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Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Mar 5, 2010 - 01:31pm PT
TGT... You must have been at the recent T-shirt shoot!
Fluoride

Trad climber
Hollywood, CA
Mar 5, 2010 - 01:33pm PT
C'mon TGT, if you've met L you know she's far hotter than either of those rough chicks.

And whipsmart enough to let her words do her takedowns for her. :)
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Mar 5, 2010 - 01:37pm PT
I would probably not erase Lois from my Supertopo experience. But I FULLY support the Greasemonkey project, and am ALSO willing to kick in to the one who writes the script. One disclaimer(though I will support the project, nonetheless): The script should allow us to hide ANY other user we feel the desire to, and not be targeted at one specifically.

Lois doesn't care, but her behavior here absolutely does impinge on the experience of others here on the site. The innapropriate image post to the Yabo t-shirt thread really did show me that. On most other forums, one has the ability to hide another - it HELPS to keep the forum a saner place. Sure, one can "not click on" certain threads created by a user, but when it is a topic you HAVE interest in, in a thread that seems innocuous enough, it is pretty pathetic to have to wade through the seemingly intentional topic-redirect posts and the upset such posts cause.

While I would not erase the Leb, I am confident many others absolutely would. And many who get "upset" at her behavior would then NOT be posting about their upset, which would cause threads - even those WITH redirect-topic posts - to run smoother and stay closer to topic.

The one thing that would still be an issue, though, would be the "upset ones" who can't restrain themselves from interacting negatively to/with Lois' posts and refuse to hide them. They will still be crap up the works. Of course, I believe a bit of pressure from others to "hide or STFU" would solve most of that problem.


I am in for $50 for an "any user" script, and $10 for a "single, particular user" script.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Mar 5, 2010 - 01:57pm PT
Pate - I don't think you are the only one who would refuse to hide/continue to act out, that's what you are suggesting. It's a common part of the internet discussion forum dynamic.

But with the reduced noise to signal ratio that a "hide user" enables, it quickly becomes apparent where the problems still lie. Most likely, people would also add those who continue to bash Lois to the "hide user" as well.

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 5, 2010 - 01:57pm PT
Not entirely true, Pate.

I proudly believe Lois would put me at the top of her "most nasty' list.

I base this upon her following comments:



"I am out of here, guys, for a while. The "nasties" like Bob and Norton are getting on my nerves. Why hang out with such negative energy? It comes through even through the internet. I'll come back some other time when the pit vipers are not quite so prevalent and the nicer people can hold constructive discussion. Such bile an poison some of you spew forth. I don't like to hang around in places where such blackness prevails."


I don't want to participate any more this evening the way the "nasties" are spewing bile. This forum is getting very ugly, of late, and it is beginning to exceed my tolerance of negativity and vileness. The problem with negativity and hate is that it generates so much negative energy that it can overpower anything else.

I came back to once again hang out with so many really great people here who I truly like - and from whom I learn so much. The nasty people here who spew forth hate are really making me question whether it is worth it. I love some of you guys but I just cannot immerse myself in this kind of negativity. It is like a poison. "


Lois has had a long and brilliant career on this very special forum
that allows anyone with no interest in climbing to post, and an open
policy of never banning anyone unless extremely vulgar.

Therefore, her trolling needs are met, she gets what she wants here, attention. Any kind will do.
Jim E

climber
away
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:02pm PT
L, I'm half tempted to give you beers for life just for that post.
L

climber
Hangin' by a thread and lookin' for my wings
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:10pm PT

Yes, I can see you have a husband, Lois. (And what a 1950's Stepford Wives' thing to say, btw...but it's to be expected, I suppose.)

And from this photo of yours, I can't quite tell who looks more stuffed--you or your "husband". (Certainly not the bear. He's obviously already been talked to death and is happily in the Great Bear Beyond...)














Meeeeeeooooooowwwwwww HowWeirdLEB-Baby...meeeeeeeeeeeeoooooowwwww! ;-)



Bob D'A

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:11pm PT
Why does everyone continue to talk about LEB like it a woman or a real person?

It (LEB) is a known troll/trolls.


Lois...your old man not much to look at but then again look who is married too...LOL
Jim E

climber
away
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:17pm PT
It would relieve huge burdens of guilt wherein I ruin people's entire day if not their whole online lives.

You give yourself far too much credit. You ruin the day no more than a fly in the soup. However, I would prefer my soup without flies.
Roman

Trad climber
Bostonia
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:18pm PT
An 'ignore user' button is soooo piss ez to implement. Its kind of a shame it's not already done.

LEB start posting your OT drivel on the beloved gear review threads. I dare you.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:19pm PT
L:
Although this would probably get you beers for life from BVB and three dozen or more other Topians...;-)

Umm, yeah, I'd buy a few. There's not much satisfaction in my own policy of refusing to be one of her enablers, because she's got enough others. Even Lois wouldn't have reached 16,000 posts if it brought her no attention.
dktem

Trad climber
Temecula
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:34pm PT
How many times has she stomped out of the room in a huff like that?

