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rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 16, 2010 - 02:00pm PT
Funny, Joni was one of my favorite singers when I was a teen; but I never saw her live nor on film. nada. Now, 40 years later I find her on youtube - both young and old. I seem to know more about her now then I did back in the day. Here's a couple clips. She has some pretty sharp commentary on modern America on the Charlie Rose link - and right on to my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q4foLKDlcE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ss4pxx8GOM

Charlie Rose interviewette
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3g-Wv-p_ug&NR=1&feature=fvwp
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Feb 16, 2010 - 02:07pm PT
No regrets, coyote, we just come from such different sets of circumstance.

Check the Shadows and Light show from the SB Bowl. Jaco and Metheney?,
paul roehl

Boulder climber
california
Feb 16, 2010 - 02:19pm PT
Wow, California! is that good or what? That girl has real talent, she is much loved.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Feb 16, 2010 - 02:25pm PT
I love that woman!
sac

Trad climber
spuzzum
Feb 16, 2010 - 02:45pm PT
Oh Canada!!

Love Love Love Love Love Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QZioxCg20I&feature=related

Joni... indeed touches souls.


Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Feb 16, 2010 - 02:50pm PT
She performed her song "Both Sides Now" for the opening ceremony for the winter Olympics, but it's not clear if it was live or recorded. They didn't show her performing, and there was something about her having been sick.
Robb

Social climber
The Greeley Triangle
Feb 16, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
"...making vice chic was a tremendous moral error..."
Keen observation Joni.
Chief

climber
Feb 16, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
Joni's the quintessential artist and a goddess.
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
شقوق واس
Feb 16, 2010 - 02:56pm PT
Dig the Joni. Woot!
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Feb 16, 2010 - 03:18pm PT
One affectionate bump for Joni
TrundleBum

Trad climber
Las Vegas
Feb 16, 2010 - 03:31pm PT
"I wish I had a river, I could skate away on..."
~~~~~~~~~~~

God that California vid...
What raw talent. Unless you ever tried to sit on a stage with nothing but a little sound reinforcement. No special effects. No Bass and rhythm to hide behind. Just you!
The way she can 'hold it down' so tight, keep that energy pumping...
With just a dulcimer and her voice?
< chicken skin'n watery eyes.

What an interview...
What a women 'eh !


~~~~~~~~~~~
While living in Hawai'i and spending a lot of time with my friend 'Aunty Nona' I had a chance to enlighten her a little regarding mainstream/mainland folk music.
Aunty had this kids book that someone had given her and she really loved. It was a poem broken into many pages. There was really nice background art on each page.
I first found it one day sitting on a bottom shelf of a small rolling book case in her living room. I picked it up and started to read and immediately recognized the prose. Aunty saw it in my hands, mentioned her joy when reading it and I asked "Well then sit down and I will read it to you." She sat and listened with a growing smile. When I finished reading it (as a poem) I said to her "surely you know who wrote this don't you?" She did not recognize it...
So I picked up her ukulele and began again,
but this time I sang it ;)

Bows and flows of angel hair
and ice cream castles in the air
And feather canyons everywhere
I've looked at clouds that way...




blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Feb 16, 2010 - 03:33pm PT
Wow, I have to admit I like her schlocky folk rock as much as the next guy, but she comes out with some real doozies in the interview: (my typing may not be verbatim)

"America is as perverse right now as Germany was right before WWII and our leadership was as grotesque as it was in Germany at the time every bit. Americans are as ignorant as the Germans were of the atrocities that its government commits around the world but the rest of the world knows so there's a tremendous amount of hostility but the hostility is futile because you can't stop it. . . .
the boys are weakened and the girls are grotesquely aggressive [OK, maybe she's onto something after all]"

She should stick to collecting her fat royalty checks and living the American dream, and save the social commentary for people who have the slightest idea of what they're talking about.

Edit: All I did was post a brief transcription of the interview cited by the OP, with some VERY brief commentary (some of it positive, some of it not). Commenting on what the OP put in his thread is fair game.
If anyone disagrees, she can start her own thread, and I'l stay out of it.

