Peter, i would bet that we would be in agreement about most climbing issues and people. We do seem to have had opposite experiences with Livsey and Denz. They were both formidable climbers with strong personalities.....i applaud you for having had good experiences with them. They are no longer with us but both left their mark....each in his own way.
I think you're wrong about Livesey, Jim. He had the driest, most mischievous sense of humour of any of his contemporaries. His writing reflects this beautifully. Maybe it was the fact that he wasn't an architypal (I'm thinking along the lines of the Whillans model here) Brit?