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ccendre
Mountain climber
vancouver, bc, canada
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Oct 25, 2010 - 04:05pm PT
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excuse me, but there is still some Alien can available around the word. I would like to buy this awesome cam. I try to contact the compagny (Colorado Custom Hardware Inc.) by email but she told me (please contact us in couple weeks. CCH is for sale now), and now it's been 1 month, so if someone can answer me to say yes or no or wait that would be nice. Thanks everyone
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Dalyte
Trad climber
Nevada
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Oct 25, 2010 - 05:42pm PT
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eBay would be the only better place to find it. Mark Miller sold couple sets last week after posted on taco in less than an hour. On eBay you might find some new but prepare to pay big $$$, used one goes for about $60 and up. Nobody makes CCH anymore and question if they will in a future. The closest cams to Aliens are Metolius Mastercams. Check Chris gear reviews.
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JP.Franklin
Trad climber
Santiago-CHILE
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Sadly I have parts and pieces for over 150 aliens. We were contracted for assembling some time before Mr. Waggoner passed away.
Donīt know what to do with this stuff....
Frank.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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JP easy answer
MAKE THEM!
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Fishy
climber
Zurich, Switzerland
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Concerning spare parts - I have a red alien that is missing the screw at one end of the axel (the cams can now fall off). Any chance I could buy a few parts JP?
Pete.
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Holdplease2
Big Wall climber
Yosemite area
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JP:
I have a half dozen aliens with broken springs, bent axels, completely worn lobes, and I'm not the only one. You could probably set up a nice little repair business for a while, I know I would pay nicely to have these things working again.
Additionally, there are folks like Ryan at Nomad Ventures in Joshua Tree and Bernie (Dr. Cam) who runs some repairs through the Mountain Shop who might be happy to place a parts order with you, as it would give them a nice, unique service to offer.
-Kate.
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adatesman
Trad climber
philadelphia, pa
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Sadly I have parts and pieces for over 150 aliens. We were contracted for assembling some time before Mr. Waggoner passed away.
Donīt know what to do with this stuff....
Frank.
Well, if you were subcontracted to do the assembly then those materials still belong to CCH and should be returned to them. If they don't want them I suppose you're free to do with them as you please, but in theory they'd still be in CCH's financials as either WIP (work in progress) or inventory.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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That's 15k on ebay for mint units. I'd build them up and sell them. Screw repairs. They're disposable. What financials - is CCH even a company anymore?
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adatesman
Trad climber
philadelphia, pa
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If Nadia's still trying to sell the company, then yes, it is still a going concern with claim to its assets.
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Gene
Social climber
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Can't (or shouldn't) sell what you don't own. Of course, we know nothing of the details.
g
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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So a claim is made and this guy sends them a check for a few hundred for the missing parts. Reality is that the parts will never be claimed.
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adatesman
climber
philadelphia, pa
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Sends them a check for a few hundred to cover lost parts and then turns around and sells the assembled parts for the 15k mentioned above? Sounds like theft to me, but whatever.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Who knows who owns the parts? Anyone read the contract? Maybe CCH owes the parts guy $.
In any case, seems like Aliens are no more.
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Holdplease2
Big Wall climber
Yosemite area
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Please note when I made the suggestion above, I didn't realize he wasn't working with CCH, and possibly does not actually "own" or have rights to the parts.
-Kate.
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JP.Franklin
Trad climber
Santiago-CHILE
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Honestly I didnīt expect so many replies for but I want to clarify some facts:
Iīam not intending to negotiate with this bunch of parts, but it looks like a waste to be watching them here around my house everyday. Mostly when about one year ago I propose to continue assembling to Nadia and she didnīt want the carry on the operation (technically reasons I think...)
Most of the sizes I assembled (brazing including) were Reds, Grays and Yellows. No unit brazed/ assembled here in Chile ever fail. They were carefully put together and individually tested in a digital jig. You can note my work with a "P" stamped on the head of units I made.
I still can service Alien units sold in Chile, but the distance from States to Chile would make it far from being a Cost Effective operation.
Last bunch of Aliens were assembled and shipped out to US in last February, in this case the stainless nuts were machined here locally and it ended better than the CCH factory made used on previous stuff.
I assembled about 9000+ units and I get to admit my stuff was of better functioning, better finished and safer than the cams previously made in the States.
We started the assembling operation on November 2006 after the famous Recall, when Mr. Waggoner landed here in Santiago with small machinery, measuring tools and a soul full of knowledgement to share with somebody interested on helping out.
Well, this is a small story to tell about Aliens, but I feel proud to have been be part of it and have known somebody like David Waggoner.
JP. Mountaineer, climber, Mechanical Designer and former CCH assembler.
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dhayan
climber
los angeles, ca
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Jan 10, 2011 - 12:46am PT
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bump?
what's going on with cch?
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Javibar
Sport climber
Burgos, Spain
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I would like to know where i can buy one of this aliens cams in NY
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Maybe JP.Franklin could work something out where he picks up the business and builds cams in Chile?
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The Dodo
Trad climber
Boston
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For the love of god man just put those aliens together and sell them on the internet. I know dirtbags are cheap but i know plenty of people who would be happy to pay 100$ for an alien. and you are obviously the most experienced person left to assemble those units.
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