Another question (perhaps it's come up before):

Has anyone named any climbs after LEB yet?

Perhaps there's yet some untouched formation off the beaten-path in JTree that could be named the LEB wall. Coming up with names for the lines could be fun...
apogee

climber
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:36pm PT
Lois is an, ahem, unique part of the ST Forums, no doubt, and she evokes as polarizing a reaction as someone like Palin. I, too, find an excess of OT threads annoying and disrespectful to other users, and Lois can be a significant source of them.

However, I am more uncomfortable about the prospect of excluding or silencing anyone in this group, unless they create clear threats or harm to others. That just strikes me as a little too much 'big brother', even if it is as simple as a 'ignore user' function. If someone writes a script that is outside of ST, well, I guess that's your choice to use it or not.

Ultimately, though, the decision to create an 'ignore user' function is CMac's, and he obviously has a rationale for having not created it- since he has created this website and Forum that I gratefully participate in, I leave it to his judgement as to what he wants to do with it.

There is one reason why Lois's OT threads, or anyone else's OT threads, grow and repeat themselves: because people respond to them. Attention-seeking behavior is easily altered by not giving those people what they seek: attention. It really is that simple.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:36pm PT
Well, as I said previously, you do truly outdo yourself in cattiness

Cattiness? Maybe Tom-cattiness is more appropriate, given that L has finally posted a true picture of her/himself.


And on that subject, those of you who haven't done so already should check out her/his recent Queen of the Desert thread at http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1107525/EDZILLA_Queen_of_the_High_Desert_OW_OW_not_OT

And then compare what you thought of that single post to all 16,000 of LEB's.

Which, I guess, is my way of saying that if a few beers or a few bucks will help, I'm in.

Not trying to kick anyone out, but it sure would be nice to be able to block some posters from sight.

kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2010 - 02:37pm PT
Iīm not much of a coder, or I would have already written the Greasemonkey script, but it should/could be easy enough to customize so that it hides any specific ST posterīs post.

Just save another copy of the script and customize it for whatever userīs identity you choose.

LEB could hide the Bobs, Rokjox could hide locker, etc.,etc. Itīd be kind of like THE MODERATOR, that you can customize yourself.

now you can sit around the virtual campfire, right next to the person who annoys you the most, and you canīt hear a word they are saying. you donīt even know if they are talking, though you can hear other peopleīs responses....if you DO want to see their posts, open Greasemonkey, deactivate the script, and reload the browser. the unwanted posts reappear...

The script could be kept online on one of the public Greasemonkey script sites. Or even just pasted into the thread here.

Seems like we are up to $100 +

Iīm not particular about where the money goes. Totally depends on someone stepping up to write the script at this point. I, weīd paypal the coder and they can keep the money, send it to Jim Bridwell or whatever they decide. I think giving this to Jim would be a positive climbing contribution. Thanks LEB :-P
Fluoride

Trad climber
Hollywood, CA
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:40pm PT
"Now, I personally, am all in favor of the "block LEB" program. It would relieve huge burdens of guilt wherein I ruin people's entire day if not their whole online lives."

It has given us permission for this project so go for it.

nar·cis·sism  (via dictionary.com)

1.inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; vanity.
2.Psychoanalysis. erotic gratification derived from admiration of one's own physical or mental attributes, being a normal condition at the infantile level of personality development

Just sayin'. Someone who feels empowered by the ability to ruin people's day if not "their whole online lives"....


Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:50pm PT
Friday, 24 June 2005.

1715 days ago and the start of 16065 posts. 9.4 per day.

That's knott counting the hundreds (if knott thousands) under its alter-ego howweirddean...
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:51pm PT
Pate states: "I do have to claim the rights to the only person she has ever apologized to and admitted wrongdoing."



Again, I beg to differ: consider her "apology" to me when I pointed
out her changing her mind frequently and outright lying, as in "I lied" see below)





LEB
Well Norton the simple answer is I am a female and like all women, I reserve the right to change my mind for no apparent reason. The short and sweet answer is that "I changed my mind."


LEB
You've been taken, Norton. Never believe a woman again. "I lied". It is sort of like when men say " I won't .......... mouth" You know it is all bullsh#t. Of course, they will. We know that going into the deal. The long and short of it is that you believed me and you got taken to the cleaners. That'll "learn" you."
habitat

climber
grass pass
Mar 5, 2010 - 02:56pm PT
Censorship? What a boring idea.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2010 - 02:59pm PT
> Censorship? What a boring idea.

i call it reclaiming MY browser....

Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Mar 5, 2010 - 03:03pm PT
Since I consider the troll to be a minor, easy-to-skip-over annoyance,

I got 5 on it.
L

climber
Hangin' by a thread and lookin' for my wings
Mar 5, 2010 - 03:04pm PT
Excellent point, Beth, and the one thing about HowWeirdLEB that disappoints me the most: Her textbook narcissism.

I've waded through her posts in the past (Navy Purple Cross awarded, thank you very much), searching for some redeeming tidbit...something of worth to a Climber's Forum like ST.

Nada.

Zilch.

Dry well.


Even her questionable medical advice is bracketed by self-agrandizement and "Me-me-me-itius".

The HowWeirdDean hoax was the last straw. Enabling a narcissist of such monumental proportions was no longer something I could stomach.

Sigh...;-)
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 5, 2010 - 03:05pm PT
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 5, 2010 - 03:10pm PT
"Jesus wept"
bvb



Lois:
Feb 14, 2010 - 03:12pm PT
PS

I am out of here, guys, for a while. The "nasties" like Bob and Norton are getting on my nerves. Why hang out with such negative energy? It comes through even through the internet. I'll come back some other time when the pit vipers are not quite so prevalent and the nicer people can hold constructive discussion. Such bile an poison some of you spew forth. I don't like to hang around in places where such blackness prevails.

BTW, Norton, since you are ever so critical of me and my presence here on the forum - esp that I do not climb - I took a look at your overall postings. You virtually NEVER post to any climbing threads. You post volumes and volumes to the non-climbing threads yet you question my presence here.

Anyway, I will come back a different day. You guys can have the forum all to yourself for the rest of the night. I don't like hanging around this kind of ugliness.

Thanks John Moosie and apogee and others for sharing your information. Much appreciated. I would love to hang out with you all and chat more with you guys tonight but as I said the negativity and bile here is getting on my nerves. I don't want to participate any more this evening the way the "nasties" are spewing bile. This forum is getting very ugly, of late, and it is beginning to exceed my tolerance of negativity and vileness. The problem with negativity and hate is that it generates so much negative energy that it can overpower anything else.

I came back to once again hang out with so many really great people here who I truly like - and from whom I learn so much. The nasty people here who spew forth hate are really making me question whether it is worth it. I love some of you guys but I just cannot immerse myself in this kind of negativity. It is like a poison.

PS - thanks Jstan. I will take a look at your post closely. Saw it when I was about to close the browser. Jstan, you and so many others are among the people I love to chat with and I learn so much from you and others. I just can't stand the pit vipers here who spew forth so much hate. I hope you understand? I love people like you, apogeee, moosie and so many others here. But you have some companions here who spew forth so much bile that it really is not worth it to hang round and try to interact with the great guys. They just make it too ugly and life is short, anyway.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 5, 2010 - 03:11pm PT
Norton..I 'll say my same response as when she posted it on the other tread...she'll be back in a day or two...she is sick.
apogee

climber
Mar 5, 2010 - 03:16pm PT
"Oh come on, why this fixation with LEB, love her, hate her, it should be easy enough to ignore her if you want to."

fattrad nails it.

Don't like it? Don't respond to it.

Saying that Lois somehow makes your day less enjoyable is weak sauce. Take responsibility for your own actions and reactions: don't respond to her.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Mar 5, 2010 - 03:18pm PT
Censorship? What a boring idea.

We already ban things like hardcore porn.

The problem with this solution of clearing her posts is that it doesn't really solve the problem. Yes, you wont see her posts, but you will still have to wade through all the posts of people who respond to her.

It boggles my mind how much she can dominate this forum. This is me speaking as a guilty party.



I love L.. She is my hero..
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Mar 5, 2010 - 03:19pm PT
"Oh come on, why this fixation with LEB, love her, hate her, it should be easy enough to ignore her if you want to."

fattrad nails it.

Don't like it? Don't respond to it.

Nope.. see my above post for why.. Do you just ignore all the off topic threads?
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 5, 2010 - 03:20pm PT
I don't want her banned just exposed...I would bet a $100 her IPA is from California and not PA.

Pate...no problem...I actually enjoyed our little tiff.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2010 - 03:23pm PT
fattrad wrote: Oh come on, why this fixation with LEB, love her, hate her, it should be easy enough to ignore her if you want to.

fatty, i donīt know how your brain works, but when i look at a page i pretty instantly see chunks of info and read that way. iīm so used to skimming the web, that i canīt very easily NOT see.

i generally donīt bother reading LEBs posts. but she posts even to climbing topics, and all she does is try to bait people - very dysfunctional behaviour. i do tech work for a living and the solution for me is to automate whatever i can. i shouldnīt have to waste my time reading (or seeing) a bunch of crap just because some obsessive person decides they are going to post incessantly to a site about a topic they have no clue about. i prefer their posts to vanish before my web browser can display them.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 5, 2010 - 03:24pm PT
Be still my slamming heart:




Bob D'A

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 5, 2010 - 03:36pm PT
Dingus wrote: Bob, some people? You just kaint reach!

