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Tradboy

Social climber
Valley
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 29, 2005 - 04:22pm PT
You probably get a kick out of how often your name gets dropped around here.

Haven't seen you since Harding's memorial, good luck with the shoe company.
Gramicci

Social climber
Ventura
Nov 29, 2005 - 04:50pm PT
There was a little coaxing involved…

Acopa Shoes are pretty awesome. Can’t say I put on a nicer fitting Boot.
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Northern Mexico
Nov 29, 2005 - 04:55pm PT
Got me? Probally just another poser?

Juanito
Shack

Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
Nov 29, 2005 - 05:04pm PT
Check the Mike Reardon thread...
pc

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 29, 2005 - 05:07pm PT
Juan, I advise you to cut bait, return to shore, and observe big fish from a safe distance. Occasionally they'll jump out of the water and you get a glimpse.
pc
George_W_Bush

Big Wall climber
Crawford, TX
Nov 29, 2005 - 06:58pm PT
Of course the guy was going to go onto the Reardon thread and defend him. The dood is front and center for his shoe advertising. He ain't going to come on and say, "Yep, Reardon's a liar".
Roger Breedlove

Trad climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Nov 29, 2005 - 07:20pm PT
Hi John,

I am assuming that you are posting up. We need more old guys on ST that actually still climb. Some of these young whipper snappers are starting to draw the distinction between "I used to climb." and "I climb." Depressing.

BTW, if I tried your shoes, would they make my hair brown, my waist smaller than my ass, and put me on the sharp end of 5.10+? I'd pay mucho for the make over.

Cheers, Roger
Gramicci

Social climber
Ventura
Nov 29, 2005 - 07:43pm PT
Mr President, sir

I think what he was really saying, is he may know Reardon better than most of you. He said he actually climbed with him so he has first hand knowledge of his abilities.

If you know Bachar you would know he would say the same thing about Reardon regardless of who’s shoes were on his feet…

I would think? if someone were to risk so much they would want to climb in the best shoe they could.

For the record Sir, I don't know Reardon but John is my friend and I have no financial reason to post this.

Requesting your resignation sir
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Northern Mexico
Nov 29, 2005 - 07:44pm PT
It was not really Bachar!

Hey Gramicci, I used one of your ledges when I soloed a Big Wall and it worked great.

Thanks

Juan De Fuca
Matt

Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
Nov 29, 2005 - 07:48pm PT
"what the hell [were you] thinking" is right
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Northern Mexico
Nov 29, 2005 - 07:49pm PT
I voted for him. I plan to never vote again. I am to stupid to vote.
George_W_Bush

Big Wall climber
Crawford, TX
Nov 29, 2005 - 07:55pm PT
Mr. Gramicci, I feel your pain. However, I was lobbing a preemptive strike(I am good at that) to head off what inevitably will be said about Johns defense of Michael. Just getting the comment out of the way at the beginning. I will not resign until I have brought liberalism to its knees and taken over the world's oil supplies.

Rajmit, nobody in MA voted for me, so I know you are a liar. If you will check the Reardon thread, I spelled Dude correctly there. In this thread, I was just trying to fit in with the average idiot climber that can't spell.

Juan, that was the real John Bachar and I am the real president.
Gramicci

Social climber
Ventura
Nov 29, 2005 - 07:59pm PT
Juanito, thanks

The LAST time I used one I soloed a big wall.

You’re right it wasn’t Bachar, he never really existed he just said he did. Pretty good fake on his email you think.?

Impeach the bushwacker
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Northern Mexico
Nov 29, 2005 - 08:00pm PT
Well mister President. Thanks for all the uneducated illegals that have destroyed my wonderful state of California.

So nice here in S Cali, come visit soon.

Juanito

Gramicci

Social climber
Ventura
Nov 29, 2005 - 08:08pm PT
“W” you’re a great politician here on ST as evident in last nights hilarious posts. I vote you keep on breaking the ice on inevitable questions.

