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Social climber
Aug 18, 2018 - 01:17pm PT
hey there say, ... happygrrrl... and each and everyone of you...

congratulations on the anniversaries...

and, on all that hard work, and trust, to get to this point...

yes, it is 'trust' too-- trust that the trails will NOT cave in on
you, as you take to them in a 'new and different' manner, than before...

for those that may have 'ended up' on the 'rabbit trail' that will
slip you back into the hole-- remember your success:

remember this:

when you ARE on the trail... the trail works, and YOU DO get 'on upwards'
to the new beauty, along the way...

a slip, is a slip, not a failure of the trail...
just mark down why, the rabbit-trail 'caught' you...
and, at what point in life you were at, personally or work-wise, and,
'and physical weakness that may have been going on' aAND--

keep that an in information to 'recognize' a rabbit trail can do catch
you and this can make you stronger yet... (not weaker, as it will trick
you to THINK-so)...

remember -- this 'stuff' wants to control you...

if you know how and why-- you are THEN 'in the drivers' seat,
and, the rest of the control is up to you, to--
keep you 'KEY' and 'take your trail' ...

not the 'stuffs' ... and, rabbit trails will have 'no pull' if
you 'remember' how 'one' tripped you up...

SAY, HANK... i was just thinking of you, when i saw the name, and was

say-- had you in mind, too, when i posted this...
you WILL do it...

keep the 'key of insight' ...

i believe in you...

and-- yes, this is FOR ALL OF YOU, AS WELL-- you are all special! ...

everyone, 'drink-wise' or 'drug wise' or, 'emotion wise'
or, WHATEVER our troubles may be...

rabbit trails... sly, side temptations, hurt the good-solid trail
that we really want and love... (they deceive us, as to 'something there
that we might be missing, lacking, or, might just just seem to 'be fun and add a bit of spice', or, it may have some 'cryptic answer to a part of the new trail that we have not solved yet ) --

the 'powerful allure' stuff that makes one fall into the pit:

and thus, come the danger, where one can lose it all--if not
able to climb back to trail--if no friend to help pull up back up...

no fun, in that, and no answer to life, either...

let's KEEP LIFE... and keep our trail clear of brush that
might hide or fancy up' those rabbit trail...

awwww, the beauty of a good solid clear trail!

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Aug 29, 2018 - 03:33am PT
my 12th came and went aug 24th or 25th? getting old and not remembering as well. I noticed on the 26th... Hope Happie is doing well I know hers is near mine.
Mike Honcho

Trad climber
Glenwood Springs, CO
Aug 29, 2018 - 08:11am PT
That's badass tradmanclimbs! I pray I'm there one day.


Social climber
great white north
Aug 29, 2018 - 08:41am PT
Stout work folks!
In your corner

Big Wall climber
Aug 29, 2018 - 12:27pm PT
As of today I can actually say I've been sober for yearS.

2 years for me. Good job everyone.

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Aug 29, 2018 - 02:59pm PT
hang in there Hank. bummed Isa and I did not hit CO on our trip this summer so we missed the chance to try and climb with the various culprits in that area...

Aug 29, 2018 - 05:06pm PT
Congrats Sal

Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
Aug 29, 2018 - 09:09pm PT
Got a text from my nephew this evening. He knows my history of alcoholism to a degree.

He's having his own problems now. Wife kicked him out today. Has 3 little girls; owns a home here in Little Rock. He wanted to talk. Told him to come over. We've never been close as I've spent the last 30 years in SoCal.

He came over an hour or so ago. We talked for a while. I related my story and let him know from my experience the progressive nature of which addiction takes it's toll. It was a good conversation, but he is still not at the point of acceptance and "readiness" to stop. Hopefully it will sink in.

The state of quantum flux
Sep 12, 2018 - 08:36am PT
I have some very bad news… Our son Manuel succumbed to his illnesses on Monday. We were all with him at the hospital when he died, the doctors tried to save him but he was too far along with his liver failure than anyone had thought.

It has been a shock to my wife and our immediate family, and we are all heartbroken and grieving, and we have a lot of things to do in the next several days. I could go into more detail about why and how he passed, but please understand if I do not respond to questions here for awhile.

I only mention it here because he died from cirrosis of the liver due to alcoholism, even though it has been over year since he took his last drink, and even after many weeks and months in and out of the hospital under the care of many doctors and specialists. I just hope that by posting here, if even one person is motivated to face their alcoholism before it’s too late, that I might have done some good.

We were hoping that by this winter he would be eligible and healthy enough to go on the transplant list and he would have a new chance at life. He was only 41 years old and leaves behind a wife and two adult children. We thought we would have a lot more time with him, a few more years at least.

T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Sep 12, 2018 - 08:41am PT
Very sorry to hear this Tim,
my sincere condolences to his family and friends.
RIP Manuel

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Sep 12, 2018 - 09:03am PT
Damn Tim.... That sucks. Goes to show the damage is not easily repaired.

Sorry for your loss...

Social climber
great white north
Sep 12, 2018 - 10:10am PT
Condolences to you and family Bushman
Woody the Beaver

Trad climber
Soldier, Idaho
Sep 12, 2018 - 10:14am PT
Bushman, what a loss for you and your family. I'm deeply sorry to hear that.

some eastside hovel
Sep 12, 2018 - 10:14am PT
Sorry to hear this Tim. Positive vibes and prayers to you and your family.

Trad climber
Sep 12, 2018 - 10:56am PT
Oh, Bushman. My heart breaks for you and your family. To lose a son, and at such a young age. And to such a horrible reaper. I am so sorry.


Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 14, 2018 - 04:30pm PT
Condolences and positive vibes Bushman. Thanks for thinking of us on what’s got to be a horrible time!
Jebus H Bomz

Sacramento, CA
Sep 14, 2018 - 07:09pm PT
I’m very sorry for you and all your family Bushman and I hope you can remember the good times and love when it is time. Such a tragedy this disease causes.

Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
Sep 14, 2018 - 09:58pm PT
Aw Geez Tim (Bushman) that is hard to hear and I'm so sorry.

I can't even imagine; my son is so precious to me and real tragedy has eluded me in my life so far. I honestly don't know if I'd ever be strong enough to handle a loss so close.

Very sorry, that's all,
John M

Sep 14, 2018 - 10:05pm PT
Thats heart wrenching Bushman.. I love this thread because there is so much positivity in the number of people here who are overcoming their addictions, and yet there is a harsh reality to alcoholism which people have to face daily. I am so sorry for your loss and I pray for strength for you and your family.

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