Discussion Topic |
|
This thread has been locked |
| Messages 1 - 37 of total 37 in this topic |
Lindsey Ann
climber
El Portal, CA
|
|
|
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 10, 2010 - 04:28pm PT
|
Roger Brown has been volunteering in Yosemite for years and is a pretty amazing guy. He's currently working on a project to replace the bolts on the southwest face of half dome. He stopped in to visit with me on Thursday to show me pictures of his project and tell me about his adventures... what a guy! His project is expected to continue through the end of August. Every three days he spends one day hauling water up to his camp. He's camping in a yellow tent that's right on the approach trail to snake dike (two miles up from LYV) you can't miss it. He told me that if every person that climbs snake dike would bring him a small bottle of water (and just leave it by his tent), he could continue his bolt replacement on days when he would be hauling water. He's not one to ask for anything... which is why I thought I'd post this. For those of you who know Roger and the work that he does, you might be able to give some additional insight. Thanks! ~Lindsey
|
|
bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
|
|
|
Jul 10, 2010 - 04:34pm PT
|
Many thanks to Roger for his hard work replacing bolts. Also, kudos to Clint Cummins who helped string all the ropes Roger is using in his rebolting work. You guys are the bomb!
Bruce
ps - I would bring a gallon of water to Roger, but I am in France reporting on that bike race thing that Lance rides each July.
|
|
Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
|
|
|
Jul 10, 2010 - 05:24pm PT
|
It's a big project - Roger carried 1950' of rope to the base of Snake Dike, with a little assist from the pack horses, who got some ropes to Little Yosemite Valley.
Roger replacing on the Apron (Hoppy's Favorite), 2009
We may have the dubious distinction of being one of the few teams to pull a forced bivvy on Snake Dike!
(In an alcove at the top where a big slab detached from an arch). It was Roger's first forced bivvy.
In the morning, Roger went down the ropes a ways to free them, and I led a traversing pitch to get above Autobahn. We then fixed the ropes down Autobahn with dry mouths in a heat wave. After hitting Roger's water cache and a nap, I bailed, but Roger has been busy since replacing bolts on Autobahn, Fast Lane and probably Dreamscape by now.
It's a big, impressive face.
QITNL's photo, posted by Peter Haan - routes are on the left side of the face; you can just see the tree near the top of Autobahn - above a long horizontal roof with a streaked golden/orange/brown face below.
Past summers' bolt replacement threads:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/912351/Bolt-replacement-2009
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=659883 (Apron 8/2008)
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/622678/Middle-Cathedral-North-Face-Apron-rebolting-photo-TR-6-14-08
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/441303/Glacier-Point-Bolt-Re-placement-Update (8/2007)
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=416237 (Arches Terrace, 7/2007)
|
|
rincon
Trad climber
SoCal
|
|
|
Jul 10, 2010 - 06:46pm PT
|
His project is expected to continue through the end of August. Every three days he spends one day hauling water up to his camp. He's camping in a yellow tent that's right on the approach trail to snake dike (two miles up from LYV) you can't miss it.
Is that legal? I thought there was a limit to how long you can camp in one spot, and right on the trail?
I like old bolts, and think these type of complete replacement projects steal the adventure from climbing, sorry to be a spoil sport, but That's wilderness, not Alabama Hills.
|
|
Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
|
|
|
Jul 10, 2010 - 07:14pm PT
|
"Trail"? :-) A definite bushwhack in places, with 3rd class sections.
It's legal to bivvy on the wall as long as you want. Not much difference here; he could hang a portaledge just off the ground, but there's not much point. It's very low impact where he is.
It's fun to look at all the different old bolts/hangers, but there is still plenty of adventure in the runouts. I guess you could clip with faded tat draws if you want a bigger adventure with the new bolts? Maybe lead on a 6mm rope? :-)
I'm just glad with some of the bolt remnants I've found that I feel OK soloing in many places:
former "protection" bolt on The Smile (aka The Mouth).
|
|
Studly
Trad climber
WA
|
|
|
Jul 10, 2010 - 07:19pm PT
|
Many thanks and kudos for the impressive efforts to replace the old bolts.
|
|
SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
|
|
|
Jul 10, 2010 - 07:24pm PT
|
WOW!
If I were out there, I'd surely bring him a gallon.
Great job, Roger. Magnifique!
|
|
Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
|
|
|
Jul 10, 2010 - 07:36pm PT
|
cool to see those Fires back at work Clint!
good on you guys, you're absolutely great!
|
|
10b4me
Boulder climber
The End Is Near Retirement Home
|
|
|
Jul 10, 2010 - 09:38pm PT
|
thanks to Roger, and his cohorts
|
|
Jobee
Social climber
El Portal Ca.
|
|
|
Jul 10, 2010 - 09:59pm PT
|
Roger is a rock star!
and Clint, those images are priceless!
