Boot Flake Fell of El Cap This Morning!!!

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Sam

Novice climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 14, 2002 - 01:34pm PT
I just got off the phone w/ a friend who is up in the valley! I guess it was a spectacular crashing sound (that much would be obvious) really early this morning as it slid down and broke up, crashing onto the apron and then the talus below.

I don't know anything about injuries or anything like that, I hope no one was bivey'd over there! I guess the NPS has blocked access to the whole area, and there is a massive amount of dust and crap in the air in that area. You can't even go to El Cap meadow, and they have traffic going two ways on the other side of the Valley.

Does anyone know of a web cab shot of the Captain?
?

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 02:29pm PT
http://www.yosemite.org/vryos/
garyd

Novice climber
humboldt
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 02:30pm PT
here is a web cam link (though not much help)

http://www.yosemite.org/vryos/

this is probably a troll anyway ...
Sam

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 02:36pm PT
Sure!
Fine!
Whatever!

It must take practice to troll well.



It just seems so serious around here all of a sudden...
Largo

Advanced climber
Nov 14, 2002 - 02:48pm PT
Boot flake fell off?

I'll bet you a dollar this is a silly rumor--not that there was much more than frozen cobwebs hoding the Boot on the wall, but this simply sounds too grand to be true, with the road closures and all.

JL
Jim Bob

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 03:19pm PT
Yea, the Valley looks really torn up... Maybe someone should have put bolts spaced every two feet around boot flake and clipped it in.
novice

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 03:33pm PT
did any routes use the boot flake?
Lynn

Intermediate climber
Los Angeles, CA
Nov 14, 2002 - 04:02pm PT
The Nose -
There is a free SuperTopo for it that you can download to study if you interested
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Nov 14, 2002 - 04:03pm PT
i took the bait and called the Yosemite Mtn Shop and they hadn't heard of any rock fall. Of course, the Boot Flake falling off is not improbable. As Largo mentioned, there isn't any visible means of attachment to the wall. On the second ascent of the Nose, Royal Robbins was nailing it and it expanded so much and made such a terrible hollow sound that he added a chicken-bolt midway. That bolt was chopped on the next ascent by Roper and since then everyone has more or less assumed its permanent... or is it?
news update

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 04:28pm PT
In a landmark decision, the NPS has decided to remove the boot flake this winter. Four cranes will be lowered in by heli and secured to the top of El Captain. Several climbers will be employed to attach the cables and place small explosives to fully detach the flake. Contact www.NPS.Gov/~ElCapDemolition for more information.
Hammer

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 04:32pm PT
Great photo of Boot Flake by William Zittrich in the gallery.
DS

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 04:35pm PT
Here's a good photo taken just a few hours after the big event.
<a href="http://www.safanda.com/bootflake.jpg"><img src="http://www.safanda.com/bootfake.jpg" width="272" height="448" border="0"></a>
garyd

Novice climber
humboldt
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 04:52pm PT
too much DS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that was great!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 04:53pm PT
Photoshop strikes again. Weak troll David.
DS

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 04:59pm PT
Just felt like jumping on the band wagon. You're right, it is a weak troll. Sort of fun to imagine what it might look like though.
?

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 04:59pm PT
Can you photoshop it in there behind Texas flake?
Now that would be cool.
Bob

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 05:19pm PT
Actually the picture is pretty cool, it was the original troll that was week.
Sam

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 07:51pm PT
Yeah Bob-

All I did was get Chris Mac and John Long to at least laugh, weak huh? Guess next time I should pretend to be a racist idiot, then it would be "gold, gold I tell you!".
F*#kin' Idiot

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 08:22pm PT
Nice. Yep. And thanks to me, you have officially trolled TWO websites (rockclimbing.com). I should have waited to see how this washed out before opening my damn yapper. I've got to get job that requires I put some effort the whole "work" thingy, instead of sitting around surfing the web all day...

GOT ME!!

