opened it. Of course once she was descending I figured it out. That was a really ballsy move. She had to get fully airborne and trust the cables to catch her from hundreds of feet up.

James White could have been the MVP. Brady said he should have been. But Brady's performance was almost beyond belief too.

Incredalman's catch was amazing.

Glad to see Amendola played a big part. He was supposed to replace Welker but then Edelman, Mitchell, and Hogan kind of overshadowed him. But he's still clutch and I'm glad he stayed on the team and contributed.

Brady erased all the Crybrady's arguments. He may have been aware balls were deflated in a game where it didn't matter, so what. He displayed the biggest comeback of all time and cemented himself as the GOAT.
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Feb 6, 2017 - 11:27am PT
The Boston Patriots entered the league in 1960, the year before I was born. My dad, who was from Charleston, MA, was a fan from the start, and my earliest memories are of watching games with him on Sundays.

He's 83 years old now, but called me after the win (and WAY past his bedtime) to share the experience and excitement. That's what makes it special for me.


healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 6, 2017 - 11:42am PT
Edelman / Amendola, the new Welker / Woodhead.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 6, 2017 - 06:01pm PT
First QB to win five Super Bowls.

What happened? Bart Starr's five championships don't count anymore?
zBrown

Ice climber
Feb 6, 2017 - 06:24pm PT
I kicked Tom Brady's ass in Foosball.
Likewse these two.
Dude wouldn't know a nunchuck from Chuckie Cheese.





TBC
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 6, 2017 - 08:13pm PT
Gary, Gary, Gary...

Bart STarr is a football deity, at least in the Old School Temple.

Far be it from me to lie about divine accomplishments.

TECHNICALLY, there was no Super Bowl back when St. Bart won his championships,
so, TECHNICALLY, blah-blah-blah, ga-ga-ga, etc.

:0)
WBraun

climber
Feb 6, 2017 - 08:24pm PT
TECHNICALLY, there was no Super Bowl back when St. Bart won his championships

Bart Star

He won the very first two Super bowls .....
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 6, 2017 - 08:34pm PT
Mark Pattison.
UW alum, retired NFL player.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Pattison_(American_football);

https://www.facebook.com/NFL2SevenSummits/photos/a.673731319432347.1073741828.673161976155948/828517660620378/?type=3&theater

slabbo

Trad climber
colo south
Feb 7, 2017 - 06:50am PT
I told the other people at our gathering "it's over when TB12 decides it's over..period"

Retire Tom,,then go dancing with Giselle.
Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
Feb 7, 2017 - 07:18am PT
Unless hurt he'll go for at least a few more seasons. How old was George Blanda when he retired? Anyway, once todays--wet--parade is over, TB will start beating himself up over how poorly he played in the first 3/4 and work even harder on 'perfecting himself' for next season.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Feb 7, 2017 - 07:34am PT
As a lifelong Pats fan I think Brady should go out on a big win like this. Or, does he think he could do it again next year? His call, since he is the greatest quarterback of all time.

That was the greatest football game I've watched since the Pats win over Oakland in the snow in '01 (I think it was '01, it's been a while).
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Mar 27, 2017 - 11:54am PT
Owners voted to okay Raiders move to Las Vegas 31-1.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Sep 6, 2017 - 01:58pm PT
Longest offseason ever for us Pats fans. Almost over.

The more I learn about football the more I realize I don't know. I guess that makes sense with a game that grew out of a free for all and had various rules added from many people over the years to make it safer. It's opened up so many strategies in all phases of the game. For an analytical and strategical guy like me it's a never ending source of fascination.

I've coached both my sons in flag football and I've just scratched the surface.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Sep 7, 2017 - 11:32am PT
oh cry me a river.... Pats fans had a long offseason.

Go Chiefs!



My 'hawks just got a lot better on the D-line. Sheldon Anderson with Bennett and Avril and Clark. Feel the pain!

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Sep 7, 2017 - 02:34pm PT
Owners voted to okay Raiders move to Las Vegas 31-1.

There is going to be some epic debauchery going on with those guys in Vegas. total distraction, that is why all the owners gave the thumbs up.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 8, 2017 - 07:53am PT
Schooled? The Pats' offense seemed to have sat out the last quarter, even though the Chiefs were dead set on losing the game from stupid penalties like running into the kicker TWICE IN A ROW, fer Chrissakes.

The worst showing of Pats' defense EVER by a Belichick team.

But Alex "First Round" Smith looked unshakable.

"Bring it on, AFC West."
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Sep 8, 2017 - 09:49am PT
Good game. Even though I'm a pats fan I'd rather have a competitive game (for 3 Qs anyway) than a boring blow out.

I'm glad Chiefs RB Hunt overcame fumble and had a good game.

49ers looking dumb for getting rid of Smith for Kap.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 8, 2017 - 11:29am PT
How about that game, huh? 11 minutes of action in only 4 hours! That's excitement!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 8, 2017 - 02:14pm PT
Yeah, Gare, TV has sullied the game, but that was a proud effort by the Chiefs in a rather unfriendly house!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 8, 2017 - 02:52pm PT
Tad, 'member when OJ sat on the Niners' bench for two years?

The dark days of Joe "Don't Know Football" Thomas?

Before the sainted Bill Walsh came to clean the Augean Stables?

And how, after those glory days, Trent Dilfer...aw, it's all happening again, huh.

Reilly, the late-game shot of an almost empty Pats' house was stunning.
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Sep 8, 2017 - 05:55pm PT
Kansas City kicking the ass of the Patriots on 9-7 was a big upset.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Sep 8, 2017 - 10:45pm PT

But Alex "First Round" Smith looked unshakable.

"Bring it on, AFC West."

And KC was so confident in Smith that they spent draft picks to trade up to the #10 spot to get his replacement.

I generally enjoy watch Brady play but that beat down was a thing of beauty, penalties and all. (The injuries to both teams sucks, though.)

On to Cincinnati part deux...
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 9, 2017 - 12:27am PT
Speculation about trading Alex Smith is and has been rife; but the chips were down and he came through. He's a bit long-toothed, but he still has a great career ahead of him if he stays injury-free.

He had a chance to take it all in 2011 and 2012 with the 49ers and might have but for fickle fate in the form of missed FGs, etc.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Sep 9, 2017 - 10:36am PT
Enjoy it Kansas City. You f*#ks can't even decide what state you're in.


I guess Beantown ain't much better.

August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Sep 11, 2017 - 08:58pm PT
Just wait for the Las Vegas Raiders...
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Sep 11, 2017 - 09:33pm PT
Raiders looked good! Nice execution on crucial high yardage 3rd down plays, great presence from Derek Carr and big kudos to Georgio Travecchio for kicking some field goal ass. Thanks to Marshawn for adding an additional layer of badassness to the Raider offense . . . look out kids, this guy is gonna show 'em how it's done. Apostrophe and all . . . go silver and black.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Nov 12, 2017 - 07:04pm PT
Ah, Dallas. Weak offensive line and weaker defense. Jones is making money hand over fist but can't put together a winning team.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Nov 12, 2017 - 07:05pm PT
Yeah niners finally get one. With Jimmy G under center they make start rebuilding nicely.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 12, 2017 - 07:07pm PT
OK Reilly & U of Washington fans!

WSU faces U of W. in Seattle in two weeks, with the Northern Division Pac 12 Championship on the line.

WSU, # 15/16 in the football rankings, at 9 - 2, gets two weeks off to rest up for their annual cross-state "hate-fest" with 8 - 2 U of W, #16/15 in the rankings.

Washington has to play Utah this weekend, which WSU just beat nicely & well.

Usually, the team that has the most reasons to hate the other team, beats their hated rival in this classic game.

That would be WSU, or not.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 12, 2017 - 08:18pm PT
Fritz, you hit the nail right on the head! Add in the complexity of being a Cal Bears fan, and and ... ... a lack of fondness for Stanford. So, the only probably way Stanford will not win the Pac12 north is if the Cougars beat Huskies. Where does that leave me?
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 12, 2017 - 08:57pm PT
Darwin! Re your astute remarks:

So, the only probably way Stanford will not win the Pac12 north is if the Cougars beat Huskies. Where does that leave me?


During my years as an outdoor shop manager in Moscow Idaho,1973 - 83, I would often journey the seven miles to Pullman WA & WSU to watch PAC 10 football & Basketball games.

Around 1981, a friend & I managed seats just above the Stanford bench on the 40 yard line for a memorable football game that featured legendary Stanford quarterback John Elway.

We had a large metal thermos-bottle full of Margaritas that we enjoyed, while Stanford dominated the game & Elway strutted back & forth just below us, when he wasn't playing.

After we emptied the thermos, my friend kept urging me to throw the heavy bottle at Elway to knock him out, so WSU could win.

I thought about it, but calculated that I couldn't beat the outraged Stanford players up the stairs & out of the stadium.

Sigh.

There went my chance for fame.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 12, 2017 - 09:24pm PT
That Stanford game was unbelievable. We were rolling and then a really dumb penalty kept us from a third TD and it was downhill from there. Some awful reffing added to the stoopid penalties we took but the bottom line was Stanford made adjustments and we didn’t. That was true of our other loss to AZ. It is clear to me that Peterson comes in with a game plan cast in stone. Jake Browning has also regressed this year. He never recovered from his arm injury last year. His arm is weak and he’s not very accurate under pressure. He’s making bad decisions too. I hope he’s not counting on an NFL career.

Our defense is over-rated from our weak schedule. That Stanford QB was schooling our corners and the linebackers seemed oblivious to their tight ends coming over the middle.

I will not be surprised at all if WSU wins the Apple Cup.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 12, 2017 - 09:33pm PT
That's good for your sake that you didn't throw it (Fritz). We need you in ST and climbing, and it saved him so he could get beat by Cal on his last college game when the Sanford band decided to block for Cal. Boy did Elaway whine (literally) about that.

I'm not a huge Husky fan, but my main climbing partner here in Seattle went to Wazzu is one of the Husky hating Cougar fans. So, I often find myself trapped into a more pro Husky stance than is my inclination, just to balance things out.

I don't even want to think about a "behaving badly at sporting events thread".
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 20, 2017 - 07:15pm PT
Sometimes Pete lets his emotions take over.
John M

climber
Nov 20, 2017 - 08:52pm PT
Thanks for the heads up. I caught the last quarter. Fun to watch.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 21, 2017 - 02:26am PT
Georgia on my mind.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/watch-atlantas-georgia-dome-implodes-in-seconds-after-25-years-of-games/
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 21, 2017 - 08:37am PT
Re: the fake field goal - a F1 team can change 4 tires faster than Jon Ryan could catch the hike and get to his feet.

And doesn’t Seattle have a minimum IQ for hiring? 9 penalties for over 100 yards and they were at home! Stoopid!
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 24, 2017 - 09:44am PT
How bout them Broncos & Bulldogs, football fans!

That of course would be the Boise State Broncos & Fresno Bulldogs, who each won their division in the Mountain West Conference.

Now their rewards are a scheduled conference game in Fresno this weekend & the conference championship next weekend, likely in Boise, but maybe in Fresno again.

Back to back match-ups are an unusual thing in college football.

Boise State (9-2) vs. Fresno State (8-3) Game Preview
So here’s how this works.

It might seem silly, but there’s no way anyone could’ve foreseen Boise State and Fresno State playing for the Mountain West title when the schedule was put together. So this is the first of two meetings, with only next week’s battle mattering for conference supremacy.

Where will it be played? The team ranked higher in the College Football Playoff rankings will get the home field advantage. Boise State was 23rd in the latest edition, and it’ll stay there or be higher with a win, and Fresno State will likely crack the top 25 if it wins. But what if neither one is ranked? That probably won’t happen, but Fresno State would almost certainly end up in the CFP top 25. If it’s not, the Bulldogs would host on the head-to-head win.

On a roll, Boise State has won seven straight and is unbeaten in Mountain West play, while Fresno State dropped the date with UNLV, but has been terrific defensively all conference season.

The Bulldogs are 8-0 when allowing 21 points or fewer, and 0-3 when giving up more. The Broncos have scored more than 21 points in every game.

The Fresno State offensive line has been fantastic, and the defense has been a killer on third downs and leads the conference in total D.

But the Bulldogs don’t have the firepower.

Boise State has a defense, too, and it’ll rise up on the road in a low-scoring battle. The Broncos have more offense, with the running game taking over in the second half to win Round One.

Boise State vs. Fresno State Prediction

Final Score

Boise State 23, Fresno State 17
http://collegefootballnews.com/2017/11/boise-state-vs-fresno-state-fearless-prediction-game-preview
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 24, 2017 - 10:53am PT
Thanks for that heads-up about Boise St/Fresno St, Fritz.

I have not seen a Bulldogs football game in recent years. In fact, my interest flagged after Jim Sweeney left the program and that's been quite a while (1996, in fact). I have seen some games since, but my Fresno fanship is not what it was. Sweeney has the best record of any FSU football coach, having 144 wins. His son, Kevin, became a pro QB.

In the early 90s his QB was Trent Dilfer, who won the Sammy Baugh award for collegiate passing in his junior year ('93), then went pro instead of finishing his 4 years at FSU.

I'll look forward to watching this conference championship contest.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 24, 2017 - 12:37pm PT
Mouse! Thanks for mentioning coach Jim Sweeney. He had less success at Washington State U from 1968 - 75, but he did so much better at Fresno State. I do recall making the 7-mile drive from Moscow, ID to Pullman to watch "big-time" Pac 10 football games, when he coached at WSU. I've remained a WSU fan all these years.

Speaking of WSU, they have a great rivalry game with their hated cross-state rival Washington this Sat. If WSU wins, they are the PAC-12 North Champion.

ESPN did a report on the best Rivalry-Week Grudge-match football games this weekend. Washington vs Washington State (WSU) is # 4 on the list.

Current College Football Playoff ratings are WSU #13, Washington # 17.
But the pundits are giving Washington a 10 point margin over WSU. It should be a hellofa game.


Here’s ESPN trivia on it.

Washington State vs. Washington
Date: Saturday, 8 p.m. ET, Fox
First meeting: 1900
All-time series record: Washington, 71-32-6
Current winning streak: Washington, 4

Why it matters: Since 1900, Washington and Washington State have played on a near-annual basis in one of the most storied rivalries on the West Coast. Through rain and snow, the Huskies hold a 73-32-6 advantage, and even when the game is played at Washington State, it's at a stadium named after a Husky -- former Gov. Clarence D. Martin. The stakes have rarely been as high as they have been the past two seasons. After Washington beat Washington State in what amounted to a Pac-12 semifinal last year to remain in contention for the College Football Playoff, the Cougars can lock up the Pac-12 North with a win in Seattle on Saturday. -- Kyle Bonagura
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21457611/welcome-rivalry-week-iron-bowl-egg-bowl-apple-cup-more
John M

climber
Nov 24, 2017 - 01:19pm PT
Got a good college game shaping up. UCF ( 10-0 ) vs USF (9-1).. 14-7 1st quarter. The winner clinches a spot in the American Athletic Conference championship game against Memphis next week.

Edit: 21-20 2nd quarter
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 24, 2017 - 07:15pm PT
John M! That UCF ( 10-0 ) vs USF (9-1) game was one hellava offensive circus. What a game!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 24, 2017 - 08:23pm PT
Hey, Fritz. It never dawned on me til you mentioned it that Sweeney had coached up north.

If only the nation would choose a president with the care that coaches are hired by educational institutions instead of relying on the political system...*sigh*
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 24, 2017 - 08:49pm PT
Mouse! Re your comment:

If only the nation would choose a president with the care that coaches are hired by educational institutions instead of relying on the political system...*sigh*


And if it was only as easy for "We the people" to rid ourselves of a "loser" president the same way universities rid themselves of losing coaches, that would be good too, at the present time.

Sigh.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Nov 25, 2017 - 08:26am PT
Yeah, let's have the people in charge do all hiring and firing. Excellent idea. Go team.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 25, 2017 - 08:44am PT
How's that political system working for ya, Ed? Lotta critical thinkers out there voting, huh?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 25, 2017 - 09:17am PT
Football is the perfect example of why democracy doesn’t work.

Why don’t I feel like a 10 point favorite against Wazoo?
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 25, 2017 - 09:51am PT
Reilly! RE your comment!

Why don’t I feel like a 10 point favorite against Wazoo?

WSU has some GUD wins this year. They beat both USC & Stanford.

The one that impressed me the most, was with Boise State. BSU was up by 21 points at the start of the 4th quarter. WSU was tied by the end of the game, then won after 3 overtimes.

BSU had to work hard to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in that game. That included a WSU punt hitting a BSU player in the back at the 20 yard line. WSU recovered the live ball & quickly scored.

That said, I'm not betting on WSU to win today's "hatefest" against "The Dawgs."
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Nov 25, 2017 - 10:14am PT
This year's national title race is turning out to be an ideal set up. Each of the top four teams will have to face a top 10 opponent in their respective conference championship. There's a good chance that any team winning an upset will secure a playoff spot. And don't overlook the fact that all the relevant conferences are included.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 25, 2017 - 01:18pm PT
Tad! He's Mark Rypien's nephew.
John M

climber
Nov 25, 2017 - 01:23pm PT
anyone watching (# 1) Alabama vs (# 6) Auburn? Looks like another good game.

I'm not getting the fresno game here in Arizona.
John M

climber
Nov 25, 2017 - 01:29pm PT
I'm not on direct tv. I'm on sudden link cable. I'm a town boy now. hahaha.. after 25 years in Yosemite/Wawona, its pretty weird to have neighbors and multiple stores down the street.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Nov 25, 2017 - 02:11pm PT
Mouse of Merced...My youngest bro is good friends with Tim DeRuyter , Fresno States former head coach...They played high school ball together...Could have hooked you up with tickets..Darn...rj
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 25, 2017 - 02:19pm PT
No ride into Fresno, rj. Thanks anyway. Halftime score 7 - 10 FSU. YEAH!
John M

climber
Nov 25, 2017 - 03:16pm PT
Auburn is taking it to Alabama.. 26-14 12:49 4th quarter
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 25, 2017 - 03:17pm PT
SWEET!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 25, 2017 - 03:26pm PT
9:05 to go in the fourth, Boise coming back on the Dawgs, 17 - 19.

Very interesting.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 25, 2017 - 03:32pm PT
And a quick score by FSU makes it 17 -25 with 8:45 to go.

Even more interesting - I'm watching the line score, not the game. No TV here.

edit: point after makes it 17 -26 / final score 17 -28
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 25, 2017 - 04:06pm PT
BSU vs Fresno in football! BSU loses!

Sigh,
but there's always BSU vs Fresno in football next week!

My other alma-mater WSU plays hated Washington at 6:00 tonight in WSU's chance to win the PAC-12 North.

And of course I can console myself that Alabama lost today. It's always a good day for me, when Alabama loses. It's just too bad that Auburn couldn't lose at the same time.


Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 25, 2017 - 04:30pm PT
Almost game time y’all! GO DAWGS!

Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 25, 2017 - 05:03pm PT
Huskies Q-back Jake Browning is going to get to meet WSU lineman HERCULES MATA'AFA tonight.

Jake won't like Hercules.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 25, 2017 - 06:08pm PT
HaHaHa! Jake doesn’t even know that dude is on the field.
14-0

Oh, and somebody tell Leach that he can forget about the run if he isn’t gonna double team Gaines and Vea. I felt sorry for the Wazoo center trying to block Gaines on that sweep. It was patty cake!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 25, 2017 - 06:27pm PT
Fritz, you still breathing? I think I’ll have a celebratory brew, with 5 min left in the half.
This is sooo OVAH! 8 yards/carry= nuff said
PURPLE REIGN! 😈
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 25, 2017 - 06:47pm PT
Reilly!