DMT


:)LOL
Nate Ricklin

climber
San Diego
Mar 5, 2010 - 04:10pm PT
Giving the people what they want:

Greasemonkey script:

edited: see below for updated script
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 5, 2010 - 04:34pm PT
Those promises were made long, long ago.,


LEB
Dec 8, 2007 - 06:51pm PT
"Now, Karl, My Love, you are getting your cute little head all upset. I told you I would lay back. I will not enter any thread without an invitation (except, of course to defend Jody), or unless I start it."



LEB
"Ahem - For the record, I am formally granting your point and I promise that I will NOT Loisify yours or anyone else's threads ever again. OK? Now can you sleep better at night knowing that? Can we now kiss and makeup so that if I do find another forum to torment, I will not be ridden with guilt that I have ruined your online life forever. Think of it this way Karl. Think of your time me as a stint in purgatory."

kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2010 - 04:35pm PT
Wow - that was fast, Nate! Thanks!!!

what version of Firefox are you using? i'm running 3.6 and i still see LEB and what she wrote. will try an earlier version of FF in a few minutes on a different workstation.

so your script removes all LEB posts from a thread? Awesome :-)
Nate Ricklin

climber
San Diego
Mar 5, 2010 - 04:39pm PT
Let's see, I have firefox 3.5.8 and it works for me, removes table rows of which LEB is the author.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Mar 5, 2010 - 04:43pm PT
How do you install it?

Edit: Never mind - I'm RTFM-ing right now...
Nate Ricklin

climber
San Diego
Mar 5, 2010 - 04:49pm PT
ok it's not working for me on a nearby windows machine. I'm on it.

edit: I see, it's only working on www.supertopo.com not supertopo.com. fixing it now.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 5, 2010 - 04:49pm PT
ok, I just installed it and went to supertopo

How do I, for dummies, remove LEB's posts from view?

Oh god, this would so cool!
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Mar 5, 2010 - 04:51pm PT
Giving the people what they want:

Greasemonkey script:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5p07kb


It works!!!!!!!!!!1111

Running on Firefox 3.5.2

Nate - shoot me an email so I can Paypal the $5.00
dktem

Trad climber
Temecula
Mar 5, 2010 - 04:56pm PT
It appears that Greasemonkey in general does not work with FF 3.6
Nate Ricklin

climber
San Diego
Mar 5, 2010 - 05:09pm PT
now it works with or without the www in the URL.


http://www.sendspace.com/file/v16863

edited: newer version:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/64jwyn

How to:
go here and get greasemonkey:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748

then click above and install the script. that should be it.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Mar 5, 2010 - 05:13pm PT
Here's how I educated my clueless self:

http://userscripts.org/about/installing

Double-clicking the .js file didn't work; to get it to install I had to go to File > Open File and then navigate to the script...

So it seems that you could just add users to that same script, or would you need separate scripts for each pest?
L

climber
Hangin' by a thread and lookin' for my wings
Mar 5, 2010 - 05:15pm PT
OK...for us computer-challenged blondes...step by step installation or where to go for it.

And PayPal--I'm there baby!
John_Box

Ice climber
Bellingham
Mar 5, 2010 - 05:16pm PT
Holy fricken awesome. To install first you need to install Greasemonkey, follow Hardman's link, then installing the script that Nate gave.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2010 - 05:18pm PT
Damn!!! works now, with a browser downgrade. will have to try with other versions when i get off work.

Nate, if you want to PM me an email address, I'll Paypal you $50.

very nice to have this kind of control!


(edit):
of course, this will work to hide anyone - just edit the line in the script:
if (strHrefName == "http://www.supertopo.com/inc/view_profile.php?dcid=ODM8NTo8OCc,"

view_profile.php?dcid=ODM8NTo8OCc is LEB's "ID". look at the HTML sourcecode and substitute the id for whoever....

Beatrix Kiddo

Mountain climber
Littleton
Mar 5, 2010 - 05:19pm PT
OMG! This is cool! For once people are not paying to shut me up.

Oops. Maybe they are! ahhahahaha

Woo hoo! :-)
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Mar 5, 2010 - 05:23pm PT
kunlun_shan or Nate - is it possible to add lines to the script (rather than editing) for multiple pests?
Nate Ricklin

climber
San Diego
Mar 5, 2010 - 05:25pm PT
Yep you can add lines:

if (strHrefName == "http://www.supertopo.com/inc/view_profile.php?dcid=ODM8NTo8OCc,") {
arrAllTables[j-2].style.display = "none";
break;
}
if (strHrefName == "http://supertopo.com/inc/view_profile.php?dcid=ODM8NTo8OCc,") {
arrAllTables[j-2].style.display = "none";
break;
}


Put that block inside the innermost for loop for each user you want to block. Put the link to their profile instead of the URL that is there (note one has www and one does not).