P/D

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 14, 2002 - 11:17pm PT
Hey Sam..idiot maybe....but racist no. I managed to troll a pack of idiot racists...but that was just by chance. I never started, nor participated in racism. Now idiocy...sure, plenty. Some folks are so dumb it IS funny.
Nor Cal

Intermediate climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 15, 2002 - 10:54am PT
Its true, I was in the Valley yesterday, saw the boot and I wore it home, the best Booty I've ever scored!


oh that is really bad...
it

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 15, 2002 - 01:37pm PT
Best troll on this thread: "did any routes use the boot flake?" Nice.
Sam

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 15, 2002 - 01:45pm PT
FI-
re: rockclimbing.com

I love it!
A virus troll...

You can't stop it, you can only hope to contain it.
stinkfist

Advanced climber
yosemite
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2002 - 12:35pm PT
The boot flake did not fall off!!!!!... Heres a real question for you sprayers out there.. I was in the meadow a few days ago and this guy noticed a serious difference in the nipple on zodiac. He was like holy sh#t it fell off. Having done the route about a week before I thought I'd give him some insight through some binos and sure enought it looked alot different,,,,, anyone got ant info on this???????????????
Nor Cal

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2002 - 11:26pm PT
sure, try and re-troll
...

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2002 - 12:18pm PT
If the leader does that pitch just right, the nipple swells and gets all excited and stuff... maybe you have never seen a nipple look like that, so you didn't realize what you were looking at?
gr

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2002 - 06:01pm PT
what's with people and exclamation points? Maybe I don't use exclamation points as haphazardly as everyone else!!!!!!!
kl

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2002 - 06:48pm PT
good point gr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whats the deal???????
?

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2002 - 08:10pm PT
You talkin to me?

Are you talkin to me?

You talkin to me?

What?

You talkin to me?
Sam

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2002 - 06:38pm PT
Hey "reality"-
This is how you troll, take some notes.
reality

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2002 - 06:54pm PT
you thought this was funny? or that it actually hooked anyone? at least I'm asking important questions to which everyone has an opinion.
james

Novice climber
TX
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2002 - 07:13pm PT
Are you SERIOUS???!!! Boot Flake fell off the captain? I can't believe it. I guess I'll have to climb something else when I go to the Valley next summer.
?

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2002 - 08:47pm PT
so did it fall of or is this all a buch of bull sh#t
?

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2002 - 01:01am PT
who is this really poor speller posting under my punctuation mark?

get your own slimey rock to sleep under, dude!
homey don't play dat...
Duh

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2002 - 10:43am PT
"Poor speller"? I beleive you moniker is a question mark.
Duh

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2002 - 10:43am PT
"Poor speller"? I believe you moniker is a question mark.
Duh

Novice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2002 - 10:44am PT
"Poor speller"? I believe your moniker is a question mark.
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Jan 5, 2010 - 02:41am PT
RIP boot flake
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jan 5, 2010 - 07:53am PT
now there is a van's retro checkered slip-on in it's place..
jfailing

Trad climber
A trailer park in the Sierras
Jan 5, 2010 - 09:06am PT
The thread title totally got me - near the top of the page and early in the morning too...
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jan 5, 2010 - 05:10pm PT
Where's Werner's take on this?????
MisterE

Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
Jan 5, 2010 - 06:08pm PT
"Hey, Sexy thing! Why don't you kick off your boot and come over here..."

;-P
altieboo

Boulder climber
Livermore, Ca
Jan 5, 2010 - 09:50pm PT
Good god. Almost freaked out. Good one.
Binks

Social climber
Apr 1, 2010 - 02:16pm PT
OMG! Is this really true?
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Nov 3, 2010 - 01:59am PT
time for a bump, given the conditions up on the cap these days :)
Matt

Trad climber
primordial soup
Nov 3, 2010 - 02:43am PT
Ha HA, this is pretty funny-

I think I have confessed to this before, but I posted this troll, all those years back. I used to think I was pretty funny...
=)

Cheers!


Hey what's the other 2002-2010 connection?!?!?


























Go Giants!
avid

Trad climber
sacramento, ca
Nov 3, 2010 - 02:54am PT
OMG!!!
BASE104

climber
An Oil Field
Nov 3, 2010 - 03:02am PT
Hah! I tried to start a boot flake lottery a couple of years ago only to be informed that it had been tried before.

