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Trad climber
Aug 25, 2013 - 05:06pm PT
OH MY GOD! I totally forgot....My sober anniversary is TOMORROW, August 26th.

Ho man....thanks for reminding me. Wouldn't it have been terrible to completely have forgotten? I can't believe I WOULD have, had it not been for your post. is the 17th anniversary of my last hangover, and tomorrow is 17 years from first day sober.

Thank you for the condolences for Teddy. I put a dog biscuit on the stone at his grave's head, and the next morning it was gone. Maybe there's something about the Chinese tradition of leaving food offerings.... Or maybe a squirrel got it. Either way, it was nice to go visit and have it gone.


The Granite State.
Aug 25, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
Sobriety is an elusive goal for me.

It works for a while, then I get a weekend and I'm all 'Well, I'm going to the liquor store.'

Addiction is a cruel thing. Maybe some of you will say that I should just man up and send it. Well, it's not as easy as that. I hate it, yet I support it.

One of these days I'm going to make it work. I promise.

Props to those of you who have defeated the beast, my battle continues.
The Chief

From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 25, 2013 - 06:26pm PT
One of these days I'm going to make it work. I promise.

Ahhhh, You don't "MAKE IT" work.

You must surrender and let it ALL work you.

Understanding then accepting that most important concept is the key to this gig.

My first year I spent over 75% of my day at meetings or at the Alano Club in the Santa Barbara area. That is where I got this deal.

I will never forget hearing a "Speaker" who had well over 35 years sober say the following (paraphrased)...

"I hear everyone say that they need to work the program. Well, fact is, we can't work shet. That is why we are where we all are right now in this room tonight. What we must do is surrender to the Program and then allow it to work us. Daily. We then need to commit ourselves to allowing that to happen daily, for the rest of our lives if we want to remain sober. We do that every morning when we awake. We get outta of our beds and drop straight to our knees and ask our Higher Power to give us the strength and wisdom to allow the Steps to work in our life throughout the day guiding and directing us to do the next right indicated thing. Then do so.

That's how this gig works."

Since hearing and then applying that to my day, first thing every morning, I have been blessed to be sober for over 13 years. All just a bunch of "One Day at Times" added up.

Props to those of you who have defeated the beast.

Oh, you NEVER defeat it. You just get a daily reprieve if you do what your "directed" to do by the Program and your Sponsor, today. Cus that is all you and I have.

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Aug 25, 2013 - 07:37pm PT
I could not have done it without meetings and a great loving sponsor.It's not about toughing it out.Belief in a higher power(whatever that means to you), has made all the difference to me.

my meeting is tomorrow; can't wait! :-)
The Chief

From the Land of the Mongols
Aug 25, 2013 - 08:06pm PT

*Ya gotta want this sobriety gig more than anything in the world. Ya gotta do that daily.

*Ya gotta do it for you and ONLY you. No one else. Absolutely no one or anything.

*Ya gotta put it before everyone and everything. It MUST be premier in your life or it will not work.

*No half assing this deal. Nope. It's either 110% 100% of the time for the rest of your life, or nothing.

This is a very SELFISH yet SIMPLE gig. Nothing atal complicated about it. Plain and simple.

* Them's not my words btw. Nope. Them words are ALL in the Book.
Stevee B

Trad climber
Oakland, CA
Aug 25, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
My favorite sponsor said two things to me every time we talked on the phone:
"Steve, I just need to remember where I came from and that I can't do it alone. That's all I need to do."

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Aug 25, 2013 - 08:26pm PT
Surrender, ARGH!


Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 25, 2013 - 09:43pm PT
I'm not big on surrender, or the higher being, either. I just don't drink because my world runs better that way.

Oh and happy 'birthday' Terrie, and that other person too!!

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Aug 25, 2013 - 10:30pm PT
Way to go Terrie! Only three meetings today, I'm slackin'.

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Aug 25, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
Reason i remember happies BD is about now is because today is my 7th. My best drinking bud from Silverton has been in VT all summer and we have done a bunch of great climbs (and a few stinkers) Alex still hits it pretty good. I do the driveing and he does the drinking. i hit my seltzer pretty hard and and the ice cream but managed to stay clean though there were a few rough spots. Alex leaves for CO tomorrow and we had a pretty big day @ Poko yesterday. Lot of multi pitch climbing and a lot of driveing. Looong day but I pulled through. should be easy sailing for a spell;)
Jebus H Bomz

Peavine Basecamp
Aug 25, 2013 - 11:08pm PT
I'm on the seltzer too. I find I need a beverage that gives me "pause", even if that's only some stiff carbonation. I have a drinking, as in "chugging" problem too, used to throwing down the drinks. Big time coffee drinker all the way through everything too. Maybe a wee bit of a moderation problem. Ya think?