Sigh!

I just gave the living room TV back to Heidi.

Sigh!

edit! But wait! I learn that Stanford is leading Notre Dame at the half.

Praise anything but Jesus! I always root against religious schools & when it is a Eastern vs Western game, I can even get over my bias against Stanford.

Go Stanford!
MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Nov 25, 2017 - 07:10pm PT
I don't see how you guys do it with College ball. It's so difficult to stay up with pro ball. At least there the resources (people) are somewhat constant.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 25, 2017 - 07:20pm PT
Fritz, yer boie just got tossed. I usually don’t agree with those ‘targeting’ calls but this was a good call.
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Nov 25, 2017 - 07:48pm PT
Football? Did you say football? Hello from Auburn where we just beat #1 Bama!!!!!


War Eagle!!!!


Unbelievable game.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Nov 25, 2017 - 08:06pm PT
It's always a nice day when Bama loses....
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 25, 2017 - 08:40pm PT
Reilly! I didn't predict a WSU win, but I did predict that Jake Browning would not like that targeting fellow.

Fritz, yer boie just got tossed. I usually don’t agree with those ‘targeting’ calls but this was a good call.


And on the bright side! Stanford just beat Notre Dame!

Woohoo!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Nov 25, 2017 - 08:46pm PT
Light another candle for the Inukshuks....
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 25, 2017 - 09:03pm PT
RE Browning, Mata'afa and targeting: obviously.

But why wasn't Browning held out for a concussion protocol evaluation? The NFL haver their knickers in all a knot that Seahawk's Wilson was left in after a hit near his head last week, and Browning's hit looked to me to be way worse. UW's coach Peterson and Browning disagree:
http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article171231782.html

but sh#t, that looked bad. I know, they're just young cannon fodder.

WhyTF does targeting only have one "t"?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 25, 2017 - 10:50pm PT
Darwin, I don't think the actual hit was that bad but the intent was.
Football is turning into a pansy's game run by lawyers and bureaucrats.
Any rugger must laugh his asz off seeing all the hand-wringing.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 25, 2017 - 11:26pm PT
TargeTing does have two Ts.

You must be a zebra, missing that one! :)

Or you simply misspoke, meanning three Ts.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 26, 2017 - 09:57am PT
The Norwegian parliament is called the StorTing. (literally - the 'big ting')
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 26, 2017 - 02:42pm PT
Laugh now, but win the next three games, and S.F. can be called The Four-and-Nine-rs.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 26, 2017 - 03:34pm PT
Go Donkeys! How the mighty have fallen!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 3, 2017 - 07:38pm PT
Niners roll! LOL

Good game in Seattle. Will the Hawks hang on?
That Wentz kid is for realz. Love it when guys like him
come out of East Jibip U.
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Dec 3, 2017 - 08:29pm PT
The Raiders may be staging a late season comeback . . . they just need to win the remainder of their games, starting with KC next Sunday.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Kernville Annex)
Dec 4, 2017 - 09:27am PT
STEEL Curtain goes to work tonight against the Bengals. Ben is healthy, as is Bell and AB. Looking for the 9-2 advance.

GO STEELERS!!!!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 4, 2017 - 03:30pm PT
Super Bowl 2018....Patriots against somebody, doesn't really matter who.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 4, 2017 - 03:50pm PT
Rams are looking like contenders. Steelers are too.
Steelers-Rams has a nice old skool sound to it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 4, 2017 - 06:59pm PT
So much for the Steelers looking like contenders. WTF?
If they pull this one out maybe they still are?
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Kernville Annex)
Dec 5, 2017 - 04:03pm PT
Chris Boswell, for the win.......again. ;) Whew!! Onward and upward.

Sorry Jim......cheaters rarely prosper.


donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 5, 2017 - 04:42pm PT
Hmmmm...they prospered in 2015 & 2017
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Dec 7, 2017 - 08:01pm PT
Falcons vs. Saints - This is a good game.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 10, 2017 - 10:08am PT
Rams are legit. 27-20 Rams
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 10, 2017 - 04:37pm PT
Why is NFL reffing so corrupt? Rams are getting jobbed.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Dec 10, 2017 - 05:27pm PT
Haha Mooch spygate (filmed from the wrong spot) and deflatgate (no evidence the balls were even under the expected pressure) were both witch hunts. After watching the comeback in the last Super Bowl if you can't see what makes the Patriots special you are missing appreciating one of the best dynasties of all time.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 10, 2017 - 09:35pm PT
The Steel Curtain closed. Much respect.
Pats have to present their credentials in the Steel City next week!
BARNBUNER!
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Dec 10, 2017 - 09:39pm PT
Raiders are pathetic . . . Derek Carr is overpaid. He needs to watch Roethlisberger's tape from today and see what a real QB can do.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 11, 2017 - 09:27am PT
Big Ben became the first QB to pass for over 500 yds three times!
For a guy that can’t outrun his mom he is still a stud.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Kernville Annex)
Dec 11, 2017 - 11:43am PT
The Steeler secondary almost blew the game last night!! It took the Killer B's to get it done. And, of course, Chris Boswell booted the winner with his Golden Hoof! Anyway, moving forward..... should a Brady interception occur next week in Three Rivers, you can bet we'll be verifying that its a Nerf.

GO STEELERS!! Smear the Pats! I mean, The "Pat-Swears"
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 11, 2017 - 05:58pm PT
Geez, wazzup with Brady?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 11, 2017 - 08:30pm PT
Pats 0 fer 10 on 3rd down?
Can the Apocalypse be long?
Still don’t get Da Bears trading Cutler.
Steelers gotta be licking their chops!
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Kernville Annex)
Dec 12, 2017 - 07:52am PT
I luv watchin the Pats get beat. :)

You know it!!!! Way to go, Miami!! Hey Fet.....what were you spraying about dynasties?? The "so called" dynasty's leader couldn't even convert 11 3rd down tries. Wow.

I know......it's gotta be that inflated football again. Bring that weak sauce to Heinz Field, Pat Smears.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 12, 2017 - 09:12am PT
Mooch, how bout some love for Mike Tomlin? Such a quality coach and human being! Youngest Super Bowl winner and the rock of continuity and integrity upon which those Steelers’ sabres are forged!

When I see him working the sideline I see football’s Colin Powell.
When I see Belichick I see The Fisher King.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Kernville Annex)
Dec 12, 2017 - 12:50pm PT
Concur Reilly! Totally on point. I will send my Love letter out today....

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 14, 2017 - 05:41pm PT
Whoever had the idea to use an end zone shot for the live action camera angle should be tarred and feathered.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 17, 2017 - 03:23pm PT
RIP Seahawks.

GO STEELERS!

What a stinker on tap tomorrow! :-/
John M

climber
Dec 17, 2017 - 03:54pm PT
Steelers are taking it to the Patriots..

24-16 4:45 left... Patriots driving..

Edit: held to field goal..

24-19 Steelers. 2:16 left Steelers punt..

Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Dec 17, 2017 - 04:42pm PT
WAs it or wasnt it a catch?

The ball caNNOT MOVE ON IMPACT . . . .(Edit, yeah, with the ground or even if it is) THE GOAL LINE

iNCOMPLETE, was the call(!, ?)
SORRY IM WATCHING PATS / STEELERS AND THE LAST 56 SECONDS ON RECORDED TV

OH MAN INTERCEPTED IN THE END ZONE,
27 / 24 ? PATS WIN
WHAT A LAST 3 MINUTES WOW!

GO NINERS,
A LAST SECOND FIELD GOAL FOR THE WIN!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 17, 2017 - 05:10pm PT
Phookin’ Pats. Can’t argue with success.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 17, 2017 - 05:58pm PT
How about them niners?
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Dec 17, 2017 - 09:50pm PT
Gnome,

The goal line had nothing to do with the act of completing a catch. If a receiver is going to the ground, he must maintain possession when he hits the ground.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Dec 18, 2017 - 07:38am PT
Phookin’ Pats. Can’t argue with success.

Seriously, Reilly??!?! You're gonna praise them for a game that was handed to them by poor officiating?? The INCOMPLETE PASS call was total BS and many of my New England friends who were watching it with me said the same exact thing. James had COMPLETE control of the ball!!! I don't care if the ball crossed the goal line or not. It was where his knee dropped, which seemed to be on the 1 yard line. No question about that. But an incomplete pass??????? NOPE!! Worst call of the entire season!! Merry Christmas, New England. :/

And Paul, show me where he lost possession of the ball. Proof. Bryant did the same thing when stretched to catch that 38 yard reception earlier in the game. Players do it ALL the time when they stretch to put the ball across the plane of the goal line.
Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
Dec 18, 2017 - 07:45am PT
Ball on ground at goal line, both hands off ball=loss of control of ball.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 18, 2017 - 07:48am PT
Mooch, no argument from me but why does New England always get those calls?
And how do those refs sleep at night? Oh, right, they look at their Cayman
Islands bank accounts courtesy of Mr Kraft.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Dec 18, 2017 - 07:51am PT
I’m heartsick. :(


Susan
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Dec 18, 2017 - 08:03am PT
As I said to Paul, show me evidence of "loss of control" or "did not survive the ground", Alan. So easy for you to say that but not provide proof based on your opinion. And lame sports writing from Boston.com obviously favors the call. The Patriots BARELY survived that game, and the overall stats prove it (ie time of possession, rushing yards etc). We already know how some Pats fans are......will take anything given to them, right or wrong. However, I was pleased that my NE friends who were watching the game with me, called it BS as well. At least some people have deep integrity.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 18, 2017 - 08:14am PT
And what happened to 'breaking the plane'?
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Dec 18, 2017 - 08:18am PT
Additionally true. Players stretch all the time in order to place the ball past the goal line. I have reviewed that video over and over again and I have yet to see "loss of control" or "failed to survive the ground". I do know that his knee touched first before the ball crossed the plane. So, I was Ok with the TD be overruled, knowing the ball would be placed on the 1-yd line. But this is the worst call I've witnessed in years.
WBraun

climber
Dec 18, 2017 - 08:21am PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]

Read the replies also .....
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Dec 18, 2017 - 08:23am PT
NFl blocked the content, Werner. No workie.

[youtube=xHGfsoORqZM&t=26s]
John M

climber
Dec 18, 2017 - 08:24am PT
Breaking the plane only comes into play when the player is a runner. Having made two steps after catching the ball. He didn't make two steps, ( at least I don't believe so, but that was the ruling ) therefore it was still a catch in progress. With a catch in progress, you have to control the ball through going to the ground. If you bobble the ball when the ball hits the ground, then its not a catch.

What some are saying is that the call on the field was for a touchdown, so to reverse the call requires irrefutable evidence. I did not see irrefutable evidence. When he bobbled the ball one can't tell if the arm of the hand that moved off the ball is under the ball, and or is the knuckles of the hand that had control hit the ground first, which caused the bobble and that he regained control before the ball actually hit the ground. The refs say it hit the ground when he bobbled the ball. Hard to see. Could go either way.. hence.. not irrefutable.

LOL.. replay was supposed to fix this. Before replay there were tons of disputed calls. Its still a tricky business.

Edit:
NFl blocked the content, Werner. No workie.

Just click the watch on youtube link.
WBraun

climber
Dec 18, 2017 - 08:27am PT
Mooch

Click "Watch on YouTube" and it works

Somebody from planet "St00pid" had too much money tied up in NE and called the ref thru his earpiece to reverse the call to incomplete ... :-)
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Dec 18, 2017 - 08:56am PT
Thanks guys. Too funny, Werner!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Dec 18, 2017 - 09:02am PT
Mooch ,
You must be an imposing & terrifying Individual if you could intimidate Brady-lovers to doubt any 'gimme' that those cheating, and Bribe -Crazy
Krafts, have manufactured to steal another Top of the heap, play-off berth for the weak and ineffective Patriots football team.
Or?
Those dwags, to think that they call themselves supporters?! they are obviously just . . . . Jock Straps.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Dec 18, 2017 - 09:36am PT
irrefutable evidence

Nothing out there to support it.

Gnome -

No, I'm neither of those things you mention. If the situation was reversed, meaning the Pats got this very poor call, I would still call BS and play it in favor of a completed pass! But, as seen on many sports media sites this morning, the "jock straps"
out there love to side step or bend the views their way, just to say that a Win is a Win.". You got a gift (and a stolen one at that!), not a win, Pats "fans".
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 18, 2017 - 09:37am PT
one might think what the reaction to the play, and the game outcome, would be had the call gone the other way.

The game outcome was expected to be close, and unfortunately in such games the officiating becomes more important. A larger sub-text (from what I could see in the clips, I was at the gym during the game and missed it, not that I would have been able to watch anyway, not televised in the Bay Area) was the loss of Antonio Brown to injury, and the general additional violence added to hits with the intention of injuring players.

But back to this game, without AB the Steelers are not as potent an offense (though obviously still very impressive), and gave the Pats a huge challenge. As I was leaving the gym I checked the game, and with 34 s left and the Steelers on the 10 yrd line with a first down, I fully expected that they would either win, or tie the game forcing overtime.

I was totally surprised upon checking at home that the Pats had won. That sort of game could have gone either way, and the additional challenge of the weather in the pass-heavy offenses of both teams worked to damp down the "shoot out" anticipated by these two great quarterbacks.

On the personal dimension, it was amazing that Rowe, the corner back responsible for giving up the 69 yrd play that setup the red-zone possibilities for the Steelers also deflected the pass that was intercepted ending the game, with 4 s left to play; redemption. This happened not so long ago with Malcolm Butler (sorry or reminding any Seahawks fans that were traumatized by that play). The guys on both teams played with intensity for the entire game, believing that their play could help lead to a win. That's impressive no mater what uniform the player was wearing.

Why there is the need to appeal to some conspiracy theory is beyond me. The Pats are not the team everyone thought they might be this year, and that makes the AFC more competitive, the Steelers included. Interestingly, that Pats themselves continue to remind the NFL and its fans that it is not so easy to win in the NFL, they are at least good at giving themselves the opportunity to do that.

I was actually hoping that the Pats would loose, because they obviously have to face the Steelers in the playoffs, and loosing now would have been a greater motivation to their winning later. But that is a superstition born from their win over the Giants in the year they won everything but the Super Bowl, loosing it to the Giants...

I don't know what a pass is anymore either, but certainly many people looked at that play and concluded that it was not a pass by the current definition, and they were the ones officiating the game. That judgement is a part of the game, and in tight games, that judgement might very well determine the outcome, it did in this case.


Full disclosure, I am a life long (since 1961) Pats fan... who fully embraces their recent success after decades of being one of the worst franchises in the AFC... but most of you wouldn't remember that...
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Dec 18, 2017 - 09:50am PT
To all, I hope I wasn't eluding to a conspiracy. That's silly. IMO, we see these kind of plays being executed all the time while attempting to cross a first down marker, making forward progress, crossing the goal line etc. There's black and white to all this. No need for gray matter chat. It's one play, one play only.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 18, 2017 - 09:50am PT
OK, after watching 15 replays I agree that he didn't have control of the ball.
He shoulda done a little aileron roll so he came down on his back, or
pulled the ball into his chest and crawled across the goal line.

Big Ben really made a bad decision on the next play throwing it out into
the flat to a well covered receiver. And then not spiking it for the FG?

Really bad decision. Oh, well, it'll make their playoff matchup even better!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 18, 2017 - 09:50am PT
It is regrettable that the officiating was so loose.
The ball was not in possession, definitely.
Spilt milk, eh?
Big boys don't cry.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Dec 18, 2017 - 02:24pm PT
Fact? Nope. However, I respect your opinion Mouse and Reilly. So, we'll have to agree to disagree. Poor officiating. FACT!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 18, 2017 - 02:42pm PT
Simple solution: Don't go to the ground. Don't throw the ball at the ground. Stand tall in the end zone, like a man.
And stand up for our National Anthem, too.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Dec 18, 2017 - 02:56pm PT
Disclaimer: Pats fan from 1985 growing up in NE.

I don't know about all the other calls or non calls in the game but this was a touchdown call and was automatically reviewed.

He had to maintain control going to the ground. His left elbow hit which forced his forearm and left hand up and his hand rotated completely backwards to the ball. The ball was held somewhat in place by his right hand, the back of his left hand, and the ground. It's clearly seen in one angle. He did not have control when the ball hit the ground.


He should have just secured the ball through the catch instead of reaching and I bet we will see more players do that at least until a possible rule change.

After the call the Steelers could have had multiple chances to punch it in or get a field goal for the tie. The Steelers screwed up the fake spike and the patriots stayed focused and forced the interception. That's a win.

Steelers are one of my top 4 teams and I always enjoy a good game when they play the Pats. When it looked like a TD I said to my son: well that was a good game. And then the last minute fireworks !
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Dec 18, 2017 - 03:16pm PT
I think it was the correct interpretation of the current rule. And the more I look at these controversial catches the more I think the rule is good. People say but it looked like a catch, then I say looked like a catch to who? You've got to have some clear guidelines that can be applied or these calls would be even more controversial.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 18, 2017 - 03:36pm PT
We should adopt rugby rules. The ball has to be put on the ground.
No breaking the plane while you sail out of bounds. In rugby James
would have scored. He had the ball in his control even if he bobbled it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 24, 2017 - 01:53pm PT
Thr Niners might have something going with Garoppolo!
He's lighting up the Jaguars!

Another crappy start for Russel Wilson. 3/9 I think he needs to get
more sleep at night instead of during the first halves of his games.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Dec 24, 2017 - 04:09pm PT
The Jason Garret show? Really? Maybe he should focus on developing a winning team.

Elliot spends six weeks vacationing in cabo on the team's dime. Rough suspension.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 28, 2017 - 05:24pm PT
The PAC-12 has not done well in bowl games so far this winter, but things start up in earnest tonight.

Oregon was blown out by Boise in Las Vegas. (Duh, Boise always wins the Las Vegas Bowl.)

Utah had a great victory over West Virginia. Utah coach Whittingham has won all but one of the bowl games he's coached Utah in. (and that one loss doesn't count, since it was against Boise in the Las Vegas Bowl, see above.)

Then Arizona lost to Purdue & UCLA lost to Kansas State.

Sooooo! The PAC-12 can start to redeem itself tonight with Stanford vs Texas Christian, previously know as C.U.N.T. (Christian University of North Texas.)

And my beloved WSU plays Michigan State in the Holiday Bowl, at the same time Stanford is playing.

Go PAC-12!
WBraun

climber
Dec 28, 2017 - 05:30pm PT
St00pid gross materialists chasing a st00pid little leather ball ..... :-)
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 28, 2017 - 05:38pm PT
WBraun! Per your remark:
St00pid gross materialists chasing a st00pid little leather ball ..... :-)


Exactly Correct! And it teaches those lads teamwork, gives them a sense of self-worth, & how to take orders, & how to cheat, & inflict injury on other humans too.

The all-American sport!

(who you watching?)
WBraun

climber
Dec 28, 2017 - 05:47pm PT
Who am I watching? I watch whoever is playing.

I love football and played a ton of pickup games for many years.

Quarterback and wideout (wide receiver) cause I had the speed to outrun them, I was a sprinter in track and field.

I'm a st00pid gross materialist ..... :-)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 28, 2017 - 05:48pm PT
GO NAVY! An impressive win. A salute to Army's great win. I always
love to watch the academy games cause you see smart, disciplined young
men usually displaying admirable sportsmanship. That said I saw a little
too much showboating by some midshipmen today. Just play the damn game!