I tell ya, I dunno what is holding that thing on. And it will fall off, as sure as the Sierra Batholith will turn to eroded sandstone someday.

That is the cool thing about working subsurface geology. There are all of these buried river channels and delta systems. Even old mountain remnants that have come and gone and been buried.

Nothing lasts forever except for human stupidity.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Nov 3, 2010 - 05:17am PT
hey there matt, say... oh my... as always.... very interesting times, here at ol' supertopo...

also, interesing sandstone note, base104, thanks for the share...
:)
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Nov 3, 2010 - 06:35am PT
Boot Flake is my ultimate dining table - seating for forty.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Nov 3, 2010 - 09:49am PT
I've got dibs on 12/21/12
thedogfather

climber
Somewhere near Red Rocks
Nov 3, 2010 - 10:29am PT
I like the fact that the original poster's background color is light pink on my browser and all the fake id's that are trying to pump up the thread are also pink showing that it is the same joker. Half the posts on the thread are from the same computer but with different user names. I had never seen that before but it sure does make it easy to catch a scam.
Doug Robinson

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 3, 2010 - 10:30am PT
Or maybe 8,000 years, since the river of ice last tickled its toes...

Time: depends on how you look at it.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Nov 3, 2010 - 11:01am PT
hahahah - This thread could get bumped every 3 months and still get people's attention!
mooser

Trad climber
seattle
Nov 3, 2010 - 11:14am PT
Got mine. I hadn't seen the first thread, but I still kind of hold my breath every time I look at that flake.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 28, 2012 - 09:57pm PT
never seen an op talk to himself so much
Michelle

Social climber
SH60091
Mar 28, 2012 - 11:33pm PT
I wonder who'll climb the area first.
Matt

Trad climber
it's all turtles, all the way dooowwwwwnn!!!!!
Apr 1, 2012 - 11:35pm PT
bump!
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Apr 1, 2012 - 11:37pm PT
No, really, this time it did!!!!!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 1, 2012 - 11:54pm PT
Leaving sock pinnacle, 5.11a sole climb.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 1, 2012 - 11:55pm PT
Every day was 1 April for Juan de Fuca.
tithaf

Trad climber
Sierra Madre, CA
May 31, 2012 - 10:07pm PT
OK, so has anyone done a structural/geomorphological analysis on Boot Flake? Some sort of vibration analysis? Sumpthin' at all?? or is it just serious low-hanging scientific fruit (high-hanging rock)?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
May 31, 2012 - 10:15pm PT
Any degree of measuring would affect the rock and therefore corrupt the experiment.

Leave the calipers at home, their employment would be fruitless. Confirm with Largo.

Just remember: "you cannot kiss your own lips."

Experience is the thing - the Holy Grail - on Boot Flake. (Not to mention a positive attitude.) And this experience is really not something "we can clasp with calipers or jam into a test tube."

Also, it's open-ended, really, whether Boot Flake is, in and of itself, traditional "material."



How am I doing? :)
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
May 31, 2012 - 10:17pm PT
"Boot Flake socks it to Nose. Suspected stocking."
LilaBiene

Trad climber
May 31, 2012 - 10:19pm PT
HA! MH! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
May 31, 2012 - 10:20pm PT
http://www.elcapreport.com/content/elcap-report-53012-and-53112

Check out this page of photos taken earlier today… Of the boot!!!

Total Troll!!!
tithaf

Trad climber
Sierra Madre, CA
May 31, 2012 - 10:32pm PT
I know, I know - I was looking at those photos and it made me do a little taco search then a little written a-wonderin'.

I fell asleep sitting next to the flake on Jackson-Johnson on Hallett Peak in RMNP, had a dream that I ate a rock, and woke to find the flake was gone.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
merced, california
Jun 1, 2012 - 12:37am PT
"I Get a Kick Out of You"
Cole not Charlie

My story is much too sad to be told,
But practically everything leaves me cold.
The exception I know is the case
When I'm out on a quiet spree,
Fighting vainly the old ennui,
And I suddenly turn and see your fabulous face.

