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Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
May 24, 2012 - 08:42pm PT
I agree about lack of musicianship having made punk. I also had the pleasure of seeing some of my faves live, 20 years after they were current during the inevitable "the kids need braces" tour.

They'd practiced their instruments in the meantime! It was great to hear the songs played properly albeit with less urgency about the state of things...
Norwegian

Trad climber
Placerville, California
May 24, 2012 - 08:42pm PT
my hands are locusts,
my penis is a cotton field.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
May 24, 2012 - 08:47pm PT
Thank you, for going out on a limb and backing me up on that, JB

I see it as performance art (?), not really music.



To each his own

one punk's meat is another man's poison


Or something like that
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
May 24, 2012 - 09:22pm PT
Weegie, dude

you need some penisticide
for your pinnacle

or some manacles
for yor fanatakills


Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
May 24, 2012 - 09:31pm PT
Or appealing Mandibles.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
May 24, 2012 - 09:38pm PT
It was never about musicianship. It was about being pissed at apathy, the status quo and hair bands....
tornado

climber
lawrence kansas
May 24, 2012 - 09:45pm PT
Hey Warbler I got one letter (not word) for you and it's a band that was produced by a key member of one of the groups on your list of "good music"

X.

Los Angeles was produced by Ray Manzarek of the Doors and is a seminal punk album.


The Drummer DJ Bonebrake is quite an accomplished and talented drummer/percussionist here is his side project orchestra superstring.





StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
May 24, 2012 - 09:53pm PT
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
May 24, 2012 - 10:12pm PT
Tornado,

At least they've got some legit vocal harmonizing going on, I'll give 'em that, but the original version's got way more soul in the kitchen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJFZeG3GixU





tornado

climber
lawrence kansas
May 24, 2012 - 10:15pm PT
Or how bout's Bad Brains second LP "Rock For Light" that was produced by Ric Ocasek from the Cars? These guys could play. Hardcore Punk, Reggae, Funk you name it. Super influential too


Abenda

climber
May 25, 2012 - 12:42am PT
Credit: Abenda
I just found this photo the other day.

In july I'm going to see Ray Davies on my 60th b-day. The Kinks were good @ punk rock too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bylvUvbP14&feature=related

roywonder
QITNL

climber
May 25, 2012 - 01:10am PT
BITD we had this game, it was called "This is MY Idea of Punk."

It went like this. Somebody would say something, and someone would respond:

But, that's not punk, this is my idea of punk:

(insert random blather blather here....)

Everyone had a different answer.

Now that I'm older, I'm really glad my watch tells me what year it is, otherwise I'd never believe we're still playing the same old game. Weird.
MMCC

climber
New Zealand
May 25, 2012 - 01:52am PT
Art isn't just about virtuosity though, is it?

If your envelope is big enough, you can appreciate both Duchamp and Monet, just for different reasons.

Or drunken dyno contests and 1000 metre hard slab routes.

Or William Burroughs and Tolstoy.

Or Joni Mitchell and Skinny Puppy.

Personally, I vote for Toy Love, one of NZ's finest.
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
May 25, 2012 - 03:42am PT
That's a great perspective on it, QITNL. I remember reading "Kiss or Kill" and Twight gives his take on what the punk ethic was. Like mentioned before, I always thought it was about undirected rage channeled through immediate gratification noise. It had nothing to do with being any good at being musicians, so it was anti-competency in that respect. In fact, the Sex Pistols had to unlearn how to play in order to recapture their raw sound when they toured the final time in the 90s. And there's Twight saying punk was railing against mediocrity. Huh, I thought?

One thing I knew when I was a teenager was that punk was full of sh#t. That was the big joke that I just never got tired of. Ha ha ha.
QITNL

climber
May 25, 2012 - 04:39am PT
Punk broke down a lot of barriers; I'll give it that credit. Such as: who was on stage and who was in the audience. If you got too competent, it was time to switch instruments. If it weren't for punk, reggae would never have reached the charts, there would be no hip-hop, no rap.

Punk only lasted five years or so, it was just a fad - perhaps merely due to an under-served market, a birthrate dip between the boomers and their children. But it also was an adventure, a challenge. Like it or not, it changed a lot of stuff. We still live in the shadow of its demise.

One of the cool things about art: those who make it don't really give a fuuck; those who don't, they care a lot. So its meaning often has less to do with the intentions of its authors, but what the audience reads into it.

There are plenty of parallels in climbing and the Internet.
LilaBiene

Trad climber
May 25, 2012 - 05:23am PT
Joey Ramone left this world while listening to U2. U2 was hugely influenced by the Ramones.

To some extent, all bands are influenced by those who came before, life experience and signs of the times.

But every once in a while, some incredible musicians hook up with someone who lends a voice and something to say.

These are the bands that stand the test of time. Funny, my iPod just hit "Radio Clash". On that note...
LilaBiene

Trad climber
May 25, 2012 - 05:26am PT
Ha! The Clash followed by The Cars "Moving in Stereo"...what are the chances?!
QITNL

climber
May 25, 2012 - 05:36am PT
>Joey Ramone left this world while listening to U2.

That's depressing. I never knew.

I hope his family were able to sue U2.
Chango

Trad climber
norcal
May 25, 2012 - 06:32am PT
I was with a group of friends once...ages ranging from 22 to 40. We were talking about bands of different genre. I brought up Social Distortion and everyone one of them said, "That band rocks!" Of all the great bands I have seen in my life, I would put Social Distortion as the best. Fishbone comes in a close second. "Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't", Mike Ness
lynnzos

Trad climber
the road
Jun 30, 2012 - 08:08pm PT
I wish more of my climbing partners had punk rock roots, as I have. My humor can be offputting and vulgar. I listen to loud, fast, sloppy music (though it's become more eclectic in the more recent years.) I see it merely as one of my feminine charms.

Screeching weasel, the queers and the nobodys are playing in Denver on July 15th. If you know these bands, you know how ridiculous a line up this is. Unfortunately, I'll be on the road. However, all of these bands still play a rad show. I pitted to "My Right" at the last Weasel show i went to, and I've seen the Queers 20+ times, they play the same set every damn time, and it never gets old.
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