I'll try to make it more user-configurable too...
dktem

Trad climber
Temecula
Mar 5, 2010 - 05:26pm PT
Got it to work on FF 3.6. For some reason, clicking the download link after installing Greasemonkey does the trick.

I agree it's not a total solution, but it will help. If enough folks use it, it could gain critical mass and eliminate many of the responses as well. I'm optimistic.

Sometimes self-discipline needs a little help.

High praise for Nate!
TKingsbury

Trad climber
MT
Mar 5, 2010 - 05:30pm PT
Damn, that's cool!

Thanks!
Nate Ricklin

climber
San Diego
Mar 5, 2010 - 05:36pm PT
Before I take anybody's money I'll see if I can't make it work on the main forum page and be easier to configure for multiple users...
TKingsbury

Trad climber
MT
Mar 5, 2010 - 05:47pm PT
It's a choice by each user whether to filter or not...how can that be considered "Big Brother"?
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Mar 5, 2010 - 06:06pm PT
But, it's missing the bigger picture - the script only hides the posts from you, not from others, and it won't stop everyone else from replying to those posts.

This is exactly how it was using killfiles on Usenet; you'd still see the replies to the pest, but it was a small price to pay, all things considered...
dktem

Trad climber
Temecula
Mar 5, 2010 - 06:09pm PT
I have a filter on my TV listing because there are some stations that just don't interest me. I'd rather they didn't clutter the listing on the screen.

Is that "big brother" also?
Roman

Trad climber
Bostonia
Mar 5, 2010 - 06:19pm PT
installing greasemonkey now SO COOL> and THX!!!!!!!!




LEB finally gets the big and TRUE.... STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Mar 5, 2010 - 06:27pm PT
Well now, this is becoming very interesting.

The option of blocking posts from someone you'd rather not see/read is handy, but I wonder... Will all those who get so riled up about LEB actually use it? I find her posts annoying, and often disruptive of threads I'd otherwise like to participate in. My response has been to never, ever, respond to any of them or acknowledge them in any way. The "don't feed the troll" approach.

However, just as annoying, and sometimes even more annoying and disruptive, is the poo-flinging that her presence ignites.

So, now that the LEB-blocker is available, I'll be very interested to see if all of the poo-flingers use it. That is, despite their avowed disgust at LEB's presence, is that presence somehow necessary for them? She (it?) is a kind of lightning rod, and maybe her (its) presence allows them to discharge their pent-up emotional lightning in a way that doesn't hurt actual climbers on the forum.

Suppose Pate (or anyone) sees me saying something stupid. His natural reaction is maybe to call me out. But it's kind of a lose/lose deal. If he calls me -- a climber who contributes to the forum -- out, then there's bad blood among us. But if he doesn't, then resentment builds up inside him, until eventually he winds up calling someone else out, even more harshly.

But with LEB here as a convenient pressure relief valve, we avoid all that. If one of the tribe pisses you off a bit, no need to start a vendetta, just fling a little poo at LEB, and everybody's happy.

Or, would be happy if it all didn't spill over into the climbing threads. Or the threads where people are actually trying to be serious about discussion of non-climbing topics.

But yes, an ignore function could be just what we need. If only people will use it.
Nate Ricklin

climber
San Diego
Mar 5, 2010 - 06:27pm PT
Ok guys here's the super updated version:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/64jwyn

This one also blocks forum threads on the main forum page.

You can easily add any user you want by putting their name in the "usernames" list and putting their id in the "userids" list.


Anybody who wants to donate via paypal my email address is nate.ricklin@gmail.com

My poor grad-student ass isn't too proud to accept it.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2010 - 06:53pm PT
Beyond the call of duty! Awesome!!!

Money sent. Thank you very much, Nate!
dktem

Trad climber
Temecula
Mar 5, 2010 - 07:00pm PT
I'm using it already...made a token donation to Nate as well.

Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Mar 5, 2010 - 07:07pm PT
Anybody who wants to donate via paypal my email address is nate.ricklin@gmail.com

My poor grad-student ass isn't too proud to accept it.

Thanks for giving the Paypal link. I offered 5, but I'll give you 10, which would be
the same as buying you two pints including tip, which I would do in a heartbeat.

Cheers!
L

climber
Hangin' by a thread and lookin' for my wings
Mar 5, 2010 - 07:09pm PT
"But with LEB here as a convenient pressure relief valve, we avoid all that. If one of the tribe pisses you off a bit, no need to start a vendetta, just fling a little poo at LEB, and everybody's happy."


Ghost--you just cracked me up. I'm laughing so hard, I can't see straight. Thanks!

tooth

Trad climber
The Best Place On Earth
Mar 5, 2010 - 07:10pm PT
"But with LEB here as a convenient pressure relief valve, we avoid all that. If one of the tribe pisses you off a bit, no need to start a vendetta, just fling a little poo at LEB, and everybody's happy."


