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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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You might query why you and I had diametrically different experiences of Livesey. Denz was another character that exposed this difference between you and I.
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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I am enjoying the book, especially the observations on people I have known and the other characters active in British climbing at the time.
I never knew Fawcett or Livesey so won't comment on the Donini/Hahn disagreement, but I'd be pretty incensed too if someone questioned me like that.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Peter, i would bet that we would be in agreement about most climbing issues and people. We do seem to have had opposite experiences with Livsey and Denz. They were both formidable climbers with strong personalities.....i applaud you for having had good experiences with them. They are no longer with us but both left their mark....each in his own way.
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jaaan
Trad climber
Chamonix, France
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I think you're wrong about Livesey, Jim. He had the driest, most mischievous sense of humour of any of his contemporaries. His writing reflects this beautifully. Maybe it was the fact that he wasn't an architypal (I'm thinking along the lines of the Whillans model here) Brit?
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Probably in one of the posted videos or mentioned elsewhere, but one of my favorite lines from one of his old videos was:
"Me' arms! Me' arms!"
We still say that all the time. lol
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Yeah we apparently did have very different experiences of Bill and Pete. Exactly my point and an opportunity, Jim, to consider why especially when so many found Pete to be so splendidly witty.
Ricky, put a hat on it; Do know that Jim and I are very old friends; since 1969-1970 and do not fool around when we chat.
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