I get no kick from champagne.
Mere alcohol doesn't thrill me at all.
So tell me why should it be true
That I get a kick out of you?

Some, they may go for cocaine.
I'm sure that if I took even one sniff
It would bore me terrifically, too.
Yet I get a kick out of you.

I get a kick every time
I see you standing there before me.
I get a kick though it's clear to see
You obviously do not adore me.

I get no kick in a plane.
Flying too high with some gal in the sky
Is my idea of nothing to do,
Yet I get a kick--um you give me a boot--I get a kick out of you.




mouse from merced

Trad climber
merced, california
Jun 1, 2012 - 12:52am PT
But if it were not a troll looking to get someone's goat, then the dirtbags would have gotten gainful employment, much like this gang.
I would like to see Bear Grylls as the gang boss in this clip from Blazing Saddle Shoes.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
The NPS might have had to think about massive Viagara* shots for El Cap Spire.
Stop taking Viagara if you experience erections that last longer than 20,000 years and see your doctor.

*Viagara is a new drug designed to put the pizazz back in scenic wonder.

Alternative to Camp Town Races~Camp 4 Ladies.

Run with it...
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 13, 2012 - 05:45pm PT
that's it... i'm tired of this thread. I'm going up there with a crow bar and finishing the deal once and for all.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 13, 2012 - 05:48pm PT
Hey, don't knock off the Boot until Audrey has had a chance to visit Dolt Tower! Domino effect and all that, eh?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 13, 2012 - 06:29pm PT
I'll give her the crow bar. two birds with one stone....
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Oct 13, 2012 - 08:39pm PT
I was thinking explosives.
LilaBiene

Trad climber
Oct 17, 2012 - 10:43pm PT
Nature, I suspect there would be some serious karmic payback if I went up there with a crowbar... too funny! :D
jfailing

Trad climber
PDX, North Slope, The Open Road
Apr 1, 2013 - 07:15am PT
It's about that time of year, isn't it?
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 1, 2013 - 07:20am PT
Ya got me! Not. Seen this last time.. Worked then.. Kinda..
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Apr 1, 2013 - 09:53am PT
No, really, this time it did!
Crackslayer

Trad climber
Eldo
Apr 1, 2013 - 11:32am PT
This reminds me of the one a few years back about the cobra. I had been gone for a few weeks and I didn't put together the date. I was like damn. I never climbed that friggin' thing and now it fell over! I should get on top of that thing before it really does fall.
Edge

Trad climber
New Durham, NH
Apr 1, 2013 - 11:40am PT
Boot Flake fell off again? Oh noes!
Gene

climber
Apr 1, 2013 - 11:46am PT
Damn thing won't stay put.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Apr 1, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
Gene! LOL!!!!
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Apr 1, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
Here is what has happened, Pilgrims. The damn flake DID detach, but slid down to Texas Flake with an unanchored guy riding it down while sitting on top; his party was still attached to the anchors above and one was way below, starting the King Swing. Take a look. This has to be the most amazing experience ever in rock climbing for all four of these climbers!! Shot this morning!!

Gene

climber
Apr 1, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
Peter,

Thanks for the photographic evidence. Appreciated.

This means we have to rename the King Swing since the original version has gone south, right? Any suggestions?

g
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Apr 1, 2013 - 06:01pm PT
Absolutely, Gene. And people probably STILL won't believe this and are plain stuck on the April Fool's Day business. Yawn. This is a huge-A deal!!

Now we can see there was virtually nothing holding the flake on the wall, too. What? Velcro? Amazing.

Imagine the ride down for the unanchored guy. It looks from here he is thoroughly blown out and can hardly hang on any more.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 1, 2013 - 06:23pm PT
I can still see their rope attached to the Boot Flake! They better not take it off belay!
Gene

climber
Apr 1, 2013 - 06:31pm PT
Do you see his sh#t streaks on the former Boot Flake to his right and below? He must have let go when the flake let go. OMG!