I withdraw my request for Impeachment
bachar

Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
Nov 29, 2005 - 09:27pm PT
Thanks for the welcome guys! I'm new at this chat stuff but Gramicci said I should try it out. Don't know if I can keep up with all of you. How much time do you guys spend on all this? Are you guys drinking beers and stuff? Crazy....

Yeah Reardon wears my shoes and he actually does all this sh#t as well. Really though, it ain't all that impressive like people think. Well, maybe Romantic on-sight is... I'm surprised there aren't more dudes (sp?) out there doing this kinda sh#t. All these young guns are all killing it - what gives? Maybe everyone is out free soloing at night now days and they don't talk about it. Whatever.... hey if ya' need a good guitar check out Blanchard's sh#t - it's da' bomb. And Bush - go solo Romantic Warrior for us all, pleeeez. I'm out. peace.
T2

climber
Cardiff by the sea
Nov 29, 2005 - 09:57pm PT
Hey John, do you ever hear from the General anymore?
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Nov 29, 2005 - 10:55pm PT
Juanito: I voted for him. I plan to never vote again. I am to stupid to vote.

http://www.bettybowers.com/nl_redorblue.html
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Northern Mexico
Nov 30, 2005 - 12:43am PT
If you are John Bachar were did your dad teach math?

Juanito
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
Nov 30, 2005 - 01:08am PT
Words of warning to the new guys:

half of what is typed here, and on bbs in general, is bullsh#t. The other 50% is half-truths, and the rest, well, the good folks shine through on their own merits.







Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Straight Outta Squamton
Nov 30, 2005 - 02:54am PT
Bachar wrote:

How much time do you guys spend on all this?

An embarrassing amount. It's like an addiction.


Are you guys drinking beers and stuff? Crazy....

Fuçk yeah! I just finished a 22 oz Racer 5 IPA...

Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Nov 30, 2005 - 10:38am PT
Raj, why am I not surprised that you are a Bushite.

Welcome to the forum John, I haven't seen you or mike since 1978, I never climbed with you guys but I have bouldered with you. Actually, of the people on this forum that I have met before, I haven't seen any of them since the late 1970s, though I talked with Ronnie Kauk (but he doesn't post here) in Lee Vining Canyon ice climbing back in 1985.

As mungeclimber said, there is a lot of bull on this site, could be me.
Watusi

Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
Nov 30, 2005 - 11:56am PT
Hey John!! It's been forever!! How have you been!! MP
burp

Trad climber
Salt Lake City
Nov 30, 2005 - 02:32pm PT
Welcome John!

Don't want this to sound like hero worship or anything ... I just have a great respect for everything you've accomplished.

I've never met you, but the month/year I started climbing ('86), the first climbing mag I bought had your interview in it. Being an impressionable young man, looking at those pics and reading the interview/article ended up defining what climbing was (and still is) to me (the mag is carefully nestled in my bookcase to this day). I greatly respect your accomplishments (at least what I understand them to be). I still have my favorite climbing picture, of Shultz on the Bachar Yerian from an early Grammicci/Sole Survivor calendar, hanging on my wall at home (much to my wife's chagrin). It as well as your legacy of accomplishments continues to provide motivation for me to get out on the rock regularly.

Thank you for showing me and the world the possibilities!

Hope to meet you someday and get your autograph.

Anyway, enough sappiness...

Enjoy!

burp (Mike)


P.S. Michael Reardon's film spotlighting you is something deserved and long overdue. I look forward to viewing the film!
Mike.

climber
Nov 30, 2005 - 03:05pm PT
"Are you guys drinking beers and stuff?"

Hahaha... Now would we do that?


Glad you checked in, JB. Like the last poster, I haven't met you, but you definitely inspired me and many others I know. Thanks! Ya still blowin' sax? I've still got the Scott Fitzgerald CD with "Groovin' with Mr. B." on it; I hung with that Monterey crew for a summer back then.

Anyway, welcome!