I hope everybody is hanging in there using whatever powers work for them. For those really questioning the use thing, that's a huge clue. Pretty hard to argue against it all though, it is an insidious beast that lives inside you. I guess you honestly ask yourself if things are getting better or do you feel like you are getting away with something every day you get high or drunk.

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Aug 26, 2013 - 12:27am PT
Read the passage, "How it works," not as a suggestion, but as literal truth, because it is.

Trad climber
Aug 26, 2013 - 10:54am PT
Let's NOT forget that the AA Big Book also says that it is "Progress, not perfection."

The only thing I think I've been able to do 100% right has been to not pick up that first drink. Oftentimes I think I have more in common with the newbie counting days than the long-time sober.

I still struggle - daily - with the most basic facets of life, like interacting with others, being able to foresee the consequences of my actions and inactions, the Steps. Oh yes, I struggle with the Steps. I do tend to believe there is quite a bit of grace in that thing which is sobriety. It allows us to blunder and stumble and still "be sober."

Today is my anniversary and today I am living with a realization of how a previous negligence of activity has compounded in a way that I look back at and say "HOW could you not have realized...???" It does not feel good. I had hoped I had "stopped digging" the hole I was in, but noooo....

And yet, here I am, sober.


Ice climber
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:00am PT
Good for you Terrie.

Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:03am PT
Practice these principles in all our affairs.

Just sayin.

Trad climber
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:36am PT
^ Followed in the Big Book - directly - with:
Many of us exclaimed, "What an order! I can't go through with it." Do not be discouraged. No one among us has been able to maintain anything like perfect adherence to these principles. We are not saints. The point is, that we are willing to grow along spiritual lines. The principles we have set down are guides to progress. We claim spiritual progress rather than spiritual perfection.

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Aug 26, 2013 - 05:42pm PT
going to 2 meetings today because a brother from my noon meeting is doing his first step at the meeting tonight.

Higher power can be the collective consciousness of everyone in the meeting, doesn't have to be "god".

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Aug 27, 2013 - 05:01pm PT
bump for sobriety!

Got to hear a first step last night and it brought a tear or two to my eye.

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 27, 2013 - 05:45pm PT
Good point on the 'god thing' S. Leeper! I always bring it up to reassure non believers like my self that there are non-theist, esp non-christian ways to sobriety. I interpret what you and others say, about not pining down the"higherforce" as something along the lines of, don't deny yourself the help and benefits of AA because of a "god" sticking point!

And, I fully agree! I'd like to think we're getting at the same thing fom differing points of view; An important life lesson in general!

That said, this can be a hard time for me as well. Yesterday is not only a coue Tacos' birthday, it's also Lucille day, the anniversary of the Fa of a climb in 1988 that changed a lot of the way I view things, and shaped my climbing life afterwards. All three of these things give me confidence and strength. Coming off that, I'm always caught by surprise to be a little down on the 27th. And every year I have to go through a thought process and remember that it was this day in 1979 that my father died of pancreatic cancer at age 56. He's also responsible in many ways for where I am as a climber, we sort of learned to climb together.
It's a funny year this year, as its the first year that I've reached an age beyond what he lived to. On top of that is the ambient sadness of losing Blitzo so recently in such a similar way.
I'm not in danger of drinking today. I'm in Vedauwoo, climbed and ran this morning; now I'm armed with a big gulp and back up seltzer, to go scope out tomorrow's project and then grill some salmon.

The thing that sobriety does for me in all this. Is that I can take theses extremes of high and low, and experience them, sort them out, and order them in my life. Which works a lot better for me than being overwhelmed by each and trying to dull it down, in an effort to control the feelings, with alcohol.

There are times when you need to be happy, and times its appropriate to feel sad. That's the joy, of life!

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Aug 27, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
Thank you Jay for sharing your feelings here.

Alot of us addicts, have stuffed or sedated our feelings with drugs, booze, sex, or what have you, for so long, expressing how we feel can be a new experience.

Love you all!
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