Edit to Philo: hey, maybe you're right, I've met plenty of wimpy American men (maybe I'm one) and super-aggressive American women. That's what JM was getting at, for better or worse.
I'm guessing you didn't even listen to the interview before you wrote your post?
originalpmac

Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
Feb 16, 2010 - 03:42pm PT
whatever to the above boulderite dribble, that woman is a goddess, plain and simple. Coyote is one of the best songs I have ever heard


edit: this is an appreciation thread
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Feb 16, 2010 - 03:42pm PT
She knows more of what she speaks than 95% of the mouth breathers on American media.
Tobia

Social climber
GA
Feb 16, 2010 - 04:31pm PT
....and she speaks so many different ways!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbIuC9hTY9Y
Joni Mitchell ~ Circle Game
Great album with Tom Scott and L.A. Express

Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Feb 16, 2010 - 04:34pm PT
Hate to tell you, blahblah, but Joni Mitchell is Canadian. She lives about half of each year in Canada, and half in the US, but is still a Canadian citizen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joni_Mitchell
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 16, 2010 - 05:34pm PT

I could drink a case of her. . . .
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 16, 2010 - 07:08pm PT
We're in her home town right now. She grew up here in Saskatoon just like I did, at pretty much the same time. But I somehow missed out on whatever it was that gave her what she has.

There's a painting of her on the bus kiosk just outside my father's apartment block.
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Feb 16, 2010 - 07:45pm PT
Supposedly, she wrote "Michael From the Mountain" for Mike Covington.

A brilliant climber, superb musician and wild driver, from Colorado, he entertained the lads in the Valley on many occasions. From Glen Denny's Yosemite:




Tobia

Social climber
GA
Feb 16, 2010 - 08:20pm PT
Ghost: Don't feel bad... the good stuff of either of my parents missed me by miles.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Feb 16, 2010 - 09:47pm PT
Yep Guido that's what I also heard BITD. And what a fabulous song it is.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 16, 2010 - 09:55pm PT
I get the urge for going when the meadow grass is turning brown...

She is just amazing...no way she should have written songs with such depth/insight at her age but she did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3EofN3Flag
C4/1971

Trad climber
Depends on the day...
Feb 16, 2010 - 10:30pm PT
Joni,

my first love....

in my dreams.....
JOEY.F

Social climber
sebastopol
Feb 17, 2010 - 12:11am PT
Indeed, one would hear many a lass singing and playing A Case of You, or many others, wafting out of that little coffee house behind the Curry kitchen, practicing with open tuning, 12 strings and such. Sweet sounds.
Fletcher

Trad climber
The beckoning silence
Feb 17, 2010 - 12:41am PT
She's a fave... still creative and wonderful now as BITD.

Eric
apogee

climber
Feb 17, 2010 - 12:44am PT
Just watched 'California' and 'Coyote'.

These tiny, little words in a very small font cannot do justice to the warmth and adoration and love I have in my soul for the voice and spirit of Joni Mitchell.
nita

Social climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Feb 17, 2010 - 01:05am PT
I've only had the complete pleasure of seeing Joni once......pure bliss....I love her lyrics...her voice.

For free... ............What a Beauty, so talented
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmzN1p5q2sY&feature=related

and..

It's been posted before.....Both sides now..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcrEqIpi6sg&feature=related

I would of put up Blue, but could not find a Joni version.




aldude

climber
Monument Manor
Feb 17, 2010 - 03:45pm PT
Gifted singer & musician....Dog Eat Dog was my favorite*
hooblie

climber
from where the anecdotes roam
Feb 17, 2010 - 04:34pm PT
edith and the kingpin, the hissing of summer lawns.

i owe to her the empathy i feel for the mix of romantic vulnerablity and alluring prowess so often
on display across the sexual divide, perhaps even my entrainment in dreams that were not mine.

she must have been a force of nature to work with, gauging by the awesome talent she attracted.