Mike O.
10b4me

Trad climber
On that V2 problem at the Happies
Nov 30, 2005 - 03:35pm PT
Hi John,
like the two Mikes's posts above, I never met you, but you were one of my heroes back when I started climbing in the 1979. First time I saw you in person was in the mid-eighties at TM. you were soloing the left Watercrack on Lembert.
George_W_Bush

Big Wall climber
Crawford, TX
Nov 30, 2005 - 03:46pm PT
What in the name of Iraq is going on here? I never got so much as a "Nice to see you Mr. President" when I joined this forum. And then this Bachar guy joins, makes a couple of posts defending a friend, and people treat him like God? If it is Bachar, I am having my doubts. Hey, Mr. Bachar, post the last four digits of your phone number if it is really you. If you don't then I will get the IRS on your back.
WBraun

climber
Nov 30, 2005 - 04:20pm PT
This one will dispel all doubts if this really is John.

Tell me John, the name of the cameraman in the gillette commercial we did back in the day.

And what did he give me after the shoot was over.

I know Russ Knows ....... so don't tell.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Nov 30, 2005 - 05:50pm PT
Damn I am curious, what DID he give you Werner? (heh, heh)
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 30, 2005 - 07:03pm PT
Well, that about sums it up - we're so low brow we need Bachar-Braun ciphers to prevent creeping credtheft from turning us all into just another faceless John. Welcome - do keep your snorkel handy...
pc

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 30, 2005 - 07:37pm PT
Hmmm...Has a nice ring to it for a route (rout) name.

Bachar-Braun

You could even call it;)

The Bachar-Braun Cipher

if the route finding/move finding was particularly nasty.
elcapfool

Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
Nov 30, 2005 - 07:42pm PT
No, call it "Brauny Johnny"
deuce4

Big Wall climber
the Southwest
Nov 30, 2005 - 07:42pm PT
Werner, I know it too, as I was one of the riggers setting up Bachar and the cameramen for the shots. Remember the time we set up Separate Reality, the light was good and everything was set--then Union lunchtime required the full buffet on the road and by the time it was over we lost the light?

THen of course there was the three day El Cap swing rig that resulted in about a 1.5 second shot for the commercial.
WBraun

climber
Nov 30, 2005 - 07:49pm PT
Ducey yea don't we remember that dumb ass hollywood stuff, he he

Does Bachar now have a different line of shoes? No more boreal?
Gramicci

Social climber
Ventura
Nov 30, 2005 - 09:43pm PT
Werner, read from the beginning to answer that question :-)

For a little controversy, Russ Walling = Bachar and he can be reached at john@acopa.comon

GWB, that’s what you’d call a preemptive strike since Werner set up who else knows his question (besides deuce4)
WBraun

climber
Nov 30, 2005 - 10:08pm PT
Mike (Gramicci)

I've read the whole thread from begining to end and it still doesn't confirm if it's John B. WTF there's been so many imposters and posers here that you never really know who the fu-ck is who.

Thus who the fu-ck is bachar in this thread? Russ? impostering? or is it the real deal?

I find it hard to believe it's John.
Gramicci

Social climber
Ventura
Nov 30, 2005 - 10:15pm PT
Geeeez… Werner, for someone that doesn’t drink you’re a little testy here.

The first two posts confirm that the imposter does have another boot line, that’s all.
WBraun

climber
Nov 30, 2005 - 10:18pm PT
Who asked you rammy.

By the way rammy, you say you've climbed for x amount of years? Tell us WTF you've actually climbed in climbing area in the US. I'm really curious as if you actually do (climb) or are you just a lying poser?
bachar

Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
Nov 30, 2005 - 10:28pm PT
Is that you Werner? Yeah it's me bro. Caleb Deschanel (sp?) remember? Anyway I can't believe you're into this chat room stuff! I can barely keep up with this stuff. Who else is into this madness that I know? Chatting's cool but we should all get together and go free soloing and sh#t! Maybe Josh or something... We'll all try to keep up with Reardon - we can take turns and switch off between solos - he'd probably be cool with that. Maybe he'll do some easy sh#t so we can have a chance. Is Deucy on here too? Russ? I'm outta here for now, Don't drink too mch guys. Peace, jb
Gramicci

Social climber
Ventura
Nov 30, 2005 - 10:44pm PT
Werner, is it still raining up there?

