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Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Canada
Sep 16, 2014 - 08:49pm PT
Yeah, I am too.

With all things there is the ability for people to excel at what they do in ways that may not pay the bottom line. I know there are people who build houses and employ things like remote control cranes,boom lifts and secure steel or aluminum scaffolding.

It's a fact, at least up here in Canada that if a project is a stand alone single family dwelling in a suburban neighbourhood there isn't much civil oversight other than mandatory building inspections based on progress milestones. The odds of sanctions against cutting corners are gambled on during 6 weeks to completion.
ruppell

climber
Sep 16, 2014 - 09:04pm PT
Some people cut corners, some don't. Framers aren't the only ones that do this. Singling out one trade is bogus.

Every see a dry wall guy mudding while standing on a spackle bucket? Ever see an electrician make a hot tie in? Ever see a backhoe operator on way to steep of a slope? Ever see concrete guys using ply instead of lvl's for tall forms? I have.

I was a framer for a long time. Never had a job related lost time injury. I worked with pros and we used the proper tool for the job.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 16, 2014 - 09:05pm PT
Ruppell,...Ever seen a grown man naked...?
ruppell

climber
Sep 16, 2014 - 09:08pm PT
Yep. Even a few times on the job site. lol
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Sep 16, 2014 - 09:09pm PT
A little something I've been working on:

Credit: sandstone conglomerate


nah000

climber
canuckistan
Sep 16, 2014 - 09:14pm PT
JB: while you have a point, regarding mindless and/or macho safety cultures, i'm sure you'd agree there is a balance in there... i recently had a good conversation with a safety consultant who discussed his view that there is a bit of a returning tide within the safety industry... that being, that the historically speaking, relatively recent trend towards rule oriented attempts at the elimination of risk can be in certain situations as counterproductive as mindless or ego driven risk acceptance...

i always find it interesting how much overlap there is between risk and safety discussions in construction and those regarding safe climbing...
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Canada
Sep 16, 2014 - 09:15pm PT
Yes Ruppell, all true except the threshold of due diligence and bonded obligation is much lower to bid on wood frame houses in comparison to what it takes to be accepted to bid on commercial tenant improvement jobs or commercial base building construction.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Canada
Sep 16, 2014 - 09:17pm PT
nah000,

Risk is an avenue of pleasure.
nah000

climber
canuckistan
Sep 16, 2014 - 09:25pm PT
^^^^^

hahaha. for sure...
ruppell

climber
Sep 16, 2014 - 09:30pm PT
Jim

I'd agree with that last post. There's way more hacks in all the residential trades then in the commercial trades. Besides bonds and higher insurance overhead not many residential guys could even come close to putting a bid together once the blueprints and spec sheets get over ten pages. Most of those that can do it end up in commercial.
pinckbrown

Trad climber
Lake Tahoe, CA
Sep 17, 2014 - 07:08am PT
Just to let you know - I am an owner/builder Jim, not a contractor. I also built everything myself except for rough plumbing (all cast iron drain) & rough electrical. Completely out of pocket. The inspecter says it is the best framing job he has ever seen. The assesors say they are going to run to my full basement during an earthquake because it is so overbuilt. It took me three years. Sq ft is 1115, plus the basement 500 sq ft
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Sep 17, 2014 - 08:35am PT
Credit: Gnome Ofthe Diabase
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Sep 17, 2014 - 08:44am PT
Credit: Gnome Ofthe Diabase
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Canada
Sep 17, 2014 - 10:18am PT
pinckbrown, it's obvious your house was built with a lot of care and attention. It is a very nice house, in that it already looks like a home.

Congratulations !
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Sep 19, 2014 - 05:58pm PT
I love seeing all the care and attention everyone brings to this thread. I'm always psyched to see it on the front page.

And now for something completely different... Don't ask me how it came to be (because I'm still not sure) but after 8 hours notice and 5 hours sleep I found myself outside Sports Authority Field at Mile High finishing the facades of 4 bars and two entry gates prior to the 2 PM opening of "Riotfest." The hillbilly/barnyard themed construction may have been my finest work.

And you may ask yourself, "how did I get here?"
And you may ask yourself, "how did I get here?"
Credit: Edge

And yes, our job included hanging the clothesline high above the crowd, which actually works quite well for finding the bars from afar. Not that it does me any good.

They don't make clothes pins like they used to.  I give it 24 hours be...
They don't make clothes pins like they used to. I give it 24 hours before the lines are bare.
Credit: Edge

Meh, it's a living.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Sep 19, 2014 - 06:38pm PT
From beautiful art for display or functional retaining walls.....I'm drooling !
NICE work. Very.Nice.Work.

Susan
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:13pm PT
I restored an old Viking reproduction sword and made a Viking scabbard based on the Cronk Moar archeological finds on the Isle of Man.

It was a project for a friend.

New grip, polished blade, polished hilt parts
New grip, polished blade, polished hilt parts
Credit: Sierra Ledge Rat
Cronk Moar riser pattern on the scabbard
Cronk Moar riser pattern on the scabbard
Credit: Sierra Ledge Rat
Annealing the buckle plates
Annealing the buckle plates
Credit: Sierra Ledge Rat
Almost done!
Almost done!
Credit: Sierra Ledge Rat
Credit: Sierra Ledge Rat
john hansen

climber
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:48pm PT
For Ruppel and Jim B.

I spent almost 40 years working my way up thru the construction world.

When I was 18 and framing, we walked the plates to do layout and ran the trusses. Rebar protection might be a coke can,,
every skil saw was pinned back. In 78 not many people used nail guns. We hand nailed everything.
Assholes and elbow's as they used to say.
2x4 scaffolding , check , chicken sticks over7/12.

Frame all week, climb and camp on the weekend.

Went thru every phase from running framing and forming crews to building houses to completion, dealing with owners and architects, to becoming a partner in a construction company and running many multi million dollar projects for them.

The last ten years I have been involved in all aspects of the company but I recently left by my own choice.

We, as management and supervisors were really committed to following all the rules. Safety meetings every week, gradeall certified, CPR/First aid classes every year, MSDS training, fall protection, rebar-caps, hardhats and when ever needed, cranes, scissor lifts, and boom pumps.

The problem is, try to get an old roofer to tie in on a 3/12 ,2000 sf roof.



Bushman

Social climber
Elk Grove, CA
Sep 19, 2014 - 09:53pm PT
Credit: Bushman
Test flew her last week
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Sep 19, 2014 - 10:41pm PT
3D work fellas. Dirty. Difficult. Dangerous. Today I lifted an 800 lb. glulam 10' into the air. Alone. It went fine. Two more to go; 900 lbs each and 14' high.
To me climbing and construction are both dangerous. To say otherwise is probably naive.
That said ,
Hi Ho Hi Ho
To work or climb I go.

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