where others may show up to lay down the vocals, her work is an expression of feminine authority and right of authorship
that rides in on unflinching grace such that it need not be defended. even when what she did was not for my ear,
some of her experimental reaches, i followed with respect.

i've been replaying "both sides now" from the opening ceremonies in vancouver.

she pulls each phrase like a petal of taffy...with surety.
her deeper register embued with patient gesture,
the fragrance of a mellowed cask hangs in time.
a lifetime echoes in it's hold

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9j_j-cUwKc&feature=related#movie_player

and the whimsicly effervesent big yellow taxi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRN6J16qVVM&feature=related

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 17, 2010 - 06:57pm PT
Didn't she write the anthem of a generation without ATTENDING Woodstock?

Saw her 5 years later with Tom Scott, great show.
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 11:53pm PT
she missed Woodstock due to scheduling conflict, but wrote this during the event and performed it a month later at Big Sur.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBqodL2OJ1A


I thought I should have named this thread differently. Who, amongst us men DIDN'T have a crush on Joni at a certain age? ha Good to know she has other fans.
Melissa

Gym climber
berkeley, ca
Feb 18, 2010 - 12:23am PT
Met a redneck on a Grecian isle.
He did the goat dance very well.
He gave me back my smile,
but he kept my camera to sell.


I love that line.

Here's an interview that she did on NPR a year or so ago when she put out a compilation. She has a great wrecked storyteller's voice now. Like Tom Waits...but odder since her voice used to be like a bell.

http://www.npr.org/templates/player/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=4118493&m=4118494

The comparison of her original "Clouds" with the gruff version is great.

Here's Tori covering a case of you. It's like seeing two of my favorite people fall in love with each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=FXRlA519bQE&v=7iOgGf-P_dc
mountain dog

Trad climber
over the hills and far away
Feb 18, 2010 - 12:49am PT
The only woman in Rolling Stones 100 greatest guitar players.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3km3Z04aYxM
mountain dog

Trad climber
over the hills and far away
Feb 18, 2010 - 12:54am PT
And, she sings about mountain climbers!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLNF32bKed0
JOEY.F

Social climber
sebastopol
Feb 18, 2010 - 12:58am PT
And she and Peter Gabriel did one together
My Secret Place

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StCve-J4ofk

Colorado, street bravado. inspired!

Two icons, wow.
BooDawg

Social climber
Paradise Island
Feb 18, 2010 - 07:07am PT
When still living near Stoney Pt., Russ, Dennis, and I wrote her a 'fan' letter, inviting her to come climbing with us at Stoney Point. I'm not sure we ever figured out where to send it or not. The letter might still survive in a box of letters somewhere...

Only a couple of weeks ago, I sang "Circle Game" around a campfire, having memorized it many years ago...

I love this verse,

Sixteen springs and sixteen summer gone now
Cartwheels turn to car wheels through the town
And they tell him, "Take your time it won't be long now
Til you drag your feet to slow the circles down..."

Remind anyone of someone you know???
Don Lauria

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Feb 18, 2010 - 01:30pm PT
I was impressed when Covington rolled into Yosemite Valley in his white Porsche roadster and his guitar. Covington was on the verge of signing a recording contract(Simon & Garfunkel were his producers)- that's how involved he was in the music business. He mentioned to me once that Joni Mitchell was a friend so it's possible that she was thinking of him with "Michael from Mountains".
guyman

Trad climber
Moorpark, CA.
Feb 19, 2010 - 12:44pm PT

I thought I should have named this thread differently. Who, amongst us men DIDN'T have a crush on Joni at a certain age? ha Good to know she has other fans.

Rocker..... we all did. some will not admit it. I really love her music, she gets deep down into what is important with people and human feelings. To bad she smokes ciggs and ruined her voice.