I told you to get out of Dodge (Yosemite) and come down and visit me in another post. With no reply?... Its mellow down here, no rain some pretty good sandstone crags. You can unwind a little, I’ll drink beer :-)
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
Dec 1, 2005 - 01:02am PT
Hi Erik,

Welcome to ST.com. Good to have you on board.
Been on any good walls lately?


LOL!!!
matty

Big Wall climber
Valencia, CA
Dec 1, 2005 - 01:16am PT
Yeah Klaus it's pretty lame when people have heros that inspire them.

By providing a concrete example of an individual struggling against overwealming odds, heros help give us the power, and will to believe in our own goals, in purposes, in achievement and in the joy of living.

Matt

Edit: Klaus's post is now missing but he was basically calling everyone who publicly stated Bachar was a hero a mindless heard of sheep.
aldude

climber
Monument Manor
Dec 1, 2005 - 03:23am PT
Yo John, Once more into the breach! Stir it up.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Dec 1, 2005 - 05:55am PT
healyje: snorkel? Hell, you need a shovel for this forum.
John F. Kerry

Social climber
Boston, MA
Dec 1, 2005 - 10:03am PT
...joy of living...

Perhaps the lack of this joy is Klaus' problem. When you hate yourself and are mad at the world, heroes are irritating.

Oh, and welcome to the forum JB. My Boreal "Jazz" shoes lasted 10 years and got resoled 6 times. Hated to see those things go.
George_W_Bush

Big Wall climber
Crawford, TX
Dec 1, 2005 - 11:28am PT
It has been brought to my attention that faulty intelligence has led us to believe that John Bachar was actually participating in this forum. This faulty intelligence directly led to the sickening lovefest that we now see. Knowing that the intelligence was not genuine, we are face with a decision. Do we cut and run? Or do we stay the course and continue to act as if it is really John? I feel it is in our best interests to stay the course.

Have a nice day and God bless America!
Mike.

climber
Dec 1, 2005 - 11:59am PT
Holy sh!t, we can't pay respects and speak truths to the legends* of climbing without being some kind of grovelling groupie? Can we once they die? F*#king hilarious!

*whom we believe to actually be the person s/he purports to be

You pussies. Shut up and be a badass.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Dec 1, 2005 - 12:02pm PT
Like I said, you need a shovel for this forum, and of course especially for crap from the usual suspects, Kofi and GWB. You too K. Jealousy comes to mind.
burp

Trad climber
Salt Lake City
Dec 1, 2005 - 12:07pm PT
"sickening lovefest? superhomo's?"

hmmm ... came off a little thick, eh?

Hey, when one has some respect for a guy who has inspired many a climber (only non-California climbers?) and you want to commend him for it when a chance sighting (real or not, to be determined) comes upon supertacos ... all it comes to is grief!?!

Well, the praise has been unleashed ... . The horror!!

Sorry, I haven't anything else to contribute ... talk amongst yourselves.

Enjoy!

burp!
yo

climber
NOT Fresno
Dec 1, 2005 - 12:57pm PT
klaus=Carson Daly

Omigod, I saw him on TRL like this one time...eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! He looked right at me!
WBraun

climber
Dec 1, 2005 - 01:08pm PT
Gramicci

It's still raining as of today and it's actually dumping. I can't get out of dodge because I'm house sitting and other commitments. But I don't mind at all, it's really cool here now, actually it's the best time of the year. Nobody here and no weird scene that's always present in Yosemite.