Fritz, I'll actually be rooting for the Cougs, but don't spread it around.
Stanford should have no probs tonite.
Dawgs are gonna chew on Penn State!
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 28, 2017 - 07:47pm PT
WBraun! Thanks for your participation.

At halftime & soon after, I'm mostly watching Stanford, since they are looking good against C.U.N.T.

WSU is missing their PAC12 all-time passing yards leader Luke Falk, due to a hand injury, & is hard to enjoy. MSU looks like an easy winner.

However, WSU came back from a 21 point 4th quarter deficit to Boise this fall, & likely due to direct divine intervention, won in overtime.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 28, 2017 - 09:39pm PT
Sigh.

All is now sadness in PAC12-ville. Both WSU & Stanford lost tonight.

That's 1 win to 5 losses in holiday 2017 bowl games for the PAC12.

Sigh.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 28, 2017 - 10:58pm PT
Pac 12 admission standards are too high.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 29, 2017 - 08:05am PT
It was noted last night by the commentators that TCU had never lost a bowl game with a PAC-12 team. Checking stats this morning, I find they have only played 3 bowl games with PAC-12 teams, but yep, they've won them all.

TCU seems to do much better in bowl games with Left Coast teams, than in other bowl games. Their record is only 1 win in 3 bowl games against Boise.
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Dec 29, 2017 - 07:06pm PT
Pac-12 not looking too good.

USC's quarterback is slipping to the second round.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 29, 2017 - 07:18pm PT
I'm not too sure about that. When he has had any time he has been impressive.
He has the best arm in the college game that I've seen in a couple years.
He's also got surprising speed of foot.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 29, 2017 - 07:34pm PT
I am watching (hated) USC losing vs (hated) Ohio State.

After this game, the PAC-12 will be 1 win for 7 losses in bowl games this winter.

Can Washington win one for the PAC-12 team?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 29, 2017 - 11:15pm PT
Dawgs are gonna need to start stronger than they did most of this season. Coach Pete is
gonna have to dig into his old BSU Trick Playbook too.

Couldn’t believe how the Stanford D caved last night. They didn’t cave against us but then we
didn’t change anything in our game plan, just like in our other loss to that average, if inspired,
lot from AZ. Peterson got way too conservative and predictable when he moved to Seattle.
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Dec 30, 2017 - 04:41pm PT
Stanford should have no probs tonite.
Dawgs are gonna chew on Penn State

Let me guess Reilly, it was the officiating again, right?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 30, 2017 - 04:46pm PT
Ha! Not exactly. I didn’t see the second half but they were clearly out-played and out-coached.

Pac12 1-8! At least Washington made a game of it.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 30, 2017 - 04:53pm PT
Sigh for Washington & a big sigh for the PAC-12.

from ESPN:

The Pac-12 finished 1-8 in bowl games, which is the worst single-season bowl record in history for a Power 5 conference (minimum five games). The previous worst was the Big Ten in 2008, which went 1-6, according to ESPN Stats and Information. Utah, which beat West Virginia 30-14, was the only school to register a win.

I watched the last quarter of the WA/Penn State game with a heavy heart.

Damn if Washington didn't make a game of it, with some Coach Pete trickery on the last play, as time ran out.

Sigh.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 30, 2017 - 05:52pm PT

Not terribly happy, but hey, here's to U Utah!

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 31, 2017 - 02:19pm PT
Niners actually look good even if they’re playing the Rams’ subs.
Garoppolo has a gun for sure. Pats were stoopid to let him go.

Wow! That cheap shot on Goodwin was the worst I’ve seen in a while.
Countess should get an 8 game suspension. There’s no excuse.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 1, 2018 - 05:02pm PT
How bout them Dawgs!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 6, 2018 - 10:48pm PT
well Tad, you got the 49er's game right up thread, but you're on a serious streak since then!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 7, 2018 - 08:02am PT
well we'll see, certainly JimmyG makes it interesting to watch football again for some reason. It's great for him to get a chance, and the 49ers have a lot of talented young players, and some serious room to deal this year.

If it works out and Garappolo improves on his craft it will be interesting to watch a Pats v. 49ers SuperBowl in the next few years (the Pats win, of course).

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 7, 2018 - 09:57am PT
who knows what is going on.

I think Lynch's recalling of Belichick's response to "how about Brady?" indicates that the Pats recognize their current quarterback as the best chance for success in the near future.

Garopollo has been in the league for 3 years and was going to be a free-agent, one that wanted to play, which he wasn't going to do at New England unless Brady couldn't. It is odd that the loudest voices saying that the Pats made a bad deal were silent, (or even in some case equally loud) prior to the trade saying that Garopollo was an unknown quantity and likely turn out the same as other New England backups when they transitioned to other teams (think Matt Cassels, the most promising of the bunch, who guided them through a 10 and 5 season).

The fact of the matter was that Garopollo was not a "sure thing" of a trade. Hindsight is 20-20 as they say. But good for him, he works hard, and is good, and he demonstrated it.

This does make it an interesting issue for the Pats as they have to time their next quarterback to be ready for Brady's departure (however that happens). But JimmyG was, amazingly, too early. Given that Brady is still making an effort that gets them to the playoffs (with a number 1 seed at that) and is the least expensive starting quarterback (not entirely sure, but certainly plays well below what he could get on the market) would seem that Belichick will continue to want Brady playing with the Pats.

So along those lines I don't understand the Brissett trade to the Colts, but maybe the players they got will be important in the playoffs, we'll see.

Meltdown? I don't think so, but it is somewhat fatiguing that they are in the hunt year after year for more than a decade. Even I am looking at 49er highlights and cheering for them... weird.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 7, 2018 - 10:08am PT
If the Pats are looking for stopgap insurance, I hear that Alex Smith is on the trading block.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2018 - 02:13pm PT
I'd like to see a Steelers/Vikings SB but I fear the Falcons will beat the Norwegians.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 13, 2018 - 09:08pm PT
and last! in a loosing effort!!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 14, 2018 - 02:59am PT
tsk-tsk. Another losing effart.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 14, 2018 - 10:20am PT
Nice reffing! Jones slipped on his cut and as he got back up the DB blatantly pushed him
back to the ground! NFL refs are so corrupt. Of course, if Jones had caught the ball anyway
he woulda come down out of bounds.

Can’t wait for Steelers/Pats!
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jan 14, 2018 - 10:23am PT
RIP Keith Jackson
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 14, 2018 - 01:15pm PT
GO VIKINGS!
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Jan 14, 2018 - 01:21pm PT
Born and raised in Minnesota, suffered through all four SuperBowl losses.

This year would be particularly painful to see them go to the SB and lose, again.

Game is about to start, SKOL Vikes! ..please...
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Jan 14, 2018 - 02:43pm PT
Jones slipped on his cut and as he got back up the DB blatantly pushed him
back to the ground! NFL refs are so corrupt.

Reilly, would you have been satisfied if they gave the Falcons first and goal on the one?

No one wants the officials to decide the outcome of a game, especially a playoff game. The defensive player simply put his hands out to stop his momentum and avoid going up the back of Jones. One could even argue that Jones was initiating contact by trying to stand up in the defenders path.


GOOD NO CALL

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 14, 2018 - 03:15pm PT
As a former DB I'm all for lettin' 'em play. But pushing a guy to the
ground is way more than hand checking and bumping. Yes, I think it
merited a first and goal. I don't like officials deciding a game but I
am more against letting cheaters decide a game. Besides, it was Philly.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 14, 2018 - 04:37pm PT
Vikes can't get a punt off? Not SB worthy.
Paul S

Mountain climber
Portland, Or
Jan 14, 2018 - 04:42pm PT
Geez Reilly, first you say he slipped, then you say he was pushed to the ground.

The quarterback was out of the pocket!!!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 14, 2018 - 04:44pm PT
Dood, he slipped on his first cut, then as he tried to get up the DB pushed
him back to the ground. For Pete's sake, Stevie Wonder saw it!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 14, 2018 - 04:53pm PT
Vikes left Brees too much time.
John M

climber
Jan 14, 2018 - 05:10pm PT
what in the world did that safety do?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 14, 2018 - 05:10pm PT
I got Vikings, -5.

KICK THE EXTRA F*#KING POINT!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 14, 2018 - 06:00pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video] I think the defender was avoiding contact prior to the catch on this play, but it don't matter now.

Congrats, Vikes!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 15, 2018 - 08:09am PT
what in the world did that safety do?

Uh, nothing? That ‘tackle’ was emblematic of the lazy undisciplined players lacking in
fundamental skills and intelligence who just want to make the showy plays. If he had stayed
on his feet and wrapped Diggs up he’d be going to the conference championship instead of home. And then he goes into his locker room and blubbers like a baby! Are you kidding me?

But let’s also give credit to the Vikings’ O line and a really good toss by Keenum.
The catch wasn’t bad neither!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 15, 2018 - 09:00am PT
If the Zebra-shirt'd ones had called the flagrant pass interference on the play before, & leading to the blocked punt the game would have continued - The Vikings would have scored on that drive, or not, time and plays- the out come would, for me, have been more true, organic, what ever you call it,
not a contrived by official missed call, or worse, conscious -No Call, let them play, biased by what? attituded.


What a great game!
with out the regular referee interference that badly effects fair play.

A HANDS TO THE FACE GAME, AND A LOT OF -NO CALLS-,THE "LET THEM PLAY, PLAY-OFFS?

IT SAYS TO THE PLAYERS THAT THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH BLATANT OFFENSES.
SO THAT THE GRABBING OF THE SHOULDER AND PULLING THE MAN OFF THE BALL, BEFORE THE PASS ARRIVES IS A 50/50,THAT YOU GET AWAY WITH THE FOUL.

THAT ONE PLAY; THEN SEEN FOR ITS CHANGING THE GAME, THE WAY IT DID,
WAS THE CAUSE OF THE CONCERN FOR HEAVY-HANDED CALLS OF PASS INTERFERENCE, GOING FORWARD, AND THAT LED TO THE COVERAGE ALONG THE SIDE-LINE.

THE JUMPING AT THE MOMENT OF THE PASS COMPLETION, WAS ALSO THE REASON THAT THE PLAY WENT TO A TOUCHDOWN RATHER THAN A CLOCK-STOPPING PUSH OUT OF BOUNDS.

I AM NOT YELLING JUST LAZY, AND NOT GOING TO UN-DO CAPS LOCK.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 15, 2018 - 09:30am PT
Patriots moving inexorably to yet another title
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 21, 2018 - 12:09pm PT
Bummer Chaz,
hope ya didn't drop too much.

Just playing for the love of the game!

This week I like the Patriots (-9 1/2) and the Eagles (+4 1/2)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 21, 2018 - 12:13pm PT
Is THE HAND gonna play?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 21, 2018 - 12:37pm PT
Brady is one of the most competitive guys on earth.

If I were betting, I'd say he'll start.

Patriots are now favored by just 7.5 on this incident.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 21, 2018 - 12:57pm PT
Over-under for the number of Matt Patricia facial close-up shots is 9. I'm betting "over".

We got five in the book now.

For some reason, they can't film that guy enough.




The Jags defensive coordinator, over-under = 1. I'm betting "under".
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 21, 2018 - 02:10pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 21, 2018 - 02:13pm PT
Pats are toast.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 21, 2018 - 02:35pm PT
Well, maybe toast and jam?
John M

climber
Jan 21, 2018 - 02:46pm PT
Jammed up toast? Its hard to count the Pats out. They can score quickly, but they could use Gronkowski.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 21, 2018 - 02:47pm PT
Jags are toast now! :-)
Belichick is beating them at the field position game.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 21, 2018 - 03:12pm PT
That's too bad about Grankowsski. He got hit in the head so hard he'll be on TV next season doing color-commentary.
John M

climber
Jan 21, 2018 - 03:13pm PT
Jam on Toast for the Pats

Just plain toast for the Jags..


Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 21, 2018 - 03:16pm PT
Brady and Belichick - put 'em in the Hall of Fame now, huh?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 21, 2018 - 03:23pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]f'n Brady...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 21, 2018 - 03:28pm PT
Too bad Brady has to go home to a hag every night, huh?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 21, 2018 - 03:39pm PT
I think that was a game...

mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Jan 21, 2018 - 03:50pm PT
skol Vikes
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 21, 2018 - 05:34pm PT
The Vikes are knackebrod.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 21, 2018 - 05:51pm PT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 21, 2018 - 06:06pm PT
Probably better they lost today than get varnished in another Super Bowl.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 22, 2018 - 12:00pm PT
Does anyone want to argue now that Brady isn’t the best QB to ever play the game? That was one hell of a fourth quarter. I had my doubts there for a sec.

Plus, all you Californians should rally around another CA native.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 22, 2018 - 12:05pm PT
Yep. I'll argue the point.
[Click to View YouTube Video]It is Monday morning, right?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 22, 2018 - 12:33pm PT
Steve Young was better than Brady. He just didn’t have Belichick and short white guy
receivers who played way above their pay grade.

Hard to discount Joe, too. Steve had crazy scrambling skills. Even Joe made Brady look
slower than he is.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 22, 2018 - 12:59pm PT
Almost everyone overlooked Brady in the draft because he's not a great athlete. What makes him the GOAT (besides his arm, which is a prereq to even be in the conversation) is his mental capabilities. He is a master at figuring out what a defense is doing and exploiting weaknesses and finding good matchups. He often calls audibles. And goes through his reads really quick to find the best receiver, while often faking the defense out with his eyes. His list of comebacks and game winning drives is ridiculous. IMO he was up there with the best, until the last Super Bowl, with that insane performance where so many plays had to happen just right for them to win he moved into a class by himself.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 22, 2018 - 01:57pm PT
Yo....give Sid Luckman today’s receivers and offensive linemen and sit back and watch the show.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 22, 2018 - 02:11pm PT
Montana a very close 2nd. eagles nfans such a holes it would be pretty darn hard to root for philly. At least if you root for NE you are rooting not just for the mas#@&%es but also all of NH,VTand ME
plus its nice to see Goodel get screwed:)
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 22, 2018 - 03:45pm PT
What are CT and RI chopped liver? ;-)

They were first the Boston Patriots, when they moved to Foxboro they wanted to be the Bay State Patriots, but thankfully the NFL kyboshed that. New England Patriots just sounds right.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 22, 2018 - 11:22pm PT
Hey, I missed everything. Which non-Hawks or non-Niners team is playing whom (unfortunately non-Raiders team)?
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 23, 2018 - 03:07am PT
Forgot about RI and assumed that CT are Giants fans.
BigB

Trad climber
Red Rock
Jan 23, 2018 - 11:00am PT
Give Johnny Unitas todays receivers and nobody would touch his stats...
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 23, 2018 - 02:09pm PT
stats don't mean much. winning is everything in that game...... Brady got the winning thing pretty well figured out....
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 23, 2018 - 03:08pm PT
T Hocking....I can see you’re a NFC guy. Well I’m an AFC guy and it’s all because of Joe Willie Namath. There was a culture war back then as there is now and the Colts with there buzz cuts and square jaws were definetly part of the establishment.
And there was Joe Willie sitting in a lawn chair by the pool, shaggy hair, drink in hand, twinkle in his eye, cockily guaranteeing a win even though the Jets were huge underdogs. Yo...and didn’t it happen. I believe 16 to 7 was the final count.
Ever since that game this boy from Philly has been a diehard AFC fan. I still identify them as anti establishment although I no that’s silly.
Go Patriots!
By the way, I watched that game at the Cowboy Bar in Jackson Wyoming. The cowboys at the bar, Colt’s fans to the man, smiled indulgently at our group raucously rooting for the Jet’s. Those smiles turned to sneers when the outcome became obvious and I learned for the first time that cowboys had no idea how to throw a straight punch.

Edit: For those unaware this was before the American Football League merged with the NFL and became the AFC. At that time, the Colts were in the NFL,They later became members of the AFC.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 23, 2018 - 03:53pm PT
No TV here...a blessing usually.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 23, 2018 - 04:09pm PT
Tad, that's exactly what happened when I quit the Raiders' fan club, but in reverse!

I'd moved down to Oxnard/Camarillo in '81 and the next season Al Davis moved the club to LA, holding practices in Camarillo.

During the playoffs of '82 I got aboard the 49er bus and lo and behold they won SB XVI.

I bought a 49ers SB XVI cap and have rooted for them and against the Raiders since.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 23, 2018 - 04:17pm PT
when I was hanging at the cowboy bar in 81 and 82 their favorite song on the juke box was the Jerry jeff walker rig Redneck Mothers. Poked my head in there 2 summers ago to show Isa my old watering hole. Its a total upscale tourist trap now. a steak was $80.00
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 23, 2018 - 04:28pm PT
certainly rooted for Montana a fair bit BINTD. still have a few Montana football cards. I was more of a NY Giants fan but respected montana and the 49er team. not a huge Football fan anymore. no TV and have no even gone over to a friends house to watch the super bowl in 4 or 5 years.....
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 24, 2018 - 02:35am PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jan 24, 2018 - 05:49am PT
Joe Willie was a slack-jawed alabama faggot...See the long fur pimp coat...That victory over the colts was a fluke...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 24, 2018 - 08:02am PT
Joe Willie was gud theatre. Great arm, not the sharpest chisel on the bench - poor interception ratio
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 24, 2018 - 08:28am PT
Apparently, this is too inflammatory for the NFL.


https://www.stripes.com/news/nfl-rejects-super-bowl-ad-from-veterans-group-that-asks-players-to-stand-during-anthem-1.507977#gallery

And they wondering why viewership is down.



EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Feb 4, 2018 - 08:38am PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 4, 2018 - 10:22am PT
And I've found out that JT is not appearing at half-time because he has the flu!

And my source tells me that the last-minute substitutes are gonna be these guys.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
[Click to View YouTube Video]
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Feb 4, 2018 - 11:22am PT
Jody...That's what i heard...Also heard he's wearing a fresh pair of underwear and he's going to take a knee during the star spangled deelio...?
canyoncat

Social climber
SoCal
Feb 4, 2018 - 12:21pm PT
Puppy Bowl for the win. I look forward to it all year. I heard some of them will be taking 4 knees.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Feb 4, 2018 - 12:33pm PT
Jody, pretty sure the Nuge is going to perform at halftime. You’re a patriot, the Patriots are going to win, life is good.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 4, 2018 - 12:41pm PT
GO
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 4, 2018 - 01:17pm PT
Amen, Brother Hocking.

Let us pray for a win for the Eagles.

Brotherly Love Abounds!!

And take that political crap out to the back yard, you jerks.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 4, 2018 - 01:20pm PT
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Feb 4, 2018 - 01:25pm PT
If the game follows mostly tradition, the commercials will be the high-light
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 4, 2018 - 01:45pm PT
Commercials are the reason NFL is a two-screen event at my place.

Especially the commercials that run longer than 30 seconds. If you can't sell me your sh#t in 30 seconds, I don't even want to know what it is.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Feb 4, 2018 - 02:52pm PT
I'm going to start watching the game in 3D!

Pat's for the win and both Belichick & Brady retire!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 03:01pm PT
Only way Belichick is going out is feet first.

Don’t have a dog but I guess I’m more for the Pats as Philly blows in everything except history.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 4, 2018 - 03:25pm PT
Take the Patriots - give the points (4 1/2)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 03:43pm PT
Game ovah! School is in session.
Pats can mail it in from here.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:01pm PT
OK, the Ram ad takes the lead. Dumb but entertaining.
John M

climber
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:05pm PT
oh man... is that missed extra point going to haunt the gamblers?

2 seconds of funny on the ram commercial.