Not to OT this but somebody up thread pointed out how difficult it is to get on stage with only your voice and a instrument. Here is a video that might just surprise some of you. Warning some folks says she is a man.... I can't figure out why some would say that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3R3KqrJAI4

enjoy

hossjulia

Social climber
Eastside
Feb 19, 2010 - 12:53pm PT
She is an incredible musician, who has perfected her reverse strumming technique? I could never get a handle on that.
Love her, probably my favorite. Thanks for the thread and the links.
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 20, 2010 - 03:40am PT
one more bump for the queen of the high note

"like a cactus tree, busy being free...."

http://wordbandit.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/youtube-find-of-the-week-joni-mitchell/


I get the feeling she "knew" a lot of men. lol
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2010 - 01:20am PT
Joni bump to keep up with Bob


http://youtube.com/watch?v=xCov0TYXBp8&feature=related
Chief

climber
May 11, 2010 - 10:56am PT
Bump for Joni!

How about this line from the Hissing of Summer Lawns?

I pissed a tequila anaconda the full length of the parking lot

Lyric genius or flagrant nutbar.
troutboy

Trad climber
Newark, DE
May 11, 2010 - 12:37pm PT
Her guitar work is interesting, especially considering she must alter style from standard methods to compensate for the effects of polio.

True story:

My wife whad just purchased the "Blue" album right after it came out (in 1971 ?), She was sitting in the college student union at Edinboro (then college), PA reading the liner notes. Joni was still relatively unknown then in bumfu*k PA. A woman came up to her and said "I know her". My wife, thinking she meant she had "heard of her" said something like, "so, you've heard the album ?". The woman said, "No, I know her. I did not know she had an album." Apparently, she lived with Joni in some cave in Greece. She and my wife took the album home and listened, the woman describing several of the influences on the songs relating to her years in Greece. They have been friends since.

TS
Binks

climber
Uranus
May 11, 2010 - 12:43pm PT
I'm a big fan of "Court and Spark." Great album. Also really like "Hissing of Summer Lawns".
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jul 25, 2015 - 04:57pm PT
Bump for recovery.

Little did I know of her recent aneurysm until today.

So many revere this lady's pipes and her class act.

Many ST posters had crushes on her, as you've seen here;
and they're gonna aim their hoses on you, Chief!

Let's keep her around a bit longer, God. Paradise can wait.

[Click to View YouTube Video]



hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Jul 25, 2015 - 05:02pm PT
Blue
Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Nov 13, 2017 - 09:40pm PT
Holy sh#t. Where has this woman's work been all my life??

Can't wait to check out all them links y'all posted when I get off this drive. Kirk! I'm in TN again, where's your stump jumper?
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Nov 13, 2017 - 09:52pm PT
Not sure if this has been shared yet
http://jonimitchell.com/paintings/
+

http://www.google.co.in/search?q=joni+mitchell%27s+art&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjWjvzGr73XAhWLNo8KHZ8fBq8Q_AUICigB&biw=1362&bih=738

a woman with many talents:-)
AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Nov 14, 2017 - 07:08am PT
Joni grew up in both Saskatoon and North Battleford. My cousin went to school with her.
Check out the Shadows and Light DVD.
Pat Metheny
Jaco Pastorius
Mike Brecker
Don Alias
Lyle Mays
What a backup band!

Jaco had an affair with her and she wanted to have a kid with him for the musical genetics.
Jaco said something like "Why do you think the bass was so upfront in the mix?"
zBrown

Ice climber
Nov 14, 2017 - 08:33am PT
Joni and The Band

Prisoners of the white lines, eh

[Click to View YouTube Video]
couchmaster

climber
Nov 14, 2017 - 08:52am PT


I can still listen to the full record album Court and Spark start to finish. Good stuff, every damned song. Except records are no more of course. Perhaps soon Joni will also be no more. I had heard Joni was in severe medical distress while back, but she's pulled out of that tailspin apparently.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/513241/Mental-illness-forced-Joni-Mitchell-to-quit

2015-
http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/28/joni-mitchell-coma-conservatorship-health-update-hospital/

Rosanne Cash instagram post start of 2017: http://www.instagram.com/p/BTevch5j8Zz/
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