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hafilax

Trad climber
East Van
Jun 23, 2010 - 07:59pm PT
What are some good standards to know in the off chance that I come across a spontaneous hoedown?
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Jun 23, 2010 - 08:04pm PT
This discussion answered some questions I've had for a while, regarding the backbeat strumming.

It seems to me that when the guitar is strumming, it's also on the backbeat. It also sounds like an upstroke. Am I hearing it correctly?
Chief

climber
Jun 23, 2010 - 09:43pm PT
Wow. I just tried it and.. it's Puff! G, Bmin, C, G. Got any good recordings of either of them?
Not sure on the first, Peter Paul and Mary on the second.


What are some good standards to know in the off chance that I come across a spontaneous hoedown?
Top ten parking lot picking tunes? Here's ten standards that will work in a jam anywhere.

Gold Rush
Red Haired Boy
Salt Creek
Bill Cheatham
Wildwood Flower
Whiskey Before Breakfast
Blackberry Blossom
Arkansas Traveller
Jerusalem Ridge
Old Joe Clark


It seems to me that when the guitar is strumming, it's also on the backbeat. It also sounds like an upstroke. Am I hearing it correctly?

Yes. It can be a downstroke or upstroke strum on the offbeat.
The style that some call "boom chick" provides both the beat and backbeat.
Some guitar players like to emphasize the offbeat, it's situational.
A lot of the best bluegrass rhythm players can easily provide some of both and transition as required, McCoury, Rice and Sutton for example.

If there's no mando in the mix or when that instrument is taking a break others can and do fill in with a muted slap with fiddle bow, a banjo cluck, reso brush or guitar strum. Once you recognize the dynamic it becomes fascinating to hear it when the big boys and girls play.
It's not the notes, it's the groove.
mooser

Trad climber
seattle
Jun 23, 2010 - 10:45pm PT
Chief, that's the killer lineup. I'd add a personal favorite as well: Cherokee Shuffle.
Chief

climber
Jun 24, 2010 - 12:15am PT
Ditto for the First Nations moccasin drag.
Personal favorite.
Bertrand

Trad climber
SF
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 24, 2010 - 02:16pm PT
FNMD, classic!! I'd also swap Red Wing for J-Ridge on that list.
Bertrand

Trad climber
SF
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 24, 2010 - 02:19pm PT
Is anybody here in California? I would seriously like to make this hoedown happen.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Jun 24, 2010 - 02:24pm PT
I say we gather at the Alabama Hills....
Bertrand

Trad climber
SF
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 24, 2010 - 04:25pm PT
Ya! I could do that in late July / early August. Mooser, Chief and the gang, come down here.
mooser

Trad climber
seattle
Jun 24, 2010 - 04:36pm PT
Sounds fun, bertrand, but I'll be climbing up this-a-way in late July.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Jun 24, 2010 - 04:45pm PT
let's talk about puff the magic dragon--is that song about marijuana or isn't it?
harihari

Trad climber
Squampton
Jun 24, 2010 - 06:47pm PT
Amazing how many of that list are/were Irish tunes too.

So Perry are you hosting a jam anytime soon in Squamish? Hordes of Yanks come up every summer. There's got to be the odd one who will have both an instrument, enough tips left at day's end to play, and a few tunes under their belt. And a few of us from Vancouver play as well.
scuffy b

climber
Eastern Salinia
Jun 24, 2010 - 09:06pm PT
I have never heard of anyone except one writer for Newsweek ca. 1966
who thought that song was about marijuana.

The newsweek guy went all out, though, no left turn unstoned, so to speak.

Puff (get it?) the magic dragon (drag-on, get it?) lived by the Sea (code
for C, that is, Cocaine, get it?) and frolicked in the Autumn mist in a
land called Honalee (the uber well-known code word for the state of heroin
intoxication)

And Little Jacky Paper is obviously code for the ZigZag Man...

I have no doubt that the songwriter didn't know the song was about drugs
until he read it.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Jun 24, 2010 - 09:13pm PT
eastside hoedown? i know someone in bishop i can harmonize with, but it'll probably amount to another square peg. can you sound like a hillbilly on "over the hill to the poorhouse"?

"paper" is what clinched it for me. never heard of anyone named paper. and hadn't heard that about honalee.

Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Jun 24, 2010 - 09:15pm PT
haha--the flower child who'd sit by the ocean in complete communion with nature, sharing the good things with the wildlife, throwing tidbits to the seagulls laced in LSD ...

... leaving no tern unstoned.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jun 24, 2010 - 09:34pm PT
Well, it isn't exactly bluegrass, but it is folk music. Perry's favourite song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wik2uc69WbU
Chief

climber
Jun 24, 2010 - 10:48pm PT
Favorite tune? Not!
Mighty, we're going to have to sort this one out off line.
Glad to hear there's hardcore bluegrassers out there on the Forum.
Chris, I'm always picking and up for a jam.
If there's climber/pickers hanging in Squamish looking for a jam, give a call. Hell, we can get one going at Psyche Ledge or the Chief campground (not my front yard, the other one).

For the record, this is one of my favorites.

youtube tony rice church street blues (Can't figure out the link thing)
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Jun 24, 2010 - 11:14pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JFgC3Ub10E

Tony Rice Rules!

Cattle in the Cane is one of my faves..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilaPcnatT-U
Timid TopRope

Social climber
Paradise, CA
Jun 24, 2010 - 11:24pm PT
If you do an east side hoedown, make sure to invite Annie Cashner. She just got back from dobro camp. I've had a lot of great jams with her and her pals and hubby. She's getting some good chops on that thing.....not to mention Fiddling Pete. Just sayin'
harihari

Trad climber
Squampton
Jun 25, 2010 - 12:41pm PT
Holy sh*t the man can play. Every time I listen to something like this, I realise that, in the grand school of music, I am still in not even kindergarten but pre-school.

Now if anybody wants to see that level of amazingness on mandolin, check out Jim Richter playing Munroe's "Tanyards."
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