I was in El Cap meadows yesterday morning and there was not one person nor any vehicles there. So cool.
Gramicci

Social climber
Ventura
Dec 1, 2005 - 01:17pm PT
Sounds cool Werner, I’ll have to come there and drink beer! Do you have an extra computer?
Michelle

Ice climber
my mother
Dec 1, 2005 - 01:29pm PT
I have a climb called 'Carson Daley is My Bitch'. 5.5 on a dirtly loose pile of crap. fun though.
WBraun

climber
Dec 1, 2005 - 01:31pm PT
Jody

I was in LA and then I came back I never made it to Wawona, I can't call you on a phone because I can't hear a phone conversation. I havn't used a phone since 1972. I looked around to see if you were here in the valley on Sat and Sun but I didn't see you.

To call me here in Yosemite you can leave a message at the SAR cache.

Mike (Gramicci) I've got extra computers or if you have your own Laptop you can easily get connected to my network either hardline Ethernet or wireless.

bachar

Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
Dec 1, 2005 - 03:41pm PT
WBraun
Yo Werner! Check out the Yosemite mummy cave for us all would ya? Take some pics if you find it. Thanks, Bachar

(see "Yosemite mummy" thread)
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 1, 2005 - 03:57pm PT
Anybody who thinks Bachar never fell soloing never heard his Saxaphone solos in the Ahwahnee Dorms in the early 80s...

A few years later, he was shredding though.

Welcome. Don't get addicted. We've even got Werner in our clutches now.

PEace

karl
Shack

Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
Dec 1, 2005 - 04:33pm PT
Hey! What happened to Klaus's post?

Does that mean that it's OK to start the,
"Eric Kohl is my hero" thread now?
Wonder

climber
WA
Dec 2, 2005 - 06:14am PT
i cant believe all the old names being thrown out. do people still remember Yabo? Bachar' sax & his burnt down house?
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 2, 2005 - 10:17am PT
Yeah, it's the gathering of the tribes. We have a few more names to go before we get together for the final event. The big question is "what kind of event?"

Battle to the death (there can be only one...)

or

Tupperware party (good for leftovers in the cooler of your van)

or

Everybody invests in a gated retirement community in El Portal. Harding's old climber's home made real.

or?... Subject for another thread

Peace

Karl
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Dec 2, 2005 - 10:55am PT
Jeff, he's afraid if he goes down the ST road, he might not be able to stop.

He know's where the skeltons are buried
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Ca
Dec 2, 2005 - 12:08pm PT
What name does Roy Boy post under?

And by the way, the retirement communitee is already forming but it is in Josh. Move there soon or be left out! I have dibs on KP's trailer on the side of the house.
Russ Walling

Social climber
NOT FOR LOAN™ CC3
Dec 2, 2005 - 12:17pm PT
Sorry ShortTimer,
That is where Powell keeps his harem locked up during daylight hours. Maybe AlDude can squeeze you in next door.
akclimber

Trad climber
Eagle River, AK
Dec 2, 2005 - 12:29pm PT
I just got off the phone with John. It is definitely NOT him posting here. Someone is having a load of fun with you guys but I won't reveal who it is.
Russ Walling

Social climber
NOT FOR LOAN™ CC3
Dec 2, 2005 - 12:58pm PT
here is something you can afford Swelly.....

http://www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com

I can get you a good rate if you stay for a month. Includes a stripper for one night if you promise to tip well.
Russ Walling

Social climber
NOT FOR LOAN™ CC3
Dec 2, 2005 - 01:24pm PT
Yeah... my spare crib.....

You would not be thinking that when you see me over there with the rubber gloves on scrubbing toilets. If it WAS my spare crib, I could really get you a good rate.

You could always sleep in my van.... got a leaky WiFi you can tap into.
Bart Fay

Trad climber
Redlands, CA
Dec 2, 2005 - 01:26pm PT

http://www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
"The Rio House"

Ain't that Cosgrove's place ?
Sparky

Trad climber
vagabon movin on
Dec 2, 2005 - 04:25pm PT
Anybody who thinks Bachar never fell soloing never heard his Saxaphone solos in the Ahwahnee Dorms in the early 80s...

