fluctuation of taco quality

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Bolt Cop

Social climber

Dolt Tower

Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 19, 2005 - 12:22am PT

it seems as though, as quickly as supertopo gets good, a few actual climbers, climbing related topics (a dead horse i know), and (this is way overused too..) old dads speaking up, it goes straight to sh it. not a post do i see that offers anything remotely intriguing. bull sh it...

here are some sh itty ideas, albeit better than the aforementioned lacking topics:

the first person who got you psyched on rocks?

the first person to teach you what the hell to do?

the first person to get you in an incredibly frightening situation (climbing, that is)

the bolt you'd most like to chop?

the bolt your most pissed somebody chopped?

the route you'd most like to do?

the route you wished you'd done but are now too old/lazy to ever complete?

the route you are most psyched on having completed? (holding the excessive spray)

the area you'd most like to visit/return to?

maybe somebody even wants information on an actually interesting route???

i think this may be a lost cause, and like i said, these suggestions probably suck, but seeing as everyone here knows so much, im sure someone could get the picture and come up with something good. if anyone even remembers, i usually chime in with very caustic, confrontational bullsh it, which is fun, everyone should have an alter ego...

basically, just give me some sort of actual entertainment, its nice to come here and be absorbed in wasting a few minutes of my time, like i sort of just did.

ciao, ???

dirtbag

climber

Nov 19, 2005 - 01:12am PT

The biggest mole I'd like to whack: me!

TradIsGood

Trad climber

Gunks end of country

Nov 19, 2005 - 07:56am PT

Quality. To make this more interesting, you need to give it a better focus. Also, selecting a "topic" that is catching will help. Of course, after you post, you may get kitchen sink responses anyway, but inviting them from the get-go...

Think to "back in the day", old dad... Like when you where in high school English class learning about topic sentences, and cohesive paragraphs.

Browse this site and find the threads that are good and meaningful to you. What qualities do they share? Find the threads that could have been, but failed. What caused them to fail?

The good one are typical slightly open ended. Not the kind that invite one word answers, but rather invite interesting tales, even if they are totally fictional. Some of the best here are.

happiegrrrl

Trad climber

New York, NY

Nov 19, 2005 - 10:13am PT

well....I think that this thread is pretty boring, OP....Sorry to break it to you.

Here's an idea - when you see thread titles that don't interest you - don't open them. And when you see that a post, or a thread, is going in a direction that bores you, stop reading.

You sound like the kid who just won't go to bed at night when the parents have guests because he's afraid he'll miss something.....(I'm teasing you).

You will never be able to control the content in a web forum, unless you are the moderator, and....well....I don't know about you, but I 'd hope you have beeter things to do than controlling other people's words!

pud

climber

Sportbikeville

Nov 19, 2005 - 03:09pm PT

good, bad, silly, important?
kind of relative terms to me.
any forum subject posted is important to someone.
to try and police subject matter posted on this forum or any other is futile.
it's a campfire, if you don't like whats being said argue the point or, shut up and drink your beer.

Loom

climber

167 stinking feet above sea level : (

Nov 19, 2005 - 04:37pm PT

I agree with pud, so I'm going to pull my pud here, so to speak.

For a while now I have preferred to be more of a voyeur rather than a participant in the on-line verbal circle-jerk that is the SuperTopo Climber’s Forum™.

In my opinion the quality is low right now, not so much because of the political circle-jerks or scarcity of climbing- related jerk-off competitions, but because of threads that focus on SuperTopo™ itself. Question: what could be more insipid than yanking the plank while thinking about yanking the plank? Answer: Talking about how someone else talks about whacking the weasel. (Yes, I know, here I am, priming the pump too.) Some people just have a compulsive urge to evict the testicular squatters even when there’s no ink to Flick your Bic™, and the dolphin’s skin is sloughing off from too much flogging. Why don’t we all strum the one-stringed harp while we talk about whether or not Lois was faking it when we tickled the taco with her earlier? Can we all burp our worms while we are simultaneously wondering whether Juan was Lois, whether Juan was faking it, and how Juan could fire his pound gun so many times in one day when we were tweaking our Twinkies with Juan earlier. And don’t forget to cuddle your kielbasa when you’re wondering why so many STers want to crank the shank when Crimpie’s in the house. This is one of the best examples of boys playing with the pink torpedo and girls playing with the man in the boat while talking about the Oscar Meyer™ love spell. That sure doesn’t make me want to paint the ceiling, but carry on; I have no desire to corral anyone’s tadpoles.

As for the climbing related circle-jerks, they rarely catch my interest unless we’re all jacking off about the direction climbing is headed, and unless I feel like I have a chance at making a difference in the real world; keeping STers from spooging bolts all over the rock, so to speak. I rarely respond to noob bullsh!t; bludgeoning the beefsteak over the How to Fvck™ instruction manual! Sheesh! Work for it; learn it. Same goes for trip reports and stories. I prefer to share my stories about the real thing while I’m with good friends. (Kinky, I know.)

In the political circles some whip their drippers to utopian fantasies, some clear their snorkels to vicious, sadistic delusions, and some do wrist aerobics to narcissistic hallucinations. Then while extolling the virtues of their particular daydream, they attack each other for the fantasies that the others enjoy when goosing their gherkins. But they don’t really listen to each other—they just wait for an opportunity to attack. They search for a weakness in the other guy’s fantasy without really looking critically at the shortcomings of their own. Fatrad and Jody have been using the secret handshake since forever to their non-ironic version of A Modest Proposal : solve the problems of the Middle East by devouring Islamic babies. And with the exception of some Peak Oil arguments no one has been playing the skin flute to a different tune in the political circle-jerks.

Even if you could get someone to buff his banana or tug her vertical smile to the same fantasy as you—so what? You and he or she are still just jackin’. As for myself I too am quite sure that my fantasy is the best, but it’s not worth it to me to get so frustrated and disgusted at not being able to get someone to stop nerking his throbber to thoughts filled with murder or hubris that I want to hunt him down and punch him in the nose.

As I said before, except when I’ve gotten extremely bored, I’ve preferred to watch rather than participate in the on-line verbal circle-jerk lately. Not that there's anything wrong with oiling the obelisk, but that is all that almost everything on ST really is; don't take it too seriously. I think I’m better off not to trying to control what other people want to smack their oompa loompas about, so I wait for boredom or something interesting to me, while I watch and just shake my head . . . errr, shake my head.

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