I didn't realize that the winter olympics were starting this week.
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:06pm PT
I liked the Ram ad. Mild enjoyment, but so far the best
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:07pm PT
I know he’s a midget but how do you leave Amendola uncovered?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:11pm PT
Chris Collinsworth adds so much to the game....
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:12pm PT
Jesus Christ. is it garbage time already, so early in the 2d qtr?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:14pm PT
Oh, yeah, Chris C is like oxtail soup when the tail doesn’t get cleaned.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:20pm PT
I guess they’re letting ‘em play if that doesn’t get called. 😳
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:21pm PT
LMAO...!!!!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:46pm PT
Brady’s hands are fine but my mom is faster downfield.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:50pm PT
Stopped rooting for the Esgles after Chuck Bednarik retired....go Pats!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:52pm PT
We got us a game! Time for a brewski!
How many have the kickers had?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:56pm PT
She was purdy gud at kicking my azz!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 04:59pm PT
Damn! My mom can definitely tackle better than those joy boys.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 05:04pm PT
Straight outta Boise St!
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Feb 4, 2018 - 05:05pm PT
cheeky call
good on Philly
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 05:13pm PT
Bottom line - Philly is more physical. Their O and D lines are in control.
Their receivers are out-muscling the NE backs, and their runners are good.
I remember being surprised when NE traded Blount. WTF?

And what kind of football fan thinks that halftime show is entertaining? That shiz would get booed in North Beach!
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Feb 4, 2018 - 05:30pm PT
My numbers are 2 Philly-9 NE.
7 points by NE and none by Philly in the second half and I am 1 happy camper!! Never happen but if it does.......
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 05:37pm PT
His hair cut?
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Feb 4, 2018 - 05:47pm PT
There's a football game today? Well shucks.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 4, 2018 - 05:55pm PT
Well, I just woke from my first half nap, cuz the only one that matters, really, is the last half. This way I avoided the crap halftime show.

So I took the free trial offer of Fubo TV and am now watching the excitement en espanol. And the pace of Spanish makes it much more "urgen," I must say!

The language of football is primarily visual, so, no loss. Cris Collinsworth, Tony Dungy, and Rodney Harrison are better than Joe Buck, but this is totally different and more entertaining, I'm sure.

Nice throw/catch by Brady and Gronk to get things rolling.

And Toshdown! by air from Foles to Clement! Olé!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:02pm PT
Es bueno!

"How you like it now, amigo?"
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:06pm PT
Shoulda had Aerosmith for the halftime show, eh?
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:08pm PT
tyler ad dq'd for automatic transmission

SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:12pm PT
More like Halftime malfunction

Ha! There was a half time show? Go Pepsi!

Susan
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:15pm PT
I only know one Timberlake tune. And he didn't sing it.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:16pm PT
Philly's D is going to have to make a big play.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:18pm PT
Pats have put zero pressure on Foles.

THIS JUST IN! WE HAVE A DEFENSIVE STOP!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:25pm PT
I didn't know Eli Manning was such a good dancer. Interesting ad, que no?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:27pm PT
My mom dances better.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:36pm PT
Money.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:38pm PT
Gronk otra vez! Toshdown!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:39pm PT
Alexa, you a dumb &*#$! I got a free one and put in the drawer after a day.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:48pm PT
Alexa...nothing like an open mic in your house...but anyway it was a good ad. Loved Anthony Hopkins.

Every ad is more like a Hallmark Card. Heart strings getting tugged. Oh oh oh


Susan
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:50pm PT
Tiempo de espera en Filadelfia. Putting together a drive. Don't blow it...
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 4, 2018 - 06:55pm PT
Susan, you are so right about the ads. The Hyundai ad was a real tear-jerker.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:03pm PT
That was Brady's water loo right there.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:04pm PT
Told ya
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:04pm PT
¡Defensa!

¡Y un fumble!

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:04pm PT
At least there was no doubt about that!

Zebras blew it again.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:07pm PT
He took three steps after the catch. How is he not a runner?

Ref's got it right.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:09pm PT
buzz'd so I just missed ( 32 to 33 when i started walkin' )& 38 to 33 ?
missed a TD,


had a tv on, can back it up


bumpin Brady ddrops da ball, game over
kinda like good night Gisele

Tom to the hawt 1; "not tonight,1"




"i've got a ache".
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:10pm PT
I smell overtime.
monolith

climber
state of being
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:12pm PT
Nick Foles, one of the best comeback stories ever.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:14pm PT
And Elliot's field goal pretty much ices the win for the Eagles.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:19pm PT
Best team won.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:20pm PT
Good game but Eagles fly high!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:23pm PT
Refs blew it but the best team won.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:25pm PT
The Eagles were golden!
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:29pm PT
On my extended mineral collecting road-trip to the Tuscon Gem & Minerals show, I've spent 2 nights in scenic Silver City New Mexico.

They do have internert & TV here, & I caught the half-time show & the 3rd quarter in Wrangler's Steakhouse.

I'm pleased to share that most of my fellow patrons were Eagles fans & only two patrons were wearing cowboy hats.

That said, Southern New Mexico culture, with its blend of white, Native American, & Latino populations is pretty exotic & fun to me.

And Road runners too!



Woohoo Eagles!
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:36pm PT
I may be a western Pa gal, but I’m happy with an Eastern Pa win. Esp since I went to school in Philly.

Yes!

Susan
mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:46pm PT
To keep it climbing related-

Justin Timberlake was wearing a bear ears shirt during the halftime show.

72%sure after boozing all day.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:52pm PT
mucci! Re your mention:

Justin Timberlake was wearing a bear ears shirt during the halftime show.

I kinda watched the half-time show, but I have an aversion to looking at Justin. It's jest an old-guy cultural bias,

I know.
WBraun

climber
Feb 4, 2018 - 08:12pm PT
Timberlake danced like a stiff robot.

Throw him off stage!!!

He's embarrassing to watch.

Good Superbowl game though .....
okie

Trad climber
Feb 4, 2018 - 08:28pm PT
Darth Belichik defeated, a victory against the dark side, but the Empire usually strikes back.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 4, 2018 - 08:36pm PT
It was one hellava game.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 08:47pm PT
that was a pretty good game from beginning to end... and a single defensive play tipped the balance after both defenses gave up a lot to the offenses.

on to the 2018 season!

Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 5, 2018 - 05:29am PT
Hands to the face football, constant "holding" & Horse collars ; That Famous Let 'em play-look the other way, no calls,1st half seemed to favor one team. When line-men and safty's are given that much slack the result is a chippy physical game. The game was very good, great given the stats
the HALF TIME SHOW WAS INSULTING!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 5, 2018 - 06:25am PT
it was a great game. I was to weak to cheer for the byods, it is a very boston fan homed thjat throws the shin-dig shinndigg?
a few times over the last few years I've gone by Taco choice, much to my surprise; was up 9 game to 2!
I had a bird named Brady, who helped cheat at cards, The gang all fell victim once or twice so thay gnow I was also born in boston.
so that and needing to get along had me cheering for the ex-champs.
Not this Time but remember how It Was
[Click to View YouTube Video]

that played yesterday!

[Click to View YouTube Video]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/0ap2000000262036/Patriots-game-winning-drive
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Feb 5, 2018 - 07:22am PT
Oh so satisfied!! Nice job, Philly!


STEELERS REIGN SUPREME!!
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Feb 5, 2018 - 07:26am PT
Oh so satisfied!! Nice job, Philly!


STEELERS REIGN SUPREME!!
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 5, 2018 - 07:38am PT
Nothing is better than Joshua Tree on Super Bowl Sunday.
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Feb 5, 2018 - 07:47am PT
They use a tune, "Stand By Me", that helped define my youth, and used it to sell beer...you bastards
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Feb 10, 2018 - 07:56am PT
FOOTBALL FAN TO THE RESCUE

Two boys are playing football in Central Park when one is attacked by a rabid rottweiler. Thinking quickly, the other boy rips a board off of a nearby fence, wedges it down the dog's collar and twists, breaking the dog's neck.

A reporter strolling by sees the incident, and rushes over to interview the boy.

"Young Giants Fan Saves Friend From Vicious Animal," he writes in his notebook.

"But I'm not a Giants fan," the little hero replies.

"Sorry, since we are in New York, I just assumed you were," says the reporter.

"Little Jets Fan Rescues Friend From Horrific Attack," he writes in his notebook.

"I'm not a Jets fan either," the boy says.

"I assumed everyone in New York was either for the Giants or Jets. What team do you root for?" the reporter asks.

"I'm a Cowboys fan," the child says.

The reporter starts a new sheet in his notebook and writes, "Little Redneck Maniac Kills Beloved Family Pet".
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 10, 2018 - 12:56pm PT
Well I have family in Mass. and Philly, but I root for the underdog.

I like the way Foles schooled the Pats on how to run their own trick play, "You see the QB has to be in the end zone and actually CATCH the ball.

Halftime was great. Only recognized 2 songs, but the hundreds of dancers/ extras did a great job, as did JT. Solid dancing and the finale in the stands with the 13 year old kid was genius.
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
Mar 6, 2018 - 12:40pm PT
Thanks for keepin' 'em straight all these years Ed.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22580109/nfl-insiders-predict-preview-2018-offseason-free-agency-trades-signings-cuts
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Aug 2, 2018 - 05:12pm PT
Bears vs Ravens tonight. NBC now
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 2, 2018 - 05:27pm PT
Oh, yeah, John, I so love the Rookie Camp Weightwatchers Bowl! 😉
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Aug 2, 2018 - 08:07pm PT
Bears in position to tie it for OT or go for two points. Good game for pre, pre-season.

Oh wow, the bears missed the two point try. Da bears!
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 2, 2018 - 09:05pm PT
Boise State is going to a New Year's Bowl this year for sure, or not!

Currently # 19 in the ESPN Power Rankings!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 2, 2018 - 09:46pm PT
GO HUSKIES!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 19, 2018 - 08:13pm PT
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/30-things-we-learned-in-week-2-of-the-2018-nfl-preseason/ar-BBM7vq6?ocid=spartandhp

NFL highlight reel, week two preseason.



Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 19, 2018 - 08:23pm PT
HaHaHa! Watched 5 minutes of the RRRRRAIDERS-Rams Saturday. Rookies trying to make the team were bringing it but it was still meh.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 6, 2018 - 05:22pm PT
What the hell? They don't play football in the rain this season?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 6, 2018 - 05:43pm PT
God's pissed off at the NFL right now, but certainly He's not THAT pissed.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 6, 2018 - 07:34pm PT
Jeez, 15 penalties in just the first half between Atl and Philly? Really?
Both teams should undergo concussion protocols.

Foles doesn’t look like a Su;er Bowl champ, does he?
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Sep 6, 2018 - 09:26pm PT
Wicked good finish. Lotsa mistakes but the finish made it worth it.

The NFL is still a thing? Who knew. Some of yall need to turn the boob tube off and get outside more.

That's funny given your moniker..
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 6, 2018 - 11:09pm PT
Couch, it’s bloody dark out. I turned it off after 5 minutes because it was so awful:
fit only for self-aggrandizing refs and commercials.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Sep 6, 2018 - 11:38pm PT
I turned it off after 5 minutes because it was so awful

Yeah, it was a bit painful to watch; the last few minutes were worth it. Didn't stare at the boob tube through the whole thing but checked into it once in a while.

edit: did I write "boob tube"? Where's locker when you need him....
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 6, 2018 - 11:51pm PT
The NFL....a moribund, cozy playground for right wing billionaires totally out of touch with the times. A NASCAR type crash is in the future and justly deserved.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Sep 6, 2018 - 11:57pm PT
The NFL....a moribund, cozy playground for right wing billionaires totally out of touch with the times. A NASCAR type crash is in the future and justly deserved.

Welcome back to web world!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 7, 2018 - 12:00am PT
C'mon you cranky codger, none of those playas are billionaires.
You gonna begrudge them a way outta da hood?
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Sep 7, 2018 - 12:18am PT
I only caught the last few minutes, the philly TD and the almost Atlanta come back. Literally Down to the last second. Great finish.

People who understand the history and complexity of the game typically love it. It’s some of most intense and stategic sports action to watch on the planet. I’ve coached flag football for both my sons for several years and the learning curve to really understand the game and how to play it well is pretty steep. Flag is awesome, it takes out almost all of the injuries and leaves the fun and much of the required skills in place.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Sep 7, 2018 - 11:35am PT
The NFL....a moribund, cozy playground for right wing billionaires totally out of touch with the times. A NASCAR type crash is in the future and justly deserved.

Even if the billionaire owners are out of touch with the times, I don't think that will have much, if anything, to do with its popularity.

If it does crash, I suspect it will be down to the injury/violence of the sport.

Mamas not wanting their kids to play football (I wouldn't either) and fewer fans wanting to watch given the injuries and long term issues from head trauma.

But my football watching actually jumped up quite a bit once my health no longer allowed me to climb.

Although anyone complaining about commercials is doing it wrong. The game takes a little over an hour to watch when you use the fast forward button.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Sep 8, 2018 - 06:13pm PT
Penn State vs, Pittsburgh. Pretty decent game so far.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Sep 8, 2018 - 07:21pm PT
Penn state is now blowing Pittsburgh out. Yawn...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 8, 2018 - 07:27pm PT
Go Huskies!
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Sep 8, 2018 - 09:38pm PT
And sometimes the commercials are better than the game itself. ;)

FWIW,
the game has become much safer in recent years due to improved equipment, rules changes and concussion protocols. It's not as violent today than it was bitd.

Yes and I'm glad they are taking steps in the right direction.

But it is still pretty bad. I took plenty of risk climbing and literally have the scars to show from it.

And a head injury is possible but it's not like a majority of climbers have brain damage the way that NFL linebackers and running backs do.

I think they need squishier helmets.

If you are finding the commercials better than the game, you need to find something more productive to do. Like, I dunno, maybe troll some political threads on supertopo.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Sep 9, 2018 - 12:36pm PT
Go Pats!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 9, 2018 - 06:05pm PT
Da Bears lookin gud in Lambeau!
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Sep 9, 2018 - 06:17pm PT
Da Bears lookin gud in Lambeau!

Yes they are. Kinda surprised Green Bay started Rogers in the first preseason game.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 9, 2018 - 08:14pm PT
^^^^ "Well, well, well, what drama!"--Al Michaels
Third and ten, a 75-yd TD for GB! Rogers does it again.

Up by one, 2:13 left...

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 9, 2018 - 08:17pm PT
Fooking Bears 🙄
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Sep 9, 2018 - 08:20pm PT
Down to the wire...

edit: Matthews really fd up. GB had it in the bag.

edit2: great finish by GB.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Sep 9, 2018 - 08:29pm PT
The game looked like a real turd at halftime too.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 9, 2018 - 08:30pm PT
If you went away at halftime...
this was epic stuff..."stunning," as RahRah Michaels said.

Clay Matthews redeemed his penalty with a very timely sack.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 9, 2018 - 08:35pm PT
What about that doofus Bear who dropped the INT?
Was he on the take? Hands of stone!
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Sep 9, 2018 - 09:46pm PT
What about that doofus Bear who dropped the INT?
Was he on the take? Hands of stone!

Listening to the announcers it seems like he has a history of dropping possible interceptions.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 9, 2018 - 09:53pm PT
A history? More like a list of priors. He better not go out on the town for a while, like ever.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Sep 9, 2018 - 09:57pm PT
So who among you plan on burning their Nikes in protest of the Kapernick ad deal?

I'm thinking of going short on their stock.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Sep 10, 2018 - 07:42am PT
A tie with the Brownies? Someone is looking the other way. Geez!
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Sep 10, 2018 - 11:38am PT
Go Pats!

I'm not a Pats fan, but I enjoy watching Brady play.

Gutsy comeback for Rogers, but that dropped interception should have been the game for the Bears.

Glad I "reached" to draft Tyreek Hill on both my fantasy teams.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 10, 2018 - 07:56pm PT
I might be done with the NFL. Aaron Donald makes a clean tackle on Carr and gets called
for Roughing the Passer? Why don’t they just start playing flag?
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Sep 10, 2018 - 08:23pm PT
WTF? When did GB trade Jordy Nelson? Why? He was one of their strongest receivers.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 10, 2018 - 09:28pm PT
March On Lynch.
[Click to View YouTube Video]1st quarter MNF

Sorry, the video was "blocked." Ha ha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1-3V6-CjEg&feature=onebox
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 23, 2018 - 11:18am PT
Niners are rollin’!


Backwards.

Somebody please go check on Hocking!
Course he should be used to this by now.

OMG! Did you see Garopolo miss that guy who was a good 5 yards from the nearest DB? 😔
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 1, 2018 - 08:21pm PT
Hella game in Denver! 2 minutes to go. Will The Kid pull it off? I say done deal.

edit:
The Kid has that ‘je ne sais quoi’, n’est ce pas?
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Oct 6, 2018 - 12:42pm PT
TX/OU went down to the wire. Sooner's almost pulled it off. Nail biter at the end.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 6, 2018 - 04:42pm PT
Florida St. 27
Miami 28

Last 1:24 of 4th...talk about a "basketball finish." Time out, time out, time out.

And Miami gets a first down to clinch the win.

Miami had to overcome a 27 - 7 deficit.

Go 'canes!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 6, 2018 - 06:23pm PT
24-7 at the half in the Rose Bowl. Second half will get ugly for the Boo-Boos.

Go Dawgs
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Oct 6, 2018 - 07:32pm PT
ND/VA Tech is shaping up to be a good game.

Later: or not.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Oct 7, 2018 - 10:59am PT
Thanks Odell.

Nice kick.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 7, 2018 - 11:28am PT
Well, Tad, I’m afraid me pooches don’t have the killer instinct, but credit the Boo-Boos for putting up a fight. I’m very apprehensive about going into the Duck Pond next week. We often dog paddle around there somewhat aimlessly.

edit:
How bout them Jets puttin a whoopin on the Donkees? 322 yds of ground poundin for the Jets!

Chiefs go to 5-0 with The Kid.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 7, 2018 - 04:13pm PT
The Raiders stink so bad that the gang members in L.A. have quit wearing their gear.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Oct 8, 2018 - 07:55am PT
24-7 at the half in the Rose Bowl. Second half will get ugly for the Boo-Boos.

Go Dawgs

Those gutty little Bruins managed to make a game of it. Reilly, were you there? I sat in the end zone with 5 friends from Seattle. We sat above the UCLA student section. They were impressed with the UCLA co-eds.

I was walking to the box office when a guy gave me 4 free tickets. The Rose Bowl was half full. Sad!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 8, 2018 - 08:31am PT
Dawgs are underachievers and the Bruins have unrealized potential, except in the coed dept.

What I don’t get is why Peterson threw away his Boise St playbook when he came to us.
I really don’t like his play calling.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 14, 2018 - 10:00am PT
Lions must have a bye this week because they're not on TV in L.A.

For some reason all 5 Lions games this season have been televised in L.A.

Used to be we'd only see the Lions on Thanksgiving. Now, it's every week a Lions game. And they're losers just like they always were.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 14, 2018 - 10:03am PT
Chaz, the NFL’s obsession with parity even makes them put games on
that nobody in their right mind would watch.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 14, 2018 - 10:15am PT
For once I'm happy to see The Rams. They're in Denver, Colorado where it snows sometimes and might be snowing today. Looking forward to that.

Rams favored by 3 1/2 points.

EDTI:

Correction: Rams favored by 7. Must've quit snowing.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Oct 14, 2018 - 12:56pm PT
Pittsburgh/Bengals coming down to the wire. Bengals leading, Steelers getting the ball back with around 1:20 remaining. Good game
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 14, 2018 - 12:56pm PT
John, you in a separate reality?

