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Fuzzywuzzy

climber
suspendedhappynation
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 24, 2010 - 08:03am PT
Doug, glad there is no slippery "log crossing" eh?
Jeremy

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Jun 24, 2010 - 08:08am PT
HOLY F*#KING SH#T BUMP!!!!!!!!

That is ROWDY!

WOW MAN!!!!
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Jun 24, 2010 - 08:22am PT
Yeah it's scary for sure but it is also incredibly beautiful! Thanks for putting this up TFC.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jun 24, 2010 - 08:47am PT
Tell ya what, I'd rather solo El Cap with a 7 mil than do that!
Delhi Dog

Trad climber
Good Question...
Jun 24, 2010 - 09:39am PT
^^
Gravity is an interesting thing to play with isn't it...?
Mark works against it, and the boys in the clip work with it.

But a 7 mil...think I'd go with the flow...

DD
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Jun 24, 2010 - 09:53am PT
Fritz

I remember an adventure when Lesser, Wasson and Jocelyn Slack, (wife de Wasson), were on a delivery from San Diego to the Sea of Cortez with Jeff Foott on his 34 ft powerboat.

The boat, "Rose Bud" was a clone of a Grand Banks and well set up for coastal waters but a wee bit of a chore offshore in bad weather and big seas. I recollect Jeff relating some rather "interesting" rides running down some nasty swells. Appears, there was often too little hesitation in leaving a secure anchorage to continue the passage south.

Not that many places to get out of bad weather and once you commit you are in it for the ride no matter what. Only one way to go and that is south. Yee doggie hang on here comes another one.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jun 24, 2010 - 01:15pm PT
I recollect Jeff relating some rather "interesting" rides running down some nasty swells.

I've been on a 600', 10k ton cruiser in 80'+ seas driving down long ramps and stuffing into the next wave over and over for half a day. Pretty much put me off blue water sailing. 'The Chief' here had it easy on subs.
Pate

Trad climber
Jun 24, 2010 - 03:23pm PT
I've seen that river big, in '96, but nothing compared to that. That is some absolutely huge water.

The killer thing about high water like that- no pins or strainers and the holes mostly flush right out. Stay in the boat with your tea-kettle on top and ride it out.
Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
Jun 24, 2010 - 03:25pm PT
There ARE nice DRY rocks nearby.
Quite a few are choss, but there's the odd jewel, here & there.
Did I mention they were dry? Rage on, floaters.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 24, 2010 - 05:17pm PT
Awesome stuff
Nearly makes me seasick to watch.....and I don't get seasick!
Puts the little class 3 Kennebec stuff to shame.

Not to draw a comparison but the Middle Fork Kings was way high and fast on Memorial Day. Looked un-doable to me. Probably just a warmup for these guys.
Gunkie

Trad climber
East Coast US
Jun 24, 2010 - 05:57pm PT
At least it doesn't look like too many strainers. Strainers scare the sh#t out of me. All these east coast creeks are festooned with strainers as soon as the water gets a little high.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 24, 2010 - 06:03pm PT
uhhhhh
what's a strainer?
or do I have to guess?
Jingy

Social climber
Nowhere
Jun 24, 2010 - 06:17pm PT
Thanks for the info...


I just watched this again...

At times, when the shot is from far away.. it almost looks like the riders are computer generated.. but... I know that the dementions of the river, waves and rock are all huge...

Looks like fun...

oh, and great story about Rolf... "... if you did that... here.... you'd be dead....!!!"

"Ok.. then I'm dead... can you help me find me boat?"

classic
Fritz

Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
Jun 24, 2010 - 06:24pm PT
My apologies.

I made some date and name errors yesterday when I was talking about the first continuous descent of the Smiths Ferry to Banks stretch of the North Fork Payette.

I have corrected my post, but let me add-----some more trivia.

When Rob Lesser decided to photograph rather than kayak the first continuous descent in 1979, he drove down the river and stopped to take photos at what he knew were critical spots.