The funny thing is, you can still do this without ever seeing one of her posts again!
Andrew F

Trad climber
Sunnyvale, CA
Mar 5, 2010 - 07:57pm PT
A horrible solution to the whole LEB/HowweirdDean/troll paradox just came to me...

Nate Ricklin = LEB???



(just kidding, going to test your script out when I get home)
max factor

Trad climber
Mar 5, 2010 - 08:05pm PT
What a bunch of cry babies. If you don't like her posts, don't read them. Pretty freakin simple. There are far more offensive people than LEB on this website.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Mar 5, 2010 - 08:09pm PT
Nate - As promised, I sent payment. What a nice little windfall for you!

I hope people will use the script to hide those which push their buttons to the point they cannot contain themselves. Personally, I don't have the discipline to turn away from the trainwrecks as they occur, and I don't mean with any particular user. Two people walking down the sidewalks of NY and having an argument? Or a solo on the cel in a brouhaha with their lover? I'll slow down or speed up to stay within range - I am sick that way.

But I DO have enough discipline to not participate. It was a hard lesson won, I'll tell you. And I have had some slips(had one just the other day, in fact). But once one really does accept the fact that our engagement is what enables the abuse to go one, and steps away from reaction - it is quite satisfying.



dktem

Trad climber
Temecula
Mar 5, 2010 - 09:05pm PT
Jim,

If your television constantly had the same show on every other channel (a show you would not watch) and the remote control had a button to remove those channels from the list, would you not use that button?

Or would you continue to spend your time clicking past stuff you have no interest in watching, just out of principle?

Do you use a spam filter on your email? Or do you allow your mailbox to fill with nonsense because it would be mean to do otherwise?

Let's not make this out to be more than it is. It's modern convenience that helps individuals to filter out what they consider to be noise. Nothing more.



apogee

climber
Mar 5, 2010 - 09:35pm PT
Hey, can you write a script that will block the following people from ever impacting my life or making themselves known to me ever again?

George Bush
My tweaker neighbor who parties too loud
The guy at the post office who leaves 'Watchtower' shite everywhere
Sarah Palin
Mitch McConnell
My wife's boss
Darth Cheney
Hannity/O'Reilly
Anne Coulter
My obnoxious sister (Ok, maybe not her. I'll keep working at it.)
All of those people from that anti-gay Baptist cult
The entire LDS church
The tourons who trash and noise up my little town

There are more (lots more), so better make that script editable so I can add to it whenever someone pisses me off.

Man, that would be sooooooo much easier than dealing with my own issues.
Nate Ricklin

climber
San Diego
Mar 5, 2010 - 10:12pm PT
Well i don't see how it's any different from a spam filter or blocking the home shopping channel.

Personally, I'm very good at skimming over stuff that's not important, so I'm probably not going to use the script, but it was a fun challenge to see how fast I could make it for the people who wanted it.

It's cool to go from "seems like it should be possible" to "done, there it is".

If you don't like it, don't use it :)
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2010 - 10:15pm PT
The script works great at home on OSX and Firefox 3.5.8. Thanks again, Nate!

Without all the added noise, the "Why are those Republicans so wrong on everything" thread is much more readable!

(edit)^^ takes half the time to get thru the thing, simply by removing ONE person's comments :-) maybe i will start to look at some of those OT threads now.

Malemute - I used to run Asterisk (VOIP telephone system) here at home. It can be scripted to detect automated calling systems and respond with a "circuit out of order" tone. Ensures they don't call back.
apogee

climber
Mar 5, 2010 - 10:26pm PT
"Without all the added noise, the "Why are those Republicans so wrong on everything" thread is much more readable!"

Hmmm.....didn't think of that...

With such a script, I could surround myself only with people who say things I agree with...think like I do...don't challenge me with any kind of thinking that is unfamiliar to me....yes, I can see real potential in such a tool.

Nothing personal, Nate. I just think that using a script to filter out people you don't like is weak sauce. Especially when most of those who take issue with one person or another on ST tend to engage them regularly and persistently- by their own choice.

You are right, though- you can take it or leave it.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Mar 5, 2010 - 11:35pm PT
I really do not get why people think others shouldn't use this hide script. Do you LIKE seeing people going off on Lois?

Has it ever occurred to you that the likely reduction in attacks by those people will make LOIS' experience on ST better? Instead of having to defend herself against what are often quite cruel and hurtful posts, she will actually be better able to interact with others in the threads she posts in.

As well, I do believe that there will be some pressure imposed on those who continue to bag on her. They'll be told to STFU or use the filter. And if they continue to go off, they will likely NOT have a host of support for doing so.

I think this is actually a good thing, even though I'm sure it has hurt Lois' feelings. But, has it hurt her any more than the repeated attacks which show no sign of abating?

