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feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Mar 20, 2017 - 06:01pm PT
LOL, Donini
So . . .
Do you mean some LSD might cause them to convert?
ff
skitch

Gym climber
Bend Or
Mar 20, 2017 - 06:07pm PT
I've wanted to try mushrooms for a while now, but I don't even know how to source them. I've seen kits online where you can buy the growing media, and order the spores in a syringe from somewhere else, but I'm worried about legal issues.

I've always felt like an outsider to this world with no feelings of being connected to humanity, but I've read that a lot of people get a strong, lasting feeling of being part of this world when they trip on shrooms. I am skeptical that my brain could ever have the "switch flipped" so that I feel more connected to other humans, but I'd like to give it a go. I spend a lot of time watching how people interact with each other and try to figure out what makes people friends with each other, but when I try to duplicate those type of interactions I come across as fake and needy. When I act like myself around people I just offend them. Maybe the problem is that I don't view myself in the same way that others view me.

Do any of you know of anyone that radically changed (positively or otherwise) from a trip?
feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Mar 20, 2017 - 06:16pm PT
Maybe you just need to take a class in social graces? Just a thought.

Or you could do some research. There are excellent sources of information in many publications on harvesting, identifying, and storing mushrooms of all types.

Best Wishes with your wishes.
ff

Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Mar 20, 2017 - 06:25pm PT
The first time that a square is told what it's really all about.

"How do you feel inside?"

"Inside? I don't have any inside."

"Is it all one?"

"It would be all one if...if you weren't here.. and if...if nobody else... Yes everything is one, you have nothing to do with it. I am one with what I am."

Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Mar 20, 2017 - 08:22pm PT
Down with Fuzz!
Down with Fuzz!
Credit: Russ Walling
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Mar 20, 2017 - 09:09pm PT
Do any of you know of anyone that radically changed (positively or otherwise) from a trip?

skitch, am not writing from personal experience, but some of this is interesting:
https://www.google.com/search?q=LSD+microdosing
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 20, 2017 - 09:17pm PT
I did acid four or five times in the 70's, nothing since. Kind of fun, no bad trips but it sure killed the day for anything else.
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Mar 21, 2017 - 08:37am PT
Credit: Russ Walling
BJ

climber
Mar 21, 2017 - 08:41am PT
Jack Webb's checking out that hippy's ass while Colonel Potter hand cuffs him for some kinky sh#t in the back of the paddy wagon.

Down with Fuzz!
Down with Fuzz!
Credit: Russ Walling
locker

climber
Mar 21, 2017 - 08:45am PT


USELESS DISCLAIMER:

DO NOT OPEN YOUTUBE LINK IF EASLIY OFFENDED BY FOUL LANGUAGE!!!...

...

MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Mar 21, 2017 - 08:50am PT
Sure, lots. I lived in a house in Madison with 4 other people in the early 70s, and we’d have parties where we’d drop 2 or three times during the night. A friend of mine and I would do meditation (sitting), and other times a bottle or two of champagne.

I liked LSD because it was unpredictable, and I was into the challenge of learning how to jump into an abyss. The ramp up to the peak was what I looked forward to: the only way to deal with any apprehension was to let go, IMO. Once peaked, the experience became normal to me. I was an experience junkie, and I think that’s what also attracted me to so many oddities in my life (combat, later living and working on the wrong side of the tracks with low-lifes and people of the night, climbing, changing careers many times, and finally the initial exploration into spirituality).

I met friends in Seattle who know how to spot the magic mushrooms growing wild in the Northwest. They are lots all over the place. They’re into micro dosing, and I’ve learned that some mainline professionals (mathematicians, scientists, professionals) have claimed that micro-dosing is useful to unleash creativity in their work. I was asked to try it, and did about 2 years ago. I guess it was interesting, sort of like walking to an edge of a big cliff. I felt an expansiveness, but I didn’t feel high. Expansiveness is available to me at any time that I want it these days, so I don’t have needs in that respect.

With respect to all here, I think people (and well beyond simply climbers) are rather addicted to experiences. After a while, one starts to look at experience *as* experience. (But that probably belongs in another thread.)
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Mar 21, 2017 - 09:33am PT
hahaha! Lockers vid is like Camp 4 in the 80's!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 21, 2017 - 10:28am PT
Nice post Base.
Psilocyborg

climber
Mar 21, 2017 - 12:34pm PT
Some misinformation in this thread. There was and still is plenty of LSD more pure than Sandoz. Techniques and technology have made this a reality.