Was he any good at the horn? What did he play on?
aldude

climber
Monument Manor
Dec 2, 2005 - 04:31pm PT
Hmmmm, maybe I should rent my shack for a couple of months. 2.5 acres,1 mile from entrance,fenced yard,shade trees - 500 a month? 400 for a chick!
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 3, 2005 - 12:01am PT
"Anybody who thinks Bachar never fell soloing never heard his Saxaphone solos in the Ahwahnee Dorms in the early 80s...

Was he any good at the horn? What did he play on?"

He was disciplined about practicing anyway. Now you can't practice a saxophone in a women's dormatory (or in your van parked outside) without making some noise, and it's not exactly the ideal solo instrument either. His practice sessions were infamous amoung some locals.

A number of years later I heard him play in a local band at a traditional Tuolumne Meadows closing party and he sounded great.

PEace

karl
straightandnarrow

Sport climber
Salt Lake City
Apr 4, 2006 - 01:58am PT
Welcome John, great being lovers with you in 1983, Tuolomne Meadows, mid- July.

Don't ya remember the rubber gloves? We climber something hard on Fairview, then did it again that night.

Jen
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Apr 4, 2006 - 02:02am PT
ummmm, pics pleeze?
straightandnarrow

Sport climber
Salt Lake City
Apr 4, 2006 - 02:13am PT
Bob, don't make me post pics, otherwise I'll have to post a pic of you and I having a real similar type of experience (if ya know what I mean).

It could be too disturbing!


Love ya, Jenny
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Apr 4, 2006 - 02:21am PT
oh, those halcyon days....
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Apr 4, 2006 - 02:33am PT
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Apr 4, 2006 - 02:53am PT
shite mang, ya done one ski track, ya done 'em all...
426

Sport climber
The Acquittal. TN.
Apr 4, 2006 - 08:58am PT
And Bush - go solo Romantic Warrior for us all, pleeeez. I'm out. peace.

Heh-classic, Mr. Bachar.



George_W_Bush

Big Wall climber
Crawford, TX
Apr 4, 2006 - 11:36am PT
"And Bush - go solo Romantic Warrior for us all, pleeeez. I'm out. peace.

Heh-classic, Mr. Bachar."

Hey, 426, pull your hero-worshipping, butt-licking nose out of Mr. Bachar's ass and I will challenge you to a solo-fest any day. After what I have been through leading this nation of malcontents, bitchers and complainers, I have no fear of anything.

As far as Mr. Bachar goes, at his age, if he is not a conservative yet there is no hope. :) Pussies like 426 are just part of the extra chromosome crowd.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Apr 4, 2006 - 03:00pm PT
Hey Georgie (that you Jody?)

Bachar runs a capitalist organization that would benefit from your money-grubbing for business policies, and he'd still like to see you impeached and face a war crimes tribunal.

I respect that more than his climbing ability.

Peace

Karl
Bart Fay

Social climber
Redlands, CA
Apr 4, 2006 - 05:45pm PT
Quite the rant, sister.

What a waste of effort when you end your diatribe by invoking Waugh to
justify your opinions.

George_W_Bush

Big Wall climber
Crawford, TX
Apr 4, 2006 - 09:51pm PT
Karl Babble, I am not Jody, and I swear to God. Jody has found a salvation your kind
will never know. I feel there is hope for Mr Bachar however. Whether he realizes it
or not, The Lord has provided for him during dangerous soloing, and will continue
to do so. On the other hand, a devout communist such as yourself might be beyond reach.

My administration will continue to keep a close eye on you, looking for any anti-American
activities. You had better watch your step!
426

Sport climber
The Acquittal. TN.
Apr 5, 2006 - 08:35am PT
awwwww, I hurt little Georgie's feelings. What's with the "homenemies" (I'm more into grits, fyi)...

Remember when you wuz "e-harmonizin" W? (True story)



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