At the long crux drop named “Jacobs Ladder,” Wasson lost his boat and took a survival swim to shore. At nearly the same spot: Rick Fernald “pinned” the front of his kayak under a rock on the highway side of the river. Lesser was able to wade out and wrestle the boat free.

After Jacobs Ladder: the party had no more major problems.

The first continuous raft descent of the stretch was in 1987 by people who would latter start Aire Inflatables. Their early catarafts had the ability to “punch through” the holes, and maneuver around the rocks.

The video taken of the descent is pretty amazing. I doubt if it is still on the market though.

Aire Raft on Jacob's Ladder.  Photo courtesey Aire.
Aire Raft on Jacob's Ladder. Photo courtesey Aire.
Credit: Fritz

A continuing problem on the Class V section of the North Fork Payette, is that directly above and below it are Class III "tourist floats." Common sense keeps most unprepared boaters off the Class V, but of course not everyone has common sense. A drowning occured last summer when a load of recreational rafters (ship of fools) ignored advice from concerned onlookers, and came to grief in the last section of the Smiths Ferry to Banks run.

Fecking "tourists" on the South Fork Payette.  NO WAIT!  That's us,4th...
Fecking "tourists" on the South Fork Payette. NO WAIT! That's us,4th of July weekend 2009. Damn tourons.
Credit: Fritz
Double D

climber
Jun 24, 2010 - 07:55pm PT
Ho man, that's just wrong. Thanks for sharing Tom.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Jun 24, 2010 - 08:01pm PT
High Traverse - imagine if you will.... you (the boater) are a spaghetti noodle and you're now soft and got poured into a strainer. You're stuck in the strainer/rocks/trees while water pours over you. With a little luck you are upright. But considering if you don't get help and you'll be dead soon you might just prefer to be upside down to get it over with quicker.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 24, 2010 - 08:11pm PT
Yeah
I was afraid that was what was meant!
Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
Jun 24, 2010 - 09:11pm PT
As long as they don't blow up the Salmon again, I'm cool with the floaters.
Fricken folks never heard of a portage? Boat people have been doin' them for Thousands of years.
Like I said(typed), rage on, you crazy bastards.
Fritz

Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
Jun 24, 2010 - 09:42pm PT
Skully: We portaged the 2006 thunderstorm-induced log-jam that blocked the heavy tourist traffic on the Middle Fork Salmon.

Of course, I wrote a story about it. Yeah I'll post it one of these days.
Outside and Mountain Gazette rejected it.

The 2006 logjam at Pistol Creek rapid.
The 2006 logjam at Pistol Creek rapid.
Credit: Fritz

We moved 3 rafts and one kayak, and all the crap that rafters take on a 7 night/eight day trip, about 1.5 miles down a trail. It was 8 round trips for the best of us. We talked a horse-packer into doing our final load of a "self-bailer" raft and our beer-filled coolers.

Unfortunately, the day we did the "portage from hell:" the Forest Service blew up the log jam.

The money shot!  My pal Jerry got the perfect shot of the logjam explo...
The money shot! My pal Jerry got the perfect shot of the logjam explosion. We are about one mile below the blast. Our portaged rafts were about 200 hundred yards downstream, but nothing big fell on them.
Credit: Fritz


We still felt better about ourselves, that we had: "self-rescued."

We also had a head-start on the hundreds of stranded boaters that started the day after the explosion.

Fritz & Heidi with all our "portaged crap" at Tappen Falls on what bec...
Fritz & Heidi with all our "portaged crap" at Tappen Falls on what became: an eight night/nine day Middle Fork Salmon trip.
Credit: Fritz



Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
Jun 24, 2010 - 09:56pm PT
HoMan! I'd have sued 'em for creating a "Hazardous Situation".....after all, You were Downstream.........Hey, you're Citizens, too, right?

Wilderness is too precious to blow up.
Cheers to you guys. Self reliance in Wilderness, or Death.
Otherwise, It's just Disney all over again. Yeesh.
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