It should be interesting to see how this change affects Supertopo. I am convinced it will be positive in the long run.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Mar 6, 2010 - 01:46am PT
Back on topic.

I've thought about such a script.

I'll look into it. IT's not a bad idea. And I've thought about doing it in the past.

A fund raiser might make the time worth it.

Now back to your regularly scheduled kitten brawl.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 6, 2010 - 01:48am PT
Quel drame!
WBraun

climber
Mar 6, 2010 - 01:53am PT
You people who are obsessed with LEB are goners and have lost all sense of reality.

When you're operating in the mode of ignorance then you're obsessed with LEB.

You have no life.

Dead spirit with covered imprisoned soul ...........
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Mar 6, 2010 - 08:49am PT
"...Something about it's an absolute unconditional filter - unlike the human brain or a heuristic spam filter (which can respond differently according the the situation), it reduces the need to practice acceptance / patience / tolerance / self-control ... As with many other functions, if we delegate them (to technology or mechanization, for instance), our ability to perform those functions is at risk of atrophy"

I don't know about you, but I see opportunities to practice all those virtues pretty much all day long, every day I'm out there, and in a more reality-based environment. Online IS a reality, in my opinion, but it is a quirky one, due to the barrier involved. It's sort of as if we were neighbors with a really high rock wall between us.

A 5.12 rock wall, meaning some of us can scale it and go climbing, to SushiFests, Facelifts and such and actually see "really" meet each other. But most of us just don't climb 5.12, and sort of just stand in various sections of our yards yelling across/over/through/at the rock wall assuming our neighbor can hear what we are saying.....

If someone is so shut-in that "this" is their primary channel of experiencing human interactions(and for some, it probably is), then there are a few steps they need to be taking before they would be able to understand "we are not alone...."
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Mar 6, 2010 - 10:01am PT
We have Werner ensconced in a yoga pose surrounded by a golden halo at one end of the spectrum, and LEB stooped over beckoning with crooked fingers and one breast revealed at the other. Somehow we must tread the path to enlightenment between.
dirtbag

climber
Mar 6, 2010 - 10:07am PT
I'm new to this thread, but yeah...what Werner, happiegirl and locker said.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Mar 6, 2010 - 11:30am PT
like the idea of the script or knott, if someone went out of their way to write a script to filter out your voice on a forum.... what would you do?

Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Mar 6, 2010 - 01:26pm PT
Go climbing?
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Mar 10, 2010 - 01:22am PT
Thanks for the download Nate.
So far I'm up to 7 Kill Names and 10 No Posts and haven't even gotten to the delusional politicos yet.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 10, 2010 - 01:35am PT
Woah, so its cool now to talk sh#t about people by pointing out how ugly they are in their profile pictures? You really want to go down that road guys?

LEB is an annoying troll, but y'all are fukkin pathetic.

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 10, 2010 - 01:51am PT
Hey goatboy, please add me too to that list. I don't want you wasting your time here either.
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Mar 10, 2010 - 01:59am PT
but...but...I thought we were friends?
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 10, 2010 - 02:01am PT
Eh, I'm not worth your time duder.
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Mar 10, 2010 - 02:40am PT
Nope you're real and actually have something to say.
It's the trolls and knuckledraggers that are getting the chop.

Whackity Whack!
L

climber
Yeah it's a furball...I TOLD you I was a cat!
Mar 10, 2010 - 01:58pm PT
"Woah, so its cool now to talk sh#t about people by pointing out how ugly they are in their profile pictures? You really want to go down that road guys?"

Fergodsake GDavis--what the heck has happened to the IQ for Humor around here???

I was NOT pointing out how "ugly" Lois was in her avatar photo! If I'd wanted to do something mean like that--which I've never done in the past about anyone on the Taco and will never do in the future--I would've friggin' SAID IT! "Hey, look how ugly you were 30 years ago! Woohoo!"

Jeeeeeeez! This projection thing you and graniteclimber have going on is bizarre and, as we've seen, rather hurtful.

I was replying to her insinuation that I was somehow defective for not having a husband by joking about she and her husband looking "stuffed" like the friggin' BEAR in the photo! Stuffed like a bear. Not ugly. Not grotesque. STUFFED. As in "UNREAL".

It's so ludicrous, I can't even believe I'm having to explain myself again. No one really believed it was a photo of the LEB poster anyway...I know I didn't. But whether it was her or not, I WAS NOT CALLING HER UGLY. Not even insinuating it. Understand?

You and graniteclimber want to be pissed about the post-blocking software and project that disgruntlement on to me--that's what I'm seeing. Fine. Have fun. It makes you the same sort of db you're labeling me...only--as so many Tacos have pointed out--hypocrites on top of it.

Now can we let this damn thing die please.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Mar 10, 2010 - 02:30pm PT
isn't it grand how one seemingly innocuous non-climber can have a bunch of climbers that generally like each other at each other throat.

It just makes me giggle.