I think the Rrrrrraiders have supplanted the Brownies as the worst team.
They can only manage one FG against the Sea Squabs?

edit:
I guess I was in a separate reality. Google was telling me Steelers 28 - Bengals 0 !!!!!
That’s why the intardnet sucks!
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Oct 14, 2018 - 01:26pm PT
John, you in a separate reality?

Actually, yes I am. I'm living in Little Rock so see different games than on the west coast.

The Steelers/Bengals game was pretty good. Steelers pulled it off with 1:19 left when they received the kick. Marched down the field and got a TD and 2 point conversion.

Browns have sucked for so long. Wasn't too long ago the Bengals rivaled the Browns for worst team in the NFL.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 14, 2018 - 03:26pm PT
Rams butting the Donkeys around gud!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 14, 2018 - 05:50pm PT
Dante Hightower grabs an errant Mahomes pass and takes it close, then one play later, BOOM!

Pats lead is 3-10.

Enjoy the contest, Tad.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 14, 2018 - 06:41pm PT
Haven’t I seen these Patriots guys somewhere before?
Isn’t their motto like “Just win, baby!”?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 14, 2018 - 06:43pm PT
Looks like 'clobberin' time' in Boston tonight.

Wake me when you go-go.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 14, 2018 - 07:39pm PT
Chiefs are making it happen.

26-27

Last quarter begins....
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 14, 2018 - 08:23pm PT
Ohmigosh, it's 40-40, @ 3 minutes in regulation.

Incredible comeback.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 14, 2018 - 08:58pm PT
no problem... leave 3 minutes to the Pats in a tie game and you're probably going to loose at Foxborough...

just sayin'

great game though, for the offenses...
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Oct 15, 2018 - 11:17pm PT
Pats might not be finished just yet but that was not a convincing win. They had a 15 point lead at the half and let KC come back and take a lead at Foxboro. And it sounded like KC had a more serious injured list than the Pats.

Pretty good for the kid's 7th NFL start.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 21, 2018 - 06:25am PT
Programming alert:

The games today start at 6:30 am Yosemite Valley Time, Tennessee vs San Diego live from London England.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Oct 21, 2018 - 09:08am PT
How bout them overlooked WSU Courgars! They beat #12 Orygun (for the 4th year in a row) & now have the best record of any team in the PAC 12!
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Oct 21, 2018 - 09:12am PT
Chargers/Titans coming down to the wire.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 21, 2018 - 02:22pm PT
The Noiners kept it close, for 10 minutes.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 21, 2018 - 04:19pm PT
First week all season that The Raiders didn't lose, so things are looking up for them.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 28, 2018 - 06:32am PT
6:30 football this week.

Eagles - Jacksonville from London, England. Philadelphia favored by 4.

Take the Eagles and give the points.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Oct 28, 2018 - 08:49am PT
How bout them WSU Cougars again! Best record in the Pac-12.

Minshew completed 40 of 50 passes for 438 yards and three touchdowns to lead the Cougars (7-1, 4-1 Pac-12) to their third straight win over the Cardinal (5-3, 3-2). This victory follows last week's over then-No. 12 Oregon, giving Washington State back-to-back wins over ranked opponents for the first time since 2002
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 28, 2018 - 09:41am PT
Mike Leach is a great coach. He must be to get kids to go to Pullman. 😉

The Huskies are as done as the Dodgers. Chris Petersen left his mojo at Boise. I’m done with him. His play calling sucks. The weak part of our offense is our line. Everybody knows that, except Petersen. Why does he persist in calling plays that take so long to develope and require guys to maintain blocks so long? Why does every pass play have to go for 20 yards? Oh, because Browning gets sacked so often waiting for his receivers to go deep. We have 3 big tight ends. Browning should be able to hit one of them every time for 8-12 yards but we rarely throw to them.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 28, 2018 - 09:57am PT
To the gamblers there's only one undefeated team - and it's not the Goats. It's Kansas City. 7-0 against the point spread.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Oct 28, 2018 - 04:09pm PT
Packers/Rams

Good game so far. A bit of a teeter totter.

edit: Montgomery is gonna relive that bonehead decision for a loooong time.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 1, 2018 - 05:17pm PT
The 49ers and the Raiders are a combined 2-13.

Should be a hell of a game!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 1, 2018 - 05:56pm PT
The NFL/ESPN schedulers couldn’t see this doozy coming?
I bet the advertisers are asking for a hefty rebate, huh?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 1, 2018 - 06:56pm PT
I wasn't ready for THIS!

Halftime it's all Niners and virtually no Raiders.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 1, 2018 - 07:13pm PT
It's going to be a long flight home for the Raiders.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 1, 2018 - 07:42pm PT
He said ironically.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 3, 2018 - 04:11pm PT
West Virginia vs UT is shaping up. Tied in the 4th.
looks easy from here

climber
Santa Cruzish
Nov 3, 2018 - 05:00pm PT
Way to go Mountaineers. One of the few things that can partially salve an Aggies' loss is a Longhorn's loss.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 3, 2018 - 09:18pm PT
Speaking of UT = Utah, they were leading the S. division of the Pac 12 & got blown out in Tempe today.

7 & 1 WSU at home in Pullman & leading the Pac 12, is tied with CAL at the half. Never a dull moment in Pac 12 football.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 3, 2018 - 09:47pm PT
Way to go Mountaineers. One of the few things that can partially salve an Aggies' loss is a Longhorn's loss.

Yeah, it was good to watch WV pull it out.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 4, 2018 - 03:10pm PT
Sittin here on the couch waitin for the pain meds to kick in watchin me some football. :)

Rams 17, Saints 35 at the half.


C'mon Rams git back init!

Green Bay must be enjoying the Rams meltdown after last weeks loss.

We'll see if the Rams can come back.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 4, 2018 - 03:31pm PT
Rams are doing it.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 4, 2018 - 04:01pm PT
Tied. Saints owned the first half; Rams own the second half.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 4, 2018 - 04:23pm PT
Saints own da Rams.

Seahawks are so average. Russell Wilson’s mojo has gone bye-bye.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Nov 4, 2018 - 04:46pm PT
And, yet again, the Donkeys manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Bad coaching and relentless penalties (among too many other problems to mention).
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 4, 2018 - 05:31pm PT
Now I know the Packers’ D is suspect but THAT was ridiculous!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Nov 4, 2018 - 07:25pm PT
The Rams are coming back to earth. Packers and Cubs T Hocking, a bit of the prairie in you...eh!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 4, 2018 - 07:35pm PT
Packers’ D looked less than impressive early in the season but much better now.

Pats’ Patterson is really impressive. Why didn’t they use him on that 4th and goal?
Sometimes Belichick outsmarts himself.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 4, 2018 - 08:01pm PT
Brilliant play calling. Execution wasn’t bad neither.

Are those Boston fans spoiled or what?
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Nov 4, 2018 - 09:46pm PT
I enjoy watching Brady play but I hope the Pats suck for a long time after he retires.

Not that I bitter much.

Be fun to see if Patrick Mahomes can keep up his blistering record setting pace and whether KC gets a rematch against the Pats this January.

KC vs Rams looks like it might also be a pretty fun game.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 10, 2018 - 08:44pm PT
^^

Depends on which team you wanted to win. Same as the OU vs. OSU game. both were good games.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 11, 2018 - 09:58am PT
For the seventh time this season the Cardinals are facing another must-lose situation.

KC favored by 16. I'm taking KC and giving the points.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 11, 2018 - 12:07pm PT
Wow, Titans putting it to the Pats pretty gud!
More surprisingly the Brownies putting a hurt on the Falcons!
Baker Mayfield - 16 for 19 - 3 TD’s!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 11, 2018 - 01:10pm PT
A minute is gone in the first quarter and da Raiders are still in da game!
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 11, 2018 - 01:18pm PT
No raiders here in Arkansas. Lions and Cardinals had their asses handed to them. Boring blowouts.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 11, 2018 - 01:36pm PT
NFL is so hypocritical. Some guy can be ejected for bumping some pussy with his helmet yet the Rams’ Fowler almost rips the Seahawks’ RB head off with an egregious face mask and walks. So stoopid.

GO HAWKS!

THIS JUST IN: Raiders take the lead! 🤣
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 11, 2018 - 01:42pm PT
Here in AR we are stuck with the stupid Rams game. I'd rather see the Packers game.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 11, 2018 - 03:45pm PT
Be positive! Next week you get to watch da Raiders and the Cardinals! 😳
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 11, 2018 - 04:04pm PT
Rams vs. Seahawks is actually a pretty good game.

edit: well, WAS a pretty good game....

edit: Seahawks still have a chance. Back to a good game.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 11, 2018 - 04:38pm PT
Seasquabs’ D just not gud nuff. Russell Wilson’s hands aren’t big muff.

Tonite: Boys and Beagles - yawn.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 11, 2018 - 04:45pm PT
Fordy Niner.#GladImNotaRam
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 11, 2018 - 04:54pm PT
13 out of 32 teams have winning records right now.

You are what your record says you are.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 12, 2018 - 09:27pm PT
I don't watch much pro-football, but I tuned into the Cowboys - Eagles game on Sunday night to see how Riggens Idaho, 8-man football grad, Boise State standout, rookie Leighton Vander Esch was doing.

Outstanding!

If you were one of the many who hissed and booed when the Dallas Cowboys selected linebacker Leighton Vander Esch with the 19th overall pick in April’s NFL draft, it’s way past time to get on the rookie’s bandwagon.

Vander Esch had a star-making night in the Cowboys’ 27-20 win over the Philadelphia Eagles Sunday that included his first-career interception, a game-saving tackle for a loss on a huge third down and a team-leading 13 tackles. He was a game-changing presence.

Vander Esch has meshed well with Jaylon Smith. Vander Esch leads the team with 77 tackles, including 62 solo tackles. Smith, who is second with 71 tackles and 47 solo. The biggest solo tackle of the season came with the Eagles trailing by a touchdown on 3rd and 2 after the two-minute warning. Vander Esch fought off two blockers to trip up Corey Clement in the right flat for a five-yard loss. Dallas took over on downs on the next play.

Read more here: https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article221549770.html#storylink=cpy

johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 15, 2018 - 06:39pm PT
Packers-Seahawks is looking like a good game.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 15, 2018 - 06:41pm PT
Packers trail the Seahawks who've scored twice in five minutes in the second quarter.

2 min. warning.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 15, 2018 - 06:43pm PT
Rogers TD with :44 left.

Pack takes the lead back just like that.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 15, 2018 - 06:55pm PT
Enjoy halftime!
[Click to View YouTube Video]
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 15, 2018 - 08:22pm PT
But the SheHawks come back to win. Good defensive half for them.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 18, 2018 - 11:24am PT
49ers are also off to a good start this week! Woot!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 18, 2018 - 12:34pm PT
This weekend is the fiftieth anniversary of The Heidi Game.

It's like the TV networks have learned nothing in 50 years.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 18, 2018 - 12:43pm PT
Why, is Heidi on tonight?
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 18, 2018 - 01:01pm PT
Why, is Heidi on tonight?

BITD the Jets were down by two touchdowns with a couple of minutes to go. The network figured the game was done and switched to playing Heidi. Namath led the Jets to the win.

Losta good college games yesterday and pro games today.
chipper_shredder

Social climber
outinthecuts
Nov 18, 2018 - 03:39pm PT
Man this raiders & cardinals game is like a race to the bottom

Even when winning these raiders look ugly

Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Nov 18, 2018 - 04:47pm PT
Great-googly-eyes?!
ya guys aren't watchin yer Chargers?
not that it matters then
but
Some shady zebrastripes calls as the last 2 minutes ran down.
The blatant, was a wrong-way pass interference call against the visiting Brancos. The call was the other way, The booth saw it, called it correctly Davis of the Chargers , if he had looked for it, had a good play on the ball, just had to step in & to grab it. That would have been an interception and ended the game.
Instead Davis the Chargers player, played the Bronco's man, pushing Patrick to the ground. This was obvious in real time and no way that the replay showed different. The play & shady call were not reviewed Couldn't understand it. shoddy dodgy business, it looked like favoring the home team.
Then the Chargers coach was allowed to Ice the kicker with 00:30 (seconds)
on the clock, when that field goal would have won the game, by a point. The ice the kicker play sent mmy host ballistic, the next kick was good too, the Broncos won 23 to 22.
I snuck out to share here to find not a peep about a great Chargers home game.
I was down the street, its dark, raw & cold out side. I was well ensconced in the thick of suburban man-dom, headed for a victory single malt, as the rubes here were unapologetic Broncos fans. I was rooting for your guys,guys
Go Chargers, in my mind.

I guess it was not aired out there?

Dong nabit,
Its to late to go back for a clean up night cap with the ladies waiting to go home.
I'll walk the dog back and just suss it out, at least a can of some smooth chocolate stout... wish me luck.

heh, yeah, good neighbors a local Connecticut brewery's darkest.5.9%AbV. smooth bitter-sweet mocha, not so much chocolate,
that seems more marketing, still an all good beer.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Nov 19, 2018 - 11:17am PT
Nearly another identical TD controversy when Roethlisberger scored against the Jaguars in the final seconds this weekend. Love my Steelers but the ball control and where his knees touched certainly were in question. Last years call against the Steelers when Roethlisberger threw a slant pass to Jesse James was pure crap! Dood caught it.....plain and simple, with the ball passing the line. Merry Christmas Pats.

John M

climber
Nov 19, 2018 - 05:53pm PT
whose watching monday night football?

Rams (9-1) vs Chiefs (9-1)


does either team have any defense?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 19, 2018 - 05:59pm PT
What is that? Like a dozen penalties for KC in the first quarter?

I'm thankful that the good people of Mexico City didn't have to see this.
WBraun

climber
Nov 19, 2018 - 06:02pm PT
I'm watching this game too.

St00pid Americans chasing leather ball ..... :-)
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 19, 2018 - 06:15pm PT
Utah has won the Pac 12 South, in a miserable year for all the other teams in the Pac 12 South.

Washington State at 10 - 1, plays Washington in Pullman this weekend. There is a strong history of upsets in the "Apple Bowl," with both teams really enjoying ruining a stellar season by their hated in-state rival.

Tune in for a hellava game.


Go Cougs!
John M

climber
Nov 19, 2018 - 06:22pm PT
why did they run the same play 2 times in a row? cost them 4.
WBraun

climber
Nov 19, 2018 - 09:16pm PT
Great game.

Will there be a rematch between these two to see who goes to the chasing the leather ball super bowl?
John M

climber
Nov 19, 2018 - 09:43pm PT
they are in different leagues. American league and National league. There are 5 games left in the season. They will not meet again in the regular season. If they both win their league during the playoffs, then they will meet in the super bowl.

A lot of people considered this game to be the super bowl.

but you never know. They could lose in the playoffs.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 19, 2018 - 10:03pm PT
Can’t Mahomes afford a shaver?
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 23, 2018 - 12:51pm PT
Here's a link to a fun ESPN story on this weekend's college rivalry games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25328943/espn-college-football-haters-guide-rivalry-week

The hater's guide to Rivalry Week


I'll be watching this one tonight for sure! Go Cougs!

Apple Cup

No. 18 Washington at No. 8 Washington State
Friday, 8:30 ET, Fox

Year it began: 1900
Overall record: Washington leads 72-32-6
Past five years: Washington leads 5-0

Washington's biggest villain: Ryan Leaf said there was a joke on campus during his time at Wazzu: "What's the difference between God and Ryan Leaf? God doesn't think he's Ryan Leaf." He was brash and arrogant, and he could back it up. And in 1997 in Seattle, Leaf threw for 358 yards and two touchdowns in a 41-35 victory over the favored Huskies and was carried off the Husky Stadium field as the Cougs celebrated their first Rose Bowl berth in 67 years.

Washington State's biggest villain: Hall of Fame coach Don James, the Dawgfather, led Washington from 1975 to 1992 and was 13-5 in the Apple Cup. He also didn't mind needling his rival. "I've always felt that being a Cougar prepares you well for life," James said. "You learn not to expect too much."

Story that best explains the rivalry: In 2002, Washington State was 9-1 overall, ranked No. 3 and could clinch a Rose Bowl berth and a shot at a BCS appearance with a home-field win over a 6-5 Washington team. Wazzu QB Jason Gesser, who shared Pac-10 Player of the Year honors with USC's Carson Palmer, went down with an injury in the fourth quarter, and Washington rallied from a 20-10 deficit to tie the score and force overtime. In the third OT, Washington State backup Matt Kegel threw a short pass that was batted down by Washington's Kai Ellis, who fell on the ball afterward. After an officials' huddle, they ruled it was a backward pass and a fumble, with a Washington recovery, and the game was over, just like that. A near-riot ensued as shocked fans pelted the field with bottles, souvenirs and anything that wasn't bolted down.

Hater's guide to watching this year: This is a high-stakes Apple Cup. A win here for Wazzu would preserve the Pac-12's only hope for a College Football Playoff spot. For the third straight year the winner will win at least a share of the Pac-12 North title, and this year, the winner will face Utah in the Pac-12 title game on Nov. 30. Washington State is one of the country's biggest surprises and hottest teams, going 10-1 behind transfer quarterback Gardner Minshew, with just a three-point loss to USC as their only blemish. Washington, No. 6 in the preseason AP poll, slipped to 8-3. But Huskies coach Chris Petersen is 4-0 against the Cougars' Mike Leach, outscoring him 161-54 in those games, an average outcome of 40-14.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 23, 2018 - 12:59pm PT
Dawgs gonna do some gnawing tonight! Weather favors our superior running game. Look for
100 yds by Gaskin and 80 from Ahmed. The Stache also hasn’t faced the likes of our pass D.
31-27 Dawgs
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Nov 23, 2018 - 01:08pm PT
Come on Reilly...you gotta go with the aggie school over those sophisticates from Starbucksville. Washington State 31 to 14.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 23, 2018 - 01:13pm PT
Dood, you callin’ a Husky letterman and card carrying dirtbag a ‘sophisticate’?
Them’s fightin’ werds!
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 23, 2018 - 01:48pm PT
I just checked a Pullman Wa weather forecast. High of 37 f. for the game with rain, sleet, & snow.

Them Dawgs are going to be cold pups & there's not a Starbucks in sight.

I love watching (on TV) football games in Gawd-awful weather.

Go Cougs.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 23, 2018 - 01:51pm PT
It’ll be a battle in the trenches won by the ground pounders. Fix bayonets!
I told Coach Petersen I don’t want to see a pass thrown for at least a quarter.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 23, 2018 - 05:45pm PT
Oh, those poor Cougar fans look so happy!



for now 😈
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 23, 2018 - 06:16pm PT
Snowing gud now. Two long drives, one by each team & two turnovers in the red zone, & 0 - 0.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 23, 2018 - 06:46pm PT
This is like taking candy from chillen.

Dawg O line totally dominant, as I predicted, y’all.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 23, 2018 - 07:20pm PT
14 - 7 Washington at the half. I am surprised the 9 teams in the Pac 12, who rarely if ever have snow on their home fields haven't agreed on rules that cancel snow-games at the half.

Them dawgs ain't looking forward to snow-play in the 2nd half.

Just remember what happened in similar conditions in 1992.

1992: Drew Bledsoe leads WSU to 42-23 victory in Pullman "Snow Bowl"

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 23, 2018 - 07:30pm PT
D will decide this and ours is better.
John M

climber
Nov 23, 2018 - 08:04pm PT
Love snow games, but also love barn burners.

