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Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 26, 2010 - 07:52pm PT
There use to be a time when the climbers had long hair and were hassled by the local cowboys.

Bill St Jean one time, while sitting in a restaurant in Pinedale Wy, was hauled out and given a proper haircut by the locals.

But times have changed and now it is often difficult to tell the difference between a cowboy and a climber. This might help clarify that cultural blending, then again it may not.

Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Aug 26, 2010 - 08:11pm PT
Another way to look at it, being a man is a full time job!

Social climber
Aug 26, 2010 - 08:17pm PT
While I have spent my share of days at work in the saddle, laboring as a farriar, bucking bales and breaking the honery horse and mule, some of my friends and clients bestowed upon me the title of 'honorary lesbian.'

Now I understand better.... Live and learn.

Aug 26, 2010 - 10:09pm PT
Dats funny as fuk.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Aug 26, 2010 - 10:28pm PT
Good one Guid. Thanks.

Aug 26, 2010 - 11:28pm PT
A truly superior contribution, Guido! I played it twice.

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Aug 26, 2010 - 11:44pm PT

VA VA VOOM! Guido!!!!

Gym climber
Boise, I dee Hoe
Aug 27, 2010 - 12:44am PT
Brokeback is all I need to know about cowboys.

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Aug 27, 2010 - 01:54am PT
Good laugh. Thanks, dude.

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 27, 2010 - 02:09am PT
Just back from Pinedale and boy has it changed since 1968! You can even
get an espresso with your haircut these days!

The mountains are still good...

Credit: Reilly
BLT&P Sandwich

Social climber
Aug 27, 2010 - 02:31am PT

That's an insult to the cowboy.

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Aug 27, 2010 - 04:13am PT
Ahh hell pardner, I guess I don't rightly know!

Credit: survival

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Aug 27, 2010 - 07:16am PT
OK. I finally understand now.

When I was hitchhiking outside of Jackson Hole with ice axe and crampons tied to the outside of my backpack, the local cowboys threw empty beer cans at me because they thought I was a lesbian???

All this time I thought they just didn't like climbers.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Aug 27, 2010 - 10:57am PT
Especially lesbian climbers...honorary third strike called! LOL

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Aug 27, 2010 - 12:37pm PT
Ice axe and 'pons on your pack west of Pheonix??

Sounds like posing bro.

Trad climber
Lander, WY
Aug 27, 2010 - 01:29pm PT
Thanks for that's great.
Cowboys aren't all that bad, well, most of the time. I hitched from Jackson Hole to Rock Springs in 1979 and had the ice tools on the outside of the pack. I had pretty long hair at the time and this cowboy with Texas plates on his truck stops and loooooks and asks "are you one o them Califurnia hippies?' and I said "well I'm from California." So he gives me a ride to Pinedale and I fill him in on the climbing thing. He thought it all sounded pretty cool. He was looking for ranch work and we stopped in Pinedale where he takes me into this bar and buys me a drink while he's asking around for work. Most of the 'boys' in there are looking at me like I need haircut very badly, but he just told them "ah, just leave him alone, he's all right, he's a climber." We stopped in all those little places and went into bars, so by the time we got to Rock Springs, I was pretty well three sheets to the wind. He let me off at the bus station and I fell asleep on the way to Denver.
I have run across a few cowboys that sort of had an inflated view of their personal worth, like they were better than the rest of us poor slobs that didn't kill themselves bench-pressing cattle around, or whatever it is they do out there. Having worked on a ranch in Crowheart one winter removing the rocks from a pasture for a good friend of mine who happens to be a cowboy, watching the light and clouds and the snow move across the land, I can understand why they get so emotional about their way of life. It's pretty powerful stuff and if you were out there 24/7, you'd probably get an attitude. Like any group of people, some of them are real fine individuals and others are ignorant shits. You just hope you don't run across the ignorant shits in your travels.

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Aug 27, 2010 - 01:33pm PT
You try hitch hiking alone with an 80 lb pack AND a haulbag full of gear.

Gee Sam, I've never hitched it on my thumb anywhere with a sh*tload of gear before....what's it like?

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Aug 27, 2010 - 01:52pm PT
Me too. I climbed in Eldorado, the Grand Teton, and Mt Ranier on that trip. And I didn't look like a hippie in those days either. So either it was the backpack, or the climbing gear, or we're back to the lesbian theory again!
corniss chopper

Mountain climber
san jose, ca
Aug 27, 2010 - 04:29pm PT
some interesting pics here


Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Aug 27, 2010 - 05:28pm PT
Actually some of my ancestors were the real thing.

My great great grandfather Andrew Jackson Potter and his son Jack Potter are written up in Traildrivers of Texas and the Handbook of Texas history online. Jack Potter also wrote many short stories about riding the trail.

My own paternal grandfather used to catch and break wild mustangs in Colorado for extra money. He didn't run them down with helicopters either!
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