LSD impurities are not active in amounts that can fit on blotter. However there is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest there is something else at work.

Sometime in the mid-2000's at an LSD symposium, someone brought an unopened vial of Sandoz LSD. It was ingested and participants said it was indistinguishable from normal street LSD.

I personally had many many LSD trips. I have shared some stories here in the past and I haven't had a full experience since 1999. I still think about what I experienced with LSD almost daily.

The way LSD interacts with the brain, there could be lots of factors involved with individual brain chemistry on any given day to produce different effects.

Mike.

climber
Mar 21, 2017 - 01:19pm PT
skitch:

I do not believe that mushrooms are a substitute for L. The results are less predictable and nausea may be part of the experience.

RE your specific question: I do not know of anyone whose personality was apparently changed by a hallucinogenic trip. The common negative result I've witnessed is a person not having a great time on it, then deciding it's not for them.

I'm not encouraging you to take any drug. You'll need to digest more information about how it might affect you before you make the call.

I think of L like big wall climbing. For some, it's too much of a good thing, too far out of the comfort zone. It's heavy hit that most are okay with never experiencing.

Best wishes...
locker

climber
Mar 21, 2017 - 01:30pm PT


One thing you need to avoid when "Tripping"...

MIRRORS!!!...



and if you happen to be tripping hard and get into a box of Triscuts...

DON'T for a second even think about a roach, or there's a good chance you'll be imagining yourself crunching on their legs and laughing while saying to yourself...

"These fuking things are like roach legs!!!"... (For the next 7-8 hours)...

LOL!!!...

Not that I would know, of course...

Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Mar 21, 2017 - 03:11pm PT
I believe Ricky here has done plenty of LSD
I believe Ricky here has done plenty of LSD
Credit: Blitzo
Mad69Dog

Ice climber
Mar 21, 2017 - 06:00pm PT
"Not that I would know, of course..."

Another post that makes this one of my fave Taco threads.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 21, 2017 - 08:28pm PT
It was certainly not the first winter ascent of 10,891 Ft. Boulder Peak, just north of Ketchum, Idaho. However, it may have been the first high on LSD, night-time winter ascent?

Stein Sitzmark & I discussed our memories of our March 1972 climb this week (2012). We agree that we left Ketchum after the bars closed at 1:00 A.M. and we arrived on the summit at sun-rise.


So----we closed out Whiskey-Jaques in Ketchum at 1:00 A.M. then drove about 12 miles north to a plowed parking spot at the mouth of Boulder Creek at around 6,600 ft. I recall that we ate LSD as we left our car & were putting on our skis, with the 1970 state of the art Silvretta Alpine Touring bindings, which were a long way removed from today’s AT bindings.

Yes! We were “very-high” even before we reached altitude, but it was a great ski-in on firm snow on a Full-Moon night in mid-March.
Stein brought along the “awesome” R T, who had been weaned on Cascade mountaineering. It is likely she could have thrown us each over a shoulder and made the summit while carrying our skinny-hippie selves.

It had been a low-snow winter, and March was warm. The snow was firm, and Stein & I wore crampons for much of the climb. My photo reveals R T did not have crampons, and with her experience: it is likely she did not need them for this route.
RT on the left & Stein at right.
RT on the left & Stein at right.
Credit: Fritz


We were on the summit for sun-rise, and got down without incident. I do remember being very impressed by Stein skating with Alpine skis on the firm snow back to our vehicle. I next saw skiers skating in 1982.

We were back in Ketchum, mid-morning, but my reward for the “big-night” was a nose-cold as punishment for having too-much fun.

Ah! The excesses of youth well-spent.

Boulder Peak from the approach on a later winter trip.
Boulder Peak from the approach on a later winter trip.
Credit: Fritz

Stein & his 1972 skis on another trip.
Stein & his 1972 skis on another trip.
Credit: Fritz


drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 21, 2017 - 08:37pm PT
Skitch-
If your post was sincere, man...it seems like you're ripe for some personal development!
Awesome!
Have you traveled by yourself? To a foreign country?
It has a way of forcing you outside of yourself, which can be a very good thing.
Well, I think psychedelics have a way of forcing you inside yourself...confronting shˇt and examining inner wiring that maybe you couldn't access before.
It can be scary but also an amazing catalyst for change.
I highly recommend it!
Have a great trip.
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