#6 Oklahoma vs #13 W. Virginia

45 to 49 End of 3rd quarter.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 23, 2018 - 08:12pm PT
Love snow games,

Check out Washington vs, Washington St. Great snow bowl.
John M

climber
Nov 23, 2018 - 08:17pm PT
I'm watching it.. Thats why I mentioned snow games. But I'm torn, because the other game on tonight is a barn burner.

Now..

52 to 49

5 lead changes.

Edit:

big mistake by W. Virginia. Long play to 4 yard line called back by penalty for blocking out of bounds. Then a fumble turns into a touchdown by Oklahoma.

59 to 49..
looks easy from here

climber
Santa Cruzish
Nov 23, 2018 - 08:27pm PT
The Airbnb I'm at doesn't have espn, so no OU v. WV, but I'm having a blast watching the Apple Cup. Domes should be banned in football.
John M

climber
Nov 23, 2018 - 08:45pm PT
Looked like W. Virginia had lost heart. But they kept plugging away and scored another touchdown.

Ok 59 vs W. Virginia 56

4:20 to go.

Onside kick.. ball loose on the ground. OK ball.

...

Final Ok 59 to W. VA 56
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 23, 2018 - 08:59pm PT
Cougs had a nice run but way over-rated.
Ninth loss in last ten Apple Cups. 😈
The Stache: 26/35 for 151 yds 0 TDs 2 picks
Jake Browning: 11/14 for 207 1 pick
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 23, 2018 - 09:33pm PT
I'm watching it.. Thats why I mentioned snow games.

Missed that. Although Washington won by two scores, it was a good game. Those were some of the largest snowflakes I've seen.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 24, 2018 - 07:31pm PT

It is weird for how good the Cougs looked all season and how sort of lackluster the Huskies looked. Good on the Huskies! Total respect to the Wazzu Band!
Cal's won, yay.
I could have lived with Michigan trouncing OSU, but I would also like to flap my arms and fly.
Does Cal still have to play Stanford? Go Bears!!!!!

Will the Huskies beat Utah? Really for the Pac12!?
Aeriq

Social climber
Location: It's a MisterE
Nov 24, 2018 - 07:55pm PT
What a crazy ride this upset was!

Ohio-F'ing-State FTW!

Highlights:

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 24, 2018 - 08:06pm PT
No upset - Michigan was waaay over-rated.
So is Notre Dame. Even if they beat this pathetic SC bunch they should drop to #6, or lower.
Aeriq

Social climber
Location: It's a MisterE
Nov 24, 2018 - 08:20pm PT
^^Sorry - terrible game - nothing to see here.

Nevermind and carry on.
looks easy from here

climber
Santa Cruzish
Nov 24, 2018 - 09:58pm PT
Gig 'em Aggies! It took us 7 overtimes, but we finally beat LSU for the first time since we joined the SEC.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 25, 2018 - 05:06pm PT
The Raiders are (arguably) the best 2-8 team in the League.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 25, 2018 - 05:26pm PT
Steelers sleep walked in Denver. Were they hypoxic?

Potentially good game TONITE!

Aaron Rogers has 19 TDs with 1pick!
He could also coach the team.

Check that - 20 TDs and 1 pick
Pity the Pack’s D can’t stop the Sisters of Mercy.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 25, 2018 - 06:12pm PT
Jeezus, does Chris Collinsworth get paid by the word?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 25, 2018 - 06:18pm PT
Give him a break. He played back before concussion protocols were in place.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Nov 26, 2018 - 10:50am PT
Steelers sleep walked in Denver. Were they hypoxic?

One would think that! Especially with Ben practically giving the ball to the Broncos near the end. Fer Krist Sake!.....Antonio was open in the back of the end zone! Instead, Ben threw a noodle arm ball. FK!!!

But some cred should be given to him for that pass to Juju out of the end zone. Took that pig doooooooooowntown! Bad ass stiff arm!

[Click to View YouTube Video]


And I think Clemson can beat Bama.

BWAHAHAHA!! ummmm.....nope.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 29, 2018 - 05:18pm PT
Will the Saints smoke the Cowboys? One of those games that will be a blowout or a grinder.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 29, 2018 - 07:50pm PT
Boise State & Fresno State play in Boise for the Mountain West Conference championship on Sat. night. The outcome doesn't mean schist for the nation, but those in South Idaho & Fresno care.

Here's a link to a fun article in the Fresno Bee on why Fresno hates Boise State so very, very much.

https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/marek-warszawski/article222349560.html
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 29, 2018 - 07:58pm PT
Gotta say I’m rather surprised Da Boyz are hangin’ with the Cherubs although D Town has
the best running back in the league and their D obviously has talent.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Nov 29, 2018 - 08:00pm PT
Dallas grinding so far...

Close game for sure. Refs missed a huge contact to helmet on Dallas. Could have turned the game in the Saints favor.

Dallas sideline seems to be celebrating already; too early, it's still an open game.

Dallas blew it. Prescott leads the league in QB fumbles. Brees may take the momentum to the goal line.

Whoa! Dallas gets it back (under review)! Game on.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 30, 2018 - 08:32pm PT
DAWGS! Hey, it doesn’t always have to be pretty.
Thank God we’re getting a new kicker next year!
Hopefully a new offensive coordinator, too.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 30, 2018 - 09:00pm PT
Reilly! Re your comment on the tonights show of mutual offensive ineptitude between Washington & Utah.

DAWGS! Hey, it doesn’t always have to be pretty.
Thank God we’re getting a new kicker next year!
Hopefully a new offensive coordinator, too.


I'm somewhat surprised you have it in you to brag about such a sordid victory.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 30, 2018 - 09:13pm PT
No such thing as a sordid victory unless it was given to you by the zebras. They tried to help the Utes with a couple of imaginary holding calls. Dawgs shoulda won this 28-3. I did say it wasn’t pretty.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Dec 1, 2018 - 04:34pm PT
Bama - Georgia turned into a game.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 1, 2018 - 04:41pm PT
GA was deer in the headlights. They got too conservative.

6 yd swing passes won’t cut it
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 1, 2018 - 06:32pm PT
For those who enjoy "sufferfests" I offer up #22 Boise State & #25 Fresno State, playing in a Boise snowstorm on ESPN. Fresno leads at the half.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Dec 1, 2018 - 07:49pm PT
This Bama Georgia game is epic!

Georgia's decision to fake the punt and run on 4th and 11 was an interesting gamble. They lost the gamble resulting in Bama's winning TD.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 1, 2018 - 08:25pm PT
Northwestern giving the Buckeyes all they can handle,
Awesome to see amateurs vs pros. I would bet a bundle NW avg SAT scores are 600 pts higher than OSU’s.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2018 - 12:56pm PT
What the hell is going on at Lambeau? The Cardinals are 17-17 with 4 min left? 😖
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 2, 2018 - 01:07pm PT
The Oakland/Alameda County Coliseum looks mostly empty.

Chick Hearn would say a lot of fans came dressed as seats.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2018 - 02:12pm PT
Pitiful Raider ‘pride’.

Russell Wilson is workin’ hard! 3 for 3 for 100 yds and 2 TDs!
Oh, wait, it’s agin the Noiners.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2018 - 07:45pm PT
Someone get over to Mooch’s, the dood is prolly not breathing.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Dec 2, 2018 - 07:52pm PT
Steelers - Chargers is going ON.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2018 - 08:18pm PT
Did the Steelers score too soon?
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Dec 2, 2018 - 08:19pm PT
GO Rams

No love for the lambs since Georgia moved them to St. Louis.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2018 - 08:23pm PT
I agree, John. Don’t like carpetbaggers.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2018 - 08:34pm PT
HaHaHa! Steelers deserved to lose that jumping offside THREE TIMES!
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Dec 2, 2018 - 09:13pm PT
HaHaHa! Steelers deserved to lose that jumping offside THREE TIMES!

Looking at the zoom in's on Rothlesburger's face after each offsides was priceless. Went from a 50 yarder to a 35 yarder. Third time is a charm, eh?
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 2, 2018 - 09:28pm PT
actually the third attempt was from 29 yards
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Dec 2, 2018 - 09:31pm PT
Imo, too many games are getting decided by bad officiating. It's getting really tiresome.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Dec 2, 2018 - 09:39pm PT
actually the third attempt was from 29 yards

Yeah, well, umm, err, was rounding off?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 9, 2018 - 02:41pm PT
Somebody get over to Hocking’s and see if he’s breathing - his Noiners are lighting up the Donkeys!

Somebody lit up the Fish today, too! They ran the Pats ragged!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Dec 9, 2018 - 04:17pm PT
Vance Joseph's deer-in-headlights impression is getting old. Here's hoping for a Donkeys' loss, so that we can finally get rid of him. Donkeys don't belong in the playoffs anyway. Too much squandered talent this year.

Props to Miller for declining to celebrate after his first sack: "Look at the score, guys." Class act, as always.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Dec 9, 2018 - 04:52pm PT
Bye bye, Donkeys. Hopefully, bye bye, Joseph.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 9, 2018 - 09:28pm PT
Monstas Of Da Midway brought da lumba! Think they summarily rechristened Todd Girly.
And what a night for both teams’ DB’s!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 10, 2018 - 05:58pm PT
La Femme said the Seahawks look like they got ‘slimed’! HaHaHa!

Wanna send her into hysterics? Just mention ‘tight end’.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 10, 2018 - 06:02pm PT
Is the game in Seattle? Or Eugene, Oregon?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 10, 2018 - 06:29pm PT
Russell Wilson needs to have a cognitive function test.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 10, 2018 - 08:44pm PT
Hawks’ D early in the season was mediocre. They have gelled.
$84 million for Cousins is an unrealized gain so far.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Dec 13, 2018 - 07:15pm PT
Happy BDay Tadd!

Haven't checked in on tonight's game yet.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 13, 2018 - 08:33pm PT
What a lame PI call on the Chiefs. Williams’ push off for the TD was more egregious.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Dec 14, 2018 - 10:41am PT
The reffing wasn't great. Maybe it balanced out.

So Chiefs and Charges could end up with the two best records in the AFC and one is going to be the #1 seed, with a bye and home field advantage, and the other is going to the #5 seed on the road playing a wild card game.

If the wildcard team has a better record than a division winner, I think the wildcard team should get the better seed.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 14, 2018 - 11:26am PT
August, I just hate to see the refs decide a game.
As an old DB that was a really weak call. Williams
wouldn’t have caught the ball if the DB was 10’ away.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 14, 2018 - 11:47am PT
The pass interference call was to make up for the non-call roughing the passer that happened a couple plays earlier.

It does seem that the zebras have more to do with the game this year than in seasons gone by.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 14, 2018 - 12:01pm PT
Yer right, Chaz. I had just tuned in and only saw the replay of the head butt.
THAT was as clear as day but no replay? WTF?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 14, 2018 - 08:14pm PT
Too much excitement in the booth.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 15, 2018 - 04:15pm PT
Hey Bulldogs!

Vegas Bowl champs.

Beat the Sun Devils 20 -31.

WOOF WOOF!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 15, 2018 - 05:24pm PT
God knows Fresno needs sumpin to be happy about, huh? A proud effort for sure!


GO DAWGS!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Dec 16, 2018 - 09:30am PT
Yes
Just not the local spot & all the drinking
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 16, 2018 - 11:11am PT
How bout them Brownies puttin a hurtin on da Donkees?
That’s gotta hurt bad, especially at home!
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Dec 16, 2018 - 12:06pm PT
Colts look to have the boys by the short hair. Still time left but Dallas just seems to be having a weak day. Dominating offensive time on the field but can't score.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 16, 2018 - 12:28pm PT
Dascott is inconsistent and over-rated.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 16, 2018 - 03:27pm PT
Are Da Boids underachievers or are the Noiners overachievers?
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Dec 16, 2018 - 03:37pm PT
Niners givin the Seabirds a game so far,
tied at 20 in the 4th.

Wish it was on here. Watching Steelers vs. Pats. Could be a good game.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 16, 2018 - 04:30pm PT
Seasqwabs are schizo.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 16, 2018 - 07:33pm PT
Eagles are making the Lambs look weak! But please, Santa, bring a lengthy
case of laryngitis to Chris Collinsworth! I’d almost rather listen to Joe Buck.
Almost.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 16, 2018 - 08:33pm PT
JoJo Natson = the Wendell Tyler of the Twenty-first Century.
10b4me

Social climber
Lida Junction
Dec 16, 2018 - 09:44pm PT
a thirty year old as a headcoach? Please
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Dec 16, 2018 - 10:40pm PT
Let's struggle for an extra yard and stay inbounds and run out the clock...twice!

Yeah, Gurley repeatedly demonstrated bad judgment. Even so, it sure started looking like the Eagles were going to manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the last few minutes.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Dec 17, 2018 - 08:47am PT
Redemption for the Steel Curtain.....especially after last year's BS call against Jesse James.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 17, 2018 - 08:48am PT
mooch, great to see you made it outta da ICU!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 23, 2018 - 10:14pm PT
Russell Wilson outplayed The Kid.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Dec 23, 2018 - 10:29pm PT
I don't know about Wilson but his receivers certainly did.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 26, 2018 - 09:39pm PT
How bout them Boise State University Broncos vs Boston College in the Sugar Bowl today???

The first-ever college bowl game cancelled due to bad weather!!

A foot-note in college playoff history, that also notes the only other football bowl game cancelled, was the Hawaii Bowl in 1941, after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

Go Boise!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 26, 2018 - 10:17pm PT
What? Those Boston powder puffs couldn’t hack it? WEAK!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 31, 2018 - 07:27pm PT
How do you get a proud graduate of The Ohio State University off of yer porch?











Pay for the pizza!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Dec 31, 2018 - 07:31pm PT
Somebody call CMAC right now...
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 5, 2019 - 01:46pm PT
I love it when the team that loses the coin toss but receives the kickoff takes the ball straight down the field and into the end zone.

Good coin toss strategy. Start the game a touchdown in the hole before touching the ball.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 5, 2019 - 02:17pm PT
Not a Colts fan but I like smart people like Andrew Luck.
Retard Texans down two TDs now! 🤣
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 5, 2019 - 04:15pm PT
Remember the Alamo?
[Click to View YouTube Video]
WBraun

climber
Jan 5, 2019 - 05:37pm PT
Number 17 Dallas broken foot just now.

Looked horrible in slow motion .....
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 5, 2019 - 05:40pm PT
RUN IT OFF!
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Jan 5, 2019 - 06:48pm PT
Hawks vs. Boys: Could be a good game. Lotsa injuries. Whoever wins this game will likely be short on players for the next.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jan 5, 2019 - 07:02pm PT
Well! This one's a toughie! On the one hand, I've always somewhat liked Seattle & have mostly hated The Cowboys.

But now! The Cowboys have ex-Riggins, Idaho 8-man football player & BSU standout, Layton Vander Esch playing spectacular defense for them.

Such a dilemma. Sluuurp.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Jan 5, 2019 - 08:18pm PT
Dallas may be celebrating too early. Two minutes is time for two scores by the Hawks.

It's been done before.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 5, 2019 - 08:26pm PT
Seahawks cover the spread.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Jan 5, 2019 - 08:40pm PT
Dallas does it.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 7, 2019 - 08:25am PT
https://patch.com/us/across-america/2019-national-championship-game-date-time-tv-channel-photos


Being played at Levi's Stadium this year in Santa Clara.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jan 7, 2019 - 09:45am PT
USA Today has an article on how the southern Billy-Bob's, attending the game in the center of Liberal-turf, find the locale somewhat disturbing to them.

I suspect the hard-core southern supporters will still bring & wave their Confederate flags, to show those Californians what they believe in.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 7, 2019 - 10:02am PT
Chargers looked pretty good, but it looked like they were going into their inevitable "prevent the win" mode in the 4th. 2 blocked kicks, fumble, DB's falling asleep.

They better score TD's if they hope to win in NE.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 7, 2019 - 10:05am PT
Fritz, have you no compassion?
You ever tried to find decent Hush Puppies in Santa Cruz?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 7, 2019 - 10:20am PT
I would kill a baby Hush Puppy to learn the average SAT scores of Bamma and Clemson
compared to yer average Pac 12 school or, say, Northwestern.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 7, 2019 - 10:45am PT
Yer a heartless sob, Reilly.😜
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 7, 2019 - 11:02am PT
Mouse, the word ‘hush’ is not in a Basset Hound’s vocabulary. 🤓
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 7, 2019 - 08:20pm PT
That was awesome! Best goal line stand of all time!
Hard to believe Clemson’s QB is a frosh. Dood is large and in charge!
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jan 7, 2019 - 08:31pm PT
Reilly! Sorry for a slow reply.

Didn't Hush Puppies come from Gone With The Wind & Scarlett saying:
"You Hush your mouth dear." ??

I was introduced to Hush Puppies & Memphis Dry Ribs by the Tennesse Ex-wife, & her in-bred red-neck family.

Amazingly, the best Hush puppies I've ever et were in a nearby Idaho eatery named the Riverbank. A southerner ran it 4 nights a week & closed it when he got tired of the hassle.

I do have a long term love for them dry Memphis Ribs, the best cultural legacy of the south (& the marriage).

"So dry, you gag when you take a big chew of them."

Too bad both teams can't lose tonight, but it's always a good day when Bama loses. Yeah, the ex-wife was a Bama fan, & but we are still in touch, despite having no spawn in common.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 7, 2019 - 08:37pm PT
Bam! Bam! Bam! Biff! Just keeps comin', huh?

One knows Fritz ain't partial to the color orange. I understand, really I do!

Not my favorite color, either, here lately.

EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 8, 2019 - 06:49am PT
It was quite generous for those two teams to play for the national championship in a region known for substandard teams.

I mean really... when was the last time a West coast team even made it to the championship game? 10 years? 15?

Great game!

Go Tigers!!!

Dabo - you da man!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2019 - 12:42pm PT
Go Chiefs!
Rams = carpetbaggers. meh

Hey! Where’d Da Bears go?
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Jan 12, 2019 - 12:53pm PT
Cowboys @ Rams
Go LA!

Should be interesting. I'm a fan of the boys (not their management). Have zero interest in the Rams since Georgia moved them from SD to STL.

My guess is Dallas will get trounced.

Hey! Where’d Da Bears go?

The kicker likes to see if he can hit the goal posts and see them bounce. Seems to have missed that one needs to put the ball BETWEEN the goal posts. Sad loss. Da Bears.
Chaz

Trad climber
Jan 12, 2019 - 01:28pm PT
Easiest week of the season to bet. Take the home teams and give the points.

KC favored by 4

Rams by 7

The hated Patriots by 4

N.O. by 8
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Jan 12, 2019 - 01:47pm PT
Easiest week of the season to bet.

Yeah. Hope there are some upsets, but this seems like a no brainier.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2019 - 01:51pm PT
I’d say the Boys have the best chance of an upset.

The Dolts have been playing pretty well lately and the Chiefs’ D is suspect.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Jan 12, 2019 - 02:06pm PT
KC up by 14 in the middle of the first?

Whoa! Punt block for a TD.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2019 - 03:12pm PT
Looks like the Dolts’ Luck ran out.


OK, I’ll go to my room.
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Jan 12, 2019 - 06:50pm PT
Lambs having their way with the boys D.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 12, 2019 - 06:59pm PT
Every pass Dak throws is a Hail Mary. He sux bad.
Boys’ LBs suck too. Joe Buck sux worse.
And Aikman has had too many concussions.
hailman

Trad climber
Ventura, CA
Jan 13, 2019 - 07:29am PT
Joe Buck:

"Pass is.................




..........
..............





CAUGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Repeat 500x per game.