PowerBar diet?

g
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Apr 1, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
I have been predicting this for four decades. We are going to have to thru-bolt the sucker all the way from Hetch-Hetchy now; we can't have this take place ever again. Getting in back in place prior to thru-bolting: I don't know. Since they won't let us stage a crane on the rim there, maybe successive air pods and blocks??? Any ideas, crew?
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Apr 1, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
damn, again
deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Apr 1, 2013 - 11:40pm PT
El Cap's giving Texas the boot!
briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Apr 11, 2013 - 11:20am PT
And Half Dome exploded this morning!!!









...

WBraun

climber
Apr 11, 2013 - 11:25am PT
Big rockfall right behind Camp 4 yesterday afternoon.

I could see the granite dust from the sar cache yard.

This is NOT bullsh!t either ......
Gene

climber
Apr 1, 2014 - 09:40am PT
It's-that-day bump!
MAD BOLTER

Trad climber
CARLSBAD,NM
Apr 1, 2014 - 10:57am PT
OBVIOUSLY AN APRIL-FOOL'S-DAY ITEM. IT WAS 12 YRS AGO THAT THIS STUFF WAS POSTED.
EVERYBODY WHO HAS BEEN IN THE VALLEY HAS SEEN THE "BOOT" SINCE THEN.
MAD BOLTER

Trad climber
CARLSBAD,NM
Apr 1, 2014 - 11:01am PT
WHO KEEPS REPLACING IT ON FOOL'S DAY EACH YEAR?
thekidcormier

Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
Apr 1, 2014 - 11:02am PT
Omg

The horror
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Apr 1, 2014 - 11:03am PT
I woulda bumped it but someone beat me to it this morning.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Apr 1, 2014 - 11:18am PT
Warren has risen and the Merced River is flowing with wine.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 1, 2014 - 11:22am PT
Haven't those crag administrators heard of shoe goo?
kaholatingtong

Trad climber
Nevada City
Apr 1, 2014 - 11:28am PT
shoe goee? pssh. simple super glue works wonders. fact.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Apr 1, 2014 - 04:56pm PT

Knott again??????
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 1, 2015 - 07:42am PT
And Again?
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Apr 1, 2015 - 07:44am PT
Just look at that filthy sock under where the boot fell off.

Disgusting!
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Apr 1, 2015 - 08:23am PT
It's tragic,
Thank God no one got hurt
Quite a mess at the base though, maybe old booty

Peter Haan got a Photo
Jones in LA

Mountain climber
Tarzana, California
Apr 1, 2015 - 08:36am PT
Tom Evans just posted this image on El Cap Pics and it looks like Boot Flake has slipped down the left edge of Texas Flake (where it got stuck in 2013), got its toe hooked on the end of Texas, and flipped over. It looks really tenuous now, maybe on its last leg so to speak.

(Tom apologizes for the low quality of the image -- he said he was shaking with excitement when he snapped the photo)

life is a bivouac

Trad climber
Apr 1, 2015 - 10:37am PT
I'm pretty sure I read about this last year, No?
Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
Apr 1, 2015 - 10:58am PT
Its a seasonal thing...
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Apr 1, 2015 - 11:19am PT
It does it every 4/1
Barbarian

climber
Apr 1, 2015 - 11:42am PT
My April 1st is now complete.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Apr 1, 2015 - 11:46am PT
Holy Crap!

Someone needs to put a stop to this.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 1, 2015 - 11:58am PT
The thread topic is very confusing to the Gaels as they would read it as an
unfinished sentence:

Boot Flake Upland Moor of El Cap This Morning did what?
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Apr 1, 2015 - 02:25pm PT
Damn rock stackers.

Susan
xbow

Trad climber
TWENTYNIN PLM
Feb 10, 2016 - 09:34pm PT
I stole Boot Flake and for my next heist I plan on stealing Texas Flake.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Feb 10, 2016 - 10:12pm PT
... to be sold for millions a dollars to an undisclosed Chinese buyer.
BruceHildenbrand

Social climber
Mountain View/Boulder
Feb 10, 2016 - 10:29pm PT
Glenn Denny told me this story that happened on the third ascent of the Nose. On the second ascent, Robbins didn't think Boot Flake was going to stay put so he placed a bolt while he was leading it. On the 3rd ascent Roper really wanted to lead Boot Flake so he could climb it without using Robbins' bolt. Which is what he did.
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Feb 11, 2016 - 07:58am PT
I trademarked the name Boot Flake. Expect a letter from my lawyer.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 11, 2016 - 08:15am PT
Back then they were hardly old men; but they were young firebrands who set their world on fire during the Pentecost of climbing history.