Can't stop smiling.
Jo
|
|
avid
Trad climber
sacramento, ca
|
|
|
Jul 11, 2010 - 02:24am PT
|
Dang! I wish I knew this yesterday. Did snake dike today and saw his tent and him on the rock. Had I known I would have hauled up a gallon! That approach was terrible I feel bad he has to do that weekly.
|
|
Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
|
|
|
Jul 16, 2010 - 08:09pm PT
|
Thank you Flanders, and your clients, for the three gallons. And hey, just hiking in and doing Snake Dike is a bigger deal than many realize. I see it all from up there, I see you lost and off route in the brush, I hear you folks passing by camp in the middle of the night after bailing. Don't worry about hauling water. I am getting by OK. It is just refreshing to know Clint and I are not the only ones that had an epic on Snake Dike:-) I think Autobahn and The Fast Lane are finished. There are some issues between what the Topo's say and what is actually there that need to be resolved. I am home doing some research for a couple days. Dreamscape has been started. I am having the adventure of a lifetime,
Roger
|
|
scuffy b
climber
Eastern Salinia
|
|
|
Jul 16, 2010 - 08:18pm PT
|
Thanks, Roger, for your work (that goes for all your past projects as well,
of course).
I really didn't expect Autobahn and Fast Lane ever to get replaced, so I
always just looked at the topos wistfully.
I just might have to turn myself back into a face climber.
|
|
caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
|
|
|
Jul 16, 2010 - 08:40pm PT
|
You guys are rad! Thanks for doing that.
I don't care to see the old hardware on routes, I'd rather see it in a museum.
Not that I'll ever do it, but I've heard that autobahn has 1 bolt belays. Did you guys beef it up to two, or is it still just 1?
|
|
mark miller
Social climber
Reno
|
|
|
Jul 16, 2010 - 09:03pm PT
|
I'd go to the ends of the earth for Roger ( His work should be appreciated by everyone)...
But I only do snake dike every other decade, and I'm Knott due to repeat it again until 2017, sorry "Sir".
If I happen chance to wonder in the area I'll help resupply you with some H2O, sunscreen, Beer and whatever else I can help make your efforts easier.
Thanks (humbly) Roger for all your tireless sacrifice...
|
|
Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
|
|
|
Jul 16, 2010 - 09:09pm PT
|
um--wouldn't using a filter on the upper merced there save everyone a lot of steps and trouble?
|
|
Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
|
|
|
Jul 16, 2010 - 10:53pm PT
|
Wow,
I'm going to post twice in one day:-) 1 bolt belays are still just one bolt, but that bolt is now 3/8"ss w/one of those double ring hangers so you don't have to leave as much stuff if you bail or lower off. All the 1 bolt belays will take gear so you can make them really bomber. 9 has a bottomed out knifeblade to back up the new bolt that I will upgrade to a bigger pin if I get back there. You could probably fiddle in some other stuff. I replaced the bolt protecting that 11+ double roof thing yesterday. I struggled over it a couple times now with ascenders on my fixed rope and it beat me up both times. I saw just 1 hold, you can match hands, but still only 1 hold. Its a mantle. It looks really hard and the old bolt looked a bit used. As for the water, I have just been drinking the water right from where it runs out of lost lake, unfiltered. It is only 1 hour from there to camp. So much stuff could go wrong as it is, I guess I just don't think about the water. I'm up to 2 gallons a day now and will probably go higher if I follow the advice of my friend Zach. If I am not mistaken, the water we drink in the Valley comes right out of the river anyway. Just goes thru a screen to get the chunks out. The drinking fountains at the bridge on the hike in? How would they pump it up there? Where would the pipes be? I better quit talking. I just might be really dumb:-)
|
|
bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
|
|
|
Jul 17, 2010 - 10:39am PT
|
Roger is an absolute asset to climbers that is under appreciated.
Thanks Roger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And likewise with Clint, but Clint usually gets the thank yous he deserves. Thanks for all the history and documentation, Clint! It IS appreciated.
Thanks guys!!!!
|
|
pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
|
|
|
Jul 17, 2010 - 12:18pm PT
|
both you guys are always doing something awesome.
good job!
|
|
Carol Brown
climber
|
|
|
Jul 18, 2010 - 06:42pm PT
|
OK this is Carol Brown, first time to post. Thank you all for your appreciative words for Roger and Clint's work with the bolt replacement. And thanks Lindsey for mentioning the need to keep this guy hydrated.
|
|
Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
|
|
|
Jul 18, 2010 - 08:04pm PT
|
Roger, if you get the trots, start heading down. I've drank unfiltered water from mid sierra elevations and it can be contaminated. But heck, you're so damn bad ass, the bugs will run from ya! Thanks a mil!
