Jebus H Bomz
climber
Peavine Basecamp
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Aug 28, 2013 - 11:12pm PT
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Yeah, I guess what I'm saying is I don't see AA way as the only gig. Like I said, my parents are about 30-years sober without it. I do appreciate the insight, the way of talking openly about it I see here though. But, yeah, no sponsors or anything.
I guess after all this time enslaved to it, I don't want to make it my flipping hobby if at all possible. If that's what it takes for people not to drink though, it is definitely worth it. I just haven't needed that yet.
I dunno, many paths to Rome, or something. I'll be doing my own Pepsi challenge 5, 10, 20, 30, 40 years down the line. I personally don't care how people get there if they decide that they need to head that way. To me it's a non-denominational issue, I really don't have the energy to worry about who is more sober than the other. I ultimately care most about one guy's sobriety.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Aug 28, 2013 - 11:29pm PT
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I'm like the Jeebs. This thread is my only "meeting". Don't cotton to organizations in general.
But whatever works for you, do it. The AA seems to work wonders for some, just not my thing.
Found out earlier this week that my cousin, a close childhood friend, died of a drug induced heart attack last year at age 40 (yeah, WTF? They're just telling me this now?). 20 years of meth will do that to you.
I always hoped he'd pull it together someday, he had 3 little boys...well I guess one is out of high school by now, so not so little anymore. In and out of jail, on and off the ice, dealing, stealing, the whole nine. What a waste.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Aug 29, 2013 - 12:02am PT
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Perhaps someday in the distant future the day will arrive when I can taper off, but for now I need a steady diet of meetings and the program. Besides, in Flag AA is a social scene where I already know half the people. The party scene here has produced quite a few casualties.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Aug 29, 2013 - 12:16am PT
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That seems like a pretty good place to be, Bob...not Flag (I hate those #$%^& trains! never get good sleep in Flag), but knowing what you need and doing it. Dedication and self-knowledge, good tools indeed.
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Jebus H Bomz
climber
Peavine Basecamp
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Aug 29, 2013 - 01:14am PT
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Yeah, for sure on the good of AA thing. Maybe I get to benefit from the environment it creates indirectly too. We're all headed in the same direction. Although, my wife now tells me I have a drinking problem still. I drink too many semi-expensive healthy beverages now. Ha! I guess I'll take that over the other any day of the week.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 29, 2013 - 01:19am PT
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if you really screw up, you will end up in the streets with no money to buy drinks unless you beg along side the freeway,
best to fix the problem before you hit that kind of bottom,
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Jebus H Bomz
climber
Peavine Basecamp
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Aug 29, 2013 - 01:22am PT
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Durp.
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Jebus H Bomz
climber
Peavine Basecamp
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Aug 29, 2013 - 01:44am PT
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It ain't pretty, I'll second that.
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drewsky
climber
Seattle
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Aug 29, 2013 - 04:34pm PT
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Reading through this thread has been extremely informative. As someone with relatively mild but still undeniably present alcohol issues, it offers a lot of good information about the spectrum of problems that can result and about how the 'relatively mild' can rapidly change. Food for thought for anyone who drinks moderately but still acknowledges having the occasional binging problem.
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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Aug 29, 2013 - 05:28pm PT
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not an alcoholic here, other issues.
Good to hear your friend is on the right track, Matt.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Aug 29, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
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Bets of luck to your drummer friend, Matt.
My sister emailed me last week that her oldest son (24 or so) voluntarily went to rehab. I saw him in May and it was so sad to see another generation in my family being afflicted with alcoholism. Hes got it good. I sent her a note with a message to relay. Let's hope E can do it - it must kill a mother to see their child succumbing.....
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Aug 31, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
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Another excellent adventure. The blessings keep Rollin in!
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SCseagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Aug 31, 2013 - 05:40pm PT
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As some others have said, while not an alcoholic, I get ALOT of info from this thread about fighting demons.
Thanks...
Susan
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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I agree that the things that help alcoholics maintain sobriety can be translated to many an issue and help very well.
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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I'd prefer to the specifics of my add. private on the taco; but like Happie said, the AA precepts have helped with my addiction as well.
Just pointing out there are many faces of addiction.
Climb on brothers and sisters!
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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good point Chief. Regardless of my addiction, I very much appreciate your support and everyone else on this thread.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Woke up without a hangover this morning. Jesus wept! So f*#kin good. Didn't even have to puke to get the first drink down. YES!!
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Yeti
Trad climber
Ketchum, Idaho
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This from an unpublished essay I wrote more than 10 years ago. Keep on keepin' on.......
For the next several years I battled my demons and lived in several places in California, Nevada and Idaho and watched more of my life unravel and more of the people I love most turn away, fall away, go away and, in some cases, stay away...... And, then, somehow (that ‘somehow’ being the basis of hope in the world), I was able to turn it around, to change direction (from down to up and begin dealing with life on its own terms). At approximately 11:40 p.m. January 31, 1987, I was sitting in the kitchen of a house where I was living in Albany, California. I was quite drunk. I did something I had been planning and promising myself for two months. I reached into the refrigerator and opened a bottle of Rainier Ale, affectionately known as “green death.” I drank it with relish and appreciation. When I was finished, just before midnight, I put the bottle in the garbage, brushed my teeth, turned out the lights and went to bed. February 1, 1987 was going to be an entirely new day for me.
It was the last drink, the last ‘recreational’ drug. It is tempting to add “I ever had,” but even fifteen years later is not ‘ever’ or ‘forever.’ If it hadn’t been the last drink I probably wouldn’t be here. I certainly wouldn’t be writing this..... It was the last drink. That much I can say. I consider myself lucky beyond measure.
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Jebus H Bomz
climber
Peavine Basecamp
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What happened to the title? You're not drinking again, Hank?
edit: Oh, my bad, seems to be a bug throughout Supertopo changing the titles?
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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had a great, serene weekend. tomorrow makes a week for me.
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