When it does finally fall off, may Boot Flake rest in pieces.

Bow your heads and pray that you're nowhere in the area, sinners!


Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 1, 2016 - 11:00am PT
Come on.. No one bumped this?? ;)
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Apr 1, 2016 - 11:16am PT
Last year I could have said that the Robbins Traverse fell off, but three months later I would have spoken the truth.

John
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Apr 1, 2016 - 11:01pm PT
You're laughing today, but Yosemite Valley has been sloughing off its skin for a very, very long time. Robbins Traverse, the Chandelier, Atlantic Ocean Wall . . . really, too many to list . . . have all fallen to the march of Father Time and the pressure of Mother Thermal Expansion.

Boot Flake is just standing in line, waiting for its turn to take the Big Ride.



Pulling that thing off the wall while laybacking it would be the all-time epic whipper, but the traversing ladder of belay bolts above Texas would save you.


If it cut loose during your King Swing, you could just run right across as it accelerated downwards, like swimming in a snow avalanche. As long as you remembered to clip your haul bag in on top, there'd be no problem at all.






Russ the Fish most eloquently said this, regarding another notorious piece of choss that was high on the Nose:

I wish somebody would just rifle up there and after checking with the lookout on the ground, honk this thing off.




johntp

Trad climber
socal
Apr 1, 2016 - 11:16pm PT
It will be interesting when it does come off.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Apr 1, 2016 - 11:35pm PT
Yosemite's granite cliffs are 'breathing,' and heat can make them fall - Los Angeles Times


El Capitan is a living, breathing entity. Evidence of its internal circulatory system can be seen at the Tangerine Drip, and the grassy oasis just above the Heart Roof (Poorly Protected California Wetlands).



El Capitan is ALIVE.


Do not turn your back on El Capitan.

Do not run from El Capitan.

Do not underestimate the power of El Capitan.

Do not taunt, tease or otherwise annoy El Capitan.




El Capitan: You like it, it likes you.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 2, 2016 - 06:00am PT
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Apr 2, 2016 - 10:17am PT
I suspect that this should have been posted on a different date, such as 1 April?
rmuir

Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
Apr 2, 2016 - 12:37pm PT
Again?
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Apr 1, 2017 - 08:49pm PT
For real, this time!
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Apr 1, 2017 - 08:53pm PT
Flake fake!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 1, 2017 - 09:28pm PT
That thang must be on a bungee!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 1, 2017 - 10:43pm PT
God knows what's still holding it on there.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 1, 2017 - 10:53pm PT
You got that right. Royal thought the thing was spooky enough to place a bolt before nailing up it on the second ascent.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Apr 2, 2017 - 02:16am PT
^^^^^

That is really saying something about how tenuous that block is. If Robbins, who had done the lower choss third of Half Dome, was spooked, then that THING is scary.



The rumor, back in the day, was that nobody was slower on the bolt-gun draw than Chuck Pratt. Royal Robbins was right there. And maybe even slower. Adding a bolt to the Nose Route would have tortured RR, and he would not have done that lightly.

i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Apr 2, 2017 - 01:18pm PT

The Boot laced in place!



secret adhesive for added strength!
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Apr 2, 2017 - 01:28pm PT
when that boot falls off there's gunna be one stinky sock hanging around😬
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Apr 2, 2017 - 02:33pm PT
When the boot drops nobody is going to believe it.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 2, 2017 - 07:50pm PT
The thing about Boot Flake is that there aren't any chockstones lodged behind it levering it off so it seems to stay put. I never got to ask Royal about that bolt when I was around him. Placing another one with a ladder below always seemed like a strange decision to me but the safety-oriented mentality of the time is hard to relate to these days. There was a line of decision on risk to the party that the leader had to consider.
I have asked Tom Frost about this but not Joe Fitschen.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 3, 2017 - 03:34pm PT
Joe writes this about that:

Royal nailed up the right side of the Boot, but as he got higher he thought more and more about the true nature of Book Flake, that it was simply resting against the main wall like a drunk against a light pole.