Scuffy, when u wanna go up? I'll email you.
|
|
altieboo
Boulder climber
Livermore, Ca
|
|
A buddy and I are headed up to climb the dike Saturday. Anything of need that we can bring by?
|
|
Flanders!
Trad climber
June Lake, CA
|
|
Hi Roger,
Glad to see that you still are hanging
In there up at the S. Face and that support
For your efforts are growing. The climbers
in the Valley owe you an Obama size debt
of gratitude for your work. Thanks Roger !
Doug
|
|
Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
|
|
Major effort, Roger! Thanks.
In the absence of any buddy system, does Roger at least have a walkie talkie while he works alone up there?
|
|
altieboo
Boulder climber
Livermore, Ca
|
|
Bumb for people making climbs safer for the rest of us.
|
|
Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
|
|
What to bring: how about a 2-liter bottle full of water? (Fill at river just before you go off the main Half Dome hiking trail) Drop off at Roger's yellow tent, which is at the base of the rock, below the top of Autobahn.
Roger has a cell phone up there; good reception.
|
|
Larry
Trad climber
Bisbee
|
|
I'd haul some water if I was in Yosemite. Could have used support like that on Crest Jewel. At least there's a spring a mile away from the summit of North Dome.
I remember belaying off a single 1/4" SMC hangered bolt below the crux of the Salathe route (backed up by a #1 Stopper). Not at all sure it it was original though!
|
|
Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
|
|
Roger may need help carrying stuff out, too. Garbage, stuff he's found on and at the base of the cliff, empty bottles, and so on.
|
|
TomCochrane
Trad climber
Boulder Creek CA
|
|
We're thinking of going up there this weekend. Is Roger up there?
|
|
Joe
Social climber
Santa Cruz
|
|
thank you guys.
|
|
Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
|
|
Wow,
I just got home, and I'm on the first page of the forum :-) Autobahn and The Fast Lane are completed and the fixed ropes removed. Dreamscape was finished yesterday and thats where the fixed ropes are now. There is also now a fixed rope running from our high point above Autobahn to the east end of the big slab at the top of Snakedike. That was the first real climbing I've done in years. Plenty of places to place gear so it was pretty safe. This fixed rope will make moving the main fixed ropes over to Snake Dance and Eye in the Sky a bit easier. I understand the bolts on those two routes are really bad and though I am pretty anxious to get on them I thought it would be wise to take a few days off. I've been drinking 2 gallons a day now, but there are still dehydration issues if a person dosen't take enough time off. I hate to admit it but I'm just getting older and not as tough as I once was :-) I found 3 routes up there that are not in the guide books. I will post more on them when I get all my notes together this winter sometime. To me, the south side of Half Dome is a really special place and I feel honored that I'm the guy that gets to do the bolt replacement up there. I am getting the water from the river now as the water that comes out of lost lake is no longer flowing. I am picking up one of those gravity flow water filters while I'm home so if anyone was to drop any water off at my camp, don't worry about filtering it. If by chance something happens and you need water, the water in the bottles with slings is clean. The bottles without slings has not been filtered.
Roger
|
|
Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
|
|
Roger - The next time I visit, I will leave you a token of my appreciation. I worship trail builders, climber advocates, bolt replacers, anyone who gives back. Clipping the bolts are adventure enough for me, and I am glad to know that they are newer.
|
|
scuffy b
climber
Eastern Salinia
|
|
Munge, no problem, I'll go when you can lead 5.11D with serious
reputation for scariness.
|
|
k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
|
|
|
Aug 11, 2010 - 07:05pm PT
|
"I replaced the bolt protecting that 11+ double roof thing yesterday. I struggled over it a couple times now with ascenders on my fixed rope and it beat me up both times. I saw just 1 hold, you can match hands, but still only 1 hold. Its a mantle. It looks really hard and the old bolt looked a bit used."
I always wondered, and Roger's description doesn't clarify it, would you have to rap if you couldn't pull the .11+? I guess there's only one way to find out ;-)
Rope Gun!!
Scruffy, Munge, let's go!
|
|
Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
|
|
|
Aug 15, 2010 - 03:31pm PT
|
oh, just saw this. nice, we have a quorum of three. Now who's the knucklehead that will get on the sharp end?
/munge looks at his foot, and stirs the dirt with his big toe.
|
|
mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
|
|
|
May 17, 2012 - 12:13am PT
|
I am partial to this section of Half Come and would like to know the whatabouts of Roger Brown, the howzeedoons, and Carol, of course. It was almost two years since the topic was posted to. On.
And would anyone think it too early to plan a 50-yr. mass-cal on Snake Dike?
And just for curiosity, are the bolts all shipshape? Yes/no? Both questions.
|
|
| Messages 1 - 37 of total 37 in this topic |
|
SuperTopo on the Web
|
Let us know!