PS. Looks like my Packers are trying the Rams technique by hiring a young, QB-whisperer coach. There's always next year!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2019 - 07:54am PT
Buck’s best/worst yesterday was “A good pass by Prescott.” So a pro caliber QB who is stationary and doesn’t have a defensive lineman within 3 yards hits a stationary receiver
who doesn’t have a DB within 5 yards 12 yards away has made a “good pass”?
My mom coulda made that pass, from her wheelchair!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 13, 2019 - 10:52am PT
Why hasn't someone tried to take Joe Buck out?

(Is that his REAL NAME, even?)

Aikman said he suffered two “severe” concussions during his 12-year career as a quarterback for the Cowboys, though the overall number of concussions he had, he surmised, was likely between six and eight.Mar 26, 2015

https://imgur.com/gallery/D1F5Mru

"Don't worry, Jake, it's just Fox."
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jan 13, 2019 - 10:59am PT
Prescott blew it on several occasions missing wide open receivers with hurried , off target passes....I could have completed those passes out of a crankloon formation...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2019 - 11:44am PT
Well, that didn’t take long, did it? Do the Pats have clones available for the playoffs?
johntp

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Jan 13, 2019 - 12:03pm PT
The Chargeless should just forfeit and slink away. Thought it would be a good game. Think I'll go get my nails done and wash my hair.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jan 13, 2019 - 01:36pm PT
Two on-side kicks returned for a touch down the the bolts have this one in the bag!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 13, 2019 - 01:55pm PT
Sick n tired of the Pats dominance, I hate em. :(

live with it... at least for the near term future.

The hype was very interesting, the great Chargers' pass rush would disrupt the Pats and they're rush defense would shut down the running game. The Chargers pass attack coupled with their running game would totally overwhelm the Patriots defense.

Seems like the script got flipped on this one.

It felt like the game was over in the first half, that turned out to be the right feeling.

How about them Pats!

On to Kansas City!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 13, 2019 - 02:12pm PT
Da Beagles are nipping at the heels of Da Halos!
Idiot announcers totally missed the open Saint that Brees missed for a walkin TD.

Another homer call on the fumble. 🙄
Amazing - the booth reversed the call!

The NFL really needs to look into the refs’ Cayman bank accounts.
johntp

Trad climber
By decision or indecision we are where we are.
Jan 20, 2019 - 12:43pm PT
Go Saints
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 12:43pm PT
Lambs to the slaughter, huh?
johntp

Trad climber
By decision or indecision we are where we are.
Jan 20, 2019 - 12:52pm PT
^^^

Hope so. Lotta game to go.

I really find the fan stand yelling detracts from the games. Started in Seattle and now seems to be a thing.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 01:16pm PT
Goff just missed a wide open receiver over the middle.
He seems to be locked in on his first choice.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 02:28pm PT
OMG, as a former DB that was one of the most egregious PI fouls the NFL refs have whiffed on!
John M

climber
Jan 20, 2019 - 02:32pm PT
ref must be a lambs guy..
johntp

Trad climber
By decision or indecision we are where we are.
Jan 20, 2019 - 02:43pm PT
Coming down to the wire. Yeah, the ref missed the call.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 02:48pm PT
What about that facemask against Goff? Lambs shoulda had first and goal at the one!
Another game decided by ref incompetence.

And after watching Arsenal-Chelsea yesterday it is unbelievable that Buck and Aikman get paid
to blather incessantly. British announcers assume that if yer watching the telly yer not blind.
John M

climber
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:00pm PT
good grief. talk about a missed call.
johntp

Trad climber
By decision or indecision we are where we are.
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:00pm PT
F*#king missed call on the pass interference.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:02pm PT
Jeebus! Does he have to knife him to get called?
John M

climber
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:04pm PT
the DB must have invoked Trump. "I could shoot someone and still win".
johntp

Trad climber
By decision or indecision we are where we are.
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:05pm PT
What about that facemask against Goff?

Missed that one.
johntp

Trad climber
By decision or indecision we are where we are.
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:08pm PT
OT? Good game. I can't stand these new OT rules. Much preferred sudden death in OT.
Chaz

Trad climber
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:12pm PT
Free football!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:13pm PT
It wasn’t a flagrant but it woulda given them third down at the one at least.
John M

climber
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:15pm PT
I don't get the OT rules that if the receiving team scores a touchdown on their first possession, then its over. Why doesn't the kicking team get a chance?



Whoa.. 5 yards to spare on that kick. 57+ yards.
johntp

Trad climber
By decision or indecision we are where we are.
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:23pm PT
F*#k!!!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:30pm PT
Not sure the best team won but thanks to the zebras for making it a head scratcher!
Chaz

Trad climber
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:35pm PT
This long sappy TV lead-in to the AFC Game is just totally embarrassing.

i-b-goB

Social climber
Nutty
Jan 20, 2019 - 03:54pm PT
Heaven Can Wait the Rams win!
johntp

Trad climber
By decision or indecision we are where we are.
Jan 20, 2019 - 04:14pm PT
Whoa.. 5 yards to spare on that kick. 57+ yards.

As much as i can't stand the Lambs, that was a great kick under pressure. The lambs have done the job.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 20, 2019 - 04:39pm PT
At this point, after decades of watching football, I believe that I can categorically state: Officiating has ruined the game.

At this point the only "fix" (and it's a bad one) will need to be something like: Every play can be challenged, both for calls and for non-calls, so that every officiating decision (both for calls and for non-calls) can be reviewed. There have to be more challenges available, and the penalty for losing such a challenge should be much lower (not a full time-out).

The other alternative is to just let 'em play, and recognize that it's a very bang-bang game. So, basically, the calls amount to false-start and off-sides. All this safefication of the game is untenable and leads to wild arbitrariness. But if you're gonna call helmet-to-helmet, then CALL helmet-to-helmet, particularly against a defenseless receiver.

There was a ref right next to the personal-foul, helmet-to-helmet play. That ref is obviously not competent enough to be in the game, certainly not reffing major games. High school games, perhaps. Maybe.

Most egregious and game-significant non-call I can remember. And when it went to overtime, I thought, "At this point, the Rams will win."

I'm fine with either team going to the SB; no ax to grind here. But, as was the case throughout the season, bad reffing significantly affected the outcome.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 05:26pm PT
At least three of those non-calls today really calls their honesty, or more, into question.
Of course, the fact that many refs are lawyers puts paid to that question.

Pats’ secondary has the Chiefs’ receivers on house arrest.
Mahomes is fearless but that can’t last.

That was a fast 3rd quarter!
Chaz

Trad climber
Jan 20, 2019 - 06:04pm PT
I smell Overtime.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 06:06pm PT
Major brain freeze by Edelman but he clearly whiffed on it.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 20, 2019 - 06:11pm PT
No thumb! No thumb! NE keeps the pigskin.
Followed by a KC pick!

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 06:13pm PT
Boy, another goof by Edelman! Time to trim the beard!

Nice TD play!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 06:22pm PT
THAT WAS ROUGHING THE PASSER? Maybe in Pop Warner.

Helluva catch by Hogan but why is that ref standing around joking with him?

GO FOR TWO!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 06:53pm PT
THE WHITE GUY SCORES! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 20, 2019 - 07:02pm PT
Who smelled overtime?

31 all. What fun. What comedy.

Highest combined score in any NFL championship fourth quarter.
John M

climber
Jan 20, 2019 - 07:15pm PT
I just don't understand why the game is over if the first team to have possession of the ball scores a touchdown in overtime. Why doesn't the other team get a chance to score?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 07:15pm PT
full moon

Rams v Patriots...

the worm turns
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 07:19pm PT
Wow! Mr Money! And how tough is Edelman? Holy crap!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jan 20, 2019 - 07:20pm PT
Time to check the pigskin PSI..Something fishy going on...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 20, 2019 - 07:22pm PT
That little piggy was frozen!
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Jan 20, 2019 - 07:25pm PT
I just don't understand why the game is over if the first team to have possession of the ball scores a touchdown in overtime. Why doesn't the other team get a chance to score?

could not agree more, that just not seem a fair way to decide an entire season

both teams should get at least one possession until someone scores
John M

climber
Jan 20, 2019 - 07:29pm PT
I think its a hold over from sudden death OT. They didn't want to completely do away with Sudden death. So they give this one opportunity. Still seems screwy to me.
WBraun

climber
Jan 20, 2019 - 07:29pm PT
In the clutch when got Edelman Gronk and a good running back with Brady you're kinda fuked.

Bummer for Mahomes he's damn good .....
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 20, 2019 - 10:30pm PT
Chiefs lose game on a coin flip.


After that scoring explosion in the fourth quarter, anyone think that either offense was going to be stopped?
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 20, 2019 - 10:34pm PT
In a game that goes to overtime, you can always point to specific plays. But if that KC player hadn't lined up offside, the game is over with the interception with 50 seconds left.

Going to be a long off season for him.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 21, 2019 - 05:17am PT
I agree with what August West said. That game was 99% in KC's pocket till he made that motherfkn booboo.

Very little about the coin toss system is fair. It's the best they got, though.

You gotta live with that, just like you get bad non-calls and bad calls from the motherfkn zebras.

i-b-goB

Social climber
Nutty
Jan 21, 2019 - 09:00am PT
Will the Rams get a Pat down or will the Pat's get Rams-ed?
Go-Rams!
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 21, 2019 - 11:52am PT
Very little about the coin toss system is fair. It's the best they got, though.

You gotta live with that, just like you get bad non-calls and bad calls from the motherfkn zebras.

I don't know about that. I think you should be willing to try and improve the rules. The original OT rules were sudden death, including a field goal. They decided that gave the coin toss winner too big of advantage and decided only a TD would be an automatic win on the first drive.

My suggestion is to get rid of the kickoff and the coin toss loser choose a starting field position (and direction for the offense) and the coin toss winner then getting to decide to start on offense or defense.

So KC losing the coin toss might have chosen the 10 yard line with the offense going against the wind (if there was still any left by then). The Pats could then start on the 10 on offense or have KC start at the 10 on offense.

If my rules were in place, and KC had chosen the 1 yard line, I wonder if the Pats would have still chosen offense? If they would have, that really shows just how big of an advantage the coin toss winner is getting under the current system. And it would have evened it up some by making them go 99 yards. And also, a safety would win it for the defense.

Assuming the Pats weren't willing to start on offense at the 1, then KC would have an opportunity for Mahomes to have his chance by choosing a bad enough starting field position.

I haven't researched it, but a co-worker tells me that the coin toss winner only wins a little over 50% of the overtimes. But the league is more offensive dominated than it used to be. First time in playoff history that the top four offenses all made the conference championship round.

So I think the best they got can be improved on.
johntp

Trad climber
By decision or indecision we are where we are.
Jan 21, 2019 - 03:30pm PT
Is the NFL rigged?

The penalty calls (or lack thereof) to get the pats and lambs to the bowl were questionable.

Lambs and Pats give a greater market than the Saints/Chiefs.

I could care less about the Pats and Lambs. Would have rather see the Saints/Chiefs in the bowl/

Just thinking out loud.
Robb

Social climber
Cat Box
Jan 21, 2019 - 06:03pm PT
Sorry, I couldn't resist...
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 21, 2019 - 07:47pm PT
^^^ LOL! That!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 23, 2019 - 08:44am PT
Robb, thank you!

Looking at the NE-KC stats you wonder how it went to OT even without Stevie Wonder’s ref crew.
First downs NE 36-18
rushing NE 48/176 vs 12/41
TOP NE 44 minutes to KC’s 21!!!

Lambs’ D is much better than KC’s* as is their running game. Gotta go with da Lambs.

KC’s D coordinator got sh!tcanned yesterday. It took them 2 days?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 23, 2019 - 09:17am PT
from 1960 to 2000 the Patriots weren't much to watch... but the late 1990s brought a transition and the last 20 years has been much more fun...

I know a lot of you aren't that interested, but it is amazing what they've done.

The Rams v. Pats will be interesting to watch, especially the line play. The 4th quarter of the Pats v. Chiefs saw the offenses score essentially at will against the defenses. I haven't seen the Rams play (except waiting for a flight in the airport when they played the Saints in the regular season) but I am familiar with some of the players.

As usual, lots of random factors will be amplified in this final game. Perhaps the best thing the Pats D has is the ability to confuse a young quarterback. Will that offset the Rams D line's ability to disrupt an old quarterback?

We'll see soon enough

I'm thinking low scoring first half, high scoring second...
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 23, 2019 - 09:22am PT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 23, 2019 - 09:30am PT
Yes, Ed H, I was going to mention how the Pats held The Prodigal to only 50% - far below
his usual, what, 70%? I think Goff is smarter but I’m sure the man behind the curtain will
cook up some tricky defensive alignments. Should be a good game.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jan 23, 2019 - 12:21pm PT
So how much did the casinos/bookies/Mob make on that blown call?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2015/09/09/93-billion-will-be-illegally-wagered-on-nfl-and-college-football/#60ff26c47881
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 23, 2019 - 01:42pm PT
Is the NFL rigged?

The penalty calls (or lack thereof) to get the pats and lambs to the bowl were questionable.

Lambs and Pats give a greater market than the Saints/Chiefs.

I could care less about the Pats and Lambs. Would have rather see the Saints/Chiefs in the bowl/

I don't know about that. Pre-Mahomes, Pats would have been a bigger draw. But with Mahomes, I'm not so sure about that. A KC Super Bowl would have been a chance to drum up excitement for the next new thing. The NFL isn't going to be able to rely on Brady much longer.

I think Brees would be a bigger draw than LA. Sure, LA is a bigger TV market, but I"m not sure that matter for the Super Bowl. Now I have heard some argue that the NFL is desperate to make LA and their new stadium a success. So I suppose.

There were bad calls both ways. For instance, both TEs (Gronk and Kelce) were blatantly pushing off on their routes. Neither got called. If they had wanted to tip it, those would have been easy to call one way and not the other.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Jan 23, 2019 - 01:44pm PT
Ed T with the most accurate map ever,lol. Go Rams
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 23, 2019 - 01:48pm PT

Looking at the NE-KC stats you wonder how it went to OT even without Stevie Wonder’s ref crew.
First downs NE 36-18
rushing NE 48/176 vs 12/41
TOP NE 44 minutes to KC’s 21!!!

Lambs’ D is much better than KC’s* as is their running game. Gotta go with da Lambs.

The big difference are the picks that Brady threw. The other thing is that KC is not a grind it out offense. Big passing plays don't generate a lot of first downs or time of possession and KC got big yards from PI by the Pats DBs.

Lambs' D might be better, but their offense isn't as good. KC - LA was a 54-51 game during the regular season. Seems hard to say that they are substantially better.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 24, 2019 - 02:32pm PT
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 24, 2019 - 03:59pm PT
I read team that wins the overtime coin toss wins 60% of the time. If that's accurate it's a slight advantage but all the defense has to do is stop a TD drive at any point, Rams had 3 3rd downs converted on them. It's interesting that the most complaining I've ever heard about the overtime rule is when it helps the Pats. Maybe they could change the rule, but really it's not a huge unfairness like so many are making it out to be.

The idea the game is rigged is a huge stretch. The ability to keep a conspiracy like that silent is near impossible. And what's the motivation? 90% of people are sick of the Pats, the league wants parity badly. And if Brady's in it they would have love to have Brees. A Brady / Brees superbowl, two of the best QBs of their generation finally facing off would have been huge.

Deflategate showed how hard it would be to rig the league. The league did everything they could to railroad the Pats (who may or may not be guilty) and when it went to court the leagues lies and inaccurate leaks were exposed and the ridiculous inaccuracy of their testing and lack of knowledge of what conditions do to the ball was also exposed. If that investigation was so screwed up I don't think for a second the could run a successful conspiracy to favor some teams to win.

The blow DPI call was huge. I think the challenge flag should apply to those calls. But there are blown calls in every game. Hopefully they even out. The Saints had a chance to win after that and won the coin toss in overtime. So it was huge but wasn't the only reason the Saints lost.

The funniest thing though was the reaction to the Edelman non muffed punt. People are so adamant there wasn't enough evidence to overturn it but remarkably they had video angles that showed the ball clearly didn't touch either hand or his arm. This was an entirely objective situation, where there was conclusive evidence and still people see what they want to see.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 24, 2019 - 04:38pm PT
. If that's accurate it's a slight advantage but all the defense has to do is stop a TD drive at any point, Rams had 3 3rd downs converted on them. It's interesting that the most complaining I've ever heard about the overtime rule is when it helps the Pats. Maybe they could change the rule, but really it's not a huge unfairness like so many are making it out to be.

When was the last time that a team that won the OT coin toss decided to play D first? The teams all think it is an advantage.

Sure, all the D has to do is get a stop. Back with the original OT rules, all you had to do was stop them from kicking a field goal. Why not just keep those rules?

There is nothing in the rules that say the league has to be balanced between offense and defense. Maybe it worked ok for the regular season, at least in the past. The playoffs are dominated by QBs that can score in the fourth quarter after the other team's D is gassed. And scoring is going up in the league. I would like to see changes to the rules so that the team that wins the toss doesn't always choose to start on offense.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 24, 2019 - 05:30pm PT
As I said if the stat is accurate it's a slight advantage. It didn't matter in the Rams game (both teams had possession) and the Pats had to convert 3 3rd downs for it to matter.

But yes the league has become more friendly to offense, and playoff QBs are often scoring at the end of the game. And it's a slight advantage and it would be good to have no advantage.

There's options for a rule change: OTs last 15 minutes. Each team gets the ball at least once or twice. Must go for two pt conversion ala CFL.

But if both teams get possession the team that plays second gets the advantage of knowing what they need to score to win.

As long as they don't go the college route and eliminate kick offs. OT should be just like the game. Don't be like soccer going to penalty kicks. WTF, penalty kicks are exciting, but it's like they play a completely different game to determine who wins.

Yeah it used to be first team to score could win with a field goal. But Johnny Unitas in the first NFL overtime game, which happened to be the 1958 championship, was setup for the winning FG, but decided to go for a TD instead because he didn't want to hear people whine about it and because he was bad ass.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jan 24, 2019 - 05:50pm PT
Phuck the SuperBowl, the camping is not that good.

But seriously, the Pro Bowl is in a few days, I can hardly wait for the kickoff. Slo-mo touch football is so exciting.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 26, 2019 - 06:01am PT
Now, the NFL is fining Rams cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman $26,739 for a hit the refs never saw.

"Hey guys.... we f*cked up. Let's shift the blame to a player."

"Yeah. That's the ticket."

Roger Goodell is a moron!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 26, 2019 - 08:07am PT
^^^ That last sentence in particular is so true.

I'm over the NFL. I'm not even going to bother with the SB.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 26, 2019 - 08:17am PT
Two NFL rules that drive me crazy are ‘breaking the plane’ and ‘the ground can’t cause a fumble.’
The NFL should adopt rugby rules, from whence we came: you have to get the bloody ball
into the end zone and put it on the ground or carry it in with two feet. And if the ground can’t
cause a fumble then how come he fumbled? This endless examening of minutiae like ‘did his
knee touch a blade of fake grass before he fumbled’ is a sad metaphor for our society in general.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 26, 2019 - 01:16pm PT
This endless examening of minutiae

If you don't like the instant replay review, fine. It's not perfect, but I think it overall improves the game. If you are going to have video review, then the refs are going have to make decision based on the video of things like 'did his knee touch a blade of grass?' I don't see the alternative.