Simple mechanics prompted him to conclude that the pitons he was driving were small wedges such as one might use to split a large round of oak. How many such wedges would it take to move the Boot even the fraction of an inch necessary to allow the lower pitons to fall out of the crack?

And if the flake could be moved that much, how much more would it need to be moved before gravity would take over and hurl the boot downward as if God were aiming at some miscreant cat? Such thoughts are both prudent and dangerous.

A prudent climber nurses just enough fear to promote an appropriate degree of caution, but too much fear can lead to impulsive and rash acts or, ultimately, paralysis.

Halfway up the flake, Royal decided to place a bolt where Harding had not found it necessary. Perhaps at that point, Harding was tired of drilling holes. Royal finished the lead and happily clipped into Harding's two bombproof bolts on top of Boot Flake.
--Going Up, p. 406
aspendougy

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Apr 3, 2017 - 05:17pm PT
Based upon thickness and approximate length and width, maybe someone with a geology background could estimate the weight of the flake. If you know the approximate weight, and then see what a miniscule addition the weight of one climber is, might be reassuring, or make it more scary, depending upon the result. Any guess for the heaviest climber to ever stand on top of it? At some point, might have to put a weight limit; no climbers above 200 lbs. Then again, maybe each spring, get a bunch of big fat guys to get on top of it, and jump up and down a few times. If it holds, it's good for another climbing season.
F10

Trad climber
Bishop
Apr 3, 2017 - 05:26pm PT
The great thing about Boot Flake falling off every April 1st is that it reappears on the 2nd.
I'd hate to be up there during the time window that it's gone....
Maybe there's some easy 5.3 face behind it ??
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 3, 2017 - 05:28pm PT
If Boot Flake was in Josh, it would be just another ho-hum one-pitch climb.

If Boot Flake fell out of bed in the morning and no one was there to hear it, would his First Alert be enough to save him?
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Apr 3, 2017 - 06:51pm PT
what a miniscule addition the weight of one climber is

What about six climbers?

Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Apr 3, 2017 - 08:43pm PT
Placing another one with a ladder below always seemed like a strange decision to me.


The bolt ladder to the Boot might have been tiny, poorly placed Zamacs, or worse, back in 1960. Loosing all your pins from behind the Mother of All Expandos and falling onto that ladder, back then, was probably a dangerous proposition.

The current ladder of big belay bolts is a more recent innovation.

originalpmac

Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
Apr 1, 2018 - 11:47am PT
In case there is any one new here...
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Apr 1, 2018 - 12:46pm PT
Every year it falls off around this time.... It's almost like a Mayan calendar, so accurate!
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Apr 1, 2018 - 01:32pm PT
I hear the Park Service is starting a permit program for people who want to watch Boot Flake fall next year.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 1, 2018 - 07:18pm PT
Trust me...the chewing gum holding it on is drying out.
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Apr 1, 2018 - 07:27pm PT
Last I heard is El Cap fell off but Boot Flake is still up there...
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Apr 1, 2018 - 07:34pm PT
I feel like a bit of a chump, but reading the title got me for a fraction of a second before I remembered how long this thread's existed.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 1, 2018 - 08:50pm PT
If PTPP was up there with his junk show I would certainly believe it to be true...
grover

climber
Castlegar BC
Apr 1, 2019 - 06:43am PT

Sad day, a piece of history gone forever......
F10

Trad climber
Bishop
Apr 1, 2019 - 07:25am PT
I was thinking about this post yesterday
Glad it showed up again
fragglerockjoe

Trad climber
space-man from outer space
Apr 1, 2019 - 07:55am PT
It must be really heavy to haul and reattach to the wall. I wonder who's done the rigging?
skywalker1

Trad climber
co
Apr 1, 2019 - 09:11am PT
Didn't Locker resole that boot last year?

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 2, 2019 - 05:36am PT
That’s why it bounced!
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