Oh the power of LEB. I would be so proud of myself to be like her in that regard.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Mar 10, 2010 - 02:36pm PT
Nature - IF you are really the original LEB - then you are a very, very - VERY - sick individual!
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Mar 10, 2010 - 04:05pm PT
chop chop chop, watch the heads roll, chop chop chop...

I haven't blocked Lois yet, it's kind of fun to watch her turn the knife on some of you.

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 10, 2010 - 04:50pm PT
L

I was referring to this:

Lois...your old man not much to look at but then again look who is married too...LOL


Maybe chill out?
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Mar 12, 2010 - 01:00pm PT
I would like to give my profound, heart-felt thanks to kunlun_shan for starting this thread,
and Nate Ricklin for his final masterpiece - an easily configurable script which turned Hell into Heaven.

It's amazing how a small handful of self-absorbed posters had such a negative impact on my enjoyment of the forum in recent times;
I reached the point to where I was spending less and less time here - my annoyance threshold had grown thin, the distractions tedious.

But with the script (and the 5 names I've added to it) it's like reuniting with an old friend.

Cheers!
atchafalaya

climber
Babylon
Mar 12, 2010 - 02:56pm PT
Thanks Nate Ricklin, I will try to paypal $$ later. And goodbye LEB (and several others who post incessantly).
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 17, 2010 - 11:27am PT
The other day, checking out ST from a workstation without Greasemonkey installed, I noticed the LEB has started trolling again. The Greasemonkey script is no longer available from the link upthread, so I'm archiving the code here. Huge thanks to Nate for writing it. I hope this shows up alright - if it doesn't work, email me and I can send you the script in a more pristine format:


// UserScript
// @name Super Topo LEB Killer
// @namespace Nobody
// @description Hides LEB in supertopo threads
// @include http://www.supertopo.com/*
// @include http://supertopo.com/*
// /UserScript


// You won't see threads started by these usernames:
usernames = new Array("LEB","killname2","killname3","somebody else");

// You won't see posts from these userids (look at their profile link, don't use the comma at the end).
userids = new Array("ODM8NTo8OCc","anotherid","anotherid","anotherid");

// main forum page
var arrAllTables = document.body.getElementsByTagName("table");
for (var j=0; j<arrAllTables.length; j++) {
var arrAllrows = arrAllTables[j].getElementsByTagName("tr");
for (var i=1; i<arrAllrows.length; i++) {
var arrAlltd = arrAllrows.getElementsByTagName("td");
for (var p=0; p<arrAlltd.length; p++) {
var blah=arrAlltd[p].innerHTML;
for (var q=0; q<usernames.length; q++) {
if (blah == usernames[q]) {
arrAllrows.style.display = "none";
break;
}
}
}
}
}


// thread page
var prof_str = "supertopo.com/inc/view_profile.php?dcid=";
var arrAllTables = document.body.getElementsByTagName("table");
for (var j=0; j<arrAllTables.length; j++) {
var cellspace = arrAllTables[j].getAttribute("cellspacing");
if (cellspace == "1") {
var arrAllAnchors = arrAllTables[j].getElementsByTagName("a");
for (var i=0; i<arrAllAnchors.length; i++) {
var strHrefName = arrAllAnchors.getAttribute("href");
for (var q=0; q<userids.length; q++) {
if (strHrefName == "http://"+prof_str+userids[q]+",") {
arrAllTables[j-2].style.display = "none";
break;
}
if (strHrefName == "http://www."+prof_str+userids[q]+",") {
arrAllTables[j-2].style.display = "none";
break;
}
}
}
}
}



Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Aug 17, 2010 - 11:52am PT
That is some funny shite!

goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Oct 5, 2010 - 07:29pm PT
Added to the list;

philo - Oz44NTQ5OiQ
medusa - Ozs5Pz0


philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Oct 5, 2010 - 07:44pm PT
Really GoatBoy, really?
Well all I can say is thanx.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Oct 5, 2010 - 08:20pm PT
just kidding, I would miss the high level of drama you bring to the stand.

xxoo
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Oct 5, 2010 - 08:27pm PT
I wouldn't mind you blocking me in the least. But lumping me in on the same paragraph as MehDOUCHEahh is exceptionally offensive.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jan 9, 2011 - 07:43pm PT
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1108086&tn=0&mr=0

Edit: I meant to post this link in the other thread - LOL!
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Jan 9, 2011 - 08:11pm PT
Hi. I am new here and have thoroughly enjoyed reading this little catbox party. Some of us cant handle much and have too much internet in our lives...I thank you for entertaining me with it.

froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 9, 2011 - 08:16pm PT
And if you want to get rid of gratuitous white space in posts...

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1362616

Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 9, 2011 - 08:19pm PT
Holy moly!! It workds. Thanks for erasing the white space - that is especially annoying on the droid.

Still can't get the 'delete a poster' to work though. :(
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