I watch the vast majority of my sports viewing off the DVR, so a 3 minute review takes me about ten seconds of fast forwarding. If I watched everything live, I'm sure it would be more annoying.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 26, 2019 - 01:26pm PT

As long as they don't go the college route and eliminate kick offs. OT should be just like the game. Don't be like soccer going to penalty kicks. WTF, penalty kicks are exciting, but it's like they play a completely different game to determine who wins.

I don't get the love affair with kickoffs. Anymore, it is usually into the endzone and the team gets it at the 25. Is that really that sacrosanct?

"It's tradition!". Yea, so what. Once upon a time the rules of football didn't allow a forward pass. Should they have kept that tradition?

If there are situations that can be improved, I'm for making improvements.

Kickoffs cause a disproportionate number of injuries. I would be fine with getting rid of it completely.

I don't watch soccer. I do watch hockey. In hockey for OT [regular season] they play five minutes of 3 on 3 sudden death before going to a shootout. That usually decides the game since it is far easier to score with fewer players on the ice. For playoff OT, I think it is a full period of sudden death. Not a fan of the shootout for deciding games.

For soccer, I would suggest some scenario where the offense has say 4 players and the defense has 3 players (not including goalie) and the offense has 30 seconds or so to score starting from mid-field. That seems "more soccer like" than penalty kicks. Teams alternate and get 5 chances or whatever works out.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 26, 2019 - 01:29pm PT
I agree it has rectified a lot of bad calls but the game has no flow any more. Instant replay is
really just a not so clever ploy to sell more beer and Viagra. If they were really interested in
fairness they would simplify the rule book, but many refs are lawyers so that is anathema!
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jan 26, 2019 - 02:02pm PT
Yea. Let's get rid of kickoffs. Punts, too. While we're at it, no more tackles. Two hand touch should be enough to down a player.

And what about those scantily clad cheerleaders? so sexist. So misogynist. Talk about encouraging toxic masculinity. Shame on the NFL.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jan 26, 2019 - 04:58pm PT
^^^ Yeah!

And the only celebration after a TD that should be allowed is: at least two players take off their helmets and slam their heads together. More players makes for a better celebration!

Oh, wait. I think that I'm thinking backwards.

Oh, whatever!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 26, 2019 - 05:33pm PT
Talk about encouraging toxic masculinity.

Are you kidding? You look at a QB and it’s manslaughter. You literally touch his head and
its Murder 2! Meanwhile a RB plows into the line and gets head butted by three 400 pounders.
Where’s the consistency or logic, let alone masculinity, in that? Screw those momma’s boy QBs!
That said I do feel sorry for Troy Aikman - his elevator doesn’t go anywhere near the top floor.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jan 26, 2019 - 05:55pm PT
And what about those scantily clad cheerleaders?

oh the problems they cause. Like this poor guy who was forced to rub one out in front of God and everyone

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the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 26, 2019 - 06:26pm PT
I don't get the love affair with kickoffs. Anymore, it is usually into the endzone and the team gets it at the 25. Is that really that sacrosanct?

Kickoffs can be the most exciting play in the game. The kicking team can play it safe and kick it thru the end zone. Or they can try to pin them closer but take the risk it could be returned much father or even for a TD.

They've taken steps to make kickoffs safer which I agree with. But like most changes there are other consequences, e.g. onside kicks almost never work anymore. I like onside kicks as a high risk way to get the ball back in a must score situation.

I love flag football and wish the league promoted it more (e.g. at the Pro Bowl). It takes a lot of the best parts of football and takes out most of the injuries. It does fine without kickoffs. But it's very different from tackle football. The tackle aspect of football really reflects on it's roots in violent mob football and is part of what makes it fun to watch and play. I'm generally in favor of rules that keep the full contact nature in place, while reducing injuries. I like the changes that have protected QBs and WRs, etc.

I don't mind the stoppages for replay at all. Football has always been a sport of starts and stops. I always have someone to talk to or something available to do/read because I can't sit and watch ads anyway. I'd much rather they get the call right than not wait but the call is wrong.
johntp

Trad climber
By decision or indecision we are where we are.
Jan 26, 2019 - 06:32pm PT
They've taken steps to make kickoffs safer which I agree with.

Yeah; played football from Pop Warner through junior high (at which time my small stature became problematic. The scariest part were kickoffs and punts, when people are running full blast at each other.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jan 27, 2019 - 11:45am PT
The down side to flag football is that the black lives matters genuflectors could drop their flags during the national anthem as an overt form of protest...kinda like gang hand signals...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 27, 2019 - 11:47am PT
If you want real men’s football watch rugby. That said I’m going to the pantywaists’
FA Cup Final because I appreciate artistry, and a good boozeup. 🤪
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jan 27, 2019 - 11:52am PT
Do you got a designated driver or are you riding the fat tire E bike...?
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jan 27, 2019 - 12:18pm PT
“Pro Bowl” is definitely the MTB e-Bike of the NFL.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 27, 2019 - 12:20pm PT
RJ, I’ll be taking the Tube with the sundry other punters.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Nutty
Jan 28, 2019 - 07:12pm PT

'Madden' simulation predicts Super Bowl thriller!

https://sports.yahoo.com/surprisingly-successful-madden-simulation-predicts-super-bowl-thriller-002848256.html

GO RAMS!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 28, 2019 - 10:57pm PT
Madden? didn't they have the Chiefs winning the AFC Championship?

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mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 1, 2019 - 05:22pm PT
you can pick your nose guard but you better not pick his nose

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johntp

Trad climber
Punter
Feb 1, 2019 - 05:32pm PT
If you want real men’s football watch rugby.

No doubt it is hard core. Not sure why, just not my game.

LaCrosse is cool.

Hockey (live) is great, boring on the toob.

I watch soccer when I need to sleep.

edit: of course the lambs will win. the refs are on their side and it seems the league wants to see Brady retire.

edit2: not a real conspiracy theorist, but it just seems the NFL is rigged like reality TV.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 1, 2019 - 06:57pm PT
Seems like it. What say, Drew Brees?

TAILGATE LIKE YOU MEAN IT!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2019 - 11:27am PT
Gurley is hiding an injury - he isn’t the same as earlier in the season. CJ Anderson is pretty good but so is the Pats’ run D. Pats have 3 capable and healthy runners and Rams’ run D is good but not great. Edge to Pats

Pats’ receivers are better than Rams’. Brady is better than Goff. Nuff said.

Both kickers are very good. Even

Belichick is a genius, no question.

Pats 27-23

BTW, star of the game will be The Dude in a Stella Artois ad. Bet on it!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2019 - 11:57am PT
Yeah, that dude coulda made a big difference. Close to Gronk in quality.
Should be good game, if the zebras let ‘em play.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 2, 2019 - 11:58am PT
reilly is a genius. no question.😁
WBraun

climber
Feb 2, 2019 - 12:02pm PT
They should play in an open stadium with rain, snow, mud, lightning bolts and all that sh!t.

The fans will be topless with bodypaint all over em drinking beer and shouting profanities.

Not like these modern sterile drooling pussies these days in their sterile domes .......

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 2, 2019 - 12:44pm PT
It ain't rocket science - 3rd downs and Edelman, Edelman, Edelman.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Nutty
Feb 2, 2019 - 04:26pm PT

It will be won or lost by the field goal unit!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 2, 2019 - 05:03pm PT
^^^ GOLD! The A Team!
johntp

Trad climber
Punter
Feb 2, 2019 - 05:30pm PT
They should play in an open stadium with rain, snow, mud, lightning bolts and all that sh!t.

Snow bowls are great!

edit: why do baseball players melt when it rains?
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 2, 2019 - 06:31pm PT
Super Bowl LIII: Key Storylines To Watch

https://sports.theonion.com/super-bowl-liii-key-storylines-to-watch-1832192910
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 10:39am PT
Lewis was thrilled to get a ticket for the Super Bowl. The big day came and he took his seat in the stand. After the pre-game show he noticed the seat in front of him was still vacent.

Even after the kick-off nobody was sitting there, so he asked the guy next to the empty seat why nobody was sitting there. The guy replied it would have been my wife's seat but she just died."

"Well," said Lewis, "Man, why didn't you just bring a friend or relative?"

The guy replied, "Oh, they're all at the funeral."
johntp

Trad climber
Punter
Feb 3, 2019 - 10:59am PT
^^^ Sick, but funny

I hope the Pat's pull it off. Depends on the refs.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 11:08am PT
johntp, I'll wager a can of Coca Cola on the Rams over the Pats.

Are you up for it?

Interestingly, it's Pepsi who's commercializing this SB LIII, while Coca Cola, whose base is in Atlanta, is not.

johntp

Trad climber
Punter
Feb 3, 2019 - 11:52am PT
Sorry mouse. This is one game I'm not gonna bet on. LA/STL has a good record. Pats have experience.

The zebras will determine the winner if the last three weeks are any indication.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 12:03pm PT
^^^^ More than likely true. The bureaucratization of sport, and lengthening the game
in order to sell more commercials for crappy beer and blue pills.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 12:09pm PT
aldude

climber
Monument Manor
Feb 3, 2019 - 02:30pm PT
Patriots are 2 1/2 point favorites *
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 02:33pm PT
The 49ers have a connection to the McVay family, bigtime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McVay

https://www.49ers.com/news/john-mcvay-marvels-at-current-49ers-10708504
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 02:55pm PT
https://www.profootballhof.com/pro-football-hall-of-fames-class-of-2019/

Champ Bailey and Pat Bowlen, into the hall this year.

How 'bout that, Rodger?
Robb

Social climber
Cat Box
Feb 3, 2019 - 03:47pm PT
Are you kidding me?
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 03:49pm PT
Totally ridiculous
Robb

Social climber
Cat Box
Feb 3, 2019 - 03:51pm PT
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to tackle you like that. That should be worth at least 15 yards....
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 03:55pm PT
I guess they are still ref’ing the Pro Bowl
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 03:57pm PT
Announcer jinx!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 03:58pm PT
Not very Patriotic to burn two TOs for nothing and then miss a gimme FG.
johntp

Trad climber
Punter
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:11pm PT
Rams rough Brady. No call. That throwdown should have been called.
WBraun

climber
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:13pm PT
He's supposed to get roughed it's football not grab asz ....
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:13pm PT
meh Thank you, Werner.
Brady doesn’t look very Bradyish
johntp

Trad climber
Punter
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:16pm PT
Yeah, the Pat's haven't finished the job, but that throwdown on Brady was waaay after the pass.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:17pm PT
OK, I laughed at the Audi ad. 🤡
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:25pm PT
I wonder what brand of nails Edelman prefers for breakfast?
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:29pm PT
Which Team has the NFL Brass decided will bring in the most dollars? That's the team that will win. Based on the ref calls so far, I think Roger G. wants New England.
johntp

Trad climber
Punter
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:33pm PT
Okay, Pats interfered on that last pass.

Zebras are fickle.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:40pm PT
Third down and Pats RB isn’t smart enough to run his route to the first down line?
Belichick won’t like that!

I got no beef with the zebras, yet.

Tony Romo has had a few too many lobotomies though.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:44pm PT
Zebras aren't cows; they are in the same family as asses, though.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:49pm PT
CAN’T WAIT FOR BIG BOI!

THE DUDE! WOOT!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:55pm PT
If the Phillipians could control Edelman, they would.

He's not havin' it, though.

Overall, one of the best defensive halves I've seen in the SB.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Nutty
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:55pm PT
Goff is not too moble!
johntp

Trad climber
Punter
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:57pm PT
Tony Romo has had a few too many lobotomies though.

Pretty much. Dood played a few years with the Boy's, didn't win crap, married a hot chick. Now he's a caster making millions.

I'm jealous.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:58pm PT
Jim Nance had possibly the best defensive play when he jinxed the Pats' FG attempt.
Chaz

Trad climber
Straight Outta Crafton
Feb 3, 2019 - 04:58pm PT
Too many lobotomies ... like a fox!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:00pm PT
Goff is confused and Brady is on ludes. A pity CBS won’t show us any wide shots so we can see the open receivers Brady is not seeing. Why did he throw that very liw percentage pass to Gronk on third down? We’ll never know because of the wretched camera coverage.
WBraun

climber
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:12pm PT
Where's Mahomes?

These poseurs playing tonight have been partying for two weeks now getting fat.

Except for Edelman .... :-)
WBraun

climber
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:21pm PT
I think it's too many viewers and not enough bandwidth.

CBS has had technical difficulties since the game started here in Calif.

They are streaming on the internet for free today.

Everyone is watching this game which so far is being played by Edelman alone :-)
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:24pm PT
Did I miss the Tel Aviv Super Bowl ad?

I was just takin' a leak. Damn!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:27pm PT
All hail The Dude!

I took the garbage out at halftime rather than watch garbage.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:45pm PT
I’ve decided Edelman prefers drywall screws for breakfast
WBraun

climber
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:46pm PT
Ha ha ha lol
WBraun

climber
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:47pm PT
Tad the feed still ultimately comes over the wire/fiber before it hits the local air transmitters .....
i-b-goB

Social climber
Nutty
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:48pm PT
I needed a commercial!
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:49pm PT
Did I somehow wander into a baseball game? Because that's the only sport more boring than the one I am watching.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:51pm PT
Jim Nantz: “ This is getting exciting now!”

WTF IS HE WATCHING? 😳
i-b-goB

Social climber
Nutty
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:54pm PT
At least the Rams start at the 20!
Chaz

Trad climber
Straight Outta Crafton
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:56pm PT
You want smart TV commentary, watch the Puppy Bowl. Or the Underwear Bowl.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:59pm PT
Thank God the Buck doesn't stop here!!!!!!

Big throw by Goof, er, Goff.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Nutty
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:03pm PT
Goal!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:05pm PT
Tie!!!!!!!!

Darth Vader's rig.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:08pm PT
buncha punters here today
WBraun

climber
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:09pm PT
Edelman should play both offenses then the game would be taking off ....
zBrown

Ice climber
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:09pm PT
Were they actually beyond the three point line?

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:13pm PT
I appreciated the Dignity Health ad. Cute. I'm in one of their medical centers.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Nutty
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:14pm PT
Let's hope it doesn't go into overtime! : p
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:17pm PT
Seems to me Brady has his mind made up who he is gonna throw to cause he keeps trying to force it into impossible situations.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:19pm PT
There is an Edelman and a Gurley man.
One is a winner, while one is an also-ran.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:35pm PT
See how easy it is?
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:38pm PT
First Superbowl in @ 10 years, since my best friend died. I'm enjoying it. Love the Chargers uniforms. That gives them an edge on who I care wins.
WBraun

climber
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:38pm PT
I hope it goes overtime then they can play like this all night long :-)
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:41pm PT
A pick by Gilmore.

Game over.

So happy for you, Lynnie.
Chaz

Trad climber
Straight Outta Crafton
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:41pm PT
That was the Rams' high water mark, right there.
WBraun

climber
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:43pm PT
It's over now.

Rams threw it away ....
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:44pm PT
Turn out the lights the party's over.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Nutty
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:49pm PT
One good thing is I saved 60 bucks on SB swag! Make that 75 Bucks!!!

Congrats to B&B for #6!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:51pm PT
It’s a blowout!
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:53pm PT
WhoTF is the Rams offensive coordinator and head coach!?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 06:54pm PT
Who’s the Sikh on the Pats’ sideline?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 3, 2019 - 07:02pm PT
Are you kidding? Why would he do that?
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Feb 3, 2019 - 07:07pm PT
This explains why I only watch one football game a year.

zBrown

Ice climber
Feb 3, 2019 - 07:07pm PT
They played like they knew the winning team goes to White House.

i-b-goB

Social climber
Nutty
Feb 3, 2019 - 07:09pm PT
^^^
zzzzz! lol
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Feb 3, 2019 - 07:13pm PT
Better than some....Rams need more experience.
WBraun

climber
Feb 3, 2019 - 07:23pm PT
Soooo ..... what happens now?

No more football till fall.

Life is now over .... till fall .....

stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Feb 3, 2019 - 07:28pm PT
Ugh. Boring. And I have to go to our Boston office for work on Tues. That will be annoying.
WBraun

climber
Feb 3, 2019 - 07:30pm PT
Yeah hockey ... good stuff ....
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 08:32pm PT
wow, that was old school...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 3, 2019 - 10:23pm PT
Soooo ..... what happens now?

Well, the real football season is just hotting up. Liverpool have a slim lead but City will make
them earn it especially after their thrashing of the Gooners today. Got tickets for the FA Cup
Final in May! Eat yer hearts out!
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Feb 3, 2019 - 11:02pm PT
Great game. Not as exciting as the AFCCG but a super good old fashioned field position battle. When the rest of the league zigs Belichick zags and goes old school. Pats had one functioning WR and still won. Interesting to see how well the D# plans and coverages worked on both sides.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 4, 2019 - 06:07am PT
The best day to climb at Josh, or anywhere, is Super Bowl Sunday.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Feb 4, 2019 - 06:52am PT
I agree, Fet. Great game. It wasn't boring. It's was a display of two badass defenses. Lack of scoring amped up the tension. A hard fought victory. My only criticism was the Ram's stupid penalties. Dumb.

Worst SB ever? No way. Much better than the occasional blowouts. Take Super Bowl XLVIII. Seattle's 22–0 halftime lead. 36–0 advantage before Denver's first and only score. Boring.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Feb 4, 2019 - 01:02pm PT
This is what we do every super bowl Sunday
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Feb 4, 2019 - 01:32pm PT
That was my take as well ET. I always prefer a defensive game and my eyes are most likely watching linebackers and secondary initially, the flats and then the O. I like to get a snap shot of the initial reaction to the O's first move by the middle D men then go from there. It's more informative that way anyway..

It most def was not the worst Superbowl but it wouldn't surprise me that some folks feel that way; look at how popular the Wheel of Fortune is.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Feb 4, 2019 - 05:13pm PT
I like a shootout more than a defensive standoff, but I appreciate both and think watching different types of games is more interesting, so I liked this one.

I'd much rather watch a low scoring game than a blowout. This game could have gone either way until the last couple minutes. I usually turn off a blowout when I know one team has no chance. But in the Pats vs. Falcons I knew the pats were moving the ball, they just had some bad turnovers, etc. and knew they had enough time to make a comeback, not that I expected it, but I never considered turning off that game.

It's like watching soccer. If you don't understand/appreciate the strategy and nuances of the game then you may find a lot of back and forth with no scoring boring, while other people can see so much going on.

I thought baseball was boring, until I trying scoring it (all the plays, not just the score) and then I realized how much happens on each play.

I've never been a big Maroon 5 fan, but I thought it was a good half time show. Better than Timberlake.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 5, 2019 - 10:46am PT
TV viewership was down 16 million from 2015! Guess that explains the lame commercials.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 11, 2019 - 10:23pm PT
a history lesson for those who think the Patriots have taken too much...

[Click to View YouTube Video]

matches my entire life watching football, my first game being 1961 watching the Pats play the Oilers in Memorial Stadium.

Go Steve Grogan!
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Feb 22, 2019 - 11:51am PT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 22, 2019 - 01:54pm PT
HaHaHa! Too good!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 24, 2019 - 05:56pm PT
The Grateful Gronk

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26351121/grateful-gronkowski-announces-retirement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Gronkowski

Th-th-that's all, folks!
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Mar 24, 2019 - 06:14pm PT
Glad he's going out on top and before he gets any more injuries but it's sad we don't get to see him play anymore. One of the most fun to watch of all time, especially when he jukes or drags like 5 defenders.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Mar 25, 2019 - 10:13am PT
I've enjoyed watching Gronk and Brady over the years and have a lot of respect for what they have accomplished. But I'm ready for them to be out of football and in the Hall of Fame.

Time for Kelce and Mahomes to take over the AFC...
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