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Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
May 17, 2013 - 04:51pm PT
Glyphosate (trade name RoundUp, etc), is the most widely applied agricultural chemical in the country. If you're fretting over if being applied near food crops...well, that ship sailed decades ago.

It's basically an enyzme synthesis inhibiter. It only works on actively growing plants, the uptake method is through the foliage (i.e. it won't work as a pre-emergent). And it does breakdown relatively quickly for an herbicide. EPA gives it one of the lower toxicity ratings.

Still, I wouldn't want it on my food.

Hey Chaz, you coughing yet?
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
May 18, 2013 - 10:51am PT
Elcap, you usually make sense. What happened?


If you're fretting over if being applied near food crops...well, that ship sailed decades ago.

And:
Still, I wouldn't want it on my food.

Farmers spray it ON food crops. You know that right? That's the whole point.


EPA gives it one of the lower toxicity ratings.

Given your apparent confidence in government work, which is possibly lower than my own, I'm not sure this means much.


The perpetual problem of humans monkeying with nature is that we are rarely able to know and understand the long-term implications of our actions. In the early part of this century almost no agricultural chemicals were thought to have negative effects, but naturally with use and time to see them we discovered that was very much not true.

Everything you do on a farm has consequences. Everything you put on or near the soil affects it. Sometimes it's perceivable, sometimes it's merely measurable, and sometimes you don't see the consequences for many years.

If you google glyphosate toxicity you can find studies that link the chemical to deliterious effects on living creatures (here's just one). But do you need a study to tell you that wiping out all plant life in a given area will not have some consequence? It matters to me that it is toxic to humans or toxic to mice, but far more important is that this practice ignores the delicate balance of systems farmers must work within to ensure long-term soil health and productivity.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 18, 2013 - 11:04am PT
It is going to be awesome!
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
May 18, 2013 - 11:08am PT
Need a wider lens...
Need a wider lens...
Credit: khanom
Spinach!
Spinach!
Credit: khanom
Potatoes! &#40;And garlic to the left&#41;
Potatoes! (And garlic to the left)
Credit: khanom
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
May 18, 2013 - 11:36am PT
No garden this year.

I'm really bummed, as this has been a hobby of mine for a few years now.

The irony of poverty is not being able to afford to get my garden going this year. If I could fund the startup, I'd be paying less for the veggies I love to eat.

Being really poor sucks.

eKat

Mountain climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
May 18, 2013 - 11:45am PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#303567

She's ready to plant. . .
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 18, 2013 - 11:52am PT
How long does that plastic last? We were thinking about doing some of those, but it seems like 2-5 years max before the plastic would deteriorate up in Tahoe. Currently harvesting used windows in the tahoe area...
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
May 18, 2013 - 02:07pm PT
Wes, if you are asking me, it's not plastic. Well, it's still a petroleum product. But it's a breathable lightweight row cover for keeping insects at bay and reducing heat. It comes in heavier weight versions that are excellent frost protection. It lasts long if you are careful -- it rips easily.

The brand we use is Agribon, available many places. We bought from Peaceful Valley Farm Supply in Grass Valley.

We do use greenhouse plastic on our cold frame, and it should last 3-4 seasons with care.
karodrinker

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
May 29, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 11, 2013 - 12:18am PT
I'm real happy with what I've got going this year.





No problems. No setbacks.

This is when it's fun. Production matches exactly what I can cook and eat. Sometime in the next couple weeks the work will start and I'll be firing up the canner.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jun 11, 2013 - 12:27am PT
She canned a case of Boysenberry jam weekend before last. Probably need to do at least two more batches and a batch or two of Raspberry

Thanks to climate cooling I'll have a bumper crop of tomatoes so the Salsa and sauce canning production will start in about two weeks.


The heat loving plants like the corn have been a dud this year. The Sweet potatoes are rather stunted, but the beans are finally starting to take off late from a state of arrested development.

I will have to transplant the Shallots this weekend.
when you grow them from seed you get clumps like Scallions and then you need to replant them and give e'm some room.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 14, 2013 - 04:40pm PT


If you can't quite reach something...



...you can always try to knock it over.



Happiness is a black wok.




( serving suggestion )

The Goat got hers, too. She gets rid of the ends, peels, seeds, etc. Unlike the Dogs, who know there's no future in begging, the Goat thinks she needs to be front-and-center for the whole process.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jun 14, 2013 - 04:55pm PT
This is what I found lying on a pile of topsoil in the garden yesterday.

It was dead when I found it.
It was dead when I found it.
Credit: Ghost

No mark of violence. And I have no idea why it was on top of the dirt pile, unless a crow moved it there, but hadn't started tearing it up yet.

Ugly-looking creature.

Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Jun 14, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
^^^^ I bet that thing could do quite a bit of garden damage !
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 14, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
Chaz, I like your setup. Nice big garden, avo trees, goats, what's not to like?

I'm a wee bit envious. Not too much, as I have my own sweet garden, but I like goats.

I wasn't going to plant this year, but crumpled at the last minute and got my babies in the ground. Good thing too, because we had snow over Memorial Day weekend. I put 'em in the ground the next weekend.

I'm growing my hot peppers in pots again this year, I had outstanding success last year. This year I've added habaneros into the mix. Pots are great for peppers, as you want a lot of sun to increase the capsaicin. Mobility is key if you live in an area with many trees and you can't find a site with all day sun.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 22, 2013 - 01:13am PT
So far, so good!





Organic pesticide at work:



Got enough cucs today to can five pints of sweet pickle relish.



Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Jun 22, 2013 - 09:04am PT
Great looking garden Chaz, those avocado trees are amazing!
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Jun 25, 2013 - 10:26am PT
We got 1/2" of rain and it's still coming. This is the best thing evar!

Reminds me that I should be taking some photos.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jul 2, 2013 - 08:43pm PT
Rain? Hasn't rained here in months, and if it rains here before Thanksgiving, it'll be big news.

A few hours ago:









Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jul 2, 2013 - 08:45pm PT
I never thought I'd say this, but damn, I wish it would stop raining!

We've had over ten inches of rain in the last couple of weeks. My babies are well watered, but we need some sunshine!!!

Luckily, my peppers are in pots, so I